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12th Oct '17 11:22:15 AM luiz4200
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[[WMG: Facilier is literally [[CannotTellALie unable to outright tell lies]].]]
When he threatens Lawrence against breaking the talisman, he never says what he'd do to Lawrence because anything he'd threaten to do would be [[spoiler:lying about the fact the [=FOTOS=] wouldn't let him live long enough to do anything]].
12th Oct '17 7:55:53 AM luiz4200
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[[WMG: Facilier used to be the class prankster at school.]]
He entered into voodoo to take his pranks to the next level.
11th Oct '17 4:57:11 PM luiz4200
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* Based on an above guess that the realtors expected Tiana to take a loan from them, her employers expected that, by making her take the loan to get her own restaurant, she'd eventually default and then return to them.
11th Oct '17 4:52:19 PM luiz4200
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[[WMG: Tiana's employers were the other bidder.]]
After one of them witnessed Tiana finally having enough money to buy the abandoned sugar mill she intends to turn into a restaurant of their own, he told the other employer and they decided to pool their funds to outbid her so she'd never leave them. At the very least, they'd force Tiana to spend more than initially expected. At most, they could either keep her working at their original places or become joint owners of a new restaurant and make Tiana their employee or a minor partner there.

[[WMG: Big Daddy owns the abandoned sugar mill.]]
It's been so long ever since he left it at the hands of realtors he forgot it until the Fenner Brothers informed him that someone bought it.
9th Oct '17 10:28:27 AM mimitchi33
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Although it's not stated in the movie, Charlotte [[spoiler: saw Ray escape with Naveen's frog form]] and saw the necklace, and Dr. Facilier told her the truth about what happened. Charlotte probably told Facilier that [[spoiler: if he saw Ray again, he should squish him because he ruined her wedding]]. This could also be why [[spoiler: she distracted Tiana and Naveen in their frog forms to kiss her]].

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Although it's not stated in the movie, Charlotte [[spoiler: probably saw Ray escape with Naveen's frog form]] and saw form when the necklace, and fake Naveen fell off the float]]. After Dr. Facilier told her that [[spoiler: the truth about what happened. Naveen she tried to marry was fake and it was a result of the necklace's magic]]. Charlotte probably told responded to this by telling Facilier that [[spoiler: if he saw Ray again, he should squish him because he ruined her wedding]]. wedding and stole the pendant]]. This could also be why [[spoiler: she Charlotte distracted Tiana and Naveen in their frog forms to kiss her]].her, as she didn't want them to find out that Dr. Facillier stepped on Ray and stole the pendant.]].
9th Oct '17 10:25:23 AM mimitchi33
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[[WMG: Charlotte asked Dr. Facilier [[spoiler: to kill Ray]].]]

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[[WMG: Charlotte asked Dr. Facilier [[spoiler: to kill Ray]].]]Ray.]]]]
9th Oct '17 10:25:03 AM mimitchi33
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[[WMG: Charlotte asked Dr. Facilier [[spoiler: to kill Ray]].]]
Although it's not stated in the movie, Charlotte [[spoiler: saw Ray escape with Naveen's frog form]] and saw the necklace, and Dr. Facilier told her the truth about what happened. Charlotte probably told Facilier that [[spoiler: if he saw Ray again, he should squish him because he ruined her wedding]]. This could also be why [[spoiler: she distracted Tiana and Naveen in their frog forms to kiss her]].
30th Sep '17 12:52:12 PM SeptimusHeap
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Guests are clearly seen drinking alcohol at the end of the movie, and before anyone tries the "non-alcoholic/sparkling grape juice" defense, look at Big Daddy; he's intoxicated. Since violating Prohibition was rampant throughout America, and often not enforced, it's not a stretch that Tiana and Naveen would serve illegal giggle-water to their guests. Add to that Naveen's fun-loving, mischievous personality, and Tiana's business savvy personality, and you've got a speakeasy of [[TheGreatGatsby Gatsby proportions]] in the making.

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Guests are clearly seen drinking alcohol at the end of the movie, and before anyone tries the "non-alcoholic/sparkling grape juice" defense, look at Big Daddy; he's intoxicated. Since violating Prohibition was rampant throughout America, and often not enforced, it's not a stretch that Tiana and Naveen would serve illegal giggle-water to their guests. Add to that Naveen's fun-loving, mischievous personality, and Tiana's business savvy personality, and you've got a speakeasy of [[TheGreatGatsby [[Literature/TheGreatGatsby Gatsby proportions]] in the making.
16th Aug '17 6:54:57 AM ShadowLordHeishin
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[[WMG: The Friends on the Other Side are GoodAllAlong and an example of DarkIsNotEvil.]]
The original loa were not (at least inherently) malevolent beings, not even the shadier ones like Baron Samedi and Kalfu. They were sympathetic to the poor and desperate and willing to make deals with them, and it is implied that Facilier fell under such a category in his past. While Facilier was screwing around with the rich and those who were trying to "cut corners" in life and do things the easy way, including Naveen, their goals were aligned. However, once Facilier began to involve Tiana in his schemes, someone who was (a) poor and (b) dedicated to hard work, the Friends lost their sympathy with Facilier and began helping Tiana (and later Naveen, once he matures) instead. Alternatively, their entire goal from the beginning was to help Tiana and Naveen achieve their dreams, but only after they go through sufficient CharacterDevelopment to prove themselves worthy of it. They were never interested in devouring the souls of New Orleans, merely pretended to be as part of their BatmanGambit - they could have easily attacked/claimed frog Tiana in the cemetery when she broke Facilier's talisman, but expressed no interest in doing so. Their endgame leads to victory and a happy ending for everyone except Lawrence and Facilier, the only two evil characters in the entire story.

Bonus points if they're the SAME beings who provide Mama Odie with her power, only she is able to use them freely and without any fear of suffering the same fate as Facilier because she has the Friends' approval through her wise use of her powers and her understanding/spreading the message of what really matters.
23rd Jul '17 3:08:07 PM nombretomado
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** Nobody said "magical star creation" had to follow the logic of causality. Basically, effect (star) preceding cause (events of the film) via magical time travel/reality rewrite. Since only the protagonists of the film notice the star, and not the many astronomers and astrologers who would almost certainly notice a star just appearing from nowhere. Since the stargazers of the world never notice the new star's sudden appearance (which they would and people would definately mention it later, as it is pretty damn unusual), we should assume reality has been rewritten to have that star always being there.
** Doesn't the Disney Peter Pan sequel take place during WW2? Wendy is only 10-15 years older in it, making Peter Pan canonically occur in the 1920s.

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** Nobody said "magical star creation" had to follow the logic of causality. Basically, effect (star) preceding cause (events of the film) via magical time travel/reality rewrite. Since only the protagonists of the film notice the star, and not the many astronomers and astrologers who would almost certainly notice a star just appearing from nowhere. Since the stargazers of the world never notice the new star's sudden appearance (which they would and people would definately definitely mention it later, as it is pretty damn unusual), we should assume reality has been rewritten to have that star always being there.
** Doesn't the Disney Peter Pan sequel take place during WW2? [=WW2=]? Wendy is only 10-15 years older in it, making Peter Pan canonically occur in the 1920s.
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