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1st Feb '16 6:16:50 AM EarlOfSandvich
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It is inescapable by ordinary means, looping infinitely in all directions, and offers those within what they (think they) most desire. Of course, if they're foolish enough to accept its offer, explicitly or subconsciously (by encountering the wolf), the forest stops wasting effort pretending to be anything other than a twisted EldritchAbomination / EldritchLocation. It will continue doing this until it attempts to take the mind of someone with enough willpower to refuse its offer and destroy it. [[NoMoreHeroes Maybe an Irish assassin or something.]]
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It is inescapable by ordinary means, looping infinitely in all directions, and offers those within what they (think they) most desire. Of course, if they're foolish enough to accept its offer, explicitly or subconsciously (by encountering the wolf), the forest stops wasting effort pretending to be anything other than a twisted EldritchAbomination / EldritchLocation. It will continue doing this until it attempts to take the mind of someone with enough willpower to refuse its offer and destroy it. [[NoMoreHeroes [[VideoGame/NoMoreHeroes Maybe an Irish assassin or something.]]
30th Apr '14 11:18:40 AM InsomniacWeasel
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** This theory would actually explain why in all their live journals, the girls mention that there was a sudden unexplained social gathering full of guests, family friends, and people they have never even met before. They were bringing gifts and seemed very interested in the girls well being, and no one explained just what was going on.
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\n** It might be worth pointing out that cystic fibrosis, a terminal disease that often afflicts children around Rose' age, essentially results in the lungs being filled with liquid, "drowning" the patient. *** This theory would actually explain why in all their live journals, the girls mention that there was a sudden unexplained social gathering full of guests, family friends, and people they have never even met before. They were bringing gifts and seemed very interested in the girls well being, and no one explained just what was going on.

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** This [[WMG: Scarlet's Wolf represented carelessness]] I have to admit this theory would actually explain why in all their live journals, isn't mine - I just saw it on the girls mention internet and thought it so brilliant I just had to share it here. Judging by her description on the website, her monologues and the way she interacts with her sisters on livejournal, it is very obvious that there was a sudden unexplained social gathering full Scarlet's life is defined by duty. Being the oldest of guests, family friends, and people they many sisters who may not have always had a mother to take care of them, Scarlet always had to be the responsible one, and while she never even met before. They were bringing gifts faltered in her duties, it is clear that at least on some level she isn't fully satisfied with her role. Hers is a life of one menial chore after another, watching her sisters playing and seemed very interested in having fun while she stays behind to do the girls laundry and clean the house - but what she really wanted was to create art. To make music. In the game, too, Scarlet has an obligation: she was told to head over to grandma's to bring her food (and perhaps, by extension, help her around some). Now, we know that the Wolves all represent temptations, but in Scarlet's case, that temptation might not have been a man or an exciting experience of some sort: it was the temptation of letting go. Of sitting down, just for a little, little while, for a quiet few hours of well being, deserved time for herself, doing the things ''she'' likes. So she plays music on the piano and has a great time for the first time in so long, not realizing that time has passed... and by the time she makes it to grandma's, the house looks like somebody's died in it. It's been picked clean and the furniture are covered like the place is about to be sold. ''Scarlet ignored her duties, preferring, instead, to selfishly enjoy herself - and it cost her dearly''. Grandma ''needed'' Scarlet to take care of her. Maybe she needed a medicine she couldn't reach for herself. Maybe she had a stroke or a heart attack and no one explained just what was going on. around to provide assistance. Each of the girls learns a lesson about growing up from her Wolf: Scarlet's lesson is that being grown up means that you have to accept your duties, and that the consequences of ignoring them can be grim indeed.
28th Mar '14 10:02:17 AM ChaoticNovelist
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** I always got the impression that the girl in white was afraid of the grandmother. She'll lead you along the correct path, but even if you walk the whole path with her, she won't (or can't) go into the house. The only time she does is when you play as her in the epilogue, and there is no wolf in the woods, so it's safe to assume that the grandmother is her "wolf". So, um, I'm not sure what this brings to your interpretation, but I just thought I'd share. [[WMG: There really ''isn't'' a "true meaning" to any of the stories, and ''that'' is actually the purpose of the game.]]
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** I always got the impression that the girl [[WMG: The Girl in white was afraid White is afarid of the grandmother. Grandmother]] She'll lead you along the correct path, but even if you walk the whole path with her, she won't (or can't) go into the house. The only time she does is when you play as her in the epilogue, and there is no wolf in the woods, so it's safe to assume that the grandmother is her "wolf". So, um, I'm not sure what this brings to your interpretation, but I just thought I'd share.\n\n [[WMG: There really ''isn't'' a "true meaning" to any of the stories, and ''that'' is actually the purpose of the game.]]

(... I mean [[{{Brainwashed}} brainwashing]]. Or [[{{Vocaloid}} Alice Human Sacrifice]].)
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(... I mean [[{{Brainwashed}} brainwashing]]. Or [[{{Vocaloid}} Alice Human Sacrifice]].)

So I've seen a lot of varying interpretations of what each chapter means, but not a whole lot of speculation on Robin's chapter. I initially didn't spend a whole lot of time thinking about Robin as on the surface it seems like a fairly straightforward interpretation of the little red riding hood plot, and that Robin was in fact killed by a wolf/werewolf. The other possibility that occurred to me was that she fell into an open grave and died while playing around the graveyard. Notice that she will play in the dirt in the open grave before she encounters the wolf, and says something about how she loves playing in dirt. In that scene she will crawl out of the grave, but suppose she fell into a very deep grave and couldn't get out again? Kind of a grim interpretation, I know.
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So I've seen a lot of varying interpretations of what each chapter means, but not a whole lot of speculation on Robin's chapter. I initially didn't spend a whole lot of time thinking about Robin as on the surface it seems like a fairly straightforward interpretation of the little red riding hood plot, and that Robin was in fact killed by a wolf/werewolf. The other possibility that occurred to me was that she fell into an open grave and died while playing around the graveyard. Notice that she will play in the dirt in the open grave before she encounters the wolf, and says something about how she loves playing in dirt. In that scene she will crawl out of the grave, but suppose she fell into a very deep grave and couldn't get out again? Kind of a grim interpretation, I know. again?

** It would explain why she bares a resemblance to EmilyDickinson ** I really like this interpretation. However, the white sheets in the grandmother's house, to me, seemed to imply a world where there was no art. Maybe all of Scarlet's responsibilities meant she had no time for music or art anymore, and she felt stifled because of it. Also, what do you make of her wolf? Some of her thoughts indicated that she longed for some kind of personal connection. She wanted to find someone who would understand her because she felt lonely, and that's what I think her wolf is meant to represent. *** I have two ideas about her Wolf: One, her Wolf is meant to be a mentor or teacher, someone she could look up to and who could guide her along her chosen path. Two, her Wolf is meant to be someone who shared her love of music and art, someone she could fall for and who would fall for her. ** I so agree with this interpretation. And as I always thought that grandmother's house could represent the soul or the inside of each sister, it would add up with Scarlet's house being empty, and the thousands of books and the instruments representing her wish to compensate for her emotional emptiness. ** I interpretated that Scarlet had committed suicide somehow. "Art is where the nobility of humanity is expressed. I could not live on a world without it." In her Grandmother's house when the instruments and herself rise up there's the distinct sound of something being sharpened. Perhaps symbolic of turning herself into an artistic instrument. Maybe she had herself killed on stage or as a part of an art piece since she couldn't make any art herself.
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** It would explain why she bares a resemblance to EmilyDickinson ** I really like this interpretation. However, the The white sheets in the grandmother's house, to me, seemed to house imply a world where there was no art. Maybe all of Scarlet's responsibilities meant she had no time for music or art anymore, and she felt stifled because of it. Also, what do you make of her wolf? Some of her thoughts indicated that she longed for some kind of personal connection. She wanted to find someone who would understand her because she felt lonely, and that's what I think her wolf is meant to represent. *** I have two ideas about her Wolf: One, her represent. **Her Wolf is meant to be a mentor or teacher, someone she could look up to and who could guide her along her chosen path. Two, her path. ** Her Wolf is meant to be someone who shared her love of music and art, someone she could fall for and who would fall for her. ** I so agree with this interpretation. And as I always thought that grandmother's Grandmother's house could represent the soul or the inside of each sister, it would add up with Scarlet's house being empty, and the thousands of books and the instruments representing her wish to compensate for her emotional emptiness. ** I interpretated that Scarlet had committed suicide somehow. "Art is where the nobility of humanity is expressed. I could not live on a world without it." In her Grandmother's house when the instruments and herself rise up there's the distinct sound of something being sharpened. Perhaps symbolic of turning herself into an artistic instrument. Maybe she had herself killed on stage or as a part of an art piece since she couldn't make any art herself.

And the wolves are all Smiths.
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And the The wolves are all Smiths.

I know what you're going to say. She helps the girls back to the path! She's kind and helpful... isn't that how the original story Wolf seemed to Red? If you don't stop moving to interact, she'll lead you on a wild goose chase through the forest. I've actually had her lead me -to- a wolf once or twice. Even if she doesn't, she is always there when the girls approach their Wolves. Once they're all out of the way, she's off to Grandma's house. At the end of the game, there's the GIW... covered in blood... as the girls walk in, one by one.
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I know what you're going to say. She helps the girls back to the path! She's kind and helpful... isn't that how the original story Wolf seemed to Red? If you don't stop moving to interact, she'll lead you on a wild goose chase through the forest. I've actually had her lead me -to- a wolf once or twice. Even if she doesn't, she She is always there when the girls approach their Wolves. Once they're all out of the way, she's off to Grandma's house. At the end of the game, there's the GIW... covered in blood... as the girls walk in, one by one.

However, she can only help them by either leading them back to the path, or helping them find what they are really looking for inside the forest, namely the wolf. After either taking them back to the path, or showing them where the wolf is, she quietly steps back and lets the girl decide for themselves what they'll do next, as she has no power to actually stop them. It is up to them to choose their path.
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However, she can only help them by either leading them back to the path, or helping them find what they are really looking for inside the forest, namely the wolf. After either taking them back to the path, or showing them where the wolf is, she quietly steps back and lets the girl decide for themselves what they'll do next, as she has no power to actually stop them. It is up to them to choose their path.
7th Jan '14 3:13:12 AM LeRusecue
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WMG: Ginger's wolf isn't just representative of her entering puberty, it's of her realizing she is gay.]]
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WMG: [[WMG: Ginger's wolf isn't just representative of her entering puberty, it's of her realizing she is gay.]]
24th Nov '13 1:58:08 PM TamiTam
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WMG: Ginger's wolf isn't just representative of her entering puberty, it's of her realizing she is gay.]] As noted above Ginger's wolf and grandmother's house seem to represent her coming to terms with growing up, but could also represent her realization about her sexuality. Not only is she very tomboyish, but her playful interactions with the wolf have elements of playful flirtation. She might have started developing feelings for a female friend about her age. At 13, she's at the age many people start realizing they have feelings for others. She feels quite scared about her new desires, as many young teenagers do, but more so as not is she scared of growing up.
24th Nov '13 1:34:28 PM TamiTam
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Scarlet seems deeply lonely and overburdened by her responsibilities at home. In her isolation, she turned began to have passionate feelings for her music teacher, caused partly by her passion for art and music (which is why she describes lust with the metaphor of music: "long slim fingers gently caressing the fingers of me".) They had an affair which quickly turned toxic, with the the teacher stifling her creativity, pulling her away from her other responsibilities. The wolf appearance is ambiguous gender wise (it has a womanly face but androgynous body, it could be a woman or feminine man) , and the name "fey wolf" could suggest that the gender of the teacher was irrelevant, it was the connection to art and fantasy that attracted her to the wolf.
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Scarlet seems deeply lonely and overburdened by her responsibilities at home. In her isolation, she turned began to have passionate feelings for her music teacher, caused partly by her passion for art and music (which is why she describes lust with the metaphor of music: "long slim fingers gently caressing the fingers keys of me".) They had an affair which quickly turned toxic, with the the teacher stifling her creativity, pulling her away from her other responsibilities. The wolf appearance is ambiguous gender wise (it has a womanly face but androgynous body, it could be a woman or feminine man) , and the name "fey wolf" could suggest that the gender of the teacher was irrelevant, it was the connection to art and fantasy that attracted her to the wolf.
24th Nov '13 1:33:15 PM TamiTam
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[[WMG: Scarlet had an affair with her music teacher.]] Scarlet seems deeply lonely and overburdened by her responsibilities at home. In her isolation, she turned began to have passionate feelings for her music teacher, caused partly by her passion for art and music (which is why she describes lust with the metaphor of music: "long slim fingers gently caressing the fingers of me".) They had an affair which quickly turned toxic, with the the teacher stifling her creativity, pulling her away from her other responsibilities. The wolf appearance is ambiguous gender wise (it has a womanly face but androgynous body, it could be a woman or feminine man) , and the name "fey wolf" could suggest that the gender of the teacher was irrelevant, it was the connection to art and fantasy that attracted her to the wolf.
8th Nov '13 10:46:52 AM XFllo
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White Haired Pretty Boy was renamed to White Hair Black Heart. Zero Context Examples or shoe-horned examples are being removed.
All of the forest characters, GIW included, have a distinctly "elven" flavor to them, [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy Scarlet's Wolf]] not the least of them. This, combined with the MindRape experience you have in Grandmother's house for each of them makes me believe that the wolves are fairies of the worst kind, the type that just wants to have a bit of harmless fun, [[AndCallHimGeorge and yet have no idea what "harmless" for a human means]]. The Girl In White is a bit more benevolent, and yet when all the reds are dead, she attacks Grandmother in the belief that it will bring them back. Then again, they come back, so...Maybe she was right.
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All of the forest characters, GIW included, have a distinctly "elven" flavor to them, [[WhiteHairedPrettyBoy Scarlet's Wolf]] Wolf not the least of them. This, combined with the MindRape experience you have in Grandmother's house for each of them makes me believe that the wolves are fairies of the worst kind, the type that just wants to have a bit of harmless fun, [[AndCallHimGeorge and yet have no idea what "harmless" for a human means]]. The Girl In White is a bit more benevolent, and yet when all the reds are dead, she attacks Grandmother in the belief that it will bring them back. Then again, they come back, so...Maybe she was right.
24th Sep '13 12:02:40 PM OurPoorBrains
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* Scarlet, as is sometimes the case for victims of trauma, craves control in all aspects of her life. For her, grandmother's house is sterile with a surplus of order that brings to mind images of obsessive-compulsive-disorder. She expresses a dislike of men, as a result of her trauma, and generally wants to retreat from the world, into a solitary honing of her craft. (The piano instructor is not an actual person, simply a representative avatar of the art form that constantly beckons her to focus, practice and improve.) This retreat became a life-long pattern that inhibited her growth as a person, which is why there are no older versions of Red. Though she aged, she never grew.
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* Scarlet, as is sometimes the case for victims of trauma, craves control in all aspects of her life. For her, grandmother's house is sterile with a surplus of order that brings to mind images of obsessive-compulsive-disorder. She expresses a dislike of men, as a result of her trauma, and generally wants to retreat from the world, into a solitary honing of her craft. (The piano instructor is not an actual person, simply a representative avatar of the art form that constantly beckons her to focus, practice and improve.) This retreat became a life-long pattern that inhibited her growth as a person, which is why there are no older versions of Red. Though she aged, she never grew. grew. **Adds a layer of FridgeHorror to Carmen's comment, "Scarlet acts all grown up and stuff but I know [[DarkSecret she only thinks of]] [[RapeAsDrama one thing."]]
24th Sep '13 11:52:28 AM OurPoorBrains
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**Possibly not mistakes, but each wolf may represent a traumatic or significant event in her life that changed the person she was. It is possible to see how each girl's wolf might lead them to becoming the girl they are next: * Robin tries to play with a wild animal and is hurt/frightened when it attacks her. Though she is frightened off at first, children can be very adaptable and often grow curious about things that upset them, wanting to learn more so they can have some control. This leads to an interest in animals and nature, which leads to her becoming Rose. * Rose's wolf is a little hard to interpret, but one possibility is that it represents fantasy, delusion, or delirium caused by illness. Rose appears to be flying or drowning because she loses her grip on reality (she isn't "grounded") possibly because of an illness or fever, or a willful retreat into a fantasy world. Being lost in her own mind for such a long time might lead to a push back, a desire to go out and explore the world (particularly if Rose ''was'' ill and bedridden) turning her into the tomboysih Ginger. * Ginger may have had a bad experience with another girl her age. The two of them went too far, crossed a boundary that was not meant to be crossed (barbed wire) and someone got hurt. Ginger's wolf is a girl much like the girl in white, in a red dress. The color red has plenty of potential symbolism, of course, in this game and elsewhere. But two associations it has are blood and sin. Ginger, always one to push boundaries and explore, may have pressured her friend to go someplace dangerous. If her friend were hurt or killed, Ginger might see her as the girl in the red dress as an emblem of her guilt and regret. The guilt over her friend, as well as her own injuries (injuries that perhaps lead to her needing to wear a leg brace?) lead to her becoming the morbid, depressed Ruby. * Ruby seems to be a fairly solitary, outcast young girl, but her wolf is another human being (also the first definitely male wolf.) Since he has the trappings of a stereotypical "bad boy," it's easy to infer that at this age, Ruby fell in with a "bad crowd" and started experimenting with smoking, drinking and her own sexuality. By the time she becomes Carmen, she's been at this sort of experimentation for a while, though by her own admission she hasn't gone farther than "teasing." * Carmen, more than any of the other characters, has a strong undercurrent of sexual violence to her story. The "cautionary tale" type setting of her wolf, the symbolism in her version of grandmother's house, and other things suggest that she lost her virginity through an act of rape. The trauma of this is what leads to her becoming Scarlet. * Scarlet, as is sometimes the case for victims of trauma, craves control in all aspects of her life. For her, grandmother's house is sterile with a surplus of order that brings to mind images of obsessive-compulsive-disorder. She expresses a dislike of men, as a result of her trauma, and generally wants to retreat from the world, into a solitary honing of her craft. (The piano instructor is not an actual person, simply a representative avatar of the art form that constantly beckons her to focus, practice and improve.) This retreat became a life-long pattern that inhibited her growth as a person, which is why there are no older versions of Red. Though she aged, she never grew.
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