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31st Dec '15 10:09:02 PM jormis29
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Based on what is known about ''The Following,'' that show's antagonist seems very similar to Red John - highly murderous, has attracted a large cult of new killers that's growing exponentially, Manson-style. The ratings for ''TheMentalist'' have been plunging to new lows, so CBS may end up canceling it after the current season concludes in spring 2013. It's likely that Heller et al. won't be able to wrap up the Red John storyline properly, so they whispered the details in the ears of Kevin Williamson so he can continue the story himself, on a different network.

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Based on what is known about ''The Following,'' that show's antagonist seems very similar to Red John - highly murderous, has attracted a large cult of new killers that's growing exponentially, Manson-style. The ratings for ''TheMentalist'' ''The Mentalist'' have been plunging to new lows, so CBS may end up canceling it after the current season concludes in spring 2013. It's likely that Heller et al. won't be able to wrap up the Red John storyline properly, so they whispered the details in the ears of Kevin Williamson so he can continue the story himself, on a different network.
27th Dec '15 8:47:15 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: {{Psych}} [[MutuallyFictional is a TV show in the Mentalist-verse]] ]]

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[[WMG: {{Psych}} ''Series/{{Psych}}'' [[MutuallyFictional is a TV show in the Mentalist-verse]] ]]
26th Aug '15 9:30:05 AM Willbyr
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Taking the guess about Red John never having actually killed someone personally a step further. The Red John case is a [[GhostInTheShell Stand Alone Complex]]. All Red John killings are the work of copycats and "followers" who are following the whims of a man who doesn't exist and never really existed to begin with.

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Taking the guess about Red John never having actually killed someone personally a step further. The Red John case is a [[GhostInTheShell [[Anime/GhostInTheShellStandAloneComplex Stand Alone Complex]]. All Red John killings are the work of copycats and "followers" who are following the whims of a man who doesn't exist and never really existed to begin with.
17th Mar '15 8:26:35 PM nombretomado
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From a parallel universe; specifically one of the alternate universes from {{Fringe}}.

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From a parallel universe; specifically one of the alternate universes from {{Fringe}}.
''{{Series/Fringe}}''.
24th Aug '14 9:12:40 AM Sapphirea2
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[[WMG: Jane is really [[WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory Willy Wonka]].]]
No, not just The Wonka. The WONKA. Watch Gene Wilder's Wonka and Jane back to back and say that they're not the same person. Curly blond hair, fondness for waistcoats, sadistic glee in messing with people's heads, and they speak with almost the same inflection in their voices. Especially when they're really messing with people and pretending to be innocent.

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[[WMG: Jane is really [[WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory [[Film/WillyWonkaAndTheChocolateFactory Willy Wonka]].]]
No, not just The Wonka.TheWonka. The WONKA. Watch Gene Wilder's Wonka and Jane back to back and say that they're not the same person. Curly blond hair, fondness for waistcoats, sadistic glee in messing with people's heads, and they speak with almost the same inflection in their voices. Especially when they're really messing with people and pretending to be innocent.
23rd Apr '14 4:47:55 PM forsetipurge
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To take revenge on the team.

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To take revenge on the team.team.

[[WMG: Marcus Pike is the real Red John.]]
He is Mar.
13th Jan '14 3:18:38 AM forsetipurge
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In the end of the episode "Seeing Red", Kristina Frye tells Jane that his daughter never woke up from Red John's murder of her. Patrick Jane gets indignant and angry and sad not because she was right, but because she was WRONG. Red John almost never breaks his MO when he can help it, and wouldn't even spare a little girl from waking up and suffering her horrible death. Patrick's tears at the end are him re-living him finding her body.

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In the end of the episode "Seeing Red", Kristina Frye tells Jane that his daughter never woke up from Red John's murder of her. Patrick Jane gets indignant and angry and sad not because she was right, but because she was WRONG. Red John almost never breaks his MO when he can help it, and wouldn't even spare a little girl from waking up and suffering her horrible death. Patrick's tears at the end are him re-living him finding her body.body.

[[WMG: Volker's coming back.]]
To take revenge on the team.
10th Jan '14 8:10:32 PM nombretomado
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The way I see it, once everything comes to a head next season, Red John and Jane will start [[XanatosGambit gambiting each other]] ala DeathNote, each spinning [[GambitPileup dozens of ploys to catch the other]]. In the end, Lisbon is the key. Lisbon is the one person, the ONLY other person, that Jane trusts fully. He trusts the other team members but not in the same way. He trusts that Lisbon is willing to go all the way with helping him catch Red John, as revealed by him [[spoiler: showing her the video that Red John left for him, as well as letting her know the list of seven suspects.]] Red John knows this. He knows that Lisbon is Jane's best friend and possible love interest. Getting to Lisbon will be the final act of Red John's gambit, when he knows that Jane is close enough to take him out. However, Lisbon is the ActionGirl for a reason, and she may be the key to upending whatever plans Red John has for Jane. Or, Jane may know that involving Lisbon is his best chance for actually stopping Red John, as he's learned he can't do it by himself.

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The way I see it, once everything comes to a head next season, Red John and Jane will start [[XanatosGambit gambiting each other]] ala DeathNote, Manga/DeathNote, each spinning [[GambitPileup dozens of ploys to catch the other]]. In the end, Lisbon is the key. Lisbon is the one person, the ONLY other person, that Jane trusts fully. He trusts the other team members but not in the same way. He trusts that Lisbon is willing to go all the way with helping him catch Red John, as revealed by him [[spoiler: showing her the video that Red John left for him, as well as letting her know the list of seven suspects.]] Red John knows this. He knows that Lisbon is Jane's best friend and possible love interest. Getting to Lisbon will be the final act of Red John's gambit, when he knows that Jane is close enough to take him out. However, Lisbon is the ActionGirl for a reason, and she may be the key to upending whatever plans Red John has for Jane. Or, Jane may know that involving Lisbon is his best chance for actually stopping Red John, as he's learned he can't do it by himself.
8th Jan '14 6:14:28 AM JB5112
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[[WMG: Lisbon is a witch.]]

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[[WMG: Lisbon is a witch.]]]]

[[WMG: Jane is a real psychic but is rejecting his powers.]]
If you think about it, there's always the possibility that psychics in the Mentalist-verse really DO exist, and Jane IS one of them. When his father taught him to hit marks on people, Jane was a natural at it because he was a real psychic, and therefore could read EVERYBODY. When Red John killed his family, Jane's shame caused him to reject his powers and slag off all psychics. So, when he solves a crime, he really IS using his psychic powers to read people's minds and uses his elaborate set-ups and deductions to mask his abilities.
This troper is aware that this theory is a little weak, but...

[[WMG: Kristina Frye was wrong about Jane's daughter.]]
In the end of the episode "Seeing Red", Kristina Frye tells Jane that his daughter never woke up from Red John's murder of her. Patrick Jane gets indignant and angry and sad not because she was right, but because she was WRONG. Red John almost never breaks his MO when he can help it, and wouldn't even spare a little girl from waking up and suffering her horrible death. Patrick's tears at the end are him re-living him finding her body.
17th Dec '13 2:12:24 PM MrThorfan64
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* [[spoiler:Confirmed!]]
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