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While it would be poetic for '''everyone''' to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore through the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Warren is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the threat of the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]

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While it would be poetic for '''everyone''' to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore through the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Warren is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the threat of the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]]]

[[WMG: Assuming the fifteen extra gang members were real, Red Rock is still safe.]]
Even in the unlikely case that Daisy was telling the truth about the extra 15 gang members, since they were supposed to be be waiting for word before attacking the town, they would have been caught in the blizzard and frozen to death.
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While it would be poetic for '''everyone''' to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Warren is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the threat of the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]

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While it would be poetic for '''everyone''' to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw through the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Warren is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the threat of the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]
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The stagecoach driving the Donague gang was driven by all black horses. With the exception of Judy, their driver, they were all pure evil and quickly slaughtered all of the innocents at the haberdashery. So, it symbolised [[ChaoticEvil "all dark morality"]]. The latter stagecoach brought the three lawmen- the bounty hunters and the sheriff who while all ***very*** morally gray did ultimately believe in justice to the end. Even if only justice for some, rather than for all. Or their own brand of justice. It also drove the evil Daisy. So the lone white horse adds a bit of gray into the colour scheme of the horses, symbolising the [[BlackAndGrayMorality black and gray morality]] of the occupants.

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The stagecoach driving the Donague gang was driven by all black horses. With the exception of Judy, their driver, they were all pure evil and quickly slaughtered all of the innocents at the haberdashery. So, it symbolised [[ChaoticEvil "all dark morality"]].morality". The latter stagecoach brought the three lawmen- the bounty hunters and the sheriff who while all ***very*** morally gray did ultimately believe in justice to the end. Even if only justice for some, rather than for all. Or their own brand of justice. It also drove the evil Daisy. So the lone white horse adds a bit of gray into the colour scheme of the horses, symbolising the [[BlackAndGrayMorality black and gray morality]] of the occupants.

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[[WMG: Chris and/or Warren survived.]]
While it would be poetic for '''everyone''' to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Warren is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the threat of the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]

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[[WMG: Chris and/or Warren survived.]]
While it would be poetic for '''everyone''' to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Warren is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the threat of the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]



[[WMG: Had things gone to plan John Ruth according to Kurt Russell may have felt loss after seeing Daisy hang]]

Kurt Russell starts his own WMG in an interview with Russ Fisher on Nerdist December 15 2015 he suggests "Where, if, instead of getting to the point we see in the film, if she had gone to court and been hanged, then you see John Ruth watching her hang, he’s got to head on to the next one, and he just wanders down the street, his left arm, where she’d been chained, he doesn’t know what to do with it, he’s kind of lost."

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[[WMG: Had things gone Chris and/or Warren survived.]]
While it would be poetic for '''everyone'''
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died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his own WMG in an interview with Russ Fisher on Nerdist December 15 2015 he suggests "Where, if, instead of getting femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the point we see in nuts]], it's the film, if she had gone to court Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw the scrotum and been hanged, needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Warren is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then you see John Ruth watching her hang, he’s got sew it up. If they continue to head on to the next one, staunch their wounds with cloth and he hold tight, they might just wanders down have a chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the street, his left arm, where she’d been chained, he doesn’t know what to do with it, he’s kind threat of lost."the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]
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* How would Daisy know about the extra gang members? What if another lawman found them in Red Rock? Why would Jody need create a rescue mission if they had 15 other members waiting to ambush John Ruth? None of these are supported by the idea that Daisy was telling the truth.
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Tying in with Lincoln's letter at the end. This lone white horse and his black brethren must work together to draw their cargo through a blizzard and across vast mountains. They must also do so to survive

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Tying in with Lincoln's letter at the end. This lone white horse and his black brethren must work together to draw their cargo through a blizzard and across vast mountains. They must also do so to survive
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* Or his reaction to Daisy spitting on it was part of the act. It wouldn't make sense for him to not care if his letter from Abraham Lincoln was spat on.
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* Or maybe his reaction on seeing Daisy spit on the letter was because he actually treasured it, even though fake: He made a reasonable explanation about why, namely, that it was his protection against whites. Maybe he didn't make the forgery by himself, and it would be difficult to get another one so convincing.
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If we permit the possibility that Warren actually did have a letter from Lincoln, we must also consider this possibility. Her OhCrap and panicking reaction to Chris's rejection of her offer was not "Uh oh they've smelt mah horse-sheeeit! And ah'm gonna die!" but just "Uh oh I'm fuggin afraid for mah life, believe me ah'm telling the truth!". So basically, whether they lived or not, Warren and Chris have condemned the town to a sacking and for more pain and suffering to blight the Tarantinoverse. This possibility would allow for an equally ambiguous, bleak ending as [[Film/TheThing The Thing]].

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If we permit the possibility that Warren actually did have a letter from Lincoln, we must also consider this possibility. Her OhCrap and panicking reaction to Chris's rejection of her offer was not "Uh oh they've smelt mah horse-sheeeit! And ah'm gonna die!" but just "Uh oh I'm fuggin afraid for mah life, believe me ah'm telling the truth!". So basically, whether they lived or not, Warren and Chris have condemned the town to a sacking and for more pain and suffering to blight the Tarantinoverse. This possibility would allow for an equally ambiguous, bleak ending as [[Film/TheThing ''[[Film/TheThing1982 The Thing]].
Thing]]''.
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* Mannix's dismissal of the letter hinges on the thesis that Warren wouldn't have been drummed out of the service if he and Lincoln were truly friends, whether one way around (Lincoln would never have been friendly with a dishonored former soldier) or the other (that if Lincoln were friendly with Warren he'd never have been discharged in the first place). It's possible that the letter holds such value to Warren because he was friendly with Lincoln, even personally admired by him, ''and was drummed out anyway'' -- and that his bitterness about needing it to "disarm" hostile strangers is in part due to this. He lost Lincoln's personal regard, but is forced to continue operating under his auspices because his own authority as an accomplished black man is not enough without a white man to vouch for him.

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* Mannix's dismissal of the letter hinges on the thesis that Warren wouldn't have been drummed out of the service if he and Lincoln were truly friends, whether one way around (Lincoln would never have been friendly with a dishonored former soldier) or the other (that if Lincoln were friendly with Warren he'd never have been discharged in the first place). It's possible that the letter holds such value to Warren because he was friendly with Lincoln, even personally admired by him, ''and was drummed out anyway'' -- and that his bitterness about needing it to "disarm" hostile strangers is in part due to this. He lost Lincoln's personal regard, but is forced to continue operating under his auspices because his own authority as an accomplished black man is not enough without a white man to vouch for him.him.

[[WMG: Had things gone to plan John Ruth according to Kurt Russell may have felt loss after seeing Daisy hang]]

Kurt Russell starts his own WMG in an interview with Russ Fisher on Nerdist December 15 2015 he suggests "Where, if, instead of getting to the point we see in the film, if she had gone to court and been hanged, then you see John Ruth watching her hang, he’s got to head on to the next one, and he just wanders down the street, his left arm, where she’d been chained, he doesn’t know what to do with it, he’s kind of lost."
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When Daisy spit on the letter, Warren seemed genuinely shocked, to the point of throwing her out of the carriage with a punch, if he had really faked it, he wouldn't have been so angry at Daisy. Plus, it's already established that Warren is a very good liar, he could've just as easily lied about the letter being fake as he did about raping Smithers'son.

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When Daisy spit on the letter, Warren seemed genuinely shocked, to the point of throwing her out of the carriage with a punch, if he had really faked it, he wouldn't have been so angry at Daisy. Plus, it's already established that Warren is a very good liar, he could've just as easily lied about the letter being fake as he did about raping Smithers'son.Smithers'son.
* Mannix's dismissal of the letter hinges on the thesis that Warren wouldn't have been drummed out of the service if he and Lincoln were truly friends, whether one way around (Lincoln would never have been friendly with a dishonored former soldier) or the other (that if Lincoln were friendly with Warren he'd never have been discharged in the first place). It's possible that the letter holds such value to Warren because he was friendly with Lincoln, even personally admired by him, ''and was drummed out anyway'' -- and that his bitterness about needing it to "disarm" hostile strangers is in part due to this. He lost Lincoln's personal regard, but is forced to continue operating under his auspices because his own authority as an accomplished black man is not enough without a white man to vouch for him.
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If we permit the possibility that Warren actually did have a letter from Lincoln, we must also consider this possibility. Her OhCrap and panicking reaction to Chris's rejection of her offer was not "Uh oh they've smelt mah horse-sheeeit! And ah'm gonna die!" but just "Uh oh I'm fuggin afraid for mah life, believe me ah'm telling the truth!". So basically, whether they lived or not, Warren and Chris have condemned the town to a sacking and for more pain and suffering to blight the Tarantinoverse. This possibility would allow for an equally ambiguous, bleak ending as [[Film/TheThing The Thing]].

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If we permit the possibility that Warren actually did have a letter from Lincoln, we must also consider this possibility. Her OhCrap and panicking reaction to Chris's rejection of her offer was not "Uh oh they've smelt mah horse-sheeeit! And ah'm gonna die!" but just "Uh oh I'm fuggin afraid for mah life, believe me ah'm telling the truth!". So basically, whether they lived or not, Warren and Chris have condemned the town to a sacking and for more pain and suffering to blight the Tarantinoverse. This possibility would allow for an equally ambiguous, bleak ending as [[Film/TheThing The Thing]].Thing]].

[[WMG: It's possible that the Lincoln letter wasn't fake at all and that Warren was lying about its nature in the first place]]
When Daisy spit on the letter, Warren seemed genuinely shocked, to the point of throwing her out of the carriage with a punch, if he had really faked it, he wouldn't have been so angry at Daisy. Plus, it's already established that Warren is a very good liar, he could've just as easily lied about the letter being fake as he did about raping Smithers'son.
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[[WMG: A statement on the morality of the occupants.]

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[[WMG: A statement on the morality of the occupants.]]]
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[[WMG: Chris and Warren survived.]]

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[[WMG: Chris and and/or Warren survived.]]
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[[WMG: Chris and Wallace survived.]]
While it would be poetic for '''everyone''' to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Wallace is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the threat of the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]

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[[WMG: Chris and Wallace Warren survived.]]
While it would be poetic for '''everyone''' to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Wallace Warren is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the threat of the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]



Or if you don't subscribe to the theory from the above WMG that they lived, then it's a clue to the final deaths, off screen and after the credits. These men ended up taking control of the situation, right from the moment Wallace smelt a rat, and even being shot in the nuts wasn't enough for the villains to wrest control out of his hands. One black and one white horse lead the carriage, so they represent the "winners" here, who are black and white to match.

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Or if you don't subscribe to the theory from the above WMG that they lived, then it's a clue to the final deaths, off screen and after the credits. These men ended up taking control of the situation, right from the moment Wallace Warren smelt a rat, and even being shot in the nuts wasn't enough for the villains to wrest control out of his hands. One black and one white horse lead the carriage, so they represent the "winners" here, who are black and white to match.



If we permit the possibility that Wallace actually did have a letter from Lincoln, we must also consider this possibility. Her OhCrap and panicking reaction to Chris's rejection of her offer was not "Uh oh they've smelt mah horse-sheeeit! And ah'm gonna die!" but just "Uh oh I'm fuggin afraid for mah life, believe me ah'm telling the truth!". So basically, whether they lived or not, Wallace and Chris have condemned the town to a sacking and for more pain and suffering to blight the Tarantinoverse. This possibility would allow for an equally ambiguous, bleak ending as [[Film/TheThing The Thing]].

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If we permit the possibility that Wallace Warren actually did have a letter from Lincoln, we must also consider this possibility. Her OhCrap and panicking reaction to Chris's rejection of her offer was not "Uh oh they've smelt mah horse-sheeeit! And ah'm gonna die!" but just "Uh oh I'm fuggin afraid for mah life, believe me ah'm telling the truth!". So basically, whether they lived or not, Wallace Warren and Chris have condemned the town to a sacking and for more pain and suffering to blight the Tarantinoverse. This possibility would allow for an equally ambiguous, bleak ending as [[Film/TheThing The Thing]].
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If we permit the possibility that Wallace actually did have a letter from Lincoln, we must also consider this possibility. Her OhCrap and panicking reaction to Chris's rejection of her offer was not "Uh oh they've smelt mah horse-sheeeit! And ah'm gonna die!" but just "Uh oh I'm fuggin afraid for mah life, believe me ah'm telling the truth!". So basically, whether they lived or not, Wallace and Chris have condemned the town to a sacking and for more pain and suffering to blight the Tarantinoverse. Would allow for an equally ambiguous, bleak ending as [[Film/TheThing]].

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If we permit the possibility that Wallace actually did have a letter from Lincoln, we must also consider this possibility. Her OhCrap and panicking reaction to Chris's rejection of her offer was not "Uh oh they've smelt mah horse-sheeeit! And ah'm gonna die!" but just "Uh oh I'm fuggin afraid for mah life, believe me ah'm telling the truth!". So basically, whether they lived or not, Wallace and Chris have condemned the town to a sacking and for more pain and suffering to blight the Tarantinoverse. Would This possibility would allow for an equally ambiguous, bleak ending as [[Film/TheThing]].[[Film/TheThing The Thing]].
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[[WMG: Daisy was telling the truth about the threat of the fifteen extra gang members.]]
If we permit the possibility that Wallace actually did have a letter from Lincoln, we must also consider this possibility. Her OhCrap and panicking reaction to Chris's rejection of her offer was not "Uh oh they've smelt mah horse-sheeeit! And ah'm gonna die!" but just "Uh oh I'm fuggin afraid for mah life, believe me ah'm telling the truth!". So basically, whether they lived or not, Wallace and Chris have condemned the town to a sacking and for more pain and suffering to blight the Tarantinoverse. Would allow for an equally ambiguous, bleak ending as [[Film/TheThing]].
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While it would be poetic for ***everyone*** to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Wallace is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the threat of the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]

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While it would be poetic for ***everyone*** '''everyone''' to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Wallace is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the threat of the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]
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While it would be poetic for **everyone** to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Wallace is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance.

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While it would be poetic for **everyone** ***everyone*** to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Wallace is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance.
chance. [[BolivianArmyEnding If the threat of the fifteen extra gang members ends up being true, though...]]

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[[WMG: A clue to the final survivors.]]
Or if you don't subscribe to the theory from the above WMG that they lived, then it's a clue to the final deaths, off screen and after the credits. ONe black one white horse

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[[WMG: A clue to the final survivors.survivors and their victory.]]
Or if you don't subscribe to the theory from the above WMG that they lived, then it's a clue to the final deaths, off screen and after the credits. ONe These men ended up taking control of the situation, right from the moment Wallace smelt a rat, and even being shot in the nuts wasn't enough for the villains to wrest control out of his hands. One black and one white horse

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horse lead the carriage, so they represent the "winners" here, who are black and white to match.
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Or if you don't subscribe to the theory from the above WMG that they lived, then it's a clue to the final deaths, off screen and after the credits. ONe black one white horse

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Or if you don't subscribe to the theory from the above WMG that they lived, then it's a clue to the final deaths, off screen and after the credits. ONe black one white horsehorse

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[[WMG: Chris and Wallace survived.]]
While it would be poetic for **everyone** to have died, maybe Chris's leg wound didn't knick his femoral artery. And if there's any universe where a guy can survive a [[GroinAttack gunshot to the nuts]], it's the Tarantinoverse! Maybe it only blew apart one ball, tore threw the scrotum and needs a sew-up job. Which while agonising would be no worse than the current state of pain Wallace is in. Just knock him out or get him delirious on booze, then sew it up. If they continue to staunch their wounds with cloth and hold tight, they might just have a chance.

[[folder:The use of five black horses and one white horse to draw Ruth's stagecoach symbolises...]]
[[WMG: An inversion of the race ratio for the occupants.]]
One black man to three (four if you count the driver).

[[WMG: The very gradually improving race relations since Django Unchained and the Civil War]]
Tying in with Lincoln's letter at the end. This lone white horse and his black brethren must work together to draw their cargo through a blizzard and across vast mountains. They must also do so to survive

[[WMG: A statement on the morality of the occupants.]
The stagecoach driving the Donague gang was driven by all black horses. With the exception of Judy, their driver, they were all pure evil and quickly slaughtered all of the innocents at the haberdashery. So, it symbolised [[ChaoticEvil "all dark morality"]]. The latter stagecoach brought the three lawmen- the bounty hunters and the sheriff who while all ***very*** morally gray did ultimately believe in justice to the end. Even if only justice for some, rather than for all. Or their own brand of justice. It also drove the evil Daisy. So the lone white horse adds a bit of gray into the colour scheme of the horses, symbolising the [[BlackAndGrayMorality black and gray morality]] of the occupants.

[[WMG: A clue to the final survivors.]]
Or if you don't subscribe to the theory from the above WMG that they lived, then it's a clue to the final deaths, off screen and after the credits. ONe black one white horse

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