History WMG / TheGiver

5th May '18 5:24:55 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: The different Communities are related to the Vaults from {{Fallout}} in some form.]]

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[[WMG: The different Communities are related to the Vaults from {{Fallout}} ''VideoGame/{{Fallout}}'' in some form.]]
23rd Feb '18 2:08:08 PM Purplestuff2003
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* * [[https://www.goodreads.com/author/2493.Lois_Lowry/questions Jossed]] by WordOfGod at least with regards to the children being produced by sexual intercourse. No word on the fathers of the children.

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* * [[https://www.goodreads.com/author/2493.Lois_Lowry/questions Jossed]] by WordOfGod at least with regards to the children being produced by sexual intercourse. No word on the fathers of the children.
14th Oct '17 6:03:30 PM Nicoaln
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It doesn't make much sense to interpret the book as a cautionary tale of utopian schemes, since the Community could not exist without magic. Lois Lowry just wanted to write about a world devoid of emotions, and set up the backstory to justify it, especially when one includes the sequels, which show more of [[WorldGoneMad this world]]. As for everything else, blame your [[DeathOfTheAuthor English teachers]].

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It doesn't make much sense to interpret the book as a cautionary tale of utopian schemes, since the Community could not exist without magic. Lois Lowry just wanted to write about a world devoid of emotions, and set up the backstory to justify it, especially when one includes the sequels, which show more of [[WorldGoneMad this world]]. As for everything else, blame your [[DeathOfTheAuthor English teachers]].teachers]].

[[WMG: It's actually an allegory for sexual assault and the cycle of abuse.]]
The Giver gives memories to Jonas by... having Jonas take off his shirt in front of him and he places his hands on his bare back, which gives Jonas memories and emotions he doesn't know how to comprehend. When Jonas realises he can do the same to Gabriel, he is of course confused. The society is ''heavily'' puritanical (to the point of trying to suppress peoples' sexualities) yet The Giver is so important he can essentially get away with molesting little kids. One of the kids who was intended to be the next Giver committed suicide cause she didn't know how to handle it all. By running away, Jonas attempts to break the cycle, cause he would probably end up molesting Gabriel the same way The Giver molested him. This is how people who are "important" to society get away with sexual assault and how it can be covered up - and how he would end up perpetuating this cycle of sexual abuse.
31st May '17 8:54:17 AM BrendanRizzo
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* This seems very probable. The community itself needs a receiver of memory to function. So no doubt the original receiver himself/herself was more than likely in on it and became a spermdoner/birthmother with the full intent of passing on his "gift"(as the powers are described later in the series) on to other generations. The blue eyes being an oddity to the community could be left in to identify the people who are descendents of the line and may grow up to be candidates to be the next receiver.

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* This seems very probable. The community itself needs a receiver of memory to function. So no doubt the original receiver himself/herself was more than likely in on it and became a spermdoner/birthmother with the full intent of passing on his "gift"(as the powers are described later in the series) on to other generations. The blue eyes being an oddity to the community could be left in to identify the people who are descendents of the line and may grow up to be candidates to be the next receiver.receiver.

[[WMG: Everybody is overthinking it, and the book isn't an allegory of anything.]]
It doesn't make much sense to interpret the book as a cautionary tale of utopian schemes, since the Community could not exist without magic. Lois Lowry just wanted to write about a world devoid of emotions, and set up the backstory to justify it, especially when one includes the sequels, which show more of [[WorldGoneMad this world]]. As for everything else, blame your [[DeathOfTheAuthor English teachers]].
26th Mar '17 9:51:40 AM nombretomado
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* NorthKorea, anyone?

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* NorthKorea, UsefulNotes/NorthKorea, anyone?
16th Mar '16 7:46:16 AM Laina1312
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** This doesn't necessarily mean the Community wants Stirrings to be allowed in that time it's possible that the pill, which might be a hormonal supprssant, happens to inhibit conception as a side effect, so it has to be skipped to allow pregnancy,

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** This doesn't necessarily mean the Community wants Stirrings to be allowed in that time it's possible that the pill, which might be a hormonal supprssant, suppressant, happens to inhibit conception as a side effect, so it has to be skipped to allow pregnancy,
pregnancy.
** Probably it wouldn't be able to suppress hormones completely. That would cause people not to go through puberty, like hormone blockers for trans kids. Possibly it's like birth control in that it could be harmful for a pregnancy or anti-depressants, both of which can suppress sex drive, and both of which aren't usually advised to take during pregnancy.
4th Mar '16 7:34:10 AM MegaMarioMan
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In this alternate universe, Canada shut off the rest of the world to defect to Sameness. While more modern memories are said to have taken place hundreds of years ago, these are simply false memories that whoever rules the "country" has implanted even into the Receiver/Giver's mind. [[spoiler: At the end of the book, when Jonas and Gabe collapse on the hill, they are found by a caroling family from {{Detroit}}/{{Seattle}}/Buffalo, and are taken in by them.]]

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In this alternate universe, Canada shut off the rest of the world to defect to Sameness. While more modern memories are said to have taken place hundreds of years ago, these are simply false memories that whoever rules the "country" has implanted even into the Receiver/Giver's mind. [[spoiler: At the end of the book, when Jonas and Gabe collapse on the hill, they are found by a caroling family from {{Detroit}}/{{Seattle}}/Buffalo, UsefulNotes/{{Detroit}}/UsefulNotes/{{Seattle}}/Buffalo, and are taken in by them.]]
22nd Jan '16 5:01:33 AM ayjazz
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\n*** Even so, she seems to be more knowledgeable about things than the other elders, who are probably of the same age. During the kiss scene, while the others look upon it with confusion, she seems to know the implication of the act. Also, during the first meeting between the Elder and the Giver, The Giver remarks that sharing memories is a rule that is commonly broken, and seems to hint that he did it with her when they were young.

2nd Nov '15 11:09:03 AM devilkisses
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* If your eyes don't only have rods you end up with [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achromatopsia achromatopsia.]] Achromatopsia isn't just black and white vision. It also makes you photophobic and visually impaired. It doesn't seem like the characters in The Giver have those other symptoms.

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* If your eyes don't only have rods you end up with [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achromatopsia achromatopsia.]] Achromatopsia isn't just black and white vision. It also makes you photophobic and visually impaired. It doesn't seem like the characters in The Giver have those other symptoms.
2nd Nov '15 11:06:57 AM devilkisses
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* If your eyes don't only have rods you end up with [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achromatopsia achromatopsia.]] Achromatopsia isn't just black and white vision. It also makes you photophobic and visually impaired. It doesn't seem like the characters in The Giver have those other symptoms.
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