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[[WMG: Augustus is the anti-[[CatcherInTheRye Holden Caulfield]].]]
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[[WMG: Augustus is the anti-[[CatcherInTheRye anti-[[Literature/TheCatcherInTheRye Holden Caulfield]].]]
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[[WMG: Augustus actually smokes]]
He grabbed the cigarette because it has already become a habit for him. When Hazel dnapped at him, he realized that him smoking would really turn her off he decided to make up this "metaphor".
That also explains why he tried to buy cigarettes at midnight under his health conditions. He claimed it was "just to prove himself", but before Augustus was shown to know how sick he was, declaring that his body was almost all cancer. Considering the fact that he was addicted to nicotine it's makes more sense. I swear, take cigarettes away from a smoker and they will stop at nothing to get some after a short amount of time, because it's a freaking addiction.
He grabbed the cigarette because it has already become a habit for him. When Hazel dnapped at him, he realized that him smoking would really turn her off he decided to make up this "metaphor".
That also explains why he tried to buy cigarettes at midnight under his health conditions. He claimed it was "just to prove himself", but before Augustus was shown to know how sick he was, declaring that his body was almost all cancer. Considering the fact that he was addicted to nicotine it's makes more sense. I swear, take cigarettes away from a smoker and they will stop at nothing to get some after a short amount of time, because it's a freaking addiction.
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From their background (Holden's midcentury/Silent Generation, East Coast, prep school, hanger-on of the fencing team; Gus is millenial, Upper Midwestern, public school, former basketball star) to their affectations (Caulfield hates "phonies", Hollywood and the word grand, Waters is acutely aware that he is playing the role of Augustus Waters and his first word in the book is "Grand") to their aspirations (Holden wants to stay a kid, Augustus wants to be remembered as a Great Man but [[spoiler: dies while still a boy]]). Heck, even their ''authors'' (Salinger was famously a recluse, Green a social-media phenomenon).
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From their background (Holden's midcentury/Silent Generation, East Coast, prep school, hanger-on of the fencing team; Gus is millenial, Upper Midwestern, public school, former basketball star) to their affectations (Caulfield hates "phonies", Hollywood and the word grand, Waters is acutely aware that he is playing the role of Augustus Waters and his first word in the book is "Grand") to their aspirations (Holden wants to stay a kid, Augustus wants to be remembered as a Great Man but [[spoiler: dies while still a boy]]). Heck, even their ''authors'' (Salinger was famously a recluse, Green is a social-media phenomenon).
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** If Kaitlyn's reaction is anything to go by, Augustus is hot as all get-out and could pick up chicks pretty easily. If he weren't, you know, still mourning for his girlfriend who died of brain cancer.
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** If Kaitlyn's reaction is anything to go by, Augustus is hot as all get-out and could pick up chicks pretty easily. If he weren't, you know, still mourning for his girlfriend who died of brain cancer.cancer.
[[WMG:Augustus wasn't real, and Hazel was in the hospital the whole book, dreaming all the events that supposedly happened]]
Augustus was merely a hallucination caused by a lack of oxygen in Hazel's brain. When the doctors were able to provide her with oxygen, he "died" (i.e. the hallucination went away). This explains why her time with him was so perfect - it was like a dream.
[[WMG:Augustus wasn't real, and Hazel was in the hospital the whole book, dreaming all the events that supposedly happened]]
Augustus was merely a hallucination caused by a lack of oxygen in Hazel's brain. When the doctors were able to provide her with oxygen, he "died" (i.e. the hallucination went away). This explains why her time with him was so perfect - it was like a dream.
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*** He could've changed the names and just enough of the events that he doesn't get sued.
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** A bit of a FridgeLogic for me: How on earth would he have gotten permission from Hazel and Gus's parents to write a book based on their children? They hardly know anything about him short of him existing and living in Amsterdam, Gus's parents are, of course, in mourning, and assuming Hazel told her parents how Van Houten acted around her and Gus, why would they ever want to have anything to do with him? It seems like he's asking for one big lawsuit from the two families.
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** A bit of a FridgeLogic for me: How on earth would he have gotten permission from Hazel and Gus's parents to write a book based on their children? They hardly know anything about him short of him existing existing, a published author of one book and living in Amsterdam, Amsterdam. Gus's parents are, of course, in mourning, and assuming Hazel told her parents how Van Houten acted around her and Gus, why would they ever want to have anything to do with him? It just seems like he's asking for one big lawsuit from trouble writing about the personal lives of two families.kids he knew for a day at most.
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** A bit of a FridgeLogic for me: How on earth would he have gotten permission from Hazel and Gus's parents to write a book based on their children? They hardly know anything about him short of him existing and living in Amsterdam, Gus's parents are, of course, in mourning, and assuming Hazel told her parents how Van Houten acted around her and Gus, why would they ever want to have anything to do with him? It seems like he's asking for one big lawsuit from the two families.
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* Okay... first of all, he was NEC at the beginning of the story. He had no reason to think he was going to die. Second of all, why would he go to all the trouble of taking Hazel to Amsterdam? He could've very easily wooed her at home. I mean, he's a bit pretentious, yes, but he never came off as a straight-up ''asshole''.
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* Okay... first of all, he was NEC at the beginning of the story. He had no reason to think he was going to die. Second of all, why would he go to all the trouble of taking Hazel to Amsterdam? He could've very easily wooed her at home. I mean, he's a bit pretentious, yes, but he never came off as a straight-up ''asshole''.''asshole''.
** If Kaitlyn's reaction is anything to go by, Augustus is hot as all get-out and could pick up chicks pretty easily. If he weren't, you know, still mourning for his girlfriend who died of brain cancer.
** If Kaitlyn's reaction is anything to go by, Augustus is hot as all get-out and could pick up chicks pretty easily. If he weren't, you know, still mourning for his girlfriend who died of brain cancer.
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** That would certainly explain how he'd know about the egging incident and the existance of Hazel's fellow classmates (including the best friend who had the hots for Augustus.)
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** That would certainly explain how he'd know about the egging incident incident, the meeting with the girl and her mother, and the existance of Hazel's fellow classmates (including the best friend who had the hots for Augustus.)
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** That would certainly explain how he'd know about the egging incident and the existance of Hazel's fellow classmates (including the best friend who had the hots for Augustus.)
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**That's not how weed works.
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* Okay... first of all, he was NEC at the beginning of the story. He had no reason to think he was going to die. Second of all, why would he go to all the trouble of taking Hazel to Amsterdam? He could've very easily wooed her at home. I mean, he's a bit pretentious, yes, but he never came off as a straight-up ''asshole''.
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* Hazel and Augustus got medical marijuana from Isaac which caused them to hallucinate about the existence of An Imperial Affliction and Van Houten. They went to Amsterdam (marijuana is more or less legal there) their entire discussion with Lidewij and Van Houten was a hallucination. Van Houten was so mean to Hazel because he was a manifestation of the fear she has for her loved ones' well being once she passes away. When Van Houten shows up again, her parents have already told her that they plan on helping others and will be okay after she passes, so Van Houten is much nicer.
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* Hazel and Augustus got medical marijuana from Isaac which caused them to hallucinate about the existence of An Imperial Affliction and Van Houten. They went to Amsterdam (marijuana is more or less legal there) their entire discussion with Lidewij and Van Houten was a hallucination. Van Houten was so mean to Hazel because he was a manifestation of the fear she has for her loved ones' well being once she passes away. When Van Houten shows up again, her parents have already told her that they plan on helping others and will be okay after she passes, so Van Houten is much nicer.nicer.
[[WMG:Augustus went to the support group to get a date]]
Gus appears to have dated two girls in his life, both of which he took the first step with and both of which he knew were dying. He's a teenage boy knowing he might die and he wants to get laid before he goes so he goes for targets he thinks will be easy - girls his own age who are also likely to die and therefore might be eager to try sex before they go. Him joking to Hazel that he hopes taking her to Amsterdam will get him laid might not have been a joke after all. It's not like he spent much time at that support group actually supporting Isaac - most of his time was spent staring at Hazel and later trying to get her to go home with him.
[[WMG:Augustus went to the support group to get a date]]
Gus appears to have dated two girls in his life, both of which he took the first step with and both of which he knew were dying. He's a teenage boy knowing he might die and he wants to get laid before he goes so he goes for targets he thinks will be easy - girls his own age who are also likely to die and therefore might be eager to try sex before they go. Him joking to Hazel that he hopes taking her to Amsterdam will get him laid might not have been a joke after all. It's not like he spent much time at that support group actually supporting Isaac - most of his time was spent staring at Hazel and later trying to get her to go home with him.
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* Hazel and Augustus got medical marijuana from Isaac which caused them to hallucinate about the existence of An Imperial Affliction and Van Houten. They went to Amsterdam (marijuana is more or less legal there) their entire discussion with Lidewij and Van Houten was a hallucination. Van Houten was so mean to Hazel because he was a manifestation of the fear she has for her loved ones' well being once she passes away. When Van Houten shows up again, her parents have already told her that they plan on helping others and will be okay after she passes, so Van Houten is much nicer.
** This is the stupidest thing I've ever read, to be truthful with you. Firstly, none of that makes any basic logical sense, and secondly, marijuana doesn't work like that at all.
** This is the stupidest thing I've ever read, to be truthful with you. Firstly, none of that makes any basic logical sense, and secondly, marijuana doesn't work like that at all.
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* Hazel and Augustus got medical marijuana from Isaac which caused them to hallucinate about the existence of An Imperial Affliction and Van Houten. They went to Amsterdam (marijuana is more or less legal there) their entire discussion with Lidewij and Van Houten was a hallucination. Van Houten was so mean to Hazel because he was a manifestation of the fear she has for her loved ones' well being once she passes away. When Van Houten shows up again, her parents have already told her that they plan on helping others and will be okay after she passes, so Van Houten is much nicer.
** This is the stupidest thing I've ever read, to be truthful with you. Firstly, none of that makes any basic logical sense, and secondly, marijuana doesn't work like that at all.nicer.
** This is the stupidest thing I've ever read, to be truthful with you. Firstly, none of that makes any basic logical sense, and secondly, marijuana doesn't work like that at all.
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* It would also explain why [=TFiOS=] can come off as a bit pretentious or an acquired taste (I love the book, but let's be honest), or why Hazel and Gus are so much more intelligent than the average teens. ''Van Houten'' comes off as a bit pretentious, and it's clear ''An Imperial Affliction'' isn't for everyone, but he also seems self-aware enough to realize it (hence why he had Hazel's dad admit he didn't like ''An Imperial Affliction'' as much as Hazel did), and Hazel and Gus are probably the first teenagers he's met in a long time. He realized they were smarter than average, but when he wrote them, he elevated their intellect to almost adult level, while still making an effort to keep it believable (hence why they misunderstood his comment about infinities).
* He could've found out about certain other details from Lidiwidg. If he made an effort to sober up and write again, she may have been willing to tell him about Gus and Hazel's kiss in the Anne Frank house, etc. She may have even contacted Hazel to ask for other details!
* He could've found out about certain other details from Lidiwidg. If he made an effort to sober up and write again, she may have been willing to tell him about Gus and Hazel's kiss in the Anne Frank house, etc. She may have even contacted Hazel to ask for other details!
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** Who needs [[WordOfGod]]? [[TheHeroDies She took the lift, didn't she?]]
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** Who needs [[WordOfGod]]? [[WordOfGod the author]]? [[TheHeroDies She took the lift, didn't she?]]
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** Who needs [[WordOfGod ?]] [[TheHeroDies She took the lift, didn't she?]]
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** Who needs [[WordOfGod ?]] [[WordOfGod]]? [[TheHeroDies She took the lift, didn't she?]]
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**Who needs [[WordOfGod ?]] [[TheHeroDies She took the lift, didn't she?]]
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* Hazel and Augustus got medical marijuana from Isaac which caused them to hallucinate about the existence of An Imperial Affliction and Van Houten. They went to Amsterdam (marijuana is more or less legal there) their entire discussion with Lidewij and Van Houten was a hallucination. Van Houten was so mean to Hazel because he was a manifestation of the fear she has for her loved ones' well being once she passes away. When Van Houten shows up again, her parents have already told her that they plan on helping others and will be okay after she passes, so Van Houten is much nicer.
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* Hazel and Augustus got medical marijuana from Isaac which caused them to hallucinate about the existence of An Imperial Affliction and Van Houten. They went to Amsterdam (marijuana is more or less legal there) their entire discussion with Lidewij and Van Houten was a hallucination. Van Houten was so mean to Hazel because he was a manifestation of the fear she has for her loved ones' well being once she passes away. When Van Houten shows up again, her parents have already told her that they plan on helping others and will be okay after she passes, so Van Houten is much nicer.nicer.
** This is the stupidest thing I've ever read, to be truthful with you. Firstly, none of that makes any basic logical sense, and secondly, marijuana doesn't work like that at all.
** This is the stupidest thing I've ever read, to be truthful with you. Firstly, none of that makes any basic logical sense, and secondly, marijuana doesn't work like that at all.
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** Also, it was stated in the book that they ''did'' use a condom. Of course, there's a chance that it may not have worked, but still.
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* That would explain a lot of things, but here's a trip-up: why would he depict himself as a colossal jackass to Hazel and Augustus? Would that be his way of redeeming himelf by showing the world how he really is, how he treated two of his fans who bothered to come to Amsterdam to see him?
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* That would explain a lot of things, but here's a trip-up: why would he depict himself as a colossal jackass to Hazel and Augustus? Would that be his way of redeeming himelf himself by showing the world how he really is, how he treated two of his fans who bothered to come to Amsterdam to see him?
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* And Hazel will read it just before she dies just so she can tell Augustus the end in the afterlife.afterlife.
[[WMG: Van Houten was a product of Hazel and August's imagination ]]
*Hazel and Augustus got medical marijuana from Isaac which caused them to hallucinate about the existence of An Imperial Affliction and Van Houten. They went to Amsterdam (marijuana is more or less legal there) their entire discussion with Lidewij and Van Houten was a hallucination. Van Houten was so mean to Hazel because he was a manifestation of the fear she has for her loved ones' well being once she passes away. When Van Houten shows up again, her parents have already told her that they plan on helping others and will be okay after she passes, so Van Houten is much nicer.
[[WMG: Van Houten was a product of Hazel and August's imagination ]]
*Hazel and Augustus got medical marijuana from Isaac which caused them to hallucinate about the existence of An Imperial Affliction and Van Houten. They went to Amsterdam (marijuana is more or less legal there) their entire discussion with Lidewij and Van Houten was a hallucination. Van Houten was so mean to Hazel because he was a manifestation of the fear she has for her loved ones' well being once she passes away. When Van Houten shows up again, her parents have already told her that they plan on helping others and will be okay after she passes, so Van Houten is much nicer.
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Film Augustus appreciates Metal Gear Solid 2.
