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The aliens arrived in 1944, at the height of WorldWar2 - the Axis were shoving all the "inferior races" into concentration camps, the Allies were shoving Japanese into concentration camps, and then they themselves were shoved into a concentration camp. Only an idiot would trust someone who's shoved them into a concentration camp, so they keep their mouths shut to protect the ones who escaped. And the government keeps getting more and more paranoid because these uppity aliens won't bend over the way good citizens do, and the aliens keep getting more and more paranoid because the government is becoming more and more repressive. "The Ev3nt" is when all that paranoia finally escalates into war.

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The aliens arrived in 1944, at the height of WorldWar2 UsefulNotes/WorldWar2 - the Axis were shoving all the "inferior races" into concentration camps, the Allies were shoving Japanese into concentration camps, and then they themselves were shoved into a concentration camp. Only an idiot would trust someone who's shoved them into a concentration camp, so they keep their mouths shut to protect the ones who escaped. And the government keeps getting more and more paranoid because these uppity aliens won't bend over the way good citizens do, and the aliens keep getting more and more paranoid because the government is becoming more and more repressive. "The Ev3nt" is when all that paranoia finally escalates into war.
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Notice how quickly he shifted from "reasonable" to homicidal, and continuously cuts off any attempts at negotiation or explanation, something a person trained in negotiation would ''never'' do. As soon as he realizes Sophia has no leverage, he goes straight for the mass murder button When ''Dempsey'' is the voice of restraint, you know there's a problem. Martinez's [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent President Personable]] act is just a front for someone who's essentially {{Dexter}} without a code.

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Notice how quickly he shifted from "reasonable" to homicidal, and continuously cuts off any attempts at negotiation or explanation, something a person trained in negotiation would ''never'' do. As soon as he realizes Sophia has no leverage, he goes straight for the mass murder button When ''Dempsey'' is the voice of restraint, you know there's a problem. Martinez's [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent President Personable]] act is just a front for someone who's essentially {{Dexter}} Series/{{Dexter}} without a code.
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Now that's what I call a conspiracy.

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Now that's what I call a conspiracy.

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They got Michael to crash the plane to kill Sophia, or at least put doubt in the president's mind. They need to get rid of Sean because he's the only person who could clear the name of the aliens.

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They got Michael to crash the plane to kill Sophia, or at least put doubt in the president's mind. They need to get rid of Sean because he's the only person who could clear the name of the aliens.
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* Oh, and it was the DCI who arranged for the attack to keep the President from revealing the existence of the aliens, and the aliens who averted it in the hopes of preventing another War On Terror - only now the President has been infected with paranoia and is ordering a witch hunt. IT IS GOING TO GET WORSE.

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* Oh, and it was the DCI DNI who arranged for the attack to keep the President from revealing the existence of the aliens, and the aliens who averted it in the hopes of preventing another War On Terror - only now the President has been infected with paranoia and is ordering a witch hunt. IT IS GOING TO GET WORSE.



* I believe that the Event will happen, until one tiny minute detail goes wrong and The Event does not happen, but then they go on the TARDIS (Or whatever the hell the plane's s'pposed to be) And go Back to the Future whereas then they change so the event happens but because they changed the original event goes horrendously wrong, and The president kills them all beforehand. Discuss.

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* I believe that the The Event will happen, until one tiny minute detail goes wrong and The Event does not happen, but then they go on the TARDIS (Or whatever the hell the plane's s'pposed to be) And go Back to the Future whereas then they change so the event happens but because they changed the original event goes horrendously wrong, and The president kills them all beforehand. Discuss.



Based on his transformation in the mirror into a, younger self at the end of "For the Good of the Country". Which would make the Event the Apocalypse. Alternately...

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Based on his transformation in the mirror into a, younger self at the end of "For the Good of the Country". Which would make the Event the Apocalypse. Alternately...
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Sophia managed to get Isabelle to confess almost immediately, and Isabelle would, under normal circumstances, probably try to deny everything. But instead she does everything Sophia says, albeit tearfully. It could be genetic, with Thomas and Sophia being a Queen-type caste of the species, and Thomas has similar abilities (although Sophia's are more powerful). Isabelle said that if Thomas killed Sophia, the aliens would follow him, but they do still admire Sophia as a leader no matter what.

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Sophia managed to get Isabelle Isabel to confess almost immediately, and Isabelle would, under normal circumstances, probably try to deny everything. But instead she does everything Sophia says, albeit tearfully. It could be genetic, with Thomas and Sophia being a Queen-type caste of the species, and Thomas has similar abilities (although Sophia's are more powerful). Isabelle Isabel said that if Thomas killed Sophia, the aliens would follow him, but they do still admire Sophia as a leader no matter what.



** Confirmed in the season finale.

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** Confirmed in the season finale. \n It should have been obvious given they look so much like us, with only 1% difference in DNA.
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This is somewhat implied by the cave paintings, and Dempsey's talk about being from a line of "sentinels" that have opposed going back thousands of years.



[[WMG: The Event is a galaxy-wide Flash forward with catastrophic results]]

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* While he does become more a KnightTempler, he shows many characteristics opposed to sociopathy, for instance empathy with the aliens earlier.



In addition, the [[spoiler: death of Thomas]] may well have been intended as the second season finale.The production values and nonstop action of the Inostranka raid is just the kind of thing that seems like it would be in a season finale, with a big event (the turning of Thomas against Sophia and the freeing of the detainees) as the big cliffhanger of the season. Because the series is obviously nearing cancellation and thus the writers are being forced to WrapItUp to make the first (and only) season finale an appropriate GrandFinale that ties up everything, they were forced to rush through everything, cutting out many of the flashbacks and putting the Inostranka raid in the middle of the season instead. Afterwards, there probably would've been more flashbacks about Thomas' early time on Earth, his motivations, etc., as he became the second season's major villain. Meanwhile, Sean and Vicky would have much longer to bond on their journey to France and their relationship would be quite intense by the time they finally reached Dempsey's lair in the Jura Mountains (probably they get caught and captured and that's the second season cliffhanger), while the season itself would've ended with [[spoiler: Thomas' death]] and Sophia's reaction.

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In addition, the [[spoiler: death of Thomas]] may well have been intended as the second season finale. The production values and nonstop action of the Inostranka raid is just the kind of thing that seems like it would be in a season finale, with a big event (the turning of Thomas against Sophia and the freeing of the detainees) as the big cliffhanger of the season. Because the series is obviously nearing cancellation and thus the writers are being forced to WrapItUp to make the first (and only) season finale an appropriate GrandFinale that ties up everything, they were forced to rush through everything, cutting out many of the flashbacks and putting the Inostranka raid in the middle of the season instead. Afterwards, there probably would've been more flashbacks about Thomas' early time on Earth, his motivations, etc., as he became the second season's major villain. Meanwhile, Sean and Vicky would have much longer to bond on their journey to France and their relationship would be quite intense by the time they finally reached Dempsey's lair in the Jura Mountains (probably they get caught and captured and that's the second season cliffhanger), while the season itself would've ended with [[spoiler: Thomas' death]] and Sophia's reaction.




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** Confirmed in the season finale.
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[[WMG: Sophia will [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifice]] herself to stop the virus but her people will still get to Earth.]]
* Sophia, feeling remorse for what she's done, will make a deal with the president to stop the virus, asking only that her people are treated well upon their arrival on Earth. Stopping the virus will involve her sacrificing her life.
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[[WMG: The aliens are humans who left Earth a long time ago.]]

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* The way things are going, this will probably be either debunked or confirmed in the next episode.

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[[WMG: Using Leila to mutate the disease will come back to bite Sophia in the ass]]
It will mutate but to a form that effects Sophia's people as well as humans.
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* [[spoiler: {{Jossed}}, Dempsey's dead and now Sophia is clearly the BigBad]].
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[[WMG: The Inostranka raid 2-hour episode was probably meant to be the original season finale. In addition, the [[spoiler: death of Thomas]] may well have been intended as the second season finale.]]
The production values and nonstop action of the Inostranka raid is just the kind of thing that seems like it would be in a season finale, with a big event (the turning of Thomas against Sophia and the freeing of the detainees) as the big cliffhanger of the season. Because the series is obviously nearing cancellation and thus the writers are being forced to WrapItUp to make the first (and only) season finale an appropriate GrandFinale that ties up everything, they were forced to rush through everything, cutting out many of the flashbacks and putting the Inostranka raid in the middle of the season instead. Afterwards, there probably would've been more flashbacks about Thomas' early time on Earth, his motivations, etc., as he became the second season's major villain. Meanwhile, Sean and Vicky would have much longer to bond on their journey to France and their relationship would be quite intense by the time they finally reached Dempsey's lair in the Jura Mountains (probably they get caught and captured and that's the second season cliffhanger), while the season itself would've ended with [[spoiler: Thomas' death]] and Sophia's reaction.

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[[WMG: The Inostranka raid 2-hour episode was probably meant to be the original season finale. ]]
In addition, the [[spoiler: death of Thomas]] may well have been intended as the second season finale.]]
The production values and nonstop action of the Inostranka raid is just the kind of thing that seems like it would be in a season finale, with a big event (the turning of Thomas against Sophia and the freeing of the detainees) as the big cliffhanger of the season. Because the series is obviously nearing cancellation and thus the writers are being forced to WrapItUp to make the first (and only) season finale an appropriate GrandFinale that ties up everything, they were forced to rush through everything, cutting out many of the flashbacks and putting the Inostranka raid in the middle of the season instead. Afterwards, there probably would've been more flashbacks about Thomas' early time on Earth, his motivations, etc., as he became the second season's major villain. Meanwhile, Sean and Vicky would have much longer to bond on their journey to France and their relationship would be quite intense by the time they finally reached Dempsey's lair in the Jura Mountains (probably they get caught and captured and that's the second season cliffhanger), while the season itself would've ended with [[spoiler: Thomas' death]] and Sophia's reaction.
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[[WMG: The Inostranka raid 2-hour episode was probably meant to be the original season finale. In addition, the [[spoiler: death of Thomas]] may well have been intended as the second season finale.]]
The production values and nonstop action of the Inostranka raid is just the kind of thing that seems like it would be in a season finale, with a big event (the turning of Thomas against Sophia and the freeing of the detainees) as the big cliffhanger of the season. Because the series is obviously nearing cancellation and thus the writers are being forced to WrapItUp to make the first (and only) season finale an appropriate GrandFinale that ties up everything, they were forced to rush through everything, cutting out many of the flashbacks and putting the Inostranka raid in the middle of the season instead. Afterwards, there probably would've been more flashbacks about Thomas' early time on Earth, his motivations, etc., as he became the second season's major villain. Meanwhile, Sean and Vicky would have much longer to bond on their journey to France and their relationship would be quite intense by the time they finally reached Dempsey's lair in the Jura Mountains (probably they get caught and captured and that's the second season cliffhanger), while the season itself would've ended with [[spoiler: Thomas' death]] and Sophia's reaction.

[[WMG: Sophia's people and Martinez will eventually be forced to put aside their differences to take down Dempsey.]]
Watch how Dempsey is currently messing around with some kind of ancient ruin. He's obviously after more than just eternal youth or money, he seems to want some kind of power seeing as how he tried to kill the president (and Sophia, though she wasn't his target at the time). He's likely the person Thomas was referring to when he was telling Sophia just why humans are such monsters, Thomas probably stumbled on one of the half-alien girls who Dempsey drained of youth and this may have been the last straw to set him against the human race. Eventually, Dempsey is going to become enough of a threat to force Sophia and Martinez to put aside their feud and unite to stop whatever plans he's cooked up. Dempsey will end up as the BigBad of the whole series.
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Notice how quickly he shifted from "reasonable" to homicidal, and continuously cuts off any attempts at negotiation or explanation, something a person trained in negotiation would ''never'' do. As soon as he realizes Sophia has no leverage, he goes straight for the mass murder button When ''Dempsey'' is the voice of restraint, you know there's a problem. Martinez's PresidentPersonable act is just a front for someone who's essentially {{Dexter}} without a code.

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Notice how quickly he shifted from "reasonable" to homicidal, and continuously cuts off any attempts at negotiation or explanation, something a person trained in negotiation would ''never'' do. As soon as he realizes Sophia has no leverage, he goes straight for the mass murder button When ''Dempsey'' is the voice of restraint, you know there's a problem. Martinez's PresidentPersonable [[OurPresidentsAreDifferent President Personable]] act is just a front for someone who's essentially {{Dexter}} without a code.
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[[WMG: Martinez is a functioning psychopath.]]
Notice how quickly he shifted from "reasonable" to homicidal, and continuously cuts off any attempts at negotiation or explanation, something a person trained in negotiation would ''never'' do. As soon as he realizes Sophia has no leverage, he goes straight for the mass murder button When ''Dempsey'' is the voice of restraint, you know there's a problem. Martinez's PresidentPersonable act is just a front for someone who's essentially {{Dexter}} without a code.
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[[WMG: The captives are aliens.]]
They have a mysterious agenda, their leader has only one name, and the director of the CIA is convinced that they are a horrific threat. They also apparently have teleportation technology, although that wasn't from the captives, but from someone known to them.
* Sophia does have a last name. It's Maguire. Of course, an alien would be perfectly capable of making one up...
* Seemingly confirmed in episode 2, with a [[YouFailBiologyForever surprisingly]] [[AvertedTrope realistic]] [[ShownTheirWork discussion]] of how their DNA relates to that of ''Homo sapiens''. Then again, all we know is that the experts studying the prisoners ''believe'' they are aliens. The prisoners have told them ''nothing'', so the truth could be something completely beyond the experts' capacity to accept.
* So, the event is first contact?
** The Event is in the future. It could be ''official'' first contact, but its not the real one. And considering that the government doesn't know about it, it seems doubtful that its something so simple.

[[WMG: The captives are psychics.]]
Possibly the result of some failed super-soldier program.

[[WMG: The captives are psychic aliens.]]
Same as the first one, except instead of technology, it's powers.

[[WMG: The captives are Canadians.]]
The show specifically says that they are "not Americans", but the leader has a North American accent. The only other option is that they come from Canada.

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[[WMG: The captives are aliens.aliens were surveyors looking for a new home planet.]]
They have Barely a mysterious agenda, their leader has only one name, and WMG since this is clearly what all the director hints are leading toward, but this is the best place to put it. Their home planet is stated to be nearly dead, therefore they need a new one. Sophia's objectives seem to be dealing with the humans as little as possible so as not to corrupt us according to her version of the CIA is convinced that they are a horrific threat. They also apparently Prime Directive and getting her people out of here, but some have teleportation technology, although that wasn't from decided to integrate and Thomas wants to kill us all and take the captives, but from someone known to them.
* Sophia does have a last name. It's Maguire. Of course, an alien would be perfectly capable of making one up...
* Seemingly confirmed in episode 2, with a [[YouFailBiologyForever surprisingly]] [[AvertedTrope realistic]] [[ShownTheirWork discussion]] of how their DNA relates to that of ''Homo sapiens''. Then again, all we know is that the experts studying the prisoners ''believe'' they are aliens.
planet. The prisoners have told them ''nothing'', so the truth could be something completely beyond the experts' capacity to accept.
* So, the event is first contact?
** The Event is in the future. It could be ''official'' first contact, but its not the real one. And considering that the government doesn't know about it, it seems doubtful that its something so simple.

[[WMG: The captives are psychics.]]
Possibly the result of some failed super-soldier program.

[[WMG: The captives are psychic aliens.]]
Same as the first one, except instead of technology, it's powers.

[[WMG: The captives are Canadians.]]
The show specifically says that they are "not Americans", but the leader has a North American accent. The only other option is that
question is, why did they come from Canada.
75 million light years to find a new home?



[[WMG: The captives are time travelers.]]
Because why not.
* This makes the most sense to this troper for the sole fact that they only have 1% different DNA than us. by the time we have that technology we must have evolved a bit.
* This seems the most likely to me, too. The reason Sophia disagrees with the villain guy's tactics? Because she's afraid that he could screw up the timeline. The reason she refuses to tell the president? Because then the government would want to hold them for questioning even ''more''.
* this also seems more likely than aliens because it seems like they're specifically avoiding refering there home as another planet
** the most recent episode says that they need specific chemicals for their tech to go from "being able to teleport a plane" to "taking them home" if they were just going farther they wouldn't need new materials they would just need more



[[WMG: This is what The Event will be.]]
The girlfriend who mysteriously disappeared from the cruise stumbled into an alternate dimension filled with unicorns. However, the unicorns have seen our world and is angry with what the President is doing to it. The girlfriend is also not happy with it, so she and the Mighty Unicorn King team up to train an elite group of rainbow filled assassins to kill the President. However, their attempt fails, and the CIA not only has to cover up that the assassination attempt happened, but the existence of the unicorn dimension. The discovery of said dimension will be The Event.

...Hey, makes as much sense as some of the other crap I've heard.

[[WMG: The captives are from an alternate dimension where America doesn't exist.]]
The plane disappearing, and "The Event", are part of a plot by the people of the other dimension, which has advanced technology that can zap things across time and space. This is also why the captives are not Americans but have seemingly American accents. Alternately, all of the above but change "alternate dimension" to "possible future timeline". Either of these would also explain why their DNA is slightly different from that of normal humans.



[[WMG: The plane was transported to crash on an island, marooning everyone aboard.]]
Because it wasn't obvious enough that ''TheEvent'' is trying to be the next ''{{Lost}}''.

[[WMG: The Event is in the same 'verse as ''Series/{{Heroes}}'' or is set in an alternate dimension where ''Heroes'' would have taken place.]]
Think about it...

[[WMG: The dead bodies at the end of episode two aren't dead.]]
Thomas said he would use them some how, so maybe they're in some previously undiscovered state that to modern medicine appears to be dead.
* Or he stole their minds but left the bodies behind. Point is, they're not dead.
* Confirmed at the very end of episode three.

[[WMG: The alien technology is [[PoweredByAForsakenChild powered by human souls]].]]
Which is why they killed everyone on the plane.
* Except they weren't killed.



[[WMG: Michael is an alien sleeper agent, and his daughters Leila and Samantha are {{Half Human Hybrid}}s.]]
It's known that the government is hunting for alien sleepers outside of containment, and Michael and his daughters have all been targeted for kidnapping. In the absence of any other conspiracies (that we know of), this is the only plausible reason why would they would have been kidnapped.

Also, Michael's wife Valerie is killed by the people sent into his home, while he and Samantha were taken (relatively) unharmed. Valerie is a normal human who either a) didn't know about her husband's alien nature, and was killed because they didn't want her telling the cops about the kidnapping, or b) ''did'' know that her husband was an alien, and was killed because [[HeKnowsTooMuch she knew too much]].
* {{Jossed}} in episode six, where we find out that he was an airline pilot who, while on a flight to Anchorage, Alaska, flew over the Inoshanka facility after reading about it in an article Madeline wrote. They kidnapped him in order to silence him, and also kidnapped his two daughters in order to get him to comply. Still doesn't explain why they killed his wife, though... nor does it explain anything about that room Samantha's being led into in the episode seven preview.
** Not-So-{{Jossed}}, now, given the last episode. In fact, sort of ''confirmed'', considering the parallels that have been drawn.
*** An alien yes but probably not part of Thomas' faction, more likely someone who tried to drop out and make a normal life for himself like Lee did in the Fifties.

[[WMG: TVTropes is The Event.]]
* It all makes sense.. think about it.

[[WMG: Thomas converted all the people on the plane into... whatever the detainees are.]]

[[WMG: The captives were government employees]]
* I've only seen the first episode, and only caught enough bits of the second episode to know that they've been held for over 60 years, so if something's happened in the meantime, let me know. I bet that they were low-level workers on a experimental government project that went horribly wrong (possibly one involving crashed alien technology). They were hit by the experimental/alien energy released by the accident, and the government locked them up for observation and to prevent them from revealing the project/accident. The energy release altered their DNA, artificially prolonging their lives, probably in addition to as-yet-unrevealed (to the audience, possibly also to the CIA) abilities.



[[WMG: The plane passengers were injected with nanobots.]]
The nanobots are under control of the villain guy who threatened the president, and he's using them to hold the passengers as hostages. The machines were able kill and then revive the passengers (or just put them in a death-like state), and can be ordered to attack their bodies (which is what caused the bleeding).



[[WMG: They're Time Lords who escaped the Time War.]]
* They don't age, at least not enough to notice.
* They're ''clever''.
* They have a superiority complex and egos a mile high, even the "good" ones.
* They have some sort of regenerative biochemistry which bad guys want to exploit.
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[[WMG: They're Time Lords who escaped the Time War.]]
* They don't age, at least not enough to notice.
* They're ''clever''.
* They have a superiority complex and egos a mile high, even the "good" ones.
* They have some sort of regenerative biochemistry which bad guys want to exploit.
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*** An alien yes but probably not part of Thomas' faction, more likely someone who tried to drop out and make a normal life for himself like Lee did in the Fifties.
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** Not-So-{{Jossed}}, now, given the last episode. In fact, sort of ''confirmed'', considering the parallels that have been drawn.
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[[WMG: Sophia has slight-mind control abilities over her people.]]
Sophia managed to get Isabelle to confess almost immediately, and Isabelle would, under normal circumstances, probably try to deny everything. But instead she does everything Sophia says, albeit tearfully. It could be genetic, with Thomas and Sophia being a Queen-type caste of the species, and Thomas has similar abilities (although Sophia's are more powerful). Isabelle said that if Thomas killed Sophia, the aliens would follow him, but they do still admire Sophia as a leader no matter what.
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[[WMG: Raymond is the Devil and the "aliens" are actually Fallen Angels trying to get back into Heaven]]

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[[WMG: Raymond Dempsey is the Devil and the "aliens" are actually Fallen Angels trying to get back into Heaven]]

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