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16th Aug '13 9:42:46 PM RampantBadassery
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The most glaring example is the frequent references to ivy throughout the album. There are lots of allusions to nature, and some bits about Portland (Meloy lives there with his wife and son). There are more if you give it a good listen. The parallels might have been unplanned, but it's fun to think it was intentional.

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The most glaring example is examples are the frequent references to ivy throughout the album. There are lots of allusions to nature, and some bits about Portland (Meloy lives there with his wife and son). There are more if you give it a good listen. The parallels might have been unplanned, but it's fun to think it was intentional.
16th Aug '13 9:40:19 PM RampantBadassery
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Both songs describe figures that can't figure their lives out, or have a longing desire for something more. Seems similar, but not connected, until you learn the chords - "Here I Dreamt I was an Architect" has two distinct chords that go with the riff, and "The Engine Driver" starts with the exact same two chords.

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Both songs describe figures that can't figure their lives out, or have a longing desire for something more. Seems similar, but not connected, until you learn the chords - "Here I Dreamt I was an Architect" has two distinct chords that go with the riff, and "The Engine Driver" starts with the exact same two chords.chords.

[[WMG: Lyrics from The King Is Dead contain passing shout outs to Wildwood.]]
The most glaring example is the frequent references to ivy throughout the album. There are lots of allusions to nature, and some bits about Portland (Meloy lives there with his wife and son). There are more if you give it a good listen. The parallels might have been unplanned, but it's fun to think it was intentional.
12th Jun '13 11:49:36 PM vifetoile
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* Or she was freaked out when she first met William and learned what he was, and the world he belonged to, but nine months later she's cool with it. Or she lives in a human settlement where they have long accepted (and feared) the magic and creatures of the forest.
7th Jun '12 11:14:07 AM chelonianmobile
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* [[http://archiveofourown.org/series/6867 There is fanfic.]] And it's awesome.
24th Mar '12 8:02:02 PM jalego
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Every time they're reborn, they lose their relationship for some reason and keep coming back - "and try one, and try two/ I guess it all comes down to / Alright, okay".

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Every time they're reborn, they lose their relationship for some reason and keep coming back - "and try one, and try two/ I guess it all comes down to / Alright, okay".okay".

[[WMG: The Architect and the Engine Driver are the same people.]]
Both songs describe figures that can't figure their lives out, or have a longing desire for something more. Seems similar, but not connected, until you learn the chords - "Here I Dreamt I was an Architect" has two distinct chords that go with the riff, and "The Engine Driver" starts with the exact same two chords.
12th Oct '11 11:52:41 PM PaulA
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[[WMG: ''The Mariner's Revenge Song'' is in the same universe as ''SweeneyTodd''.]]

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[[WMG: ''The Mariner's Revenge Song'' is in the same universe as ''SweeneyTodd''.''Theatre/SweeneyToddTheDemonBarberOfFleetStreet''.]]
2nd Oct '11 12:44:18 PM chelonianmobile
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It was a massive effort to get the contents of a safe. But they disguised it by kidnapping a businessman's daughter and threatening to assassinate the businessman. While law enforcement was busy dealing with the hostage situation, they robbed the bank. They still got caught, though, if the lyrics are anything to go by.

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It was a massive effort to get the contents of a safe. But they disguised it by kidnapping a businessman's daughter and threatening to assassinate the businessman. While law enforcement was busy dealing with the hostage situation, they robbed the bank. They still got caught, though, if the lyrics are anything to go by.by.

[[WMG: "Here I Dreamt I Was An Architect" is about a couple who are repeatedly reincarnated.]]
Every time they're reborn, they lose their relationship for some reason and keep coming back - "and try one, and try two/ I guess it all comes down to / Alright, okay".
3rd Jul '11 5:14:08 PM MegTheMaggot
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So here's my WMG - William gives up and doesn't try to escape the fortress and the water not just because he's got a code of honor that won't let him renege on the promise that he made in "Annan Water," but also because his beloved and their gestating child are both dead. He's made an enemy of his own mother, and his beloved Margaret is dead, taking with her their hope for a family. He's lost the will to fight anymore. "The Drowned" is William trying to get her to wake up by calling her name, trying to get her to respond. He realizes that she's not going to wake up and he's going to die sometime around when he suggests that they declare themselves married there. The times when we hear Margaret's voice alongside William's is easily explained as her spirit still lingering because he's going to die soon, and him slowly drowning and losing his grip on the mortal world (and sanity).

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So here's my WMG - William gives up and doesn't try to escape the fortress and the water not just because he's got a code of honor that won't let him renege on the promise that he made in "Annan Water," but also because his beloved and their gestating child are both dead. He's made an enemy of his own mother, and his beloved Margaret is dead, taking with her their hope for a family. He's lost the will to fight anymore. "The Drowned" is William trying to get her to wake up by calling her name, trying to get her to respond. He realizes that she's not going to wake up and he's going to die sometime around when he suggests that they declare themselves married there. The times when we hear Margaret's voice alongside William's is easily explained as her spirit still lingering because he's going to die soon, and him slowly drowning and losing his grip on the mortal world (and sanity).sanity).

[[WMG: The crime in "The Perfect Crime" was an elaborate bank heist.]]
It was a massive effort to get the contents of a safe. But they disguised it by kidnapping a businessman's daughter and threatening to assassinate the businessman. While law enforcement was busy dealing with the hostage situation, they robbed the bank. They still got caught, though, if the lyrics are anything to go by.
28th May '11 6:02:37 PM Cogs
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The narrator is callous, handsome, and deluded. He would rather believe that he's in a tragic love affair with a lower class girl than admit that he's a crazy rapist. Now the girl's pregnant, and he's going to push her off a cliff and scarper. He'll do it romantically, of course. (The baby is Leslie Anne Levine, but that's another story.)

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The narrator is callous, handsome, and deluded. He would rather believe that he's in a tragic love affair with a lower class girl than admit that he's a crazy rapist. Now the girl's pregnant, and he's going to push her off a cliff and scarper. He'll do it romantically, of course. (The baby is Leslie Anne Levine, but that's another story.))

[[WMG: The Rake actually killed Margaret before William/his dead children got to him.]]
Now, I'm only going by the album version here, as I've never seen it. But in the last two songs, we only hear Margaret's voice either alongside William's, or as a wail in the background. You'd think that, if she were still alive, she would have something to say during "The Drowned," at least. There are other lines, like "painting rings around your eyes" that make it seem like he's watching her while she's lying still. Too still.

So here's my WMG - William gives up and doesn't try to escape the fortress and the water not just because he's got a code of honor that won't let him renege on the promise that he made in "Annan Water," but also because his beloved and their gestating child are both dead. He's made an enemy of his own mother, and his beloved Margaret is dead, taking with her their hope for a family. He's lost the will to fight anymore. "The Drowned" is William trying to get her to wake up by calling her name, trying to get her to respond. He realizes that she's not going to wake up and he's going to die sometime around when he suggests that they declare themselves married there. The times when we hear Margaret's voice alongside William's is easily explained as her spirit still lingering because he's going to die soon, and him slowly drowning and losing his grip on the mortal world (and sanity).
22nd May '11 6:58:30 PM bluepenguin
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The bride on the cover of the album is wearing Manchu-style clothing whereas the groom is wearing a [[{{Salaryman}} business suit]], which, applying the recent history between the two countries, is apt. The crane referred to is most likely a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-crowned_Crane red-crowned crane]], which migrates between the two countries. Oh, and her wedding dress is ''white'' with a ''red'' splotch where the arrow struck her.

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The bride on the cover of the album is wearing Manchu-style clothing whereas the groom is wearing a [[{{Salaryman}} business suit]], which, applying the recent history between the two countries, is apt. The crane referred to is most likely a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-crowned_Crane red-crowned crane]], which migrates between the two countries. Oh, and her wedding dress is ''white'' with a ''red'' splotch where the arrow struck her.her.

[[WMG: The whale from The Decemberist's "The Mariner's Revenge Song" is the ghost of the protagonist's mother]]
The protagonist mentions hearing her after her death; the whale appears after the protagonist hears her and gives her son a chance at taking revenge into his own hands.

[[WMG: The narrator of The Decembrist's "The Mariner's Revenge Song" is on the ''Pequod'' and chasing Moby Dick.]]
The ship does go down. Along the way, Queequeg nearly dies and orders a coffin to be made by the ship's carpenter, which he then decorates with carvings of his own design. After the ship breaks up, the narrator finds it floating and uses it like a canoe. (Oh, and Ahab harpoons himself to the whale.)

[[WMG: The narrator of "We Both Go Down Together" by the Decemberists is the 'lad of eighteen' from "The Mariner's Revenge Song"]]
The narrator is callous, handsome, and deluded. He would rather believe that he's in a tragic love affair with a lower class girl than admit that he's a crazy rapist. Now the girl's pregnant, and he's going to push her off a cliff and scarper. He'll do it romantically, of course. (The baby is Leslie Anne Levine, but that's another story.)
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