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19th Oct '15 11:36:21 PM heretoeditisall
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*** Aside from it being well-known that Andy Griffith wanted black actors on the show but was overruled by angry southern stations, he was also well aware that Jim Nabors was gay. If not for southern stations he'd have had more diversity in the cast.
26th May '15 10:16:17 AM erforce
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And like his alternate universe counterpart in TheTwilightZone episode "Walking Distance", he came back as an adult to visit Mayberry again. After having a piece of Aunt Bea's pie, and a down-home chat from Andy, he decided to move on with his life and went back to the future. (No, not [[Film/BackToTheFuture that future.]])

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And like his alternate universe counterpart in TheTwilightZone episode "Walking Distance", he came back as an adult to visit Mayberry again. After having a piece of Aunt Bea's pie, and a down-home chat from Andy, he decided to move on with his life and went back to the future. (No, not [[Film/BackToTheFuture [[Franchise/BackToTheFuture that future.]])
5th Dec '14 4:45:08 PM livestockgeorge
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*** There's also a ton Of African-American Extras in the background since the show's very frist episode

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*** There's also a ton Of African-American Extras in the background since the show's very frist first episode




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* They didn't. Barney bought a three pedal lemon once. Did about as well as my sister's first time with a clutch. I think the implication is fairly clear that the patrol cars are automatic, even more so because of that.




[[WMG: Where is Opie's mom?.]]

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\n* He also makes a chili that nearly sends Andy into a conniption.

[[WMG: Where is Opie's mom?.]]mom?]]


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[[WMG: Aint Bee is Barney's 'aint' too.]]
He always calls her that, and Andy and Barney called each-other cousins once.
31st Aug '14 11:42:29 PM Mattkind
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***There's also a ton Of African-American Extras in the background since the show's very frist episode
31st Aug '14 11:37:49 PM Mattkind
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\n** In Opie's Piano Lesson there's Flip Conroy a Former New York Jet who moves back to Mayberry So there's more then one
20th Mar '14 11:06:28 AM livestockgeorge
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* It should be noted there was one person who might, from the look of him, be biracial, white and black. He was, however, a blatantly dishonest lawyer. The episode was "Otis sues the county" or something like that. I think this guess stands, or the AU one about there not having been slavery in the U.S.

27th Feb '14 8:24:55 PM wesozier
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[[WMG: Where is Opie's mom?.]]
Right in front of us the whole time. Aint Bee is Opie's mom!! BTW this WMG also disproves the one above about Andy being gay...Aint Bee isn't his beard...she's his lover, and yes she is his biological aunt. Ewww!
13th Jan '14 4:31:23 PM Rodriguez1025
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[[WMG: Barney has no physical sense of taste or smell.]]
How else was Barney not able to tell the difference in taste between water and moonshine in the episode "Keeper of the Flame"? Water is essentially flavorless, but moonshine is strong-tasting and strong-smelling.
6th Dec '13 8:07:20 PM nlpnt
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[[WMG: The patrol cars are straight-six automatics.]]
Do you seriously think Andy would let Barney drive a high-powered interceptor, or the producers and Don Knotts would let the comedic potential of Barney [[DrivingStick attempting to drive a three-pedal car]] pass by unused?
1st Jul '13 6:22:14 PM Tarlonniel
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# There are no people of color seen in Mayberry ''at all''.
* Yes there are. Try actually watching the show.



* Or maybe it's just that it's set in Appalachia, where people did not have slaves and the black population is low. The Dillards are from "back in the hollers."
** Mayberry is an idealized version of Mount Airy, NC. Andy Griffith's home town. Because it's idealized, there is no racial strife. However, North Carolina in RealLife did see a lot less of the violence seen in the rest of the south (Mostly just sit ins and peaceful protests).
** Or maybe, like many small country towns, black people just never lived there in the first place. My hometown of 600 people and most of the surrounding area have almost no black people, without some sinister racist intent.
** It's not unheard-of for some small towns in the South to have all-white or all-black populations, although it's less common than it used to be.
* Was there ever even one black person on the show?
** There have been a small handful of black people in crowd scenes, but I don't think the show had any black people with speaking parts.
** There was at least one. In ''Opie's Piano Lesson'', Opie is the quarterback of the football team. A black man named Flip Conroy is in Mayberry. Apperantly, he's an ex-NFL star and the new football coach. Not only is he accepted in Mayberry, but he is also revered.
** The real reason though is just that southern networks would probably have been less likely to air the show if it had regular black actors on it. Executive meddling is more the case.

All signs point to an AlternateUniverse with no slavery, meaning no mass forced immigration from Africa, meaning these conditions can exist.
* The logical explanation for the divergence is that the idealistic, yet proud of his heritage, Andy went back in time to prevent slavery from coming to the United States.


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* Or maybe it's just that it's set in Appalachia, where people did not have slaves and the black population is low. The Dillards are from "back in the hollers."
** Mayberry is an idealized version of Mount Airy, NC. Andy Griffith's home town. Because it's idealized, there is no racial strife. However, North Carolina in RealLife did see a lot less of the violence seen in the rest of the south (Mostly just sit ins and peaceful protests).
** Or maybe, like many small country towns, black people just never lived there in the first place. My hometown of 600 people and most of the surrounding area have almost no black people, without some sinister racist intent.
** It's not unheard-of for some small towns in the South to have all-white or all-black populations, although it's less common than it used to be.
* Was there ever even one black person on the show?
** There have been a small handful of black people in crowd scenes, but I don't think the show had any black people with speaking parts.
** There was at least one. In ''Opie's Piano Lesson'', Opie is the quarterback of the football team. A black man named Flip Conroy is in Mayberry. Apperantly, he's an ex-NFL star and the new football coach. Not only is he accepted in Mayberry, but he is also revered.
** The real reason though is just that southern networks would probably have been less likely to air the show if it had regular black actors on it. Executive meddling is more the case.

All signs point to an AlternateUniverse with no slavery, meaning no mass forced immigration from Africa, meaning these conditions can exist.
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exist. The logical explanation for the divergence is that the idealistic, yet proud of his heritage, Andy went back in time to prevent slavery from coming to the United States.

States.



As the above Guess shows, Mayberry is a lily-white Southern town. There is no mention of people of color, segregation, or civil rights. The explanation is that the white people of Mayberry ran all of the black residents out of town. Maybe Sheriff Andy, or one of his predecessors, had them killed. There's no evidence of hate crimes because they were all committed years before - the people just don't talk about them.
* This qualifies for PoisonOakEpilepticTrees. But it's ''possible''.
** More than [[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sundown+town+site%3Adneiwert.blogspot.com&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= "possible"]]...
** Likely, if you leave out the part about Sheriff Andy personally. Most of the really ugly ethnic cleansing happened decades before he was even born, although he may have had a hand in maintaining what he inherited.

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As the above Guess shows, Mayberry is a lily-white Southern town. There is no mention of people of color, segregation, or civil rights. The explanation is that the white people of Mayberry ran all of the black residents out of town. Maybe Sheriff Andy, or one of his predecessors, had them killed. There's no evidence of hate crimes because they were all committed years before - the people just don't talk about them.
* This qualifies for PoisonOakEpilepticTrees. But it's ''possible''.
** More than [[http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sundown+town+site%3Adneiwert.blogspot.com&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq= "possible"]]...
** Likely, if you leave out the part about Sheriff Andy personally. Most of the really ugly ethnic cleansing happened decades before he was even born,
them, although he Andy may have had a hand in maintaining what he inherited.



Anyone else notice how incredibly similar the two shows are? In both shows, Andy Griffith plays a down-home hick in a Southern city with some pull in the legal system.

Clearly, Andy Taylor eventually got tired of being sheriff and wanted to move on to bigger and better things. So he moved to the big city (Atlanta), changed his name to Ben Matlock, went to law school, and eventually passed the bar in Georgia.

Matlock does say in one special that he grew up in a small town in North Carolina -- that is implied not to exist anymore. So we have motive.

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* Anyone else notice how incredibly similar the two shows are? In both shows, Andy Griffith plays a down-home hick in a Southern city with some pull in the legal system.

system. Clearly, Andy Taylor eventually got tired of being sheriff and wanted to move on to bigger and better things. So he moved to the big city (Atlanta), changed his name to Ben Matlock, went to law school, and eventually passed the bar in Georgia.

Georgia. Matlock does say in one special that he grew up in a small town in North Carolina -- that is implied not to exist anymore. So we have motive.



At the end of ''Film/AFaceInTheCrowd'', "Lonesome" Rhodes suffers a breakdown as his fame collapses and he swears to win the public's love again. Unsure of where to begin, then, perhaps he decides to start from scratch in another Southern small-town jail - but this time, on the other side of the bars. He changes his name to Andy Taylor, adopts the same down-home good-natured facade that made him popular in the first place, and tries to jump straight into politics by running for sheriff. Because this takes so long to accomplish he finds himself settling down in the town for good. Eventually he [[BecomingTheMask pretends to be a decent person for so long that he actually becomes one]], and he blissfully forgets that he ever was the fallen megastar Lonesome Rhodes.
* He may have done this remembering that Marsha was practically engaged to Sheriff Bess until he came along.

[[WMG:Andy is either a closeted gay, bi or perhaps, asexual.]]
* Let see the evidence: The most eligible bachelor in a small Southern town and yet he only dates two women and then only in the most chaste manner possible. He makes no effort to remarry to provide a "mother" for his son and moves his spinster aunt in w/ them to give him a "beard."
He spends an inordinate amount of time in the company of men and seems to be visibly uncomfortable around women that express affection of any kind towards him.

Given that the show is set in a time where only children were rare and given that Andy didn't quickly remarry after his wife's demise one can reasonable assume that women hold only minimal or no interest at all for Sheriff Taylor,making him asexual,bisexual or even gay.

Let's not even bring up Barney Fife....
* Barney uses women as his own beard. He's something of a codependent who needs women to make him feel masculine.
* Or he could be, just, you know, missing his dead wife? I know, crazy idea...
* It is a crazy idea. Barney didn't have a dead wife. Andy is the one who had the dead wife.
** I was talking about Andy.
* Harlan Ellison once called Don Knotts "the ultimate morphodite (bi-gendered) nebbish".

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At the end of ''Film/AFaceInTheCrowd'', "Lonesome" Rhodes suffers a breakdown as his fame collapses and he swears to win the public's love again. Unsure of where to begin, then, perhaps he decides to start from scratch in another Southern small-town jail - but this time, on the other side of the bars. He changes his name to Andy Taylor, adopts the same down-home good-natured facade that made him popular in the first place, and tries to jump straight into politics by running for sheriff. Because this takes so long to accomplish he finds himself settling down in the town for good. Eventually he [[BecomingTheMask pretends to be a decent person for so long that he actually becomes one]], and he blissfully forgets that he ever was the fallen megastar Lonesome Rhodes.
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Rhodes. He may have done this remembering that Marsha was practically engaged to Sheriff Bess until he came along.

[[WMG:Andy is and Barney are either a closeted gay, bi gays, bisexuals or perhaps, asexual.asexuals.]]
* Let see the evidence: The most eligible bachelor in a small Southern town and yet he only dates two women and then only in the most chaste manner possible. He makes no effort to remarry to provide a "mother" for his son and moves his spinster aunt in w/ them to give him a "beard."
" He spends an inordinate amount of time in the company of men and seems to be visibly uncomfortable around women that express affection of any kind towards him.

him. Given that the show is set in a time where only children were rare and given that Andy didn't quickly remarry after his wife's demise one can reasonable assume that women hold only minimal or no interest at all for Sheriff Taylor,making him asexual,bisexual or even gay.

Let's not even bring up Barney Fife....
gay.
* Barney uses women as his own beard. He's something of a codependent who needs women to make him feel masculine. \n* Or he could be, just, you know, missing his dead wife? I know, crazy idea...\n* It is a crazy idea. Barney didn't have a dead wife. Andy is the one who had the dead wife. \n** I was talking about Andy.\n* After all, Harlan Ellison once called Don Knotts "the ultimate morphodite (bi-gendered) nebbish".



He's just {{obfuscating stupidity}}.
* People do seem to tip-toe around him to keep from hurting his feelings or upsetting him.
* Andy goes to great lengths to make Barney happy.
** More likely, Andy sees Barney's potential and goes about keeping him happy/content with his job as deputy since he fears Barney might harm himself if he forced to see how pathetic he is. The townspeople go along with this, largely because they know Andy and Barney are best friends and moreso, know that Andy will keep Barney in check so things don't go out of control.

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He's just {{obfuscating stupidity}}. \n* People do seem to tip-toe around him to keep from hurting his feelings or upsetting him.
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him and Andy goes to great lengths to make Barney happy.
** More likely,
happy. Andy sees Barney's potential and goes about keeping him happy/content with his job as deputy since he fears Barney might harm himself if he he's forced to see how pathetic he is. The townspeople go along with this, largely because they know Andy and Barney are best friends and moreso, know that Andy will keep Barney in check so things don't go out of control.
control.
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