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25th May '13 8:08:30 AM nabber
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** And in ''Day of Doom'', [[spoiler: Natalie Kabra and Evan Tolliver]] are killed on the side of the heroes. [[spoiler: Both Isabel Kabra and Damien Vesper]] die on the villains' side.

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** And in In ''Day of Doom'', [[spoiler: Natalie Kabra and Evan Tolliver]] are killed on the side of the heroes. [[spoiler: Both Isabel Kabra and Damien Vesper]] die on the villains' side.
side, but other characters survive, so this theory has been {{Jossed}} again, but...
* This could still happen in the third series. The second series was DarkerAndEdgier than the first, and the authors are probably going to want to raise the stakes even further for the new one.
5th Mar '13 2:21:56 PM anonymousangel
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** As of Trust No One, [[spoiler: Alistair Oh]] has been KilledOffForReal, so it certainly is possible.

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** As of Trust ''Trust No One, One'', [[spoiler: Alistair Oh]] has been KilledOffForReal, so it certainly is possible.
** And in ''Day of Doom'', [[spoiler: Natalie Kabra and Evan Tolliver]] are killed on the side of the heroes. [[spoiler: Both Isabel Kabra and Damien Vesper]] die on the villains' side.




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* Evan is not turned to the dark side. [[spoiler: He's actually killed in ''Day of Doom'' while fighting alongside the Cahills.]]




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** [[spoiler: Arthur is not V1; the texts from "AJT" were actually from Isabel Kabra, Vesper Two.]]




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** Jossed. Actually, [[spoiler: Evan is killed, and for now, she is with Jake.]]




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** Jossed. [[spoiler: He is dead for real.]]



And because of V1's statement at the end of ''The Medusa Plot'' that he has had "many aliases", for all we know, any ''number'' of minor characters could be V1.

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And because of V1's statement at the end of ''The Medusa Plot'' that he has had "many aliases", for all we know, any ''number'' of minor characters could be V1.V1.
** The "AJT" texts were actually [[spoiler: sent by Isabel]].
24th Jan '13 2:10:43 PM anonymousangel
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** In Trust No One, it's hinted at that [[spoiler: Dave Speminer truly is Vesper One]], although by that time, there has been a code in one of the books that states that [[spoiler: Arthur Trent really is dead]].

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** In Trust No One, it's hinted at that [[spoiler: Dave Speminer truly is Vesper One]], although by that time, there has been a code in one of the books that states that [[spoiler: Arthur Trent really "the father is dead]].
dead," which may or may not be referring to Arthur]].
6th Dec '12 4:10:26 PM anonymousangel
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** In Trust No One, it's hinted at that [[spoiler: Dave Speminer truly is Vesper One]], although by that time, there has been a code in one of the books that states that [[spoiler: Arthur Trent really is dead]].
6th Dec '12 4:08:34 PM anonymousangel
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** As of Trust No One, [[spoiler: Alistair Oh]] has been KilledOffForReal, so it certainly is possible.
5th Dec '12 4:28:10 AM ilikestrakk
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** [[spoiler: Proven true. Cahills vs. Vespers Mission 4 reveals that Sinead is indeed Vesper 3, the Mole.]]

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** [[spoiler: Proven true. Cahills vs. Vespers Mission 4 reveals that Sinead is indeed Vesper 3, the Mole.]]]]

[[WMG: Vesper One is Damien Vesper, and Dave Speminer and Arthur Trent are aliases.]]
*There is actually some evidence to this. A code in ''The Medusa Plot'' says "Damien is alive", one in ''Trust No One'' says simply, "Damien Vesper", and of course, Dave Speminer is an anagram of his name, and it's virtually confirmed in ''Rapid Files'' that [[spoiler: Vesper One poisioned Astrid Rosenbloom personally. And Dave was a close friend.]] I don't think that Arthur Trent himself was V1, I just think V1 posed as him at one point. [[spoiler: One phrase on the cards' "star map" says "Arthur Trent is dead", and a code in ''Trust No One'' says "The father is dead", so it's heavily implied that AJT's messages are a {{Red Herring}}.]]
And because of V1's statement at the end of ''The Medusa Plot'' that he has had "many aliases", for all we know, any ''number'' of minor characters could be V1.
5th Dec '12 4:18:10 AM ilikestrakk
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*{{Jossed}}. [[spoiler: He ''is'' a suspect, but Mission 5 reveals Vesper Two to be Isabel Kabra.]]




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*Proven true. [[spoiler: In fact, Mission 5 reveals her to be Vesper Two, The Shield.]]
5th Sep '12 2:27:56 PM anonymousangel
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** [[spoiler: Proven true. Cahills vs. Vespers Mission 4 reveals that Sinead is indeed Vesper 3, the Mole.]]
14th Aug '12 3:49:30 PM Koraki
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* Now that the second series is up and running, I'd like to resurrect this WMG and apply it to that. Sure, it's not probable given the target age group, but it's certainly ''possible''.




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* This is really popular fanon, and I for one support this theory.
14th Aug '12 3:46:51 PM Koraki
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* It's been implied that the Vespers' goal is time travel and that Arthur is alive. If both are true, Arthur may have been hiding all this time and aiding the Vespers in order to gain the means to go back in time and save Hope. It would explain why the person claiming to be him says that "What appears to be cruelty is kindness," because if Hope doesn't die, a lot of his childrens' pain would be erased, so to him, the bad stuff the Vespers do would be more than justified.

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* It's been implied that the Vespers' goal is time travel and that Arthur is alive. If both are true, Arthur may have been hiding all this time and aiding the Vespers in order to gain the means to go back in time and save Hope. It would explain why the person claiming to be him says that "What appears to be cruelty is kindness," because if Hope doesn't die, a lot of his childrens' pain would be erased, so to him, the bad stuff the Vespers do would be more than justified.justified.

[[WMG: Sinead Starling is Vesper 3.]]
* As the fandom has discovered over the past few weeks, the cover of the ''Trust No One'' audiobook advertises a bonus scene wherein [[spoiler: Sinead is forced to prove her loyalty to the Vespers.]] This means that Sinead is definitely a prime candidate for the position, especially since it's doubtful that Evan or Ian is Vesper 3 (both have had point-of-view chapters that clearly showed that neither one of them was involved with the Vespers). Add the aforementioned spoiler to the fact that Sinead seems to be ''very'' bent on persuading Amy that Ian is the Vesper mole, and you get some rather solid evidence that points to this possibility.
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