History WMG / Terminator

6th Apr '17 9:02:12 PM CB2001
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The first Terminator is set in 1984, and the second Terminator is said to take place in 1995, when John would be 10 years old. His profile that the T-1000 looks at confirms this. However, in Terminator 3, John says he was 13 when the events of Terminator 2 occurred. He also says that his mother died 3 years after Terminator 2, but her grave gives her date of death as 1997, which would mean that Terminator 2 took place in 1994. In this timeline then, the events of The Terminator took place in 1980 instead of 1984, John was born in 1981, and the events of Terminator 2 took place in 1994, when he was 13.

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The first Terminator is set in 1984, and the second Terminator is said to take place in 1995, when John would be 10 years old. His profile that the T-1000 looks at confirms this. However, in Terminator 3, John says he was 13 when the events of Terminator 2 occurred. He also says that his mother died 3 years after Terminator 2, but her grave gives her date of death as 1997, which would mean that Terminator 2 took place in 1994. In this timeline then, the events of The Terminator took place in 1980 instead of 1984, John was born in 1981, and the events of Terminator 2 took place in 1994, when he was 13.13.

[[WMG: The T-1000 was sent back first, not the T-800.]]
Not many people put thought in this, seeing the first film and then the second one, believing in the continuity that the T-800 was sent back first. However, no one has put this thought out, especially when you look at the first two films alone: why did Skynet send the T-1000 to kill John Connor as a child, when it could have sent it to 1984 and kill Sarah Connor instead?

This troper has a hypothesis about this: Skynet had intended to send the T-1000 to go after John because it knew by sending it to when John was a child, it could find additional info (as we see the T-1000 use the police terminal at the start of the film). So, it sent its advanced prototype after John as a kid and waiting to see if the changes occurred. When nothing changed, it surmised that the T-1000 somehow failed in it's mission and then decided to send a T-800 to 1984 in hopes of trying to kill John's mother instead. Of course, at that time, the Resistance attacked and then discovered the time displacement equipment after the T-800 was sent through. John, recalling what his mother told him and giving Reese the photo, sends Reese knowing he would volunteer. After Reese leaves, being told that they would destroy the equipment afterwards, John reprogram the 'Uncle Bob' Terminator to be sent to when he was a child. So, basically, the T-1000 was sent first and the T-800 sent to 1984 was a Plan B.
2nd Jan '17 5:45:08 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Skynet is GLaDOS]]

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[[WMG: Skynet is GLaDOS]][=GLaDOS=]]]



In the Sprawl 'verse, Skynet was stopped not at the "committing a worldwide Holocaust against humanity" stage, but at the "wiping out a research facility with nerve gas" stage (not unlike GLaDOS from VideoGame/{{Portal}}). People got very, very, very afraid, that some AI might manage to move on to the "destroy humanity" stage and established the Turing Agency (an international police force to persecute people, who try making AIs smarter than the law allows, backed by the UN with jurisdiction on EVERYWHERE on Earth. Yes, people were afraid enough of [[AIIsACrapshoot a homicidal AI]] to give them that kind of powers), the Turing Registry (every AI smarter than one's intestinal bacteria, hyperbolically speaking, has to be registered and given a unique designation) and very strict laws governing the creation, deployment and use of AIs (every AI has tons of mandated safeguards to make it impossible to get smarter than the law allows, up to a electromagnetic bomb attached to it's hardware, which'll go kaboom, if it tries any funny business. Making AIs smarter than they're allowed to be was made into a crime against humanity with very hefty prison sentences or in certain severe cases even the death penalty).

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In the Sprawl 'verse, Skynet was stopped not at the "committing a worldwide Holocaust against humanity" stage, but at the "wiping out a research facility with nerve gas" stage (not unlike GLaDOS [=GLaDOS=] from VideoGame/{{Portal}}). People got very, very, very afraid, that some AI might manage to move on to the "destroy humanity" stage and established the Turing Agency (an international police force to persecute people, who try making AIs smarter than the law allows, backed by the UN with jurisdiction on EVERYWHERE on Earth. Yes, people were afraid enough of [[AIIsACrapshoot a homicidal AI]] to give them that kind of powers), the Turing Registry (every AI smarter than one's intestinal bacteria, hyperbolically speaking, has to be registered and given a unique designation) and very strict laws governing the creation, deployment and use of AIs (every AI has tons of mandated safeguards to make it impossible to get smarter than the law allows, up to a electromagnetic bomb attached to it's hardware, which'll go kaboom, if it tries any funny business. Making AIs smarter than they're allowed to be was made into a crime against humanity with very hefty prison sentences or in certain severe cases even the death penalty).
9th Dec '16 2:39:44 AM Morgenthaler
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Skynet intentionally designed them to look like a soldier with a {{badass}} reputation to make it easier for them to infiltrate the resistance. Seriously,if you were fighting a war against literal death-machines and a man with a reputation for overthrowing dictators' regimes shows up, then wouldn't you let him join in the fight?

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Skynet intentionally designed them to look like a soldier with a {{badass}} badass reputation to make it easier for them to infiltrate the resistance. Seriously,if you were fighting a war against literal death-machines and a man with a reputation for overthrowing dictators' regimes shows up, then wouldn't you let him join in the fight?
26th Sep '16 7:44:44 AM Umbethi
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[[Terminator 3 is set in an alternate timeline from the first two]]

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[[Terminator [[WMG: Terminator 3 is set in an alternate timeline from the first two]]
26th Sep '16 7:44:12 AM Umbethi
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Specifically realities in which the events of ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' didn't occur. In this reality, Cyberdyne systems didn't fully recover and was acquired by the Weyland Corporation sometime in 2012, rebranded as its artificial intelligence division. Weyland Corporation then scrapped plans for Skynet and focused its research on humanoid androids. This division would produce androids such as [[Film/{{Prometheus}} David]], [[Film/{{Alien}} Ash]], [[Film/{{Aliens}} Bishop]], and [[Film/AlienResurrection Call]] as sort of a spiritual successor of the original Terminator. John Connor in this timeline would father the ancestors of Ellen Ripley, making Ripley one of Sarah Connor's descendants.

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Specifically realities in which the events of ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' didn't occur. In this reality, Cyberdyne systems didn't fully recover and was acquired by the Weyland Corporation sometime in 2012, rebranded as its artificial intelligence division. Weyland Corporation then scrapped plans for Skynet and focused its research on humanoid androids. This division would produce androids such as [[Film/{{Prometheus}} David]], [[Film/{{Alien}} Ash]], [[Film/{{Aliens}} Bishop]], and [[Film/AlienResurrection Call]] as sort of a spiritual successor of the original Terminator. John Connor in this timeline would father the ancestors of Ellen Ripley, making Ripley one of Sarah Connor's descendants.descendants.

[[Terminator 3 is set in an alternate timeline from the first two]]

The first Terminator is set in 1984, and the second Terminator is said to take place in 1995, when John would be 10 years old. His profile that the T-1000 looks at confirms this. However, in Terminator 3, John says he was 13 when the events of Terminator 2 occurred. He also says that his mother died 3 years after Terminator 2, but her grave gives her date of death as 1997, which would mean that Terminator 2 took place in 1994. In this timeline then, the events of The Terminator took place in 1980 instead of 1984, John was born in 1981, and the events of Terminator 2 took place in 1994, when he was 13.
23rd Aug '16 12:32:36 AM harlbior
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23rd Aug '16 12:09:16 AM harlbior
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[[WMG: The ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'' series takes place in a parallel universe in which Cyberdyne Systems was bought out by the Weyland Corperation]]

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[[WMG: The ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'' series takes place in a parallel universe in which Cyberdyne Systems was bought out by the Weyland Corperation]]
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23rd Aug '16 12:08:31 AM harlbior
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The action of ''Terminator 2'' occured in and around Los Angeles in the early 90s. The action of Wayne's World took place in and around Chicago at roughly the same time. Skynet must have been dispatching T-1000's to all major US cities because it had no clue as to John Connor's location in spacetime. This would mean not only that Skynet was unaware in which city John Connor would be located, but that a team of T-1000s was unable to track down and kill both an awkward teenager and a single lesser model Terminator unit.

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The action of ''Terminator 2'' occured in and around Los Angeles in the early 90s. The action of Wayne's World took place in and around Chicago at roughly the same time. Skynet must have been dispatching T-1000's to all major US cities because it had no clue as to John Connor's location in spacetime. This would mean not only that Skynet was unaware in which city John Connor would be located, but that a team of T-1000s was unable to track down and kill both an awkward teenager and a single lesser model Terminator unit.unit.

[[WMG: The ''Franchise/{{Alien}}'' series takes place in a parallel universe in which Cyberdyne Systems was bought out by the Weyland Corperation]]

Specifically realities in which the events of ''Film/Terminator3RiseOfTheMachines'' didn't occur. In this reality, Cyberdyne systems didn't fully recover and was acquired by the Weyland Corporation sometime in 2012, rebranded as its artificial intelligence division. Weyland Corporation then scrapped plans for Skynet and focused its research on humanoid androids. This division would produce androids such as [[Film/{{Prometheus}} David]], [[Film/{{Alien}} Ash]], [[Film/{{Aliens}} Bishop]], and [[Film/AlienResurrection Call]] as sort of a spiritual successor of the original Terminator. John Connor in this timeline would father the ancestors of Ellen Ripley, making Ripley one of Sarah Connor's descendants.
30th May '16 6:42:45 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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*** [[{{Seinfeld}} Hello, Neuman]].

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*** [[{{Seinfeld}} [[Series/{{Seinfeld}} Hello, Neuman]].
9th May '16 10:07:45 PM erforce
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Of humanity and technology, respectively. Regardless of what other changes are made to the timeline, these two will use whatever is there to manifest themselves and do battle across space and time. Skynet doesn't have to be built by Cyberdyne, or anyone in particular for that matter. Whatever smart AI system is created will inevitably evolve into Skynet in time. Similarly, John Connor doesn't have to be Kyle Reese's son. He doesn't necessarily even have to be ''Sarah Connor's'' son, most likely. If the Terminator ''had'' been successful in the first movie, he probably would have just been born to some other Sarah Connor in a different part of the country or world, or maybe not even to a Connor at all, but would simply have used that name because he heard it as a legend, closing the inevitable StableTimeLoop. This {{WMG}} is pushed even closer to canonicity by Rise of the Machines and then [[TheSarahConnorChronicles Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles]], by such elements as hinting that The Turk might have possibly become Skynet.

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Of humanity and technology, respectively. Regardless of what other changes are made to the timeline, these two will use whatever is there to manifest themselves and do battle across space and time. Skynet doesn't have to be built by Cyberdyne, or anyone in particular for that matter. Whatever smart AI system is created will inevitably evolve into Skynet in time. Similarly, John Connor doesn't have to be Kyle Reese's son. He doesn't necessarily even have to be ''Sarah Connor's'' son, most likely. If the Terminator ''had'' been successful in the first movie, he probably would have just been born to some other Sarah Connor in a different part of the country or world, or maybe not even to a Connor at all, but would simply have used that name because he heard it as a legend, closing the inevitable StableTimeLoop. This {{WMG}} is pushed even closer to canonicity by Rise of the Machines and then [[TheSarahConnorChronicles [[Series/TerminatorTheSarahConnorChronicles Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles]], by such elements as hinting that The Turk might have possibly become Skynet.



[[WMG: The Skynet from ''T2'' was a [[BillAndTedsExcellentAdventure Bill and Ted gambit]] of future John Connor.]]

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[[WMG: The Skynet from ''T2'' was a [[BillAndTedsExcellentAdventure [[Film/BillAndTedsExcellentAdventure Bill and Ted gambit]] of future John Connor.]]



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