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20th Jun '16 8:23:44 PM Homemaderat
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* It could be possible the alien DNA that infected Patrick is a flawed mutation in itself. Whether by any other dna or just by it's own species. The team in the first movie kills the pure alien creature before much could be learned about it. But it seems strange that what they found on Mars would impregnate a human female and inject it's own dna into a human male. Perhaps it even knew it was a genetic failure to it's own kind, and was hoping to preserve it's line any way it could? And when Patrick came to Earth he brought those mutations with him?
** The major problem in this line of thinking is that each step in this chain is itself some matter of hybrid. (if Patrick can really be called that?) Each with questions the movies never bother fully explaining to us. I think it's entirely possible Patrick's infector could have been a hybrid itself, a genetic mutation and/or a subspecies to the pure DNA that was sent. And even if a scifi setting, any of those things could totally cause genetic problems to his mating with humans or Eve.
8th Apr '16 8:46:05 PM ErikModi
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** [[AllThereInTheManual According to the novel,]] they aren't actually sisters, just good friends who like to party together, and [[FetishFuel sometimes claim to be sisters.]] Still, they look enough alike it could go either way.
8th Apr '16 8:43:03 PM ErikModi
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* Alternatively, the "infinite-energy methane equation" could have just been a ruse to "convince humanity they're dealing with a friendly intelligence" (Fitch says almost exactly this in the film) so that humans would unquestioningly perform the follow-up DNA experiment without pausing to consider the ramifications. Basically, these aliens are assholes.
8th Apr '16 8:40:02 PM ErikModi
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* Also, Patrick was infected by alien DNA leftover on Mars, which was implied to have wiped out a much earlier Martian civilization. So the alien DNA would have had Martian DNA mixed in with it, turning Patrick not into a straight human/alien hybrid, but a human/Martian/alien hybrid. Could also explain why the infected female astronaut didn't become Sil II (or III, depending on how you like to count.)



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11th Sep '15 7:56:24 PM kimmokun
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It would explain certain inconsistencies. Like why Patrick's true form doesn't look anything like that of Sil's son. And why Sil took much longer to develop from fertilized egg to baby than seems normal for her species (she was presumably implanted in a human surrogate mother, and her species doesn't have whatever mechanisms allowed Patrick's offspring to just suck 7-9 pounds of material out of their hosts in minutes, so her early growth was dramatically slowed down). They are related but distinct species (or subspecies - they're obviously interfertile). This theory is also appealing because it removes the third movie's implication that any offspring Sil had would probably have been sickly and sterile so she could never have been a serious threat to humanity. And it would provide a handy excuse for any fanfic writers who might want to throw out some of the things we learned about the creatures in the second and third movie.
* Since they seem to be artificial constructs to begin with, this makes a fair bit of sense.
* Remember that Sil's son was still a baby. It may well be that once they enter the pupa stage for turning into adults they may well turn into the more quadruped form as Patrick.

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It would explain certain inconsistencies. Like why Patrick's true form doesn't look anything like that of Sil's son. And why Sil took much longer to develop from fertilized egg to baby than seems normal for her species (she was presumably implanted in a human surrogate mother, and her species doesn't have whatever mechanisms allowed Patrick's offspring to just suck 7-9 pounds of material out of their hosts in minutes, so her early growth was dramatically slowed down). They are related but distinct species (or subspecies - they're obviously interfertile). This theory is also appealing because it removes the third movie's implication that any offspring Sil had would probably have been sickly and sterile so she could never have been a serious threat to humanity. And it would provide a handy excuse for any fanfic writers who might want to throw out some of the things we learned about the creatures in the second and third movie.
* Since they seem to be artificial constructs to begin with, this makes a fair bit of sense.
* Remember that Sil's son was still a baby. It may well be that once they enter the pupa stage for turning into adults they may well turn into the more quadruped form as Patrick.
sense.
2nd Sep '15 7:09:45 PM tropelion
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* Obviously Patrick is the father: there was no where else she could have come from. Sil's only child was a boy and both were killed. The second egg was Eve and the third went on to become the chick in Species 4. As for the mother, maybe, maybe not. If you think so, go for it.

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* Obviously Patrick is the father: there was no where else she could have come from. Sil's only child was a boy and both were killed. The second egg was Eve and the third went on to become the chick in Species 4. As for the mother, maybe, maybe not. If you think so, go for it. women in the threesome, remember they were sisters, it could be either one.
2nd Sep '15 7:08:43 PM tropelion
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* Obviously Patrick is the father: there was no where else she could have come from. Sil's only child was a boy and both were killed. The second egg was Eve and the third went on to become the chick in Species 4. As for the mother, maybe, maybe not. If you think so, go for it.
12th Jul '15 9:42:32 PM igordebraga
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[[WMG: The [[AbusivePrecursors]] that sent the signal are actually the [[Film/{{Prometheus}} Engineers]].]]

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[[WMG: The [[AbusivePrecursors]] AbusivePrecursors that sent the signal are actually the [[Film/{{Prometheus}} Engineers]].]]
29th Nov '14 11:55:09 PM AmiciDiBeowulf
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[[WMG: The [[AbusivePrecursors]] that sent the signal are actually the [[Film/{{Prometheus}} Engineers]].]]
And the sample they sent is a fragment of [[Franchise/{{Alien}} Xenomorph]] DNA. It was their plan B in case the LV-223 facility WMD wouldn't work. So they sent a piece of genome of their most successful(according to EU successful enough to [[GoneHorriblyRight rebel against them and win]]) bioweapon and let our stupidity do the rest. Also, Sil and her ilk look an awful lot like a perfect mix of human and xenomorph, in appearance, mindset and abilities. The fact they can be tame and reasonable when treated like people and not like lab rats was not a problem for the Engineers, they know [[AbsoluteXenophobe humanity]] all too well...
14th Oct '14 1:47:24 AM TitoMosquito
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[[WMG: The hot chick who boinked the guy to death in the men's room in Species 3 was the daughter of the 2nd woman in Patrick's threesome in Species 2]]

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[[WMG: The hot chick who boinked the guy to death in the men's room in Species 3 ''Species 3'' was the daughter of the 2nd woman in Patrick's threesome in Species 2]]''Species 2'']]
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