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29th Mar '18 6:32:37 AM RookEncounte
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\n* In a way, the unggue pots are actually relics of each goblin's self, like how various parts of saints, and even Jesus' foreskin are preserved as relics.
* Stinky may be a self-actualized goblin, one who has collected enough self-belief to turn into a small god himself.


1st Feb '18 6:28:03 AM Turrican
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[[WMG: Stinky is a champion of the Summoning Dark.]]
The Summoning Dark speaks to Vimes regularly throughout the story, and hints at a connection to the goblins. "No race is so wretched that something does not care for them". With the many violent misdeeds committed against the goblins, any one of them could have invoked the Summoning Dark during their dying moments, which could then possess Stinky later. The only oddity is that Stinky survives without murdering the perpetrators, but the Summoning Dark may have changed its attitude after its experiences with Vimes.
13th Apr '17 2:06:58 PM Lullabee
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* I think his deal may actually be that the better he gets at his job, the more he can afford to relax and behave like a person. He used to be occasionally prone to making mistakes (''Discworld/{{Sourcery}}'', ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', ''Discworld/MenAtArms''), and tended to get removed from office and/or nearly killed a lot. He was probably trying to avoid coming across as at all vulnerable, since everything was difficult enough already. Since he hasn't screwed up and/or nearly gotten killed recently, he lets himself relax a bit.

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* I think his deal may actually be that the better he gets at his job, the more he can afford to relax and behave like a person. He used to be occasionally prone to making mistakes (''Discworld/{{Sourcery}}'', ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', ''Discworld/MenAtArms''), and tended to get removed from office and/or nearly killed a lot. He was probably trying to avoid coming across as at all vulnerable, but since everything was difficult enough already. Since he hasn't screwed up and/or nearly gotten been killed recently, he lets himself relax a bit.
feels confident enough to act human.
13th Apr '17 2:02:26 PM Lullabee
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* I think his deal may actually be that the better he gets at his job, the more he can afford to relax and behave like a person. He used to be occasionally prone to making mistakes (''Discworld/{{Sourcery}}'', ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', ''Discworld/MenAtArms''), and tended to get removed from office and/or nearly killed a lot. He was probably trying to avoid coming across as at all vulnerable, since everything was difficult enough already. Since he hasn't screwed up and/or nearly gotten killed recently, he lets himself relax a bit.
7th Jul '16 2:22:40 PM AgProv
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**Jossed, in part, owing to AuthorExistenceFailure. But Terry's amanuensis Rob Wilkins let it slip that when Terry died, there was an unfinished outline novel about Howondaland called ''The Dark Incontinent''. Some of that material may have surfaced in the ''Complete Discworld Atlas'', which expands a little on the continent. Snippets include more on Balgrog hunter "Howondaland Smith", who is visually depicted as a Great White hunter type in safari garb. There is also a country where the nearest thing to a capital city is called ''Smithville''. White Howondaland?
5th Mar '16 11:14:37 PM Tom_Murch
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The city could certainly benefit from having one, and Young Sam's intellectual curiosity and deep appreciation for the written word are well-established (albeit a bit mucky) in this book.

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The city could certainly benefit from having one, and Young Sam's intellectual curiosity and deep appreciation for the written word are well-established (albeit a bit mucky) in this book.book.

[[WMG: Young Sam will grow up to an animal doctor.]]
After showing such an interest in animal droppings and the biological functions that create them, Young Sam might well move on to studying the animals themselves. There would be a nice symmetry to this, as Vimes himself is - in his own way - something of a Vetinarian.
8th Jan '16 1:24:26 PM AnneElliotsCat
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** But, given what we know about Mr. Fusspot's taste in toys, what kind of "pet shop" would stock them?
25th Feb '15 5:48:22 PM LadyFuchsia
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* I had thought he was Unggue. Not the god of Unggue, just... Unggue. Remember, "when gods turn away, Unggue pulls up sleeves and gets to work. Unggue watches over us." Or something like that. What better way to improve the goblins' lot than by saving the life of someone who wants to help them?
17th Feb '15 10:09:26 PM Khurzog
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* While you were outů
23rd Jan '14 5:16:07 AM RookEncounte
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As we saw in ''Discworld/SmallGods'' there is a hermit, St. '''Ungulant''', who worships the small gods and gets illusions of great food, drink, and other pleasures in return for belief. In ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'' the Discworld equivalent of Saint Elmo's Fire appears, called St. Ungulant's Fire: a storm full of magic or possibly raw belief, raining down fish or other things strange things since people think that that is what a "magic" storm would do. Clearly the word ''Unggue'' is from a similar root, about belief: Goblins are meta-aware that their belief in the value of all their bodily secretions imbues those substances with ''belief'' and make ''Unggue'' pots to hold what is essentially raw belief given physical form. ''Unggue'' pots are made to prevent the leakage or loss of any belief, without which goblins might fade away and cease to exist.


Disworld - Unggue and Ungulant

Goblins' Unggue (SNUFF): collection of bodily secretions in magic pots, not allowing any belief or proof of existence leak away?

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As we saw in ''Discworld/SmallGods'' there is a hermit, St. '''Ungulant''', who worships the small gods and gets illusions of great food, drink, and other pleasures in return for belief. In ''Discworld/{{Jingo}}'' the Discworld equivalent of Saint Elmo's Fire appears, called St. Ungulant's Fire: a storm full of magic or possibly raw belief, raining down fish or other things strange things since people think that that is what a "magic" storm would do. Clearly the word ''Unggue'' ''Unggue'', referring to the goblins' magic pots, is from a similar root, about belief: Goblins are meta-aware that their belief in the value of all their bodily secretions imbues those substances with ''belief'' and make ''Unggue'' pots to hold what is essentially raw belief given physical form. ''Unggue'' pots are made to prevent the leakage or loss of any belief, without which goblins might fade away and cease to exist.


Disworld - Unggue and Ungulant

Goblins' Unggue (SNUFF): collection of bodily secretions in magic pots, not allowing any belief or proof of existence leak away?
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