History WMG / Sherlock

1st Aug '17 5:28:22 AM SeptimusHeap
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* ALL of Elementary!Sherlock's tattoos are covering scars (not just the one on his wrist). And now we know [[{{Frankenstein}} what kind of "experiment" BBC!Sherlock was doing with those spare body parts in the fridge]].

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* ALL of Elementary!Sherlock's tattoos are covering scars (not just the one on his wrist). And now we know [[{{Frankenstein}} [[Film/{{Frankenstein 1931}} what kind of "experiment" BBC!Sherlock was doing with those spare body parts in the fridge]].
15th Jul '17 8:42:53 PM nombretomado
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In the commentary to "The Great Game", BenedictCumberbatch and Creator/MarkGatiss are talking about the scene where Mycroft visits Baker Street and introduces the missing Bruce-Partington plans. They explain that there was much more dialogue in this scene filmed, most of it was cut, but Gatiss says something about using it later on, something about how a young Sherlock Holmes had disturbed the peace in his home. Cumberbatch begins to say "Sherlock finds out his father is having-" before cutting himself off.

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In the commentary to "The Great Game", BenedictCumberbatch Creator/BenedictCumberbatch and Creator/MarkGatiss are talking about the scene where Mycroft visits Baker Street and introduces the missing Bruce-Partington plans. They explain that there was much more dialogue in this scene filmed, most of it was cut, but Gatiss says something about using it later on, something about how a young Sherlock Holmes had disturbed the peace in his home. Cumberbatch begins to say "Sherlock finds out his father is having-" before cutting himself off.
3rd Jun '17 7:22:30 PM lampshadeortriangle
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[[WMG: Sherlock isn't a sociopath...]]
Sherlock may explain his weird tendencies by saying he's a sociopath, but he actually portrays very few real-life sociopath traits. Real sociopaths are known for being very suave and uncommonly persuasive/likable, mostly as a way to compensate for their lack of empathy. Without genuine human empathy, they often seem shallow, sometimes vapid, and obsessively concerned with being liked. Also, they tend to switch suddenly and violently between a normal-seeming state and outright insanity. Unlike popular depictions, sociopaths are actually capable of a kind of connection, but it generally takes the form of an overprotective, obsessive, generally sexual and unhealthy relationship, which is usually confined to a tiny inner circle. Sociopaths also tend to feel the need to "protect" their inner circle, often violently, and often from what only ''they'' consider threats - and when their loved ones are "threatened," they are sometimes described as seeming almost animalistic, unable to control their own violent actions. They tend to be blank towards everyone else, except when manipulating them. They tend to be short-tempered, but don't really feel fear, and can seem unnaturally calm in life-or-death situations. Finally, their capacity for pain is significantly diminished.

Sherlock doesn't show a lot of these traits. But you know who does? ''John.''

Bear with me. John is very likable and charming most of the time... except when he's inexplicably not. He can go from charming a stranger into telling him their whole life story, to saying something suddenly insensitive like referring to someone's addict son as "the drugs one," without seeming to realize the change. He can be extremely shallow at times, flirting with Sarah after they've been kidnapped and even assuming there will be a "next date." Unlike Sherlock, who is generally rude and inconsiderate all the time, John tends to switch between sweetness and heartlessness, sometimes on a dime. His relationships bear special study. He fought in the military and is heavily implied to be decorated, yet we see a grand total of one fellow soldier. This is really unusual and only one of a series of hints that John didn't fit in or make friends, even in the army. During the course of the show, he accumulates a small group of people he's close to... yet if you look closely at his interactions, it becomes apparent that it's even smaller than it looks. He treats Mycroft with indifference, is hardly ever shown talking to Lestrade or Molly and has certainly never been depicted to act like a close friend towards them, and he has never had the kind of relationship Sherlock does with Mrs. Hudson. His close friends are essentially limited to Sherlock and Mary. Also, of the people he's shown genuine interest in, just about zilch of those relationships have been non-sexual, or at least not marked by some kind of romantic interest, whether subtle, fleeting, or neither. How John reacts when those people are threatened doesn't need recounting. One example, however, is interesting. When D.I. Dimmock calls Sherlock a "weirdo vigilante," John's immediate, violent reaction seems almost like a reflex. Actually, a lot of John's more violent scenes seem like they're done almost on reflex. He also has quite the temper, sometimes blowing up at small things. Yet he's totally calm through kidnappings, bombings, gunfights, and meetings with serial killers. His hands don't even shake "at all" when firing to kill, and he doesn't seem to care at all when he's done so. And finally, aside from a canonically psychosomatic limp, he's never been shown to have any kind of pain in his shoulder, where - let me remind you - he was shot, badly enough that he had to be discharged.

In conclusion, John is scary and you wouldn't like him when he's angry. Run. Run far away.
3rd Jun '17 6:49:24 PM lampshadeortriangle
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29th May '17 9:04:25 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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This OOC moment came about halfway through ''Reichenbach'', much earlier than the roof scene: [[spoiler: When leaving Scotland Yard, Sherlock got into the first cab that stopped (which happened to be driven by Jim, who proceeded to play him the Sir Boast-A-Lot video which looked suspiciously like it might have been filmed on the set of a children's show that might be called something like "The Storyteller", but that's neither here nor there). In the original stories, GenreSavvy Holmes more than once goes on at length about how you should never get into the first cab that stops, particularly if you think you might be in danger or being followed. (One of the times he mentions this is in ''The Final Problem'', even! I doubt it's something massive Holmes fanboys like Moffat and Gattiss would just forget about.) He also tells John to take another cab because Sherlock wants to think and "[John] might talk", when previously Sherlock has said that he does better when he thinks out loud. If Sherlock did get into the cab on purpose, it implies that Sherlock, possibly with Mycroft's help, was steering events from MUCH earlier in the episode than previously believed. In fact, if Mycroft went to Sherlock immediately upon realizing his mistake with Moriarty, the two of them would have had ample time to come up with an elaborate plan to thwart him.]]


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This OOC moment came about halfway through ''Reichenbach'', much earlier than the roof scene: [[spoiler: When leaving Scotland Yard, Sherlock got into the first cab that stopped (which happened to be driven by Jim, who proceeded to play him the Sir Boast-A-Lot video which looked suspiciously like it might have been filmed on the set of a children's show that might be called something like "The Storyteller", but that's neither here nor there). In the original stories, GenreSavvy Holmes more than once goes on at length about how you should never get into the first cab that stops, particularly if you think you might be in danger or being followed. (One of the times he mentions this is in ''The Final Problem'', even! I doubt it's something massive Holmes fanboys like Moffat and Gattiss would just forget about.) He also tells John to take another cab because Sherlock wants to think and "[John] might talk", when previously Sherlock has said that he does better when he thinks out loud. If Sherlock did get into the cab on purpose, it implies that Sherlock, possibly with Mycroft's help, was steering events from MUCH earlier in the episode than previously believed. In fact, if Mycroft went to Sherlock immediately upon realizing his mistake with Moriarty, the two of them would have had ample time to come up with an elaborate plan to thwart him.]]

2nd May '17 11:20:28 PM act-one
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**this is like the worst thing ive ever heard
17th Apr '17 9:53:21 AM StrigiformeLover
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[[folder: Series/DoctorWho specific cross overs]]

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[[folder: Series/DoctorWho Doctor Who specific cross overs]]
crossovers]]
28th Mar '17 1:36:37 PM eroock
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[[WMG: Sherlock's callous treatment of Molly in previous episodes is because he was keeping her BeneathSuspicion for precisely this sort of situation.]]

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[[WMG: Sherlock's callous treatment of Molly in previous episodes is because he was keeping her BeneathSuspicion BeneathNotice for precisely this sort of situation.]]
8th Mar '17 12:38:58 PM mlsmithca
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* ''Please'' [[SoCoolItsAwesome let this be true]]. A modernized version of Lupin would be epic in numerous ways... mostly [[MasterOfDisguise all the new disguises he would not have had access to in the original setting]]. The fact that Holmes (or a CaptainErsatz depending on the publisher) was used as Lupin's WorthyOpponent makes this all the more interesting.

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* ''Please'' [[SoCoolItsAwesome [[SugarWiki/SoCoolItsAwesome let this be true]]. A modernized version of Lupin would be epic in numerous ways... mostly [[MasterOfDisguise all the new disguises he would not have had access to in the original setting]]. The fact that Holmes (or a CaptainErsatz depending on the publisher) was used as Lupin's WorthyOpponent makes this all the more interesting.
25th Feb '17 2:58:06 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Alternatively, the command was [[DoraTheExplorer "Snipers no sniping!!]]]]

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[[WMG: Alternatively, the command was [[DoraTheExplorer [[WesternAnimation/DoraTheExplorer "Snipers no sniping!!]]]]
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