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5th Mar '13 9:24:26 PM Mullon

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20th Jan '13 12:35:51 PM nombretomado

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Afterwards, the Jigsaw philosophy slowly gains recruits, eventually being a considerable cult and even taking over small villages. After a century, it's one of the most powerful forces in America and has outlets in other countries. A little while later, and soon there are Jigsaws EVERYWHERE (deverywhere, deverywhere). Every household in America gets tested (gets tested, gets tested). It becomes bigger than hula hoops (hula hoops, hula hoops). Eventually it is the leading cause of death in the world and not a single person goes through their life without undergoing a Jigsaw trap. Of course some would prefer being DrivenToSuicide than to endure the traps. Quality of life declines and people forget what they knew, as slowly the Jigsaw become a seperate, more powerful class than the Non-Jigsaw. They're worshipped as gods, and scientific knowledge shifts to being exclusively the domain of the Jigsaw, as the Jigsaw do research into new traps and execute the Non-Jigsaw scientists for stupid reasons. Eventually the Jigsaw create AM from IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream, who kills the Jigsaw and most of the Non-Jigsaw, but still tries to perform his function...

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Afterwards, the Jigsaw philosophy slowly gains recruits, eventually being a considerable cult and even taking over small villages. After a century, it's one of the most powerful forces in America and has outlets in other countries. A little while later, and soon there are Jigsaws EVERYWHERE (deverywhere, deverywhere). Every household in America gets tested (gets tested, gets tested). It becomes bigger than hula hoops (hula hoops, hula hoops). Eventually it is the leading cause of death in the world and not a single person goes through their life without undergoing a Jigsaw trap. Of course some would prefer being DrivenToSuicide than to endure the traps. Quality of life declines and people forget what they knew, as slowly the Jigsaw become a seperate, more powerful class than the Non-Jigsaw. They're worshipped as gods, and scientific knowledge shifts to being exclusively the domain of the Jigsaw, as the Jigsaw do research into new traps and execute the Non-Jigsaw scientists for stupid reasons. Eventually the Jigsaw create AM from Literature/IHaveNoMouthAndIMustScream, who kills the Jigsaw and most of the Non-Jigsaw, but still tries to perform his function...

14th Oct '12 1:30:10 PM nombretomado

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11th Aug '12 1:20:22 AM Zeke

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these comments were lost when the entry was moved to Analysis and then back

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24th Jun '12 2:31:44 PM FELH2

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da Namespace stuff

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14th Mar '12 1:10:19 PM memememememe

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Wrong philosophy. If anything Jigsaw is the anti-Schopenhauer and his philosophy is more consistent with the likes of Nietzsche.

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25th Feb '12 2:47:25 PM Dante668

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As the series unfolds, we discover that John Kramer had cancer in his brain, specifically in the frontal lobes. It is widely believed that the frontal lobes are responsible for one's moral compass, and damage to that area can cause drastic changes in personality, turning a perfectly decent man into a complete JerkAss (look up Phineas Gage for an example). So, while his master plan for reforming humanity one ungrateful bastard at a time did have noble roots (albeit those triggered by anger), as the cancer progressed it started affecting his personality and morality, turning a WellIntentionedExtremist into a KnightTemplar.

[[WMG: Jigsaw is an AlternateUniverse version of DrSteel.]]
Both started out as toymakers, but then a tragedy occurred, turning them away from their child-friendly origins into more nefarious avenues via morally-ambiguous engineering projects.  However, while DrSteel may have started off a bit further [[MadScientist off-kilter]], Jigsaw had the brain tumor (see above) that wrecked his moral compass, turning him evil.  Meaning Jigsaw is the ''evil'' version of DrSteel, who was a MadScientist.  Jigsaw turned to deathtraps, DrSteel turned to music and world conquest.

12th Nov '11 10:53:25 AM BoomerFlash

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If you are going to add a WMG please add follow up info as well and Time Lord WMG have their own page

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15th Sep '11 6:49:14 PM Dante668

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Think about it. Both Jisaw and Atem like to play ''games'' with their victims in order to show them the error of their ways. If the victim loses, they get a KarmicDeath (or karmic punishment in YuGiOh's case). The only real difference is that Atem is an AntiHero while Jisaw is an actual villain...well that and Atem has supernatural powers.

[[WMG:Jigsaw's psychosis had a valid medical cause.]]
As the series unfolds, we discover that John Kramer had cancer in his brain, specifically in the frontal lobes.  It is widely believed that the frontal lobes are responsible for one's moral compass, and damage to that area can cause drastic changes in personality, turning a perfectly decent man into a complete JerkAss (look up Phineas Gage for an example).  So, while his master plan for reforming humanity one ungrateful bastard at a time did have noble roots (albeit those triggered by anger), as the cancer progressed it started affecting his personality and morality, turning a WellIntentionedExtremist into a KnightTemplar.

28th May '11 3:13:08 PM theweirdwarrior

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