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15th May '17 10:33:22 PM Doug86
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According to the egregore theory, something or someone becomes real if enough people believe in. Given the millions of children who do, Santa must exist, but not as pictured and not in physical form, rather as Christmas Spirit personification. It could explain why [Literature/AChristmasCarol the ghost of Christmas present] look so much like him.

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According to the egregore theory, something or someone becomes real if enough people believe in. Given the millions of children who do, Santa must exist, but not as pictured and not in physical form, rather as Christmas Spirit personification. It could explain why [Literature/AChristmasCarol [[Literature/AChristmasCarol the ghost of Christmas present] present]] look so much like him.
15th May '17 10:32:51 PM Doug86
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According to the egregore theory, something or someone becomes real if enough people believe in. Given the millions of children who do, Santa must exist, but not as pictured and not in physical form, rather as Christmas Spirit personification. It could explain why [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/AChristmasCarol the ghost of Christmas present]] look so much like him.

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According to the egregore theory, something or someone becomes real if enough people believe in. Given the millions of children who do, Santa must exist, but not as pictured and not in physical form, rather as Christmas Spirit personification. It could explain why [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/AChristmasCarol [Literature/AChristmasCarol the ghost of Christmas present]] present] look so much like him.
15th Apr '17 3:40:38 PM nombretomado
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** [[SomethingPositive I'm sorry, you lost me after "endlessly long tongue".]]

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** [[SomethingPositive [[Webcomic/SomethingPositive I'm sorry, you lost me after "endlessly long tongue".]]
2nd Apr '17 3:01:19 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Santa Claus has a Persona, and he gives out gifts during [[PerSona3 the Dark Hour]], which is why no one sees him and also why he can travel the world in one night.]]

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[[WMG: Santa Claus has a Persona, and he gives out gifts during [[PerSona3 [[VideoGame/Persona3 the Dark Hour]], which is why no one sees him and also why he can travel the world in one night.]]
30th Dec '16 8:09:43 PM nombretomado
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** Something like this may be the case at [[DisneyThemeParks EPCOT]], where several national pavilions have their national "versions" of Santa as storytellers during the holiday season (American Santa and Ms. Claus, French Pere Noel, British Father Christmas) who are treated as different characters. [[http://www.charactercentral.net/C284_DisneyCharacters_Holiday_PereNoël.aspx This Disney character guide description of Pere Noel]] says that he "is a very good friend of Santa Claus and Father Christmas" and will tell them if he sees kids being bad while visiting France.

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** Something like this may be the case at [[DisneyThemeParks [[Ride/DisneyThemeParks EPCOT]], where several national pavilions have their national "versions" of Santa as storytellers during the holiday season (American Santa and Ms. Claus, French Pere Noel, British Father Christmas) who are treated as different characters. [[http://www.charactercentral.net/C284_DisneyCharacters_Holiday_PereNoël.aspx This Disney character guide description of Pere Noel]] says that he "is a very good friend of Santa Claus and Father Christmas" and will tell them if he sees kids being bad while visiting France.
26th Dec '16 10:39:03 AM KaiYves
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* [[https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NORAD_Tracks_Santa Confirmed!]]




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** [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christmas_and_winter_gift-bringers_by_country Some holiday gift-bringers don't look or act much like Santa]] (e.g. The Italian La Befana is a good witch who looks like an old woman, Finland has the Yule Goat, etc.), but Santa could also be their supervisor and inspiration. One organization with different members in each country would explain the different national traditions ''and'' solve the "how does he visit every house in one night" problem really well-- every gift-giver has their own region and some of them come on Epiphany, the Winter Solstice, or other days that aren't Christmas Eve! Muggles just think Santa visits every country because of the special cases and because so many members of the organization (Pere Noel, Father Christmas, Grandfather Frost, etc.) do look and act similar.
** Something like this may be the case at [[DisneyThemeParks EPCOT]], where several national pavilions have their national "versions" of Santa as storytellers during the holiday season (American Santa and Ms. Claus, French Pere Noel, British Father Christmas) who are treated as different characters. [[http://www.charactercentral.net/C284_DisneyCharacters_Holiday_PereNoël.aspx This Disney character guide description of Pere Noel]] says that he "is a very good friend of Santa Claus and Father Christmas" and will tell them if he sees kids being bad while visiting France.
5th Dec '16 12:49:34 AM Luppercus
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* Technically he does not visit every house in the world; only houses with Christian children. Now this number is still very high, but take in consideration that not every country celebrates Christmas in December 24th, Orthodox Christmas is in January 7th for example, and the gift repartition in some countries is in January (Mexico for example), so he really has like a week of non-consecutive days of time.
5th Dec '16 12:40:58 AM Luppercus
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* This theory actually makes a lot of sense, if I were Rowling I'll make it canon.
5th Dec '16 12:39:15 AM Luppercus
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* That could explain why in Latin America the person bringing gifts in Christmas is literally Jesus Christ.
29th Nov '16 11:15:23 AM thewhitefairy
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He is a God of the ancient winter festival, not the (supposed) birth of Mr. Christ. He delivers presents by [[Literature/{{Hogfather}} being in his own time]], and [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve delivers more to children that believe in him]], explaining why children get less presents as they grow older, and why adults get none. The non-believing adults come up with their own explanation for this, being that they bought the presents.

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He is a God of the ancient winter festival, not the (supposed) birth of Mr. Christ. He delivers presents by [[Literature/{{Hogfather}} being in his own time]], and [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve delivers more to children that believe in him]], explaining why children get less presents as they grow older, and why adults get none. The non-believing adults come up with their own explanation for this, being that they bought the presents.presents.

[[WMG: Santa Claus is an immortal friend of Jesus.]]
According to a kid's book, Santa Claus was a childhood friend of The Christ, and of the same age. The latter asked him to give presents to everyone at His Birthday. Santa Claus was hinted [[InexplicablyAwesome to be immortal and have magic abilities from birth]], helping him for the task.
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