History WMG / Rugrats

8th May '16 5:22:43 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Rugrats, WesternAnimation/TheWildThornberrys, WesternAnimation/AaahhRealMonsters, WesternAnimation/AsToldByGinger, WesternAnimation/HeyArnold, and WesternAnimation/RocketPower all take place in the same universe]]

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[[WMG: Rugrats, WesternAnimation/TheWildThornberrys, WesternAnimation/AaahhRealMonsters, WesternAnimation/AsToldByGinger, WesternAnimation/HeyArnold, ''Rugrats'', ''WesternAnimation/TheWildThornberrys'', ''WesternAnimation/AaahhRealMonsters'', ''WesternAnimation/AsToldByGinger'', ''WesternAnimation/HeyArnold'', and WesternAnimation/RocketPower ''WesternAnimation/RocketPower'' all take place in the same universe]]



[[WMG: Charlotte and [[Main/HeyArnold Miriam Pataki]] are sisters]]


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[[WMG: Charlotte and [[Main/HeyArnold [[WesternAnimation/HeyArnold Miriam Pataki]] are sisters]]

8th May '16 5:10:40 PM ClinkerGynoid
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[WMG: [Tommy Pickles wrote a Hollywood screenplay that originated in fuzzy memories of his childhood, but the film was reworked to become[Film/Gremlins]]

Gizmo was based on Spike, while the bad Gremlins were inspired by Mr. Friend and the tarantula Stu bought Tommy when Spike ran away. The overall concept for the film came from his grandfather Boris’s stories of the Dybbuk.

Tommy originally had the main characters as himself and his slightly younger brother, his parents, and his friends Chuckie and Kimi. His grandparents, cousin, and aunt also appeared in the film as supporting characters.

However, this resulted in a lot of rewrites by Hollywood suits, which Tommy was not happy with. The violent draft of the film with Billy’s mother’s head falling down the stairs was actually an early, much darker REWRITE of Tommy’s film. His original vision would have been much less misanthropic or dark than even the final cut of Gremlins. The execs decided to save Tommy’s concept of a “spider-like” Gremlin for a sequel, and distorted a line that described the Gremlins as ‘evil clowns’ and made the monsters full of slapstick. The original script also had another good Gremlin inspired by Reptar, but this character was deleted. They decided the story needed a clear human antagonist, and combined Charlotte and Angelica’s worst traits to create Mrs. Deagle. Tommy felt it was not fair to make two of his relatives into a one-dimensional villain, but things got worse. Dil was aged down to become Pete, because the producers wanted a little-kid character. They decided to make Kimi white and into the protagonist’s girlfriend. Tommy balked at the execs deleting Chuckie’s character from the film, because he was supposed to undergo a lot of character development and demonstrate courage. He was also supposed to have a sensitive monologue about always being scared since his mother died…which the execs turned into a joke about the death of the love interest’s father. The last straw was when the writers whitewashed the characters he based on his Grandparents, Boris and Minka, especially because he wanted a Christmas movie that showed not everyone celebrates Christmas, but it’s still a time for family. The script, written just after Boris and Minka passed away, was Tommy’s tribute to them. The Boris character was originally going to discuss the legends of the Dybbuk in the movie and compare them to stories of Gremlins from WWII. The studio felt this content made the movie “too ethnic”, would distract from the Christmas theme, and might also be too stereotypical, so the characters were reworked into the Futtermans. When Tommy was fired from the project, the Futtermans were killed off, but retconned into being saved when test audiences complained. By the time the film had been shot, the only characters who bore any resemblance to those in the original script were Billy, his parents, and Gizmo. The rest, as they say, is movie history.

27th Mar '16 10:10:27 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Stu will sometimes do commissioned inventions for [[Main/{{Doug}} Mr. Dink.]]]]

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[[WMG: Stu will sometimes do commissioned inventions for [[Main/{{Doug}} [[WesternAnimation/{{Doug}} Mr. Dink.]]]]
19th Mar '16 1:05:44 AM Hossmeister
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9th Mar '16 1:04:50 PM Hossmeister
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I'd say around 1991 or 1992. Unlike other series it didn't have a floating timeline. It stayed where it was set, like PepperAnn. There are little to no things in the show that would be odd in the early 90s.. The sequel supports this by being set ten years in the future but seemingly being set in the early 2000s.

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I'd say around 1991 or 1992. Unlike other series it didn't have a floating timeline. It stayed where it was set, like PepperAnn.WesternAnimation/PepperAnn. There are little to no things in the show that would be odd in the early 90s.. The sequel supports this by being set ten years in the future but seemingly being set in the early 2000s.
12th Feb '16 8:38:57 PM Unicorndance
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**But, in Piece of Cake, Tommy was not IN it. And why would Kimi feed Fifi at the beginning of Attention Please if she didn't exist? (at the beginning, Tommy is




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*This Troper believes the episodes after that are actually [[GrowingTheBeard an ''increase'']] in quality. And why would Angelica be thinking about those dumb babies with some of them not having herself in?



** This doesn't work quite as well because in "A Visit from Aunt Miriam," Aunt Miriam mentions she and Grandpa used to play with kids named Bill and Jill (Phil and Lil). It's possible that instead, Stu was Tommy, Chaz was Chuckie, and Betty was a combination of both Phil and Lil (kind of the same way Kath Soucie did the voice acting for both twins). If that's the case, it's quite possible Charlotte was the Angelica for the parents' group, but they don't mention it much because she also married their "Tommy's" older brother. Would've been sort of awkward to bring up childhood dynamics in that case, especially in front of Angelica. Not that she needs any more encouragement to torment the babies, but hearing what her mom used to do might make her think, "Cool; how come I never thought of that?"

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** This doesn't work quite as well because in "A Visit from Aunt Miriam," Aunt Miriam mentions she and Grandpa used to play with kids named Bill and Jill (Phil and Lil). It's possible that instead, Stu was Tommy, Chaz Chas was Chuckie, and Betty was a combination of both Phil and Lil (kind of the same way Kath Soucie did the voice acting for both twins). If that's the case, it's quite possible Charlotte was the Angelica for the parents' group, but they don't mention it much because she also married their "Tommy's" older brother. Would've been sort of awkward to bring up childhood dynamics in that case, especially in front of Angelica. Not that she needs any more encouragement to torment the babies, but hearing what her mom used to do might make her think, "Cool; how come I never thought of that?"




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*If he was one, he would have gone back in time instead of trying to go into Chucky in Inside Story.







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If he's gay, why did he marry a woman?



Minka might've been "the most beautiful girl in the whole village" but that didn't stop Boris from [[UnusualEuphemism sticking his spoon in someone's else borsch]] if you catch my drift. Boris has a fling and years later Ben shows up on the doorstep. "My mother confessed on her deathbed that you're my father." One blood test later and ''"OH BORIS!"'' Minka of course doesn't divorce him for any number of reasons (Divorce isn't acceptable to her generation, she doesn't want to throw away a lifetime together, etc.) and eventually forgives him. It would explain why Ben hardly ever shows up and another way how he could be Didi's ''younger'' half-brother.

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Minka might've been "the most beautiful girl in the whole village" but that didn't stop Boris from [[UnusualEuphemism sticking his spoon in someone's else borsch]] borscht]] if you catch my drift. Boris has a fling and years later Ben shows up on the doorstep. "My mother confessed on her deathbed that you're my father." One blood test later and ''"OH BORIS!"'' Minka of course doesn't divorce him for any number of reasons (Divorce isn't acceptable to her generation, she doesn't want to throw away a lifetime together, etc.) and eventually forgives him. It would explain why Ben hardly ever shows up and another way how he could be Didi's ''younger'' half-brother.



* Well, that explains a lot. If they're related to someone like that, no wonder Chaz is a neurotic wreck and Chuckie is scared of everything from the dark to oatmeal. It's also possible that Muriel is Chaz's father's sister or other relative. Notice that Chaz's dad is sort of a tough guy who doesn't buy into child psychology (see "Finsterella" and "The Family Tree.") Why? Because he and Muriel grew up like that, of course.

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* Well, that explains a lot. If they're related to someone like that, no wonder Chaz Chas is a neurotic wreck and Chuckie is scared of everything from the dark to oatmeal. It's also possible that Muriel is Chaz's Chas's father's sister or other relative. Notice that Chaz's Chas's dad is sort of a tough guy who doesn't buy into child psychology (see "Finsterella" and "The Family Tree.") Why? Because he and Muriel grew up like that, of course.



It's shown throughout the series that the adults are rabid-fans of the Dummi Bears cartoon show. They're incredibly enthusiastic about the cartoon, and seem convinced that their children are equally excited about it. The only adults who don't like it are Grandpa, who thinks it's brainlessly stupid, and Randy Carmichael because of the fact that he has to deal with it day in and day out. However, the babies don't like the Dummi Bears. The babies prefer Reptar. That's why they'll often escape on adventure if they're stuck watching a Dummi Bears movie or cartoon. One episode showed that the Dummi Bears served as a form of mind-control on children, compelling them to watch. The ones more easily sucked in to the mind-control are Angelica, who is older than the other babies, and the teenaged babysitter meant to be watching the kids. The babies figured out the mind-control and went off on another adventure.

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It's shown throughout the series that the adults are rabid-fans fans of the Dummi Bears cartoon show. They're incredibly enthusiastic about the cartoon, and seem convinced that their children are equally excited about it. The only adults who don't like it are Grandpa, who thinks it's brainlessly stupid, and Randy Carmichael because of the fact that he has to deal with it day in and day out. However, the babies don't like the Dummi Bears. The babies prefer Reptar. That's why they'll often escape on adventure if they're stuck watching a Dummi Bears movie or cartoon. One episode showed implied that the Dummi Bears served as a form of mind-control on children, compelling them to watch. The ones more easily sucked in to the mind-control are Angelica, who is older than the other babies, and the teenaged babysitter meant to be watching the kids.Taffy. The babies figured out the mind-control and went off on another adventure.



Chuckie seems to like Dummi Bears, not so much Tommy, but Kimi?




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*Or a brother, or nephew.
23rd Jan '16 9:45:04 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Chuckie saw a scene from StephenKing's It.]]

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[[WMG: Chuckie saw a scene from StephenKing's Creator/StephenKing's It.]]
14th Jan '16 7:52:36 AM Redmane
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[[WMG: Rugrats, WesternAnimation/TheWildThornberrys, WesternAnimation/AaahhRealMonsters, WesternAnimation/AsToldByGinger, WesternAnimation/HeyArnold, and WesternAnimation/RocketPower all take place in the same universe]]

Aside from all of them being owned by Klasky-Csupo (minus Arnold), we have had canon evidence that at least Rugrats lives in the same universe as The Whild Thornberrys and Aaah Real Monsters. It's not hard to assume that the other shows are in the same world, based on the similar art styles they have. They also occur more or less in the same time period (90s-early 2000s) and their stories are pretty basic slice-of-life stuff (barring Thornberrys and Monsters, but since they're canon already, we can assume a little bit of magic also takes form in this world), minus some wacky adventures here and there. It's easy to assume at some point the characters all came to a point where they were at a similar age (at least, All Grown Up! would occur at the same time as Ginger).

[[WMG: Charlotte and [[Main/HeyArnold Miriam Pataki]] are sisters]]


They sorta look alike, with the blonde banged hair and all, but also Angelica and Helga are pretty similar personality-wise. Charlotte was the older of the two sisters, and once she turned into the successful businesswoman she is she left her family behind to focus on her new life plus Drew and Angelica. Miriam had some talents here and there, but was always unappreciated by her parents, who much preferred the ambitious Charlotte. Thus, she's stuck to live a life of contempt alongside Big Bob and her "smoothies". It's a nice parallel to Olga and Helga, too.
19th Nov '15 4:38:03 PM nombretomado
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* Also, this is sort of canon, considering the line in one episode of AllGrownUp where Lil said something along the lines of "I wonder what Dil would be like if we hadn't dropped him on his head" while Tommy was spying on them with his digital camera ( ItMakesSenseInContext )

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* Also, this is sort of canon, considering the line in one episode of AllGrownUp ''WesternAnimation/AllGrownUp'' where Lil said something along the lines of "I wonder what Dil would be like if we hadn't dropped him on his head" while Tommy was spying on them with his digital camera ( ItMakesSenseInContext )



[[WMG: All Growed Up is different from ''AllGrownUp'' because that's how the babies wanted to be when they grew up]]

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[[WMG: All Growed Up is different from ''AllGrownUp'' ''WesternAnimation/AllGrownUp'' because that's how the babies wanted to be when they grew up]]



* {{Jossed}}. In ''WesternAnimation/RugratsInParis'' Stu mentions that it's a new century and it features songs from the late 90s, early 2000s. He even sets Chuckie's dad up on an internet dating site. In a FreezeFrameBonus in the passport montage, it shows that they were issued in the year 2000. Charlotte's cell phones evolve into ones from the year the episode was produced as the series go on, i.e. a brick sized one in the early 1990s, a flip phone with an antenna in the late 90s, etc. AllGrownUp may be a TimeSkip or take place in the late 2000s.

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* {{Jossed}}. In ''WesternAnimation/RugratsInParis'' Stu mentions that it's a new century and it features songs from the late 90s, early 2000s. He even sets Chuckie's dad up on an internet dating site. In a FreezeFrameBonus in the passport montage, it shows that they were issued in the year 2000. Charlotte's cell phones evolve into ones from the year the episode was produced as the series go on, i.e. a brick sized one in the early 1990s, a flip phone with an antenna in the late 90s, etc. AllGrownUp ''WesternAnimation/AllGrownUp'' may be a TimeSkip or take place in the late 2000s.
19th Nov '15 4:26:02 PM nombretomado
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* {{Jossed}}. In RugratsInParis Stu mentions that it's a new century and it features songs from the late 90s, early 2000s. He even sets Chuckie's dad up on an internet dating site. In a FreezeFrameBonus in the passport montage, it shows that they were issued in the year 2000. Charlotte's cell phones evolve into ones from the year the episode was produced as the series go on, i.e. a brick sized one in the early 1990s, a flip phone with an antenna in the late 90s, etc. AllGrownUp may be a TimeSkip or take place in the late 2000s.

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* {{Jossed}}. In RugratsInParis ''WesternAnimation/RugratsInParis'' Stu mentions that it's a new century and it features songs from the late 90s, early 2000s. He even sets Chuckie's dad up on an internet dating site. In a FreezeFrameBonus in the passport montage, it shows that they were issued in the year 2000. Charlotte's cell phones evolve into ones from the year the episode was produced as the series go on, i.e. a brick sized one in the early 1990s, a flip phone with an antenna in the late 90s, etc. AllGrownUp may be a TimeSkip or take place in the late 2000s.
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