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* Maybe an unknown-to-us defense system was able to deflect the black hole away once it came between the Ringworld and the sun (after making Fist-of-God). The PowersThatBe had detected the black hole coming and were ready for it, but couldn't deflect it until after it impacted. The creation of the mountain was an acceptable loss.

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* Maybe an unknown-to-us defense system was able to deflect the black hole away once it came between the Ringworld and the sun (after making Fist-of-God). The PowersThatBe had detected the black hole coming and were ready for it, but couldn't deflect it until after it impacted. The creation of the mountain was an acceptable loss.loss.
* Deflecting the course of a small black hole using carefully prepared equipment is not impossible in the 'Known Space' setting; there's a Beowulf Shaeffer story where he encounters a man who is doing exactly that. Nevertheless... strictly, no defense system would be required. The black hole may have been moving fast enough that it was well above solar escape velocity. If so, it could have come in on a hyperbolic trajectory, crashed through the Ringworld, and kept going back out into interstellar space without ever slowing down enough to be captured by the gravity of the sun. Think of the asteroid Oumuamua, sighted in 2017, which came from interstellar space and quickly returned to it.
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* Maybe an unknown-to-us defense system was able to deflect the black hole away once it came between the Ringworld and the sun (after making Fist-of-God). The PowersThatBe had detected the black hole coming and were ready for it, but couldn't deflect it until after it impacted. The creation of the mountain was an acceptable loss.
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* Maybe an unknown-to-us defense system was able to deflect the black hole away once it came between the Ringworld and the sun (after making Fist-of-God). The PowersThatBe had detected the black hole coming and were ready for it, but couldn't deflect it until after it impacted. The creation of the mountain was an acceptable loss.
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** Bram tells the whole story if he can be believed. Bram knew the impact was coming and knew the reigning proto-goul protector would go to the repair center to stop it so he and Anne waited in ambush there and killed him. Then he found nothing to indicate how the proto-goul protector was going to stop it and he had to let it happen. Bram was not the smartest of protectors so he may be regarded as an unreliable narrator even if he did not lie.
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It passed through and continued to pull the scrith "upwards" as it did so. There's the issue of the black hole going into that sun - maybe it didn't have time to do much damage before the Ringworld left that solar system all together.
* Maybe an unknown-to-us defense system was able to deflect the black hole away once it came between the ringwold and the sun (after making Fist-of-God) The PowersThatBe had detected the black hole coming and were ready for it, but couldn't deflect it until after it impacted. The creation of the mountain was an acceptable loss.

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It passed through and continued to pull the scrith "upwards" as it did so. There's the issue of the black hole going into that sun - maybe it didn't have time to do much damage before the Ringworld left that solar system all together.
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* Maybe an unknown-to-us defense system was able to deflect the black hole away once it came between the ringwold Ringworld and the sun (after making Fist-of-God) Fist-of-God). The PowersThatBe had detected the black hole coming and were ready for it, but couldn't deflect it until after it impacted. The creation of the mountain was an acceptable loss.
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*** It's throne. I remember now. Louis and the others met Bram in Throne, then Bram was replaced by Tunesmith, who became the boss in Children.

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*** It's throne.Throne. I remember now. Louis and the others met Bram in Throne, then Bram was replaced by Tunesmith, who became the boss in Children.



** It's also necessary that it be that size, if it's to exist at all. If it was smaller, all the air would have been lost and nothing would be living on Ringworld. The smaller punctures are problematic, unless they are all very, very recent; while the Ringworld is foogin' huge, how long would it take even a small puncture to drain all the air away, let alone many of them. As to how the City Builders would have used it, they wouldn't. They had the 'walk through walls' device that let them walk through the scrith to the spaceports outside.

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** It's also necessary that it be that size, if it's to exist at all. If it was smaller, all the air would have been lost and nothing would be living on Ringworld. The smaller punctures are problematic, unless they are all very, very recent; while the Ringworld is foogin' huge, how long would it take even a small puncture to drain all the air away, let alone many of them. them? As to how the City Builders would have used it, they wouldn't. They had the 'walk through walls' device that let them walk through the scrith to the spaceports outside.
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* It could have been artificially created, but not by the Pak. In the first book Louis cannot find Fist-Of-God in the map room they discover, because the map room is replaying old recordings from when City-Builder civilization was at it's highest. Presumably Fist-Of-God was created after that recording but before the fall of the City-Builders and their exodus into space with 95% of the attitude jets. I do agree that it is a little too convenient to be random (random results in the punctures that create eye-storms).
* Actually I think in "Ringworld Engineers" the Vampire protector - Bram wasn't it? - admitted to being the one to create Fist-Of-God mountain. I forget the page number, but what happened was that he'd awoken as a protector, found his way to the room, and killed the protector that was already there. The asteroid came before Bram knew how to run the solar gun, so he wasn't able to destroy it.

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* It could have been artificially created, but not by the Pak. In the first book Louis cannot find Fist-Of-God in the map room they discover, because the map room is replaying old recordings from when City-Builder civilization was at it's its highest. Presumably Fist-Of-God was created after that recording but before the fall of the City-Builders and their exodus into space with 95% of the attitude jets. I do agree that it is a little too convenient to be random (random results in the punctures that create eye-storms).
* Actually I think in "Ringworld Engineers" the Vampire protector - Bram Bram, wasn't it? - admitted to being the one to create Fist-Of-God mountain. I forget the page number, but what happened was that he'd awoken as a protector, found his way to the room, and killed the protector that was already there. The asteroid came before Bram knew how to run the solar gun, so he wasn't able to destroy it.



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* Maybe an unknown-to-us defense system was able to deflect the black hole away once it came between the ringwold and the sun (after making Fist-of-God) The PowersThatBe had detected the black hole coming and were ready for it, but couldn't deflect it until after it impacted. The creating of the mountain was an acceptable loss.

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* Maybe an unknown-to-us defense system was able to deflect the black hole away once it came between the ringwold and the sun (after making Fist-of-God) The PowersThatBe had detected the black hole coming and were ready for it, but couldn't deflect it until after it impacted. The creating creation of the mountain was an acceptable loss.
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* Maybe an unknown-to-us defense system was able to deflect the black hole away once it came between the ringwold and the sun (after making Fist-of-God) The PowersThatBe had detected the black hole coming and were ready for it, but couldn't deflect it until after it impacted.

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* Maybe an unknown-to-us defense system was able to deflect the black hole away once it came between the ringwold and the sun (after making Fist-of-God) The PowersThatBe had detected the black hole coming and were ready for it, but couldn't deflect it until after it impacted. The creating of the mountain was an acceptable loss.
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* Maybe an unknown-to-us defense system was able to deflect the black hole away once it came between the ringwold and the sun (after making Fist-of-God) The PowersThatBe had detected the black hole coming and were ready for it, but couldn't deflect it until after it impacted.
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[[WMG: Fist-of-God was not created by an asteroid, but a small black hole.]]
It passed through and continued to pull the scrith "upwards" as it did so. There's the issue of the black hole going into that sun - maybe it didn't have time to do much damage before the Ringworld left that solar system all together.
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Louis speculated that "the puppeteers bred like digger wasps: their progeny ate the flesh of a helpless host." Some readers have criticized the idea that a herbivorous species would go through a carnivorous stage in their life cycle. So what if it's not actually the host's flesh that the fetus is eating? Suppose all sex for puppeteers is oral: the two "males" deposit their gametes down each of the throats of the "female"/host, and fertilization occurs in the host's stomach. The fetus then absorbs nutrients from the plant matter that the host eats, causing the host to slowly die of malnutrition. When development is complete, the infant uses his hind leg to [[{{Chestburster}} kick a hole through his mother's abdomen]] and emerge. This also explains why sane puppeteers are reluctant to kick with their hind leg as a means of self-defense: they consider it to be obscene.

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Louis speculated that "the puppeteers bred like digger wasps: their progeny ate the flesh of a helpless host." Some readers have criticized the idea that a herbivorous species would go through a carnivorous stage in their life cycle. So what if it's not actually the host's flesh that the fetus is eating? Suppose all sex for puppeteers is oral: the two "males" deposit their gametes down each of the throats of the "female"/host, and fertilization occurs in the host's stomach. The fetus then absorbs continues to develop in the stomach, absorbing nutrients from the plant matter that the host eats, causing the host to slowly die of malnutrition. When development gestation is complete, the infant uses his hind leg to [[{{Chestburster}} kick a hole through his mother's abdomen]] and emerge. This also explains why sane puppeteers are reluctant to kick with their hind leg as a means of self-defense: they consider it to be obscene.
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Louis speculated that "the puppeteers bred like digger wasps: their progeny ate the flesh of a helpless host." Some readers have criticized the idea that a herbivorous species would go through a carnivorous stage in their life cycle. So what if it's not actually the host's flesh that the fetus is eating? Suppose all sex for puppeteers is oral: the two "males" deposit their gametes down each of the throats of the "female"/host, and fertilization occurs in the host's stomach. The fetus then absorbs nutrients from the plant matter that the host eats, causing the host to slowly die of malnutrition. When development is complete, the infant uses his hind leg to [[{{Chestburster}} kick a hole through his mother's abdomen]] and emerge. This also explains why sane puppeteers are reluctant to kick with their hind leg as a means of self-defense: they consider it to be obscene.
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** It's also necessary that it be that size, if it's to exist at all. If it was smaller, all the air would have been lost and nothing would be living on Ringworld. The smaller punctures are problematic, unless they are all very, very recent; while the Ringworld is foogin' huge, how long would it take even a small puncture to drain all the air away, let alone many of them. As to how the City Builders would have used it, they wouldn't. They had the 'walk through walls' device that let them walk through the scrith to the spaceports outside.
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*** It's throne. I remember now. Louis and the others met Bram in Throne, then Bram was replaced by Tunesmith, who became the boss in Children.
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** Not Engineers- Teela's the only protector on-screen in that one. Throne, maybe? Donno- I've only read the first two.
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* It's nowhere near "just exactly the right height" to avoid spilling atmosphere. It's something like an order of magnitude higher than that. The thing is bleedin' ''enormous''.
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* Actually I think in "Ringworld Engineers" the Vampire protector - Bram wasn't it? - admitted to being the one to create Fist-Of-God mountain. I forget the page number, but what happened was that he'd awoken as a protector, found his way to the room, and killed the protector that was already there. The asteroid came before Bram knew how to run the solar gun, so he wasn't able to destroy it.
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* It could have been artificially created, but not by the Pak. In the first book Louis cannot find Fist-Of-God in the map room they discover, because the map room is replaying old recordings from when City-Builder civilization was at it's highest. Presumably Fist-Of-God was created after that recording but before the fall of the City-Builders and their exodus into space with 95% of the attitude jets. I do agree that it is a little too convenient to be random (random results in the punctures that create eye-storms).
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* The impact wouldn't have knocked the Ringworld into the sun if it happened before the City Builders took apart the attitude jets to build ramships.

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