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* Jossed.
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[[WMG: [=RDR2=] will include a camel as a joke mount.]]
[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Camel_Corps#Aftermath A reference to this.]] The rider will always complain about the hump hurting his, ehm, valuables because of the trepidation, and say that he'd rather ride a horse.
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[[WMG: [=RDR2=] will include a camel as a joke mount.]]
[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Camel_Corps#Aftermath A reference to this.]] The rider will always complain about the hump hurting his, ehm, valuables because of the trepidation, and say that he'd rather ride a horse.
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[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Camel_Corps#Aftermath A reference to this.]] The rider will always complain about the hump hurting his, ehm, valuables because of the trepidation, and say that he'd rather ride a horse.
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[[WMG:Jack was DrivenToSuicide shortly after killing Ross]]
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[[WMG:Jack founded the [[VideoGame/{{Hitman}} International Contract Agency]]]]
[[WMG:Jack founded the [[VideoGame/{{Hitman}} International Contract Agency]]]]
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But Clara ''was'' lying about being a servant of his. She was actually a prostitute at a nearby brothel that he frequented. He hired her services, got her pregnant and refused to support her or the child, and so Clara had him targeted and killed in revenge. It explains why Clara set John after Harold specifically and took such brutal satisfaction in his death, but also why neither Harold nor his wife recognised her as a former servant of theirs. It's notable that Clara is dressed similarly to the prostitutes who appear throughout the game, and she naturally spun John the story of being a wronged and abandoned serving girl taken advantage of by her employers because she assumed he'd find that more sympathetic than her being a prostitute who accidentally got knocked up during an evening's work.
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But Clara ''was'' lying about being a servant of his. She was actually a prostitute at a nearby brothel that he frequented. He hired her services, got her pregnant and refused to support her or the child, and so Clara had him targeted and killed in revenge. It explains why Clara set John after Harold specifically and took such brutal satisfaction in his death, but also why neither Harold nor his wife recognised her as a former servant of theirs. It's notable that Clara is dressed similarly to the prostitutes who appear throughout the game, and she naturally spun John the story of being a wronged and abandoned serving girl taken advantage of by her employers because she assumed he'd find that more sympathetic than her being a prostitute who accidentally got knocked up during an evening's work.work.
[[WMG:Abigail was DrivenToSuicide after John's death]]
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[[WMG:John is the son of {{Wolverine}}.ComicBook/{{Wolverine}}.]]
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** If anything, Ross would have emphasized with John [[spoiler: ''after'' having him killed. By the time Jack catches up with him in "Remember My Family", he's tried time and time again to retire and spend his remaining years with his family, but the government keeps pulling him back in for work. Perhaps under his snide "He killed himself with the life he lived" exterior, Ross realized [[NotSoDifferent the similarities between his situation and what he put John through]], and maybe even emphasized with him after the fact. He ''does'' threaten to kill Jack as well, but to be fair, by that point in the conversation it's pretty clear that Jack is there to put a bullet ([[NoKillLikeOverkill or 16]]) in his head.]]
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** If anything, Ross would have emphasized with John [[spoiler: ''after'' having him killed. By the time Jack catches up with him in "Remember My Family", he's tried time and time again to retire and spend his remaining years with his family, but the government keeps pulling him back in for work. Perhaps under his snide "He killed himself with the life he lived" exterior, Ross realized [[NotSoDifferent the similarities between his situation and what he put John through]], through, and maybe even emphasized with him after the fact. He ''does'' threaten to kill Jack as well, but to be fair, by that point in the conversation it's pretty clear that Jack is there to put a bullet ([[NoKillLikeOverkill or 16]]) in his head.]]
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* Confirmed, VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2 says hi, although John's daughter is still a no show.
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* Confirmed, VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2 ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2'' says hi, although John's daughter is still a no show.
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* Jossed.
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* Confirmed, VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2 says hi, although John's daughter is still a no show.
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** Semi-jossed: ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2'' is a prequel, but it takes place years earlier with Arthur Morgan as the protagonist.
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* Perhaps he ''was'' genuine about leaving John and his family be, even if he himself didn't like the guy. [[spoiler: Again, if he really wanted him dead, why not kill him after Dutch's death? My thinking is, the man who signed John's death warrant wasn't Ross, but Governer Nate Johns, who was set on eliminating the west's outlaws... all of them. When Gov. Johns got word that one of the outlaws was still alive, he ordered him killed, and knowing that John would be a very dangerous foe, sent the Army. As for Ross, he was willing to let John be and move on to "somebody else to annoy", and even if he'd never admit it, he may have realized that John was truly reformed and therefore harmless. But when Gov. Johns brought the hammer down (and maybe even raked Ross's ass over the coals for sparing John), he wasn't opposed to it, as again, the idea of a former outlaw like John getting off scott free disgusted him. In the end, this makes Jack's murder of Ross and rejection of everything his father wanted him to be even more tragic. Ross may have been completely unapologetic and of the mindset that John had it coming, but he wasn't really the mastermind of John's death. All Jack did was murder Gov. Johns' toy soldier.]]
