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8th Dec '17 2:13:12 PM readrunners
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[[WMG: Pekoms won't be allowed back in the Big Mom Pirates.]]
At least Tamago seems to believe Bege was right for doing what he did, so things aren't looiking too good for him. I don't know if Big Mom is more forgiving towards higher-ranked members (As in "I can tolerate fucking up once, but don't fuck up twice", or something), so he might just get demoted, but he could also be plain kicked out of the crew for failing his assignment and letting his personal feelings get in the way.
* I'll back you up on this. The fact that he's, um, you know... ''sailing with enemies right to his boss's location'' is probably not going to sit very well with Big Mom.
* Tamago seems to think that he might be able to beg Big Mom to take him back when he finds out that Pekoms survived being shot on Zou.
* Looking doubtful since [[spoiler: Bege plans to attack Big Mom while Pekoms is still loyal to her]].
* Jossed for now. The other members acknowledge him as one of their own when he meets up with them again.



[[WMG: The Sanji Retrieval Arc will be a kind of mirror to the Dressrosa Arc]]
Because not only are the Straw Hats that are in this arc happen to be the other half of the crew + Luffy but they even have three non-nakama along for the ride. Two Mink warriors instead of samurai and a friendly but not all that pleased guide to the next island (Law). As such the crew will take on roles that were taken by their Dressrosa compatriots i.e. Monster: Sanji-Zoro East Blue Coward: Nami-Usopp, Expostion of Story Elements: Brook-Franky, Support: Chopper-Robin.
My predictions:
1. Sanji, like Zoro will show off his most powerful techniques in order to defeat Big Mom's "powerhouse" character (possibly one of his brothers or Tamago.
2. Brook will instead of being given the overarching exposition reveal information about the Germa 66 and possibly other hints about the Vinsmokes, he might even know Grandpa or Grandma Vinsmoke personally.
3. Nami will awaken her haki in a tight spot (not certain what tight spot but you can bet there'll be one or two).
4. Luffy will fight the Big Bad, which won't be LinLin but rather Papa Vinsmoke.
And 5. Pekoms won't outright defeat Bege (he is a supernova after all) but his fight and other factors will inspire Big Mom to leave the Straw Hats be for the time being, until Kaidou has been sorted out (the prick).
That's all, obviously the themes and the mission itself will unravel in a different fashion to Mingo's death game but I think this arc is designed to give the other crew members an opportunity for growth, particularly Nami and Brook as Chopper got a lot of attention in the Punk Hazard and Zou arcs for his doctoring.
* Jossed. There's probably ''some'' similarities between Whole Cake and Dressrosa in there somewhere, but none of these things ended up happening.




[[WMG: Yonji will also be voiced by Hiroaki Hirata.]]
Considering he looks so similar to his big bro, it would make sense for them to share voice actors, or at least have similar-sounding voices.
* Jossed, Yonji's VA is Kenjiro Tsuda.



[[WMG: Totland serves solely to satisfy Big Mom's hunger ]]
Purin is very mistaken about the 'utopia' her mother created - each and every island in Totland exist only for sweets production purposes or as an emergency supply to stall her from destroying everything on her path. That's why Big Mom (or in reality, her children who run the government of the country) invite people from all over the world as they bring different recipes with them. This is their gambit for survival, as when Big Mom's tantrum happens (asking for some ridiculous sweet), someone may actually have recipe for that.
** Or it might exist to satisfy her hunger in a different [[ImAHumanitarian way]].
** Jossed. Linlin also genuinely wants to obtain power and become the Pirate King (Queen?), so it's likely that she didn't make Totland ''solely'' for her hunger.

[[WMG: Totland's government is run by Big Mom's children]]
With the eldest being a de facto president. Because their mom is so deranged, someone has to do the proper job of managing the country.
** When Big Mom realises that, she will be so enraged she will attempt to kill all of her children.
** Jossed. Crazy as she is, it's made perfectly clear later on that she still manages her country and crew herself. She does, however, have a lot of her kids working in her government.

[[WMG: Big Mom has been alive for a very, very long time]]
Her Devil Fruit ability seems to give her the power to take away or give away "life". So, maybe she's been stealing people's lifespans and adding them to herself for a long time. That's how she was able to progressively rise to the rank of an Emperor and it's why she's been able to have so many kids and husbands.
* It's been said, however, that she can't add the souls to "a living human body". Whether that applies to herself though has yet to be seen.
* The lady has got 84 offspring, a human lifespan doesn't allow for that.
** Although she could be a giant, they can live for up to 300 years and no-one has confirmed her race.
* Jossed, she's only 68 years old, as revealed in an SBS.




[[WMG: The fights in the Totland arc will be like in Enies lobby over handcuff keys]]
I find it doubtful that Luffy is going to fight Big Mom at this point so it's more likely Jajji will be the final boss and considering Sanji is in handcuffs they are going to have to release him from them so his siblings probably each will have a key.
* Jossed, [[spoiler: The cuffs are fake so no such thing will transpire]].



[[WMG: Capone will eventually get a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment if not a genuine HeelFaceTurn]]
We've seen that not only he's married one of Big Mom's daughters during the timeskip, they even have a baby. In his current mindset, Capone may see him as just another means to an end, further strengthening his ties with Big Mom and reinforcing himself. After a (predictable) failure against the Straw Hats, however, Big Mom will be furious and that will put even the baby's life in jeopardy, with Capone realizing he put even the life of his infant son behind his hunger for power.
* Well, turns out later that he's [[spoiler: been planning to kill Big Mom anyway since he married Chiffon so time will tell]].
* Jossed. That's not really how things are. As mentioned, he was always planning to kill Big Mom and Chiffon was always in on it. He also has always genuinely loved his son.

[[WMG: Luffy is the reason Jinbe didn't break out from Big Mom]]
Disclaimer : I found this theory on a forum. Instead of his life or his body part, Big Mom is actually asking Luffy as a price if Jinbe tried to get out from her crew.
* Jossed, he knew that the wheel would be fatal so he turned it down and just betrayed her anyway.



[[WMG: Upon the Vinsmokes' defeat...]]
* Big Mom will call the wedding off when she sees the Vinsmokes defeated by the Straw Hat Pirates, deeming them as having become too weak to be of much use because some upstart pirate crew who hadn't even existed for three years takes them down. In addition, Big Mom may feel insulted if she ever finds out that Judge has chosen to marry off Sanji because he is Judge's least important child, as she'll interpret this decision as Judge trivializing her. However, this does not end the conflict with Big Mom, because now she'll have her eyes on the ''Straw Hat Pirates'' instead. She may even still be interested in Sanji, only now as a Straw Hat Pirate rather than a Vinsmoke.
** Jossed due to the set up being inaccurate; [[spoiler: Big Mom was never planning on allying with the Vinsmokes. She plans to kill ''all'' of them, including Sanji.]]



[[WMG: Sanji'and his brothers are clones]]
The only original one is Reiju. Jajji wanted sons (he called his daughter 0 like - 'you don't count and all') so he cloned all four of them OR...
* Jossed; all [[spoiler: 5 Vinsmoke children were, however, genetically enhanced.]]

[[WMG: 3 out of 4 Vinsmoke sons are clones]]
And only one of them (probably Sanji) is the original one.
* Jossed; all [[spoiler: 5 Vinsmoke children were, however, genetically enhanced.]]
** So far, beside the fact they were all subjected to genetic enhancements, there's nothing really telling us how the quadruplets were born, either naturally or artificially. Of note is that when discussing about the kids's training results, the scientists mentions only the boys and not Reiju.



[[WMG: The Vinsmoke quadruplets are not younger brothers of Reiju, but her clones]]
Judge's wife wasn't a woman he loved, but just a "best match" on a genetic level. However, after she gave birth to a girl, something happened (she died? She became unable to have more children? She escaped?) and Judge was left with no other chance to have the "perfect" son he wanted naturally. So he decided to have Reiju's DNA worked on and, to stay safe, to have more than one gender-swapped clone of her produced. While Reiju was later genetically enhanced like her brothers/clones and got the same training as them to be a future leader, she is secretly resentful for being considered inferior only because she was born female, right from her own name.
* Pretty much Jossed, although not quite yet... their mother was still alive when her sons were around so it's much more likely that she gave birth to them naturally.
* For sure Jossed by chapter 852, as Reiju recalls her mother's pregnancy. Also, seeing as how their mother had the gall to challenge Judge on the modifications, it would seem she wasn't just some sort of slave.



[[WMG: Reiju will ''not'' pull a HeelFaceTurn in the Totland Arc]]
She obviously isn't a bad person at heart, but I don't think she'll go so far as to turn on her family and help the Straw Hats right at this moment. She's morally complex for sure, but I believe she's so indoctrinated into the Vinsmoke's way of life that it'll take her a bit longer to switch sides at this point. I do expect her to be an ally at some point though.
* Jossed, she effectively switches sides by chapter 852.






[[WMG: Sanji's cause of defection is because of a woman hostage]]
* Sanji should have known Strawhats are strong enough to go against the world, unlike Robin, he wouldn't worry about the safety of the crew. Even with his hand at risk, it shouldn't be enough reason to defect from strawhats.
* Germa had, in fact, threatened Sanji with the safety Baratie and Zeff. This is already strong enough reason for Sanji to obeyed them, but we still see him struggled for few chapters before he changed his mind.
* I propose that, a better 'hostage' for Sanji, even more than Zeff and Baratie, would be... a woman. It doesn't actually matter who, since Zeff himself would have kicked him if he dared to risked the safety of a woman. If Sanji saw this woman being threatened in front of his eyes, he had no choice but to obey.
** Bonus point if it were just a random, helpless civilian like the servant who served Germa. Cosette?
** Or maybe Purin, if Germa revealed they planned to backstab Big Mom and this girl might be threatened unless Sanji willing to go with the plan.
** Alternatively it was Reiju. This is because he owed her, and because Reiju herself might told to act as a hostage by the Germa. Sanji figured that out, but he still obeyed because he can't lose her. If it was a random civilian, or even Nami herself, Sanji could just ask the strawhats to help release the girl instead. Unless he was delaying time.
** Jossed, there's nothing to suggest there's some woman he came there to save.



[[WMG: Judge is actually trying take over Totland in a coup]]
I can't really buy that a power hungry sociopath like Judge is ''actually'' ok with being sorta-kinda subordinate to Big Mom (say what you want about this "alliance", but she obviously has more power than him in this arrangement). There's no way he wants to share any of his resources with her. He claimed he needed the alliance because her resources combined with his would make him able to easily take the North Blue. So... he doesn't need ''her'', just her power. I bet he's planning on taking her resources as his own. And just look at his character. He's so arrogant that I imagine he believes he's perfectly capable of defeating Big Mom.
** We can't say for certain that he's planning on taking over Totland, but we now know that [[spoiler:Big Mom is going to attempt to kill ''him'' and his family to take their technological prowess.]]
* Jossed. He sat calmly at his table at the wedding and was about to be killed if it weren't for Sanji's intervention, which would suggest that he had no such plan.

[[WMG: Ichiji is an item with Pudding and they're planning on betraying their families]]
What if Ichiji and Pudding already met somewhere/know each other, are a couple, and brought up the idea of this alliance to their parents for the sake of seizing power from both of them? We actually don't know much about Ichiji yet but he seems like a cunning guy.
** Seems to be jossed.



[[WMG: Nami will control Zeus and Prometheus and annihilate the enraged army]]
Since Zeus and Prometheus are homies and Big Mom's not present, Nami should be able to save her and Luffy's hides by using the Vivre Card to force them to burn/shock the enraged army.
* Jossed. She apparently did control the thunderclouds that Zeus and Prometheus created, but not the Homies themselves. And she though she ''did'' manage to take out a lot of the grunt soldiers with a lightning bolt, the stronger ones easily survived and captured both her and Luffy.
* Funnily enough though, she does eventually do exactly this against another group of Big Mom's thugs.



[[WMG: Pudding is either a TimeMaster or has some sort of RealityWarper powers]]
Those weird clocks on the trees in the Seducing Woods were products of Pudding's Devil Fruit, as are all the clocks inside her home on cacao island.
* Jossed, she has the power of memory manipulation.



[[WMG: Pudding plans on attacking Big Mom/starting a ruckus at the wedding]]
This is the only thing she could've said aside from suicide or running away that I think would've cause Nami and Luffy's strong reactions. Don't have any idea how this would pan out since we've yet to see her have any combat capabilities- plus the massive odds against her- but just throwing it out there.
* The "attacking Big Mom" part is Jossed, but the "starting a ruckus" part, in that she [[spoiler:plans on killing Sanji.]]
* I'll just put this in Jossed because my intent with my ruckus guess was that she'd be doing it to ''save'' Sanji, not kill him.



[[WMG: Caponee Bege was one who attacked Reiju]]
Perhaps she overheard something she wasn't supposed to and Bege attempted to kill her. The castle she was limping around may also be Bege's body.
** [[spoiler:Jossed -- she was attacked by Pudding.]]

[[WMG: Pudding plans to kill Big Mom on the day of her wedding and by doing so end up as her successor on the Totland throne.]]
The poor girl knows that running isn´t an option (Lola) and suicide will just put one of her half-sisters up on the altar instead, so the only way to save the Straw Hats and Sanji from this mess, will be to kill Big Mom and make sure that she´s dead with zero chances of survival in order to avoid retribution from the mad Yonko...
If she succeeds, then she´ll have to avoid the wrath of Germa 66 and Judge who only went along with the whole thing to get the support needed for his plans. Without Big Mom, that falls flat. Either Sanji will have to step in and deliver a long overdue vengeance on his brothers and father in order to save Pudding.
Also, extra thought, if she makes it through this then Pudding might end up becoming the next leader for Totland and add the former Big Mom´s crew on to the Straw Hat fleet, while also ending up as a case of StarCrossedLovers for Sanji as he goes with the crew on adventure and she has to stay behind to manage the new kingdom that fallen under her responsibility. The engagement might still be a thing, but it become a genuine one instead and at the end of the series, they get married for real.

Just a theory
* Jossed. [[spoiler:Pudding ''does'' plan on killing someone, but it's ''Sanji'', as well as the entire Vinsmoke family.]]




[[WMG: Sanji, on the day of the wedding, is going to try one final move and take Pudding hostage on the altar.]]
And he´s going to use the bombs strapped to his wrists to do it. As the saying goes..."The most dangerous man in the world is not the one who lost it all, but the one with nothing left to lose."
He know he´s a dead man walking, so at least he might try to bargain with his and Pudding´s lives for the sake of sparing the Straw Hats and his family from Big Mom´s ploy. After all, Pudding is her mother´s "favorite girl". Even if Big Mom don´t mind if her daughter dies, Pudding most certainly do if she does. She might even try and help Sanji and the Straw Hats to escape for the sake of keeping her head still in one piece and not splattered all over the walls.
Whatever if it works or not is up to debate though.
* Jossed. [[spoiler: He ''does'' actually try "one final move", but it was breaking through Pudding's tough exterior, not taking her hostage.



24th Nov '17 5:26:21 AM WhiteBirdy
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** And now [[spoiler: ''all'' of the brothers are allies!]] So in a strange way, this ended up being true.
24th Nov '17 5:22:12 AM WhiteBirdy
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** Once Whitebeard died, the fruit would have spawned nearby, duh. Blackbeard did the sensible thing and brought a crate of fruits with him. Hell, if he does have some magical absorbing ability, bringing a crate of fruit is just pure logic. It's a war, lots of devil fruit users were gonna die. Easiest way to get a hold of bunch of devil fruits ever. So easy that blackbeard doesn't want other people to copy him, hence the blanket as a smokescreen. Like when Luffy went back to marineford, everyone were wondering the meaning of ringing the bell 48 times, when in reality the tattoo was what mattered.

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** Once Whitebeard died, the fruit would have spawned nearby, duh. Blackbeard did the sensible thing and brought a crate of fruits with him. Hell, even if he does have some magical absorbing ability, bringing a crate of fruit is just pure logic. It's a war, lots of devil fruit users were gonna die. Easiest way to get a hold of bunch of devil fruits ever. So easy that blackbeard doesn't want other people to copy him, hence the blanket as a smokescreen. Like when Luffy went back to marineford, everyone were wondering the meaning of ringing the bell 48 times, when in reality the tattoo was what mattered.
17th Nov '17 3:21:32 PM WhiteBirdy
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** Once Whitebeard died, the fruit would have spawned nearby, duh. Blackbeard did the sensible thing and brought a crate of fruits with him. Hell, if he does have some magical absorbing ability, bringing a crate of fruit is just pure logic. It's a war, lots of devil fruit users were gonna die. Easiest way to get a hold of bunch of devil fruits ever. So easy that blackbeard doesn't want other people to copy him, hence the blanket as a smokescreen. Like when Luffy went back to marineford, everyone were wondering the meaning of ringing the bell 48 times, when in reality the tattoo was what mattered.
22nd Sep '17 7:19:06 AM mhj0808
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* Seeing as how the Mochi Mochi no mi (Katakuri's fruit) is being built up as "Luffy's, but better" (especially in chapter 879) I'm gonna go ahead and say this is basically Confirmed. Katakrui's fruit was [[Retcon retconned]] into a Paramecia as well, making it even more likely it could be considered the Gum Gum fruit's superior.
24th Aug '17 10:28:04 AM mhj0808
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[[WMG:Purin will join the Straw Hats (or the Grand Fleet)]]
She'll fall in love with Sanji, but realize that there's no way to convince Sanji to stay with her. So she'll take another option; if she can't convince Sanji to stay, she will either go with him so they can remain together, or join the Grand Fleet so they can leave on good terms but still see each other again from time to time.
** Completely and entirely Jossed: [[spoiler:As of chapter 850, Pudding has revealed herself to be just as sadistic as her mother, if not more than her, by harming Reiju and declaring her intentions to murder her, Sanji, the rest of the Vinsmokes, and the Straw Hats.]]




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* Jossed for now. The other members acknowledge him as one of their own when he meets up with them again.





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\n* Jossed. There's probably ''some'' similarities between Whole Cake and Dressrosa in there somewhere, but none of these things ended up happening.





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* Possibly Jossed. Details are scarce at the moment, but Judge mentioned something about the Germa ruling over the North Blue for only "66 short days", so it's possible that's where the name really comes from.




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* Jossed for sure now. Pudding eventually firmly commits to Sanji.




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* Jossed. That's not really how things are. As mentioned, he was always planning to kill Big Mom and Chiffon was always in on it. He also has always genuinely loved his son.




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** Jossed, Ichiji's powers (if they're even from a Devil Fruit at all) revolve around fireworks. Also, his epithet is "Sparking" red, not sparkling. No L.





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\n* Confirmed, though in a different scenario. He directly blocks an attack from Big Mom (alongside Luffy) that was meant for Reiju.





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* Funnily enough though, she does eventually do exactly this against another group of Big Mom's thugs.




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* While this is still technically jossed, for what it's worth, later on she does indeed turn on Big Mom for real.






Bitch and Asshole, the ultimate bombastic couple. I support this guess by Ichiji's [[http://www.manga3.net/Reader/One_Piece_839_11#gohere comment]] and Pudding's recent [[http://www.manga3.net/Reader/One_Piece_851_7#gohere rant]] (middle panel)


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Bitch and Asshole, the ultimate bombastic couple. I support this guess by Ichiji's [[http://www.manga3.net/Reader/One_Piece_839_11#gohere comment]] and Pudding's recent [[http://www.manga3.net/Reader/One_Piece_851_7#gohere rant]] (middle panel)

panel).
* Seems Jossed. She falls for Sanji himself for real eventually. Even though it's technically still possible, I doubt Oda would go there at this point.

23rd Aug '17 5:36:39 PM td1989
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** Robin's father, whose legacy was continued by Olivia.

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** Robin's father, whose legacy was continued by Olivia.Olvia.




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** Seems to be jossed.




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** Seems that it is unjossed now.
6th Jul '17 11:53:51 PM zonezeroh
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*** The point of this WMG is that Judge has the same eyebrow as Sanji, since Judge lost his helmet in the latest chapter we will know soon enough. I personally believe this to be the case, Judge to me is a character much more complex than what was shown on the surface, his talk of a 300 hundred years dream/grudge of his people tells me that his ambition was not his alone, the idea might very well have been beaten into his lineage by his ancestors and pass down from one king to the next through ruthless discipline from father to son. Being a man of a proud lineage yet resort to modifying his children and to achieve their dream must have taken remarkable resolve on his part, maybe his discovery of lineage factors convinced him that his lineage is not the genetic superior that he and his ancestors believed to be, then he convinced himself that sacrificing everything: emotions, morals, and even their very lineage is the only way they will come out on top in this world ruled by the strong, thus the Vinsmokes swallow their pride as rulers, work as assassins and dogs of war, walking the earth with no land to call their own, even changing who they are through modification and cloning to bide time and gather strength to one day regain what they've lost. Being heavily modified, it is very possible that the other Vinsmoke children resemble Judge, a man of pure blood, less and less, while Sanji, by the merit of being unaltered, look closest to Judge. This would also explain why Judge hates Sanji so much, for Sanji is the symbol of the sacrifice Judge had chosen to make, not only that but Sanji being the weakest of his sibling proved (seemingly) that his bloodline in its purest form is indeed inferior, and that Judge made the right call in sacrificing what he was for his dream. Sanji will prove Judge wrong, not by becoming the strongest of the Vinsmoke line, but by achieving more than his ancestors by holding firm onto his humanity and dream, thus embodying the truest form of strength envisioned in the Vinsmoke's own ideal.

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*** The point of this WMG is that Judge has the same eyebrow as Sanji, since Judge lost his helmet in the latest chapter we will know soon enough. I personally believe this to be the case, Judge to me is a character much more complex than what was shown on the surface, his talk of a 300 hundred years dream/grudge of his people tells me that his ambition was not his alone, the idea might very well have been beaten into his lineage by his ancestors and pass down from one king to the next through ruthless discipline from father to son. Being a man of a proud lineage yet resort to modifying his children and to achieve their dream must have taken remarkable resolve on his part, maybe his discovery of lineage factors convinced him that his lineage is not the genetic superior that he and his ancestors believed to be, then he convinced himself that sacrificing everything: emotions, morals, and even their very lineage is the only way they will come out on top in this world ruled by the strong, thus the Vinsmokes swallow their pride as rulers, work as assassins and dogs of war, walking the earth with no land to call their own, even changing who they are through modification and cloning to bide time and gather strength to one day regain what they've lost. Being heavily modified, it is very possible that the other Vinsmoke children resemble Judge, a man of pure blood, less and less, while Sanji, by the merit of being unaltered, look closest to Judge. This would also explain why Judge hates Sanji so much, for Sanji is the symbol of the sacrifice Judge had chosen to make, not only that but Sanji being the weakest of his sibling proved (seemingly) that his bloodline in its purest form is indeed inferior, and that Judge made the right call in sacrificing what he was for his dream. Sanji will prove Judge wrong, not only by becoming the strongest of the Vinsmoke line, but by achieving more than his ancestors ancestor's vision by holding firm onto his humanity and dream, thus embodying the truest form of strength envisioned in the Vinsmoke's own ideal.
6th Jul '17 6:03:28 PM zonezeroh
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*** The point of this WMG is that Judge has the same eyebrow as Sanji, since Judge lost his helmet in the latest chapter we will know soon enough. I personally believe this to be the case, Judge to me is a character much more complex than what was shown on the surface, his talk of a 300 hundred years dream/grudge of his people tells me that his ambition was not his alone, hell the idea might have been beaten into his lineage by his ancestors and pass down from one king to the next through ruthless discipline from father to son. Being a man of a proud lineage yet resort to modifying his children to achieve their dream must have taken remarkable resolve on his part, maybe him discovering lineage factor convinced him that his lineage is not the genetic superior that his ancestors convince him to be, that he convinced himself that sacrificing everything: emotions, morals, and even their very lineage is the only way they will come out on top, thus the Vinsmokes swallow their pride as rulers, work as assassins and dogs of war, walking the earth with no land to call their own. Being heavily modified, it is very possible that the other Vinsmoke children resemble Judge, a man of pure blood, less and less, ergo Sanji would by the merit of being unaltered look closest to Judge, this would also explain why Judge hates Sanji so much, for Sanji is the exact symbol of the sacrifice Judge had chosen to make, not only that but Sanji being the weakest of his sibling proved (seemingly) that his bloodline in its purest form is indeed inferior, and that Judge made the right call in sacrificing what he was for his dream. Sanji will prove Judge wrong, not by becoming the strongest of the Vinsmoke line, but by achieving more than his ancestors by holding firm onto his humanity and dream, thus embodying the truest form of strength envisioned in the Vinsmoke's own ideal.

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*** The point of this WMG is that Judge has the same eyebrow as Sanji, since Judge lost his helmet in the latest chapter we will know soon enough. I personally believe this to be the case, Judge to me is a character much more complex than what was shown on the surface, his talk of a 300 hundred years dream/grudge of his people tells me that his ambition was not his alone, hell the idea might very well have been beaten into his lineage by his ancestors and pass down from one king to the next through ruthless discipline from father to son. Being a man of a proud lineage yet resort to modifying his children and to achieve their dream must have taken remarkable resolve on his part, maybe him discovering his discovery of lineage factor factors convinced him that his lineage is not the genetic superior that he and his ancestors convince him believed to be, that then he convinced himself that sacrificing everything: emotions, morals, and even their very lineage is the only way they will come out on top, top in this world ruled by the strong, thus the Vinsmokes swallow their pride as rulers, work as assassins and dogs of war, walking the earth with no land to call their own. own, even changing who they are through modification and cloning to bide time and gather strength to one day regain what they've lost. Being heavily modified, it is very possible that the other Vinsmoke children resemble Judge, a man of pure blood, less and less, ergo Sanji would while Sanji, by the merit of being unaltered unaltered, look closest to Judge, this Judge. This would also explain why Judge hates Sanji so much, for Sanji is the exact symbol of the sacrifice Judge had chosen to make, not only that but Sanji being the weakest of his sibling proved (seemingly) that his bloodline in its purest form is indeed inferior, and that Judge made the right call in sacrificing what he was for his dream. Sanji will prove Judge wrong, not by becoming the strongest of the Vinsmoke line, but by achieving more than his ancestors by holding firm onto his humanity and dream, thus embodying the truest form of strength envisioned in the Vinsmoke's own ideal.
6th Jul '17 5:51:51 PM zonezeroh
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**** The point of this WMG is that Judge has the same eyebrow as Sanji, since Judge lost his helmet in the latest chapter we will know soon enough. I personally believe this to be the case, Judge to me is a character much more complex than what was shown on the surface, his talk of a 300 hundred years dream/grudge of his people tells me that his ambition was not his alone, hell the idea might have been beaten into his lineage by his ancestors and pass down from one king to the next through ruthless discipline from father to son. Being a man of a proud lineage yet resort to modifying his children to achieve their dream must have taken remarkable resolve on his part, maybe him discovering lineage factor convinced him that his lineage is not the genetic superior that his ancestors convince him to be, that he convinced himself that sacrificing everything: emotions, morals, and even their very lineage is the only way they will come out on top, thus the Vinsmokes swallow their pride as rulers, work as assassins and dogs of war, walking the earth with no land to call their own. Being heavily modified, it is very possible that the other Vinsmoke children resemble Judge, a man of pure blood, less and less, ergo Sanji would by the merit of being unaltered look closest to Judge, this would also explain why Judge hates Sanji so much, for Sanji is the exact symbol of the sacrifice Judge had chosen to make, not only that but Sanji being the weakest of his sibling proved (seemingly) that his bloodline in its purest form is indeed inferior, and that Judge made the right call in sacrificing what he was for his dream. Sanji will prove Judge wrong, not by becoming the strongest of the Vinsmoke line, but by achieving more than his ancestors by holding firm onto his humanity and dream, thus embodying the truest form of strength envisioned in the Vinsmoke's own ideal.
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