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13th Dec '15 10:19:35 AM MikeRosoft
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* Jossed as of ''The Journal of the Two Sisters''.
30th Nov '15 7:21:27 AM Millstone
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[[folder:Time Travel]] [[WMG: How Starlight changed the past while Twilight couldn't.]] When Twilight used a time spell in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E20ItsAboutTime It's About Time]], the rules of YouAlreadyChangedThePast were in full effect. But the time spell used by Starlight in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E25TheCutieRemarkPart1 The Cutie Remark]] seemed to leave the travellers free to change the past however they wanted. Not only did they have RippleEffectProofMemory, they also suffered no physical change from altering their own past. While this seems like a contradiction due to lazy writing, the episode actually gave a clue regarding how it works. In all timelines, the Tree of Harmony remembered the Cutie Map and recreated it. Since Starlight's spell used the Cutie Map, and through it the Tree of Harmony, the spell was similarly able to remember and recreate the travellers, effectively shielding them from the rest of causality. In sci-fi terms, the spell/map/tree acted like a teleporter with a pattern buffer and an internal data time loop. [[/folder]]
3rd Oct '15 7:36:12 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: The Apple Trees (Malus spp) in this show work the way fruit trees in ''AnimalCrossing'' work.]]
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[[WMG: The Apple Trees (Malus spp) in this show work the way fruit trees in ''AnimalCrossing'' ''VideoGame/AnimalCrossing'' work.]]
11th Jul '15 5:56:37 AM monkeypizzasonic
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** I don't know about that, but cats are often associated with magic, being common familiars for witches and such. So one could justify it that way (since magic doesn't have anything to do with rudeness).
11th Jul '15 5:50:14 AM monkeypizzasonic
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Building on this; a simple glamour spell that changed your mark would not affect you, only high-level magic spells can affect a pony's talents through their cutie mark - like the unfinished Starswirled spell Twilight cast in "Magical Mystery Cute". It didn't simply switch around the pony's marks and elements, it changed their ''destiny'' - the cutie marks were just reflecting what they thought their destiny was based on innate knowledge of what their friends did (which is why, for example, Applejack was making dresses instead of running around looking for gems).
11th Jul '15 5:29:54 AM monkeypizzasonic
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[[WMG: Starlight Glimmer's spell uses the pony's Cutie Mark as a medium to rob them of their special talents.]] Trying to reconcile the "a cutie mark doesn't change who you are" and the "losing/changing your cutie mark messes with what makes you special" theories that have both been shown on the show - cutie marks reflect what was already there, so they don't change you, but they can be used as a medium to get to your talent/destiny and be used to change you that way. So Starlight's spell doesn't just change a pony's cutie mark, it sucks out all their individuality along with the mark.
16th Feb '15 10:47:47 PM NaturesRose
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* Perhaps the orbital mechanics of their solar system would not function with an outside force-from Princess Celestia and Luna, or even the elements of harmony. Possibly due to gravity wells in all the wrong places.
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* Perhaps the orbital mechanics of their solar system would not function with an outside force-from Princess Celestia and Luna, or even the elements Elements of harmony.Harmony. Possibly due to gravity wells in all the wrong places.

* ThePowerOfLove (i.e. Cadence + Shining Armour)
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* ThePowerOfLove (i.e. Cadence Cadance + Shining Armour)

* Cadence
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* CadenceCadance

* ThePowerOfLove comes next, as of the Royal Wedding. Chrysalis (the Changeling queen) is able to trump Celestia with siphoned love, and at the end Cadence's love was capable of overpowering the entirety of the Changeling hordes. It's as yet uncertain whether Love would trump the Elements, but I rank them lower because the Elements are more reliable, being as they are physical artifacts that can be gathered by the Mane 6 at any time, while Love is almost useless to anyone except Cadence and relies heavily on RuleOfDrama for effect.
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* ThePowerOfLove comes next, as of the Royal Wedding. Chrysalis (the Changeling queen) is able to trump Celestia with siphoned love, and at the end Cadence's Cadance's love was capable of overpowering the entirety of the Changeling hordes. It's as yet uncertain whether Love would trump the Elements, but I rank them lower because the Elements are more reliable, being as they are physical artifacts that can be gathered by the Mane 6 at any time, while Love is almost useless to anyone except Cadence Cadance and relies heavily on RuleOfDrama for effect.

* Celestia comes next, naturally, followed by Luna. As the younger of the two, I estimate Luna to be less powerful; additionally, Nightmare Moon was only able to overpower Celestia because she received a power boost from whatever being corrupted her, thus implying that Luna was weaker to begin with. Cadence follows her two aunts/great-aunts/whatever, as she's far less powerful than them without ThePowerOfLove.
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* Celestia comes next, naturally, followed by Luna. As the younger of the two, I estimate Luna to be less powerful; additionally, Nightmare Moon was only able to overpower Celestia because she received a power boost from whatever being corrupted her, thus implying that Luna was weaker to begin with. Cadence Cadance follows her two aunts/great-aunts/whatever, as she's far less powerful than them without ThePowerOfLove.

** Cadence really shouldn't be up with Celestia and Luna. Regardless of whether one believes that Celestia and Luna are especially powerful winged unicorns or that it takes time to reach that level of power, Cadence never displayed power above that of the average unicorn. She was defeated offscreen by Queen Chrysalis, was unable to even try to escape without Twilight's help, and Twilight did most of the work while they were escaping. She did use the PowerOfLove to help Shining Armor cast out the changelings, but Shining Armor is crazy powerful on his own, so that wasn't a solo showing. Outside of the very rare situations where somepony can be revitalized by the power of love, she should probably be down with the mane five, or in the swing tier with Spike.
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** Cadence Cadance really shouldn't be up with Celestia and Luna. Regardless of whether one believes that Celestia and Luna are especially powerful winged unicorns or that it takes time to reach that level of power, Cadence Cadance never displayed power above that of the average unicorn. She was defeated offscreen by Queen Chrysalis, was unable to even try to escape without Twilight's help, and Twilight did most of the work while they were escaping. She did use the PowerOfLove to help Shining Armor cast out the changelings, but Shining Armor is crazy powerful on his own, so that wasn't a solo showing. Outside of the very rare situations where somepony can be revitalized by the power of love, she should probably be down with the mane five, or in the swing tier with Spike.

** Suggest placing "normal"[[note]]As in, isn't feeding off of Shining Armor[[/note]] Queen Chrysalis here. She defeated Cadence without trouble, but used subterfuge to subvert Shining Armor instead of capturing him outright.
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** Suggest placing "normal"[[note]]As in, isn't feeding off of Shining Armor[[/note]] Queen Chrysalis here. She defeated Cadence Cadance without trouble, but used subterfuge to subvert Shining Armor instead of capturing him outright.

** Cadence would fit well here, due to the situational utility of her only strong ability. Chrysalis would also be a good fit, due to her explicitly variable power level.
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** Cadence Cadance would fit well here, due to the situational utility of her only strong ability. Chrysalis would also be a good fit, due to her explicitly variable power level.

* During [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E26ACanterlotWeddingPart2 the royal wedding]] Cadence and Shining Armor defeated the Changelings through ThePowerOfLove
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* During [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E26ACanterlotWeddingPart2 the royal wedding]] Cadence Cadance and Shining Armor defeated the Changelings through ThePowerOfLove

[[WMG: Two or more of the elements of Harmony can be combined to create other good forces.]]
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[[WMG: Two or more of the elements Elements of Harmony can be combined to create other good forces.]]

* Love ([[BadassPrincess Princess Cadence]])
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* Love ([[BadassPrincess Princess Cadence]])Cadance]])

* Light ([[EpilepticTrees Potential]] [[Franchise/{{Bionicle}} Takanuva]] [[EpilepticTrees analouge named]] [[BilingualBonus Diurnum]])
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* Light ([[EpilepticTrees Potential]] [[Franchise/{{Bionicle}} Takanuva]] [[EpilepticTrees analouge analogue named]] [[BilingualBonus Diurnum]])
26th Jan '15 9:35:42 PM PacificGreen
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Didn't realize there were subsections, moving my WMG to the correct place.
[[WMG: There are no dominant and recessive pony types.]] "Baby Cakes" seems to imply (though not directly state) that Earth pony gene is dominant and the unicorn and pegasus genes are recessive. And it appears that the vast majority of the pony population is Earth. However, it's evident in fanon that many bronies prefer to be portrayed as pegasi and unicorns, making earth ponies a fanon minority. Thus, if Earth ponies really ''were'' the dominant trait, we should be having a lot more Earth pony ponysonas, which is clearly not the case. And therefore, my theory is that pony parents can give birth to different pony types only if there they had an ancestor who was a certain pony type, and the probability of being born of a different pony type from one's parents is inversely proportional to the familial "distance" between ponies. For example, if a unicorn marries an earth pony, and the unicorn's grandfather was an pegasus, there is a small but considerable chance that their foal will become a pegasus. The chance of said foal becoming a pegasus becomes even smaller if the unicorn's great-great-great-great grandfather was a pegasus. This doesn't happen often usually because ponies of the same race prefer to marry one another. I know this is based off the fan community and shouldn't be taken all that seriously, but I like to think that, if everyone in the real world had an Equestrian counterpart, it would be really weird (not to mention disappointing) for many bronies to present themselves as, say, pegasi, only to actually have an Earth pony counterpart in Equestria. (Again, this is based on the baseless assumption that there really is an imaginary land called Equestria, but, hey, it's called Wild Mass Guessing for a reason, right?)

[[WMG: There are no dominant and recessive pony types.]] "Baby Cakes" seems to imply (though not directly state) that Earth pony gene is dominant and the unicorn and pegasus genes are recessive. And it appears that the vast majority of the pony population is Earth. However, it's evident in fanon that many bronies prefer to be portrayed as pegasi and unicorns, making earth ponies a fanon minority. Thus, if Earth ponies really ''were'' the dominant trait, we should be having a lot more Earth pony ponysonas, which is clearly not the case. I know this is based off the fan community and shouldn't be taken all that seriously, but I like to think that, if everyone in the real world had an Equestrian counterpart, it would be really weird (not to mention disappointing) for many bronies to present themselves as, say, pegasi, only to actually have an Earth pony counterpart in Equestria. (Again, this is based on the baseless assumption that there really is an imaginary land called Equestria, but, hey, it's called Wild Mass Guessing for a reason, right?)
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[[WMG: There are no dominant and recessive pony types.]] "Baby Cakes" seems to imply (though not directly state) that Earth pony gene is dominant and the unicorn and pegasus genes are recessive. And it appears that the vast majority of the pony population is Earth. However, it's evident in fanon that many bronies prefer to be portrayed as pegasi and unicorns, making earth ponies a fanon minority. Thus, if Earth ponies really ''were'' the dominant trait, we should be having a lot more Earth pony ponysonas, which is clearly not the case. I know this is based off the fan community and shouldn't be taken all that seriously, but I like to think that, if everyone in the real world had an Equestrian counterpart, it would be really weird (not to mention disappointing) for many bronies to present themselves as, say, pegasi, only to actually have an Earth pony counterpart in Equestria. (Again, this is based on the baseless assumption that there really is an imaginary land called Equestria, but, hey, it's called Wild Mass Guessing for a reason, right?)
26th Jan '15 9:26:35 PM PacificGreen
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[[WMG: There are no dominant and recessive pony types.]] "Baby Cakes" seems to imply (though not directly state) that Earth pony gene is dominant and the unicorn and pegasus genes are recessive. And it appears that the vast majority of the pony population is Earth. However, it's evident in fanon that many bronies prefer to be portrayed as pegasi and unicorns, making earth ponies a fanon minority. Thus, if Earth ponies really ''were'' the dominant trait, we should be having a lot more Earth pony ponysonas, which is clearly not the case. I know this is based off the fan community and shouldn't be taken all that seriously, but I like to think that, if everyone in the real world had an Equestrian counterpart, it would be really weird (not to mention disappointing) for many bronies to present themselves as, say, pegasi, only to actually have an Earth pony counterpart in Equestria. (Again, this is based on the baseless assumption that there really is an imaginary land called Equestria, but, hey, it's called Wild Mass Guessing for a reason, right?)
14th Nov '14 8:13:46 PM locuatico
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?????? - Greed (vs Generosity)\\
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