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21st Nov '17 2:59:40 PM ZarbiNerada
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[[WMG: Dinky will have an episode...]]
...in which she is shown to have a deep-seated, quite understandable animosity towards [[spoiler:Fizzlepop Berrytwist, alias]] Tempest Shadow.
11th Nov '17 1:07:48 PM BobRiddle
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[[WMG: The Background Six will sing a [[Series/LazyTown We Are Number One]] parody called "We're The Background Six".]]
7th Nov '17 7:55:52 PM Gbubu
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[[WMG: Thorax originally was a Changeling spy, but came down with Stockholm Syndrome.]]

He was originally sent to spy on Cadance, but he ended up taking a liking to the local populace and tried to fit in, but failed until Spike came along. Chrysalis is on her way for an invasion attempt, but she's going to have a nasty surprise when she sees Thorax sided with the ponies.
7th Nov '17 7:50:00 PM Gbubu
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[[WMG: Princess Ember will look Very Different after Season 6]]

When she first appeared in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E5GauntletOfFire Gauntlet of Fire]]" she looked [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ember.png like this]]. However, that was before she became the Dragon Lord, and technically became owner of everything in the Dragon Lands. The show has shown that dragons grow and change when they gain treasure, so when we see her again, she'll look more like this: [[http://fyre-flye.deviantart.com/art/Dragon-255847083]].
* Jossed. Ember appeared again in "Triple Threat", looking the same as in "Gauntlet of Fire".

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[[WMG: Princess Ember will look Very Different after Season 6]]

When she first appeared in "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS6E5GauntletOfFire Gauntlet of Fire]]" she looked [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ember.png like this]]. However, that was before she became the Dragon Lord, and technically became owner of everything in the Dragon Lands. The show has shown that dragons grow and change when they gain treasure, so when we see her again, she'll look more like this: [[http://fyre-flye.deviantart.com/art/Dragon-255847083]].
* Jossed. Ember appeared again in "Triple Threat", looking the same as in "Gauntlet of Fire".
4th Nov '17 11:38:03 PM Theriocephalus
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->and you can still go back to the [[WMG/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic Main WMG Page, here]]
4th Nov '17 11:37:50 PM Theriocephalus
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->'''BUT''' [[WMG/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicPinkiePie Pinkie Pie Guesses go here]]
->[[WMG/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicPillarsofEquestria Pillars of Equestria Guesses go here]]



->[[WMG/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicRoyalty Royalty Guesses go here]]
2nd Nov '17 8:17:32 AM Gbubu
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[[WMG: Star Swirl the Bearded is a LegacyCharacter]]
Star Swirl the Bearded is merely a name passed down between powerful unicorns throughout Equestrian history. This explains why he's depicted with different coat colors (white in ''Three's a Crowd'', gray in the IDW comics, and blue in ''Rainbow Rocks'').

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[[WMG: Star Swirl the Bearded is a LegacyCharacter]]
Star Swirl the Bearded is merely a name passed down between powerful unicorns throughout Equestrian history. This explains why he's depicted with different coat colors (white in ''Three's a Crowd'', gray in the IDW comics, and blue in ''Rainbow Rocks'').
2nd Nov '17 8:16:40 AM Gbubu
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[[WMG: Star Swirl the Bearded is the next BigBad, or was one in the distant past, which we will see in a Flashback episode]]
* either way, if this is true, he'll [[BackFromTheDead come back]] either as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghost]] or otherwise.
* Seems legit as one of the only stated attributes about him was that he didn't understand friendship like Twilight did. Given the premise of the show, such an attribute is either that of a naive person or a jerkass.

[[WMG: Star Swirl the Beaded did become a prince.]]
* It's a matter of some confusion whether creating a new spell entitles one to royalty. Suppose Star Swirl did become royalty but unlike Luna and Celestia decided WhoWantsToLiveForever and then allowed himself to grow old and die.

[[WMG: Star Swirl the Bearded died by his own hoof.]]
His spell changed ponies destinies around, and he never was able to repair the damage. Rainbow Dash nearly died in MMC, and it is pretty much a given that several of Star Swirl's swaps were indirectly fatal in similar ways. Star Swirl took his own life out of remorse.

[[WMG: The Spell of Starswirl the Bearded ''was'' complete]]
It’s just that Princess Celestia didn't understand completely what it was for. She herself said that Starswirl didn't understand friendship like Twilight did, and that was what this spell was for: To [[SwappedRoles swap roles]] with someone else to get a better understanding of their persona, and in turn, get a better understanding on yourself. Note that Twilight Sparkle did not actually complete the spell, but made a completely new one. Also note that the “cure” for the spell wasn't a magical one, but simply to remind each individual of their particular strengths.
The spell is supposed to be cast in a controlled environment, with only two individual, so they can learn to walk in each other shoes for a while, Twilight Sparkle casting it randomly only worked because she is part of the elements of Harmony, and it caused them to switch, not at random, but at the pony with the job/element they were the weakest with, to teach them a lesson.
* Rainbow Dash got Fluttershy's mark. She needed to learn kindness, and Fluttershy’s talent, caring for the animals is also the one who would keep her at the ground the most.
* Fluttershy got Pinkie Pie's mark. She needs to let go and learn to laugh at herself, not to mention Pinkie's talent would force her to socialize with her fellow ponies.
* Pinkie Pie got Applejack's mark. Having fun and laughter is fine and all, but she needs to learn that there is a time for fun and a time for hard work, and not every time you get the best results.
* Applejack got Rarity's mark. This one is tricky, but is basically because that's the one left: Applejack needed to learn to appreciate Rarity's hard work and don't dismiss her dressmaking.
* Rarity got Rainbow Dash' mark. As nice as Rarity is, she's the one most prone to deny relationship if she feels threatened: to her friends in “Sweet and elite” and to her family in “Sisterhooves Social”. She got better in better in both cases, but there's no guarantee that she won't relapse. Also, of the other six, Rainbow Dash is the one she most obviously would consider a “ruffian”, so she needed to learn to appreciate her hard work as well.

[[WMG: Starswirl the Bearded died during Discord's reign.]]
He used Age Spells to extend his lifespan, but trying to cast a spell like that during an era saturated by chaos is a ''baaad'' idea. The ambient botched the spell and he ended up aging himself into oblivion.

[[WMG: Starswirl planted the seed that would eventually grow into the Tree of Harmony.]]
After all, he does have a spell that affects them.

[[WMG: Star Swirl didn't make the spell from Magical Mystery Cure.]]
To explain, he was working on some poetry, which Princess Celestia mistakenly thought was an unfinished spell. The random result was because Twilight Sparkle tried to cast something that wasn't a spell. As far as Star Swirl's work was concerned, she met as well have tried to cast phonograph instructions.

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[[WMG: Star Swirl the Bearded is the next BigBad, or was one in the distant past, which we will see in a Flashback episode]]
* either way, if this is true, he'll [[BackFromTheDead come back]] either as a [[OurGhostsAreDifferent ghost]] or otherwise.
* Seems legit as one of the only stated attributes about him was that he didn't understand friendship like Twilight did. Given the premise of the show, such an attribute is either that of a naive person or a jerkass.

[[WMG: Star Swirl the Beaded did become a prince.]]
* It's a matter of some confusion whether creating a new spell entitles one to royalty. Suppose Star Swirl did become royalty but unlike Luna and Celestia decided WhoWantsToLiveForever and then allowed himself to grow old and die.

[[WMG: Star Swirl the Bearded died by his own hoof.]]
His spell changed ponies destinies around, and he never was able to repair the damage. Rainbow Dash nearly died in MMC, and it is pretty much a given that several of Star Swirl's swaps were indirectly fatal in similar ways. Star Swirl took his own life out of remorse.

[[WMG: The Spell of Starswirl the Bearded ''was'' complete]]
It’s just that Princess Celestia didn't understand completely what it was for. She herself said that Starswirl didn't understand friendship like Twilight did, and that was what this spell was for: To [[SwappedRoles swap roles]] with someone else to get a better understanding of their persona, and in turn, get a better understanding on yourself. Note that Twilight Sparkle did not actually complete the spell, but made a completely new one. Also note that the “cure” for the spell wasn't a magical one, but simply to remind each individual of their particular strengths.
The spell is supposed to be cast in a controlled environment, with only two individual, so they can learn to walk in each other shoes for a while, Twilight Sparkle casting it randomly only worked because she is part of the elements of Harmony, and it caused them to switch, not at random, but at the pony with the job/element they were the weakest with, to teach them a lesson.
* Rainbow Dash got Fluttershy's mark. She needed to learn kindness, and Fluttershy’s talent, caring for the animals is also the one who would keep her at the ground the most.
* Fluttershy got Pinkie Pie's mark. She needs to let go and learn to laugh at herself, not to mention Pinkie's talent would force her to socialize with her fellow ponies.
* Pinkie Pie got Applejack's mark. Having fun and laughter is fine and all, but she needs to learn that there is a time for fun and a time for hard work, and not every time you get the best results.
* Applejack got Rarity's mark. This one is tricky, but is basically because that's the one left: Applejack needed to learn to appreciate Rarity's hard work and don't dismiss her dressmaking.
* Rarity got Rainbow Dash' mark. As nice as Rarity is, she's the one most prone to deny relationship if she feels threatened: to her friends in “Sweet and elite” and to her family in “Sisterhooves Social”. She got better in better in both cases, but there's no guarantee that she won't relapse. Also, of the other six, Rainbow Dash is the one she most obviously would consider a “ruffian”, so she needed to learn to appreciate her hard work as well.

[[WMG: Starswirl the Bearded died during Discord's reign.]]
He used Age Spells to extend his lifespan, but trying to cast a spell like that during an era saturated by chaos is a ''baaad'' idea. The ambient botched the spell and he ended up aging himself into oblivion.

[[WMG: Starswirl planted the seed that would eventually grow into the Tree of Harmony.]]
After all, he does have a spell that affects them.

[[WMG: Star Swirl didn't make the spell from Magical Mystery Cure.]]
To explain, he was working on some poetry, which Princess Celestia mistakenly thought was an unfinished spell. The random result was because Twilight Sparkle tried to cast something that wasn't a spell. As far as Star Swirl's work was concerned, she met as well have tried to cast phonograph instructions.

2nd Nov '17 8:15:35 AM Gbubu
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[[WMG: Almost nopony has any idea who Star Swirl the Bearded really was.]]
When he is first mentioned, in Luna Eclipsed, Twilight said that he was in a book of obscure unicorn history. The characters in the Hearth's Warming pageant were all symbolic, not actual living ponies, and each actor traditionally gets to design their own role within the confines of their place in the play. When Twilight mentioned her character was taught by Star Swirl the Bearded, that was just additional backstory made up by her simply because she liked the sound of it. Also, the Star Swirl the Bearded wing of the Canterlot Archives was funded by the mage himself--it wasn't in his honor.

Twilight simply obsesses over him, partially because without the "amniomorphic spell" (spell to morph the amnions of eggs), Spike wouldn't be alive. And partially because that's just one of her quirks--a very specific, and rather weird, obsession with an obscure wizard.
* "Amniomorphic" means "bowl-shaping", as in the pottery. He's a [[HarryPotter Hairy Potter]]. It's a pun. Considering this is Twilight, she wouldn't make it up; it's just a little-known fact about Clover the Clever that s/he studied under Starswirl the Bearded. There's also the fact that ''he'' might not be obscure, but some of his spells are, such as the above-mentioned pottery spell, and that's what was in the book.
** Kinda {{Jossed}} in Three's A Crowd. When Twilight and Cadance go to the traveling Star Swirl the Bearded exhibit there are a lot of other ponies there as well, some even cosplaying him like Twilight was. Plus the fact that he has a traveling exhibit dedicated to him in the first place suggests he's fairly well-known.

[[WMG:Everyone's guesses about Twilight's Star Swirl the Bearded costume were right.]]
Star Swirl played country music as a hobby, performed clown tricks on the street to pay for magic college, and now resides at the old folk's home. He's pretty cranky because nopony recognizes him.
* Considering Luna recognized him, he must be one elderly stallion if he's still at that old folk's home.
** Why do people think Luna knew Starswirl personally? All she said was that she recognized the costume and that Twilight got the number of bells right.
*** It isn't necessarily that she knew him personally, but that she (at least) knew of him. The fact that Luna was gone for 1000 years and doesn't know how to make friends implies that he was famous before she was banished. Additionally, in Hearth's Warming Eve, Star Swirl is mentioned to be Clover the Clever's mentor, putting him, at the very least, before Luna's banishment.
** Twilight told Spike that Star Swirl created over 200 different spells; one of them could easily have been longevity. He just forgot the eternal youth part.
** It turns out that there is an age modification spell, that only the most powerful of ponies can use... Maybe he only uses it when he gets really old? Or making himself too young would get him kicked out of the retirement center.

[[WMG: The Princess referred to in Twilight's book in "Hearts and Hooves Day" later became Queen Chrysalis.]]

She began as the alicorn ruler of a pre-Equestrian kingdom, but upon being overdosed with love poison became physically dependent on love, and her addiction led her to evil acts that further corrupted her. Much like Nightmare Moon, her physical form eventually altered to match her mindset over the centuries. The kingdom in question? The Crystal Empire. This could also very possibly make her Cadence's direct ancestor.
* And the prince, driven mad with grief, became King Sombra.

[[WMG: Starswirl was the creator of the spell to change genders]]
He test it on himself, but it worked too well and he become a she more time than expected. That make the female Starswirl toy make a little sense.
* Or... she could be his descendant. Or just have been named in honor of him.

[[WMG: Starswirl's spell from Magical Mystery Cure was intended to turn ponies into alicorns.]]
Originally, it was supposed to give the abilities of multiple ponies to one - after all, alicorns are a combination of all three pony races. However, as we saw, the version Twilight got took the talents and instead of combining them, switched them.

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[[WMG: Almost nopony has any idea who Star Swirl the Bearded really was.]]
When he is first mentioned, in Luna Eclipsed, Twilight said that he was in a book of obscure unicorn history. The characters in the Hearth's Warming pageant were all symbolic, not actual living ponies, and each actor traditionally gets to design their own role within the confines of their place in the play. When Twilight mentioned her character was taught by Star Swirl the Bearded, that was just additional backstory made up by her simply because she liked the sound of it. Also, the Star Swirl the Bearded wing of the Canterlot Archives was funded by the mage himself--it wasn't in his honor.

Twilight simply obsesses over him, partially because without the "amniomorphic spell" (spell to morph the amnions of eggs), Spike wouldn't be alive. And partially because that's just one of her quirks--a very specific, and rather weird, obsession with an obscure wizard.
* "Amniomorphic" means "bowl-shaping", as in the pottery. He's a [[HarryPotter Hairy Potter]]. It's a pun. Considering this is Twilight, she wouldn't make it up; it's just a little-known fact about Clover the Clever that s/he studied under Starswirl the Bearded. There's also the fact that ''he'' might not be obscure, but some of his spells are, such as the above-mentioned pottery spell, and that's what was in the book.
** Kinda {{Jossed}} in Three's A Crowd. When Twilight and Cadance go to the traveling Star Swirl the Bearded exhibit there are a lot of other ponies there as well, some even cosplaying him like Twilight was. Plus the fact that he has a traveling exhibit dedicated to him in the first place suggests he's fairly well-known.

[[WMG:Everyone's guesses about Twilight's Star Swirl the Bearded costume were right.]]
Star Swirl played country music as a hobby, performed clown tricks on the street to pay for magic college, and now resides at the old folk's home. He's pretty cranky because nopony recognizes him.
* Considering Luna recognized him, he must be one elderly stallion if he's still at that old folk's home.
** Why do people think Luna knew Starswirl personally? All she said was that she recognized the costume and that Twilight got the number of bells right.
*** It isn't necessarily that she knew him personally, but that she (at least) knew of him. The fact that Luna was gone for 1000 years and doesn't know how to make friends implies that he was famous before she was banished. Additionally, in Hearth's Warming Eve, Star Swirl is mentioned to be Clover the Clever's mentor, putting him, at the very least, before Luna's banishment.
** Twilight told Spike that Star Swirl created over 200 different spells; one of them could easily have been longevity. He just forgot the eternal youth part.
** It turns out that there is an age modification spell, that only the most powerful of ponies can use... Maybe he only uses it when he gets really old? Or making himself too young would get him kicked out of the retirement center.

[[WMG: The Princess referred to in Twilight's book in "Hearts and Hooves Day" later became Queen Chrysalis.]]

She began as the alicorn ruler of a pre-Equestrian kingdom, but upon being overdosed with love poison became physically dependent on love, and her addiction led her to evil acts that further corrupted her. Much like Nightmare Moon, her physical form eventually altered to match her mindset over the centuries. The kingdom in question? The Crystal Empire. This could also very possibly make her Cadence's direct ancestor.
* And the prince, driven mad with grief, became King Sombra.

[[WMG: Starswirl was the creator of the spell to change genders]]
He test it on himself, but it worked too well and he become a she more time than expected. That make the female Starswirl toy make a little sense.
* Or... she could be his descendant. Or just have been named in honor of him.

[[WMG: Starswirl's spell from Magical Mystery Cure was intended to turn ponies into alicorns.]]
Originally, it was supposed to give the abilities of multiple ponies to one - after all, alicorns are a combination of all three pony races. However, as we saw, the version Twilight got took the talents and instead of combining them, switched them.
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2nd Nov '17 8:14:31 AM Gbubu
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[[WMG: Star Swirl the Bearded’s Amniomorphic Spell…….]]
…allows a foal fetus to be carried by a male pony, with its base being an amniotic sack formed with magic. There had long been spells allowing two ponies of any gender to mix DNA and conceive a foal together, but before Star Swirl’s breakthrough, the foals would still need to be carried to term by a mare.

This complication discouraged some would-be M/M parents from attempting to have biological foals, and had led to an increasing female percent of the population as F/F parents and their fillies became more frequent.

Because of its rather specific possibly controversial nature, this spell and the mage who literally fathered it remains obscure to most lay ponies, though it is still well known and often used in the medical world.

* Um... no. It's a pun. Amnio means "bowl" and "morphic" is "morphing" so it pretty much morphs clay into bowls. He's a '''[[Franchise/HarryPotter Hairy Potter]]'''. It's not a spell for your m-preg or yuri slashfic.
** Yuri is GirlsLove.

[[WMG: Star Swirl the Bearded will appear.]]
Either in an episode that takes place in the past or in a TimeTravel episode.
* Well, the time travel spell IS in his wing of the Canterlot library. Perhaps we'll see how he discovered it?
* The third season opening included a book with ''Stars'' and ''Swirls'' on the cover... The pony himself might be dead, but that doesn't always mean gone or forgotten.

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[[WMG: Star Swirl the Bearded’s Amniomorphic Spell…….]]
…allows a foal fetus to be carried by a male pony, with its base being an amniotic sack formed with magic. There had long been spells allowing two ponies of any gender to mix DNA and conceive a foal together, but before Star Swirl’s breakthrough, the foals would still need to be carried to term by a mare.

This complication discouraged some would-be M/M parents from attempting to have biological foals, and had led to an increasing female percent of the population as F/F parents and their fillies became more frequent.

Because of its rather specific possibly controversial nature, this spell and the mage who literally fathered it remains obscure to most lay ponies, though it is still well known and often used in the medical world.

* Um... no. It's a pun. Amnio means "bowl" and "morphic" is "morphing" so it pretty much morphs clay into bowls. He's a '''[[Franchise/HarryPotter Hairy Potter]]'''. It's not a spell for your m-preg or yuri slashfic.
** Yuri is GirlsLove.

[[WMG: Star Swirl the Bearded will appear.]]
Either in an episode that takes place in the past or in a TimeTravel episode.
* Well, the time travel spell IS in his wing of the Canterlot library. Perhaps we'll see how he discovered it?
* The third season opening included a book with ''Stars'' and ''Swirls'' on the cover... The pony himself might be dead, but that doesn't always mean gone or forgotten.

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