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* Not to mention "I don't need you any more! ALL MY LIFE youve made me believe I was only worth what someone would pay for me!" And his reaction to finding out she was dying before remembering as creatures of the underworld, they cannot love...
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* Not to mention "I don't need you any more! ALL MY LIFE youve you've made me believe I was only worth what someone would pay for me!" And his reaction to finding out she was dying before remembering as creatures of the underworld, they cannot love...
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* Don't forger all the sweet nicknames that he calls her with.
* Not to mention "I dont need you anymore! ALL MY LIFE youve made me believe I was only worth what someone would pay for me!" And his reaction to finding out she was dying before remembering as creatures of the underworld, they cannot love...
* Not to mention "I dont need you anymore! ALL MY LIFE youve made me believe I was only worth what someone would pay for me!" And his reaction to finding out she was dying before remembering as creatures of the underworld, they cannot love...
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* Don't forger forget all the sweet nicknames that he calls her with.
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** Zidler's line "Liebchen. Would Daddy let you down?" can be taken as literally as the viewer likes.
* Not to mention "Idont don't need you anymore! any more! ALL MY LIFE youve made me believe I was only worth what someone would pay for me!" And his reaction to finding out she was dying before remembering as creatures of the underworld, they cannot love...
** Zidler's line "Liebchen. Would Daddy let you down?" can be taken as literally as the viewer likes.
* Not to mention "I
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** Or alternately, he's basically there to spot her in case she injures herself during a performance, but over time found himself falling for her. Also, Satine's costume-changer kid with the raccoon eye makeup totally has a thing for her too.
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** Or alternately, he's basically there to spot her in case she injures herself during a performance, but over time found himself falling for her. Also, Satine's costume-changer kid with the raccoon eye makeup totally has a thing for her too.
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Think about it. It's well-established that Satine has tuberculosis when we first see her, and the disease can be spread through infected saliva. Keeping in mind how much... contact she and Christian had, there's a good chance that he got the disease as well. Christian realizes this, and writes their story so that his memories of her will live on after he has died too.
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** This adds such a horrific element to an already dark film. How amoral - or desperate - must a man be to [[AbusiveParents pimp out his own daughter?]]
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The opening flashback reveals that the story takes place in 1899. This is the same year Toulouse-Lautrec's alcoholism started to effect his health leading to him collapsing, being committed to a sanitarium, and his death in 1901. What finally pushed him over the edge to drink himself to death was Satine's death and Christian's heartbreak as he was good friends with both, the closing of the Moulin Rouge, and the dilapidation of the Bohemian neighborhood by 1900 as seen in the films opening.
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*Nini's lashing out against Christian and Satine might be related to this -- seeing Satine seemingly have it both ways with both a wealthy patron and a penniless Bohemian on the side, at the same time as she plays the romantic heroine opposite Nini's own ex-lover in the ShowWithinAShow. Either might be enough to foster spite, but both together won't end well.
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* Not just Christian, but Zidler, the Duke, and anyone close by. From the CDC website: ''"TB is spread through the air from one person to another. The TB bacteria are put into the air when a person with TB disease of the lungs or throat coughs, sneezes, speaks, or '''sings'''. People nearby may breathe in these bacteria and become infected."'' Maybe the Duke wasn't the one to shut down the Moulin Rouge, but it was shut down after he, any of the workers, or even some of the audience members during the finale died of tuberculosis after. It could take anywhere from several years to a few weeks, but either way, [[YourDaysAreNumbered Christian doesn't have much time left.]]
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* Not just Christian, but Zidler, the Duke, and anyone close by. From the CDC website: ''"TB is spread through the air from one person to another. The TB bacteria are put into the air when a person with TB disease of the lungs or throat coughs, sneezes, speaks, or '''sings'''. People nearby may breathe in these bacteria and become infected."'' Maybe the Duke wasn't the one to shut down the Moulin Rouge, but it was shut down after he, any of the workers, or even some of the audience members during the finale died of tuberculosis after. It could take anywhere from several years to a few weeks, [[YouAreAlreadyDead but either way, way]], [[YourDaysAreNumbered Christian doesn't have much time left.]]
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* Not just Christian, but Zidler, the Duke, and anyone close by. From the CDC website: "TB is spread through the air from one person to another. The TB bacteria are put into the air when a person with TB disease of the lungs or throat coughs, sneezes, speaks, or sings. People nearby may breathe in these bacteria and become infected." Maybe a sudden epidemic of TB among the Moulin Rouge workers actually got the place shut down, and [[YourDaysAreNumbered Christian doesn't have much time left.]]
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* Not just Christian, but Zidler, the Duke, and anyone close by. From the CDC website: "TB ''"TB is spread through the air from one person to another. The TB bacteria are put into the air when a person with TB disease of the lungs or throat coughs, sneezes, speaks, or sings.'''sings'''. People nearby may breathe in these bacteria and become infected." "'' Maybe a sudden epidemic of TB among the Duke wasn't the one to shut down the Moulin Rouge workers actually got the place Rouge, but it was shut down, and down after he, any of the workers, or even some of the audience members during the finale died of tuberculosis after. It could take anywhere from several years to a few weeks, but either way, [[YourDaysAreNumbered Christian doesn't have much time left.]]
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* Not just Christian, but Zidler, the Duke, and anyone close by. From the CDC website: "TB is spread through the air from one person to another. The TB bacteria are put into the air when a person with TB disease of the lungs or throat coughs, sneezes, speaks, or sings. People nearby may breathe in these bacteria and become infected." Maybe a sudden epidemic of TB among the Moulin Rouge workers actually got the place shut down, and [[YourDaysAreNumbered Christian doesn't have much time left.]]
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During "El Tango de Roxanne", she seems shocked and a little hurt when the Argentinian calls out "Roxanne". Why? Because it's her real name, which she had only told him. This is his way of slut-shaming her.
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During "El Tango de Roxanne", she seems shocked and a little hurt when the Argentinian calls out "Roxanne". Why? Because it's her real name, which she had only told him. This is his way of slut-shaming her.her.
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[[WMG: The entire film was in Toulouse's mind while he was locked away in the sanitarium]]
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[[WMG: The entire film was in [[Creator/HenriDeToulouseLautrec Toulouse's mind mind]] while he was locked away in the sanitarium]]
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During the "Tango de Roxanne", the Argentinian seems genuinely angry about a failed relationship with a courtesan. He sings this song to Nini and tangoes with her, becoming more violent as the tango progresses. When Nini tells the Duke that she doesn't understand why Satine's character in ''Spectacular Spectacular'' would fall for a penniless citar player over a the Maharaja, she is implying that she wanted to be with the Argentinian, but the money in dancing and prostitution was better.
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During the "Tango de Roxanne", the Argentinian seems genuinely angry about a failed relationship with a courtesan. He sings this song to Nini and tangoes with her, becoming more violent as the tango progresses. When Nini tells the Duke that she doesn't understand why Satine's character in ''Spectacular Spectacular'' would fall for a penniless citar sitar player over a the Maharaja, Maharajah, she is implying that she wanted to be with the Argentinian, but the money in dancing and prostitution was better.
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* This troper believed this to be canon for a long time.
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*This troper believed this to be canon for a long time.
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* Satine is the redheaded cortisone he painted so many times.
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* Satine is the redheaded cortisone courtesan he painted so many times.
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* Check out that Other Wiki for some brain popping >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_de_Toulouse-Lautrec
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* Check out that Other Wiki for some brain popping >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_de_Toulouse-Lautrecorg/wiki/Henri_de_Toulouse-Lautrec
[[WMG: Nini Legs-in-the-air's real name is Roxanne.]]
During "El Tango de Roxanne", she seems shocked and a little hurt when the Argentinian calls out "Roxanne". Why? Because it's her real name, which she had only told him. This is his way of slut-shaming her.
[[WMG: Nini Legs-in-the-air's real name is Roxanne.]]
During "El Tango de Roxanne", she seems shocked and a little hurt when the Argentinian calls out "Roxanne". Why? Because it's her real name, which she had only told him. This is his way of slut-shaming her.
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During the "Tango de Roxanne", the Argentinian seems genuinely angry about a failed relationship with a courtesan. He sings this song to Nini and tangoes with her, becoming more violent as the tango progresses. When Nini tells the Duke that she doesn't understand why Satine's character in ''Spectacular Spectacular'' would fall for a penniless citar player over a the Maharaja, she is implying that she wanted to be with the Argentinian, but the money in dancing and prostitution was better.
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During the "Tango de Roxanne", the Argentinian seems genuinely angry about a failed relationship with a courtesan. He sings this song to Nini and tangoes with her, becoming more violent as the tango progresses. When Nini tells the Duke that she doesn't understand why Satine's character in ''Spectacular Spectacular'' would fall for a penniless citar player over a the Maharaja, she is implying that she wanted to be with the Argentinian, but the money in dancing and prostitution was better.better.
[[WMG: The entire film was in Toulouse's mind while he was locked away in the sanitarium]]
Explains why he knew everything, how the handkerchief plan worked so perfectly, and perhaps lampshaded in his opening song singing alone about all that is happening.
*Satine is the redheaded cortisone he painted so many times.
*Check out that Other Wiki for some brain popping >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_de_Toulouse-Lautrec
[[WMG: The entire film was in Toulouse's mind while he was locked away in the sanitarium]]
Explains why he knew everything, how the handkerchief plan worked so perfectly, and perhaps lampshaded in his opening song singing alone about all that is happening.
*Satine is the redheaded cortisone he painted so many times.
*Check out that Other Wiki for some brain popping >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_de_Toulouse-Lautrec
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* Not to mention "I dont need you anymore! ALL MY LIFE youve made me believe I was only worth what someone would pay for me!" And his reaction to finding out she was dying before remembering as creatures of the underworld, they cannot love...
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Compare Henri de Tolouse-Lautrec singing 'Nature Boy' to him during the rest of it. He's very different. It's possible then that Christian has also exaggerated all the characters in the story to make it more exciting, while keeping the narrative the same.
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Compare Henri de Tolouse-Lautrec singing 'Nature Boy' to him during the rest of it. He's very different. It's possible then that Christian has also exaggerated all the characters in the story to make it more exciting, while keeping the narrative the same.same.
[[WMG: Nini and the Argentinian had a relationship in the past.]]
During the "Tango de Roxanne", the Argentinian seems genuinely angry about a failed relationship with a courtesan. He sings this song to Nini and tangoes with her, becoming more violent as the tango progresses. When Nini tells the Duke that she doesn't understand why Satine's character in ''Spectacular Spectacular'' would fall for a penniless citar player over a the Maharaja, she is implying that she wanted to be with the Argentinian, but the money in dancing and prostitution was better.
[[WMG: Nini and the Argentinian had a relationship in the past.]]
During the "Tango de Roxanne", the Argentinian seems genuinely angry about a failed relationship with a courtesan. He sings this song to Nini and tangoes with her, becoming more violent as the tango progresses. When Nini tells the Duke that she doesn't understand why Satine's character in ''Spectacular Spectacular'' would fall for a penniless citar player over a the Maharaja, she is implying that she wanted to be with the Argentinian, but the money in dancing and prostitution was better.
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* This is almost but not quite confirmed by WordOfGod: all the musical numbers were meant to be viewed as events and songs of the time as viewed through a modern lens, changing them into songs the audience would be familiar with so as to invoke the proper emotional response people of the time would have had (example, using "Smells Like Teen Spirit" for the society men to sing to represent how wild and crazy and decadent the Moulin Rouge was--the actual songs of the time wouldn't have sounded like that to us). It's only a slight jump from this to suggest these "modern songs used to convey an old-time feeling" were also just in the characters' heads.
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* This is almost but not quite confirmed by WordOfGod: all the musical numbers were meant to be viewed as events and songs of the time as viewed through a modern lens, changing them into songs the audience would be familiar with so as to invoke the proper emotional response people of the time would have had (example, using "Smells Like Teen Spirit" for the society men to sing to represent how wild and crazy and decadent the Moulin Rouge was--the actual songs of the time wouldn't have sounded like that to us). It's only a slight jump from this to suggest these "modern songs used to convey an old-time feeling" were also just in the characters' heads.heads.
[[WMG: The events we see are also distorted by Christian's writing]]
Compare Henri de Tolouse-Lautrec singing 'Nature Boy' to him during the rest of it. He's very different. It's possible then that Christian has also exaggerated all the characters in the story to make it more exciting, while keeping the narrative the same.
[[WMG: The events we see are also distorted by Christian's writing]]
Compare Henri de Tolouse-Lautrec singing 'Nature Boy' to him during the rest of it. He's very different. It's possible then that Christian has also exaggerated all the characters in the story to make it more exciting, while keeping the narrative the same.
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They halucinated a green fairy when they had a shot of absinthe each. This also explains the frantic editing at the start of the film, they were all on absinth but stopped once the situation with the Duke became serious. ''Elephant Love Melody?'' Christian trying to make the scene where he and Satine fall in love more romantic.''
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They halucinated a green fairy when they had a shot of absinthe each. This also explains the frantic editing at the start of the film, they were all on absinth but stopped once the situation with the Duke became serious. ''Elephant Love Melody?'' Christian trying to make the scene where he and Satine fall in love more romantic.''''
* This is almost but not quite confirmed by WordOfGod: all the musical numbers were meant to be viewed as events and songs of the time as viewed through a modern lens, changing them into songs the audience would be familiar with so as to invoke the proper emotional response people of the time would have had (example, using "Smells Like Teen Spirit" for the society men to sing to represent how wild and crazy and decadent the Moulin Rouge was--the actual songs of the time wouldn't have sounded like that to us). It's only a slight jump from this to suggest these "modern songs used to convey an old-time feeling" were also just in the characters' heads.
* This is almost but not quite confirmed by WordOfGod: all the musical numbers were meant to be viewed as events and songs of the time as viewed through a modern lens, changing them into songs the audience would be familiar with so as to invoke the proper emotional response people of the time would have had (example, using "Smells Like Teen Spirit" for the society men to sing to represent how wild and crazy and decadent the Moulin Rouge was--the actual songs of the time wouldn't have sounded like that to us). It's only a slight jump from this to suggest these "modern songs used to convey an old-time feeling" were also just in the characters' heads.
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[[WMG: Aside from the Can-Can scene, all of the trippy musical numbers are in the heads of Christian and his friends.]]
They halucinated a green fairy when they had a shot of absinthe each. This also explains the frantic editing at the start of the film, they were all on absinth but stopped once the situation with the Duke became serious.
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[[WMG: Aside from the Can-Can scene and Hindi Sad diamonds scene, all of the trippy musical numbers are in the heads of Christian and his friends.]]
They halucinated a green fairy when they had a shot of absinthe each. This also explains the frantic editing at the start of the film, they were all on absinth but stopped once the situation with the Duke became serious. ''Elephant Love Melody?'' Christian trying to make the scene where he and Satine fall in love more romantic.''
They halucinated a green fairy when they had a shot of absinthe each. This also explains the frantic editing at the start of the film, they were all on absinth but stopped once the situation with the Duke became serious. ''Elephant Love Melody?'' Christian trying to make the scene where he and Satine fall in love more romantic.''
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Think about it. It's well-established that Satine has tuberculosis when we first see her, and the disease can be spread through infected saliva. Keeping in mind how much... contact she and Christian had, there's a good chance that he got the disease as well. Christian realizes this, and writes their story so that his memories of her will live on after he has died too.
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Think about it. It's well-established that Satine has tuberculosis when we first see her, and the disease can be spread through infected saliva. Keeping in mind how much... contact she and Christian had, there's a good chance that he got the disease as well. Christian realizes this, and writes their story so that his memories of her will live on after he has died too.too.
[[WMG: Aside from the Can-Can scene, all of the trippy musical numbers are in the heads of Christian and his friends.]]
They halucinated a green fairy when they had a shot of absinthe each. This also explains the frantic editing at the start of the film, they were all on absinth but stopped once the situation with the Duke became serious.
[[WMG: Aside from the Can-Can scene, all of the trippy musical numbers are in the heads of Christian and his friends.]]
They halucinated a green fairy when they had a shot of absinthe each. This also explains the frantic editing at the start of the film, they were all on absinth but stopped once the situation with the Duke became serious.