History WMG / KidIcarusUprising

23rd Feb '17 11:45:40 AM OmegalphaAI
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The Mirror of Truth creates Dark Pit as a "true" copy of Pit, and they decide he broke it before Pittoo was complete. However, this troper believes that Dark Pit is the reflection of Pit's true self: arguably good, but with serious cynicism and issues with authority. It's possible that, at some point, Pit, as a true angel, decided that some deity needed to be put in their place, and obliterated one of them (Possibilities include Zeus, Kronos, Gaia, and Ares), which resulted in his being cast down due to violating free will (Seriously, free will is a big deal in the Bible), and so he Fell. Palutena found him and took mercy on him, wiping his memory and replacing his burnt-up wings with fake ones, so he would not turn evil, and gave him the power of flight to prevent him from really thinking about why he can't fly. If he flies for too long, his wings burn up, and they even make specific mention of him falling. This could be because his wings are already burnt up. Also, note that even though he's only a singular servant of a (judging from the strength of her troops and how she never actually fights, despite the fact that she seems like she could curb stomp one of the underlings) relatively minor deity, he's able to defeat, single handedly, all the power of the Aurum gathered in a single form, with almost no help whatsoever. Yes, he's needed treasures before, but he's actually ''stronger'' without the Three Sacred Treasures, so it's possible that these are {{Magic Feather}}s, and he is just using the power of an ''angel''. Seriously, his power level is all over the place, even with only his ordinary weapon, suggesting he always has access to however much power he needs. Why? He's a fallen angel.

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The Mirror of Truth creates Dark Pit as a "true" copy of Pit, and they decide he broke it before Pittoo was complete. However, this troper believes that Dark Pit is the reflection of Pit's true self: arguably good, but with serious cynicism and issues with authority. It's possible that, at some point, Pit, as a true angel, decided that some deity needed to be put in their place, and obliterated one of them (Possibilities include Zeus, Kronos, Gaia, and Ares), which resulted in his being cast down due to violating free will (Seriously, free will is a big deal in the Bible), and so he Fell. Palutena found him and took mercy on him, wiping his memory and replacing his burnt-up wings with fake ones, so he would not turn evil, and gave him the power of flight to prevent him from really thinking about why he can't fly. If he flies for too long, his wings burn up, and they even make specific mention of him falling. This could be because his wings are already burnt up. Also, note that even though he's only a singular servant of a (judging from the strength of her troops and how she never actually fights, despite the fact that she seems like she could curb stomp one of the underlings) relatively minor deity, he's able to defeat, single handedly, all the power of the Aurum gathered in a single form, with almost no help whatsoever. Yes, he's needed treasures before, but he's actually ''stronger'' without the Three Sacred Treasures, so it's possible that these are {{Magic Feather}}s, and he is just using the power of an ''angel''. Seriously, his power level is all over the place, even with only his ordinary weapon, suggesting he always has access to however much power he needs. Why? He's a fallen angel.angel.

[[WMG: The reason Pit can't fly is because he's secretly [[HalfHumanHybrid part human]].]]
Perhaps he's the result of a union between a mortal and someone of divine heritage, or maybe he was a boy who fell to an Underworld attack that Palutena took pity on and revived as her champion due to his intense devotion to her. Either way, Pit has at least some humanity in him, resulting in his lack of the ability to fly. His partial humanity would also explain a few other things:
* The reason why he seems so weak compared to the other gods' champions is because he ''is'' weak compared to them. Had he been a full angel, he likely would have had some divine powers like Phosphora's lightning, Cragalanche's strength and rock powers, or... whatever Pandora does. Instead, he's left to use weapons and skill to even the odds against his foes.
* Pyrrhon sees Pit as an equal, and Pyrrhon's divine heritage is "questionable." The self-proclaimed sun god might have sensed a kindred spirit in Pit.
* The gods tend to pick on Pit. They also badmouth humans nigh-constantly. It's possible that they know about his heritage/origins. If they don't then it would at least give a reason for Pit to be so sensitive when he's asked why he can't fly; he doesn't want to give them more things to make fun of.
5th Feb '17 7:24:38 AM allwarden47
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* I'd disagree with this. When he showed up originally, Palutena said that she was honored he knew who she was. This was one of her unusally sincere moments where she probably wasn't trolling. Considering Dyntos and Hades, maybe all of the major gods are extremely eccentric and his reputation preceded him. He displays a lot of power in a base, human sized form. When Palutena was in a similar form, she wasn't anywhere ''near'' that level of power. Hades would probably similar to Palutena if he took on a small form. Also, most ancient pantheons were... quirky... to say the least. For a god, Pyrrhon's behavior is run of the mill.
11th Aug '16 5:42:34 PM ZeroL
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Viridi herself says "if you soak for too long, it'll rewind things too far, and that can get weird". Perhaps she's speaking from experience. Perhaps she used to be an adult goddess like Palutena, but something happened to her that required her to take a dip in the Rewind Spring to fix (probably related to the Chaos Kin), but she stayed in for too long, reverting her body (and possibly mind, going by how childish she acts) back into that of a child.

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Viridi herself says "if you soak for too long, it'll rewind things too far, and that can get weird". Perhaps she's speaking from experience. Perhaps she used to be an adult goddess like Palutena, but something happened to her that required her to take a dip in the Rewind Spring to fix (probably related to the Chaos Kin), but she stayed in for too long, reverting her body (and possibly mind, going by how childish she acts) back into that of a child.child.

[[WMG: Pit is actually a fallen angel from Christanity.]]
The Mirror of Truth creates Dark Pit as a "true" copy of Pit, and they decide he broke it before Pittoo was complete. However, this troper believes that Dark Pit is the reflection of Pit's true self: arguably good, but with serious cynicism and issues with authority. It's possible that, at some point, Pit, as a true angel, decided that some deity needed to be put in their place, and obliterated one of them (Possibilities include Zeus, Kronos, Gaia, and Ares), which resulted in his being cast down due to violating free will (Seriously, free will is a big deal in the Bible), and so he Fell. Palutena found him and took mercy on him, wiping his memory and replacing his burnt-up wings with fake ones, so he would not turn evil, and gave him the power of flight to prevent him from really thinking about why he can't fly. If he flies for too long, his wings burn up, and they even make specific mention of him falling. This could be because his wings are already burnt up. Also, note that even though he's only a singular servant of a (judging from the strength of her troops and how she never actually fights, despite the fact that she seems like she could curb stomp one of the underlings) relatively minor deity, he's able to defeat, single handedly, all the power of the Aurum gathered in a single form, with almost no help whatsoever. Yes, he's needed treasures before, but he's actually ''stronger'' without the Three Sacred Treasures, so it's possible that these are {{Magic Feather}}s, and he is just using the power of an ''angel''. Seriously, his power level is all over the place, even with only his ordinary weapon, suggesting he always has access to however much power he needs. Why? He's a fallen angel.
1st Jun '16 6:36:31 PM Zoroark69
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Viridi herself says "if you soak for too long, it'll rewind things too far, and that can get weird". She's speaking from experience. Something happened to her that required her to take a dip in the Rewind Spring to fix (probably related to the Chaos Kin), but she stayed in for too long, reverting herself back into a child.

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Viridi herself says "if you soak for too long, it'll rewind things too far, and that can get weird". She's Perhaps she's speaking from experience. Something Perhaps she used to be an adult goddess like Palutena, but something happened to her that required her to take a dip in the Rewind Spring to fix (probably related to the Chaos Kin), but she stayed in for too long, reverting herself her body (and possibly mind, going by how childish she acts) back into that of a child.
1st Jun '16 6:34:24 PM Zoroark69
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It also explains why his outfit is incredibly fashionable.

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It also explains why his outfit is incredibly fashionable.fashionable.

[[WMG: Viridi's young appearance is a result of staying in the Rewind Spring for too long.]]
Viridi herself says "if you soak for too long, it'll rewind things too far, and that can get weird". She's speaking from experience. Something happened to her that required her to take a dip in the Rewind Spring to fix (probably related to the Chaos Kin), but she stayed in for too long, reverting herself back into a child.
19th Feb '16 7:06:52 AM iamsolarflare
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Viridi became quite upset about this and was frustrated that those "mean old gods" would use her as a Pawn as they manipulated kids like her and Pit to do their dirty work. While Poseidon and Paultena try to reason with Viridi, Dyntos will scold Viridi about necessary this was. Namely how Hades tried to use Viridi as an UnwittingPawn too and told her how if the Reset Bomb did truly work how many souls Hades would've been given if it did. Naturally this upsets Viridi as she wants to deny it but the other gods tried to convince her that if her plans truly did succeed than it would've made Hades a lot more powerful. Pit feels rather conflicted about this namely how he is glad that the Reset Bombs didn't actually kill anyone but does understand why Viridi is so upset about this and kind of feels bad for her. (Both Pit and Viridi feel conflicted on how it seems that both Palutena and Auron knew about this plan the whole time, as Palutena and Auron try to reason with Pit and Viridi respectively about it. Particularly Auron as he tries to tell Viridi that the gods would've never actually allowed Viridi to try to destroy humanity so he made sure that the Reset Bombs did not actually destroy anyone in the towns.) Though Pit does point out that if the Reset Bombs have been saving people from the Underworld Army then why was he sent to destroy the Pod? But then the gods gave him an explanation that they needed Pit to think that the Reset Bombs were dangerous and had to be stopped. Namely on how if the Reset Bombs were kept around any longer than someone else (such as the Underworld Army) may find out their true purpose. So in other words Viridi's involvement in this incident was planned out by the other gods as a part of their plan against Hades. Granted they had a couple of setbacks on their way namely the Aurum Invasion and the Chaos Kin incident (in which the latter was a much bigger setback) but still their plan did manage to work in the end.

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Viridi became quite upset about this and was frustrated that those "mean old gods" would use her as a Pawn as they manipulated kids like her and Pit to do their dirty work. While Poseidon and Paultena try to reason with Viridi, Dyntos will scold Viridi about necessary this was. Namely how Hades tried to use Viridi as an UnwittingPawn too and told her how if the Reset Bomb did truly work how many souls Hades would've been given if it did. Naturally this upsets Viridi as she wants to deny it but the other gods tried to convince her that if her plans truly did succeed than it would've made Hades a lot more powerful. Pit feels rather conflicted about this namely how he is glad that the Reset Bombs didn't actually kill anyone but does understand why Viridi is so upset about this and kind of feels bad for her. (Both Pit and Viridi feel conflicted on how it seems that both Palutena and Auron knew about this plan the whole time, as Palutena and Auron try to reason with Pit and Viridi respectively about it. Particularly Auron as he tries to tell Viridi that the gods would've never actually allowed Viridi to try to destroy humanity so he made sure that the Reset Bombs did not actually destroy anyone in the towns.) Though Pit does point out that if the Reset Bombs have been saving people from the Underworld Army then why was he sent to destroy the Pod? But then the gods gave him an explanation that they needed Pit to think that the Reset Bombs were dangerous and had to be stopped. Namely on how if the Reset Bombs were kept around any longer than someone else (such as the Underworld Army) may find out their true purpose. So in other words Viridi's involvement in this incident was planned out by the other gods as a part of their plan against Hades. Granted they had a couple of setbacks on their way namely the Aurum Invasion and the Chaos Kin incident (in which the latter was a much bigger setback) but still their plan did manage to work in the end.end.

[[WMG: Magnus is actually a Hunter from VideoGame/{{Bloodborne}}.]]
He wields what would normally be a rather impractical weapon (large and heavy) in a skilled manner, and seems to treat everything around him as "yep, standard shit as always." Even during the war against Palutena, he doesn't seem surprised at her sudden change in morals. This ''could'' be the result of three years of war, but it could also be because he's seen this kind of thing before - with Yharnam and the Great Ones.

It also explains why his outfit is incredibly fashionable.
8th Feb '16 6:23:20 PM Pokejedservo
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[[WMG: The sequel will try to put some [[AuthorsSavingThrow Damage Control]] regarding Viridi's KarmaHoudini status.]]
One of the known complaints people have with the game is Viridi's KarmaHoudini status due to how she never truly got her comeuppance for the Reset Bombs incident. One way or another they will try to do something about Viridi's status either have her truly go back into her villain role and then truly get her comeuppance this time or she learns the error of her ways and stay good this time. (Which path the sequel will take however is uncertain.)



They're both [[spoiler:fire]]-themed, both wanted control, both have [[spoiler: glowy eyes]], and both were full of themselves. An ulterior motive to why [[spoiler: Pyrrhon wanted to control the Aurum]] might have been to avenge Orcos. As soon as [[spoiler:Pyrrhon took control]], however, the power went to [[spoiler:his]] head and [[spoiler:he]] forgot about it.

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They're both [[spoiler:fire]]-themed, both wanted control, both have [[spoiler: glowy eyes]], and both were full of themselves. An ulterior motive to why [[spoiler: Pyrrhon wanted to control the Aurum]] might have been to avenge Orcos. As soon as [[spoiler:Pyrrhon took control]], however, the power went to [[spoiler:his]] head and [[spoiler:he]] forgot about it.it.

[[WMG: Viridi's involvement with this whole situation was a BatmanGambit from the Older God's and was a part of their plans to fight Hades.]]
The older gods such as Dyntos, Poseidon and even Lady Palutena knew about Hades treacherous plans against life on earth so they worked together to find a way to stop him. Due to Hades getting the humans to war against each other over the Wish Seed in which this angered Viridi so much she tried to send her Forces of Nature to destroy Humanity with her Reset Bombs. This was actually a part of the other God's plans against Hades. Now you might ask why would the other gods be willing to aid Viridi's plans since her Reset Bombs were going to wipe out humanity? Turns out it will be revealed that the Reset Bombs never actually killed any humans at all in fact all the vines and foliage protected the affected towns from the Underworld Army in which this news shocks both Pit and Viridi. How could this be you ask? Remember that Viridi says that the purpose of the Reset Bombs was to kill all the humans in the town but keep all the other life forms safe, in which it turns out only the latter was true. (Also Pit did manage to find a fairly good amount of survivors in the Reset Bomb's aftermath.) It was also revealed that the fact Viridi was soon trying to fight Hades forces with her Forces of Nature was used as a distraction to keep Hades busy.

Viridi became quite upset about this and was frustrated that those "mean old gods" would use her as a Pawn as they manipulated kids like her and Pit to do their dirty work. While Poseidon and Paultena try to reason with Viridi, Dyntos will scold Viridi about necessary this was. Namely how Hades tried to use Viridi as an UnwittingPawn too and told her how if the Reset Bomb did truly work how many souls Hades would've been given if it did. Naturally this upsets Viridi as she wants to deny it but the other gods tried to convince her that if her plans truly did succeed than it would've made Hades a lot more powerful. Pit feels rather conflicted about this namely how he is glad that the Reset Bombs didn't actually kill anyone but does understand why Viridi is so upset about this and kind of feels bad for her. (Both Pit and Viridi feel conflicted on how it seems that both Palutena and Auron knew about this plan the whole time, as Palutena and Auron try to reason with Pit and Viridi respectively about it. Particularly Auron as he tries to tell Viridi that the gods would've never actually allowed Viridi to try to destroy humanity so he made sure that the Reset Bombs did not actually destroy anyone in the towns.) Though Pit does point out that if the Reset Bombs have been saving people from the Underworld Army then why was he sent to destroy the Pod? But then the gods gave him an explanation that they needed Pit to think that the Reset Bombs were dangerous and had to be stopped. Namely on how if the Reset Bombs were kept around any longer than someone else (such as the Underworld Army) may find out their true purpose. So in other words Viridi's involvement in this incident was planned out by the other gods as a part of their plan against Hades. Granted they had a couple of setbacks on their way namely the Aurum Invasion and the Chaos Kin incident (in which the latter was a much bigger setback) but still their plan did manage to work in the end.
21st Sep '15 1:18:05 PM steven_hunyady
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21st Sep '15 1:17:57 PM steven_hunyady
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[[WMG:The Aurum Brain itself is a God]]
When Pyrrhon hijacks the brain and "levels up" he can show himself as an astral projection, which he couldn't do before, and only the gods can do. Also the Aurum Brain has troops, which only the gods have troops on that level of power. Now whether the Aurum Brain is capable of feeling emotion is another story altogether.
8th Sep '15 10:55:23 PM DarkChirano
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But, what about his master? Well, the most easy conclusion is that it would be Odin, but the Chariot Master says he is dead. This would imply that gods in the KI:U universe can die, which is reinforced by the danger of killing Palutena in "Palutena's Temple".

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But, what about his master? Well, the most easy conclusion is that it would be Odin, but the Chariot Master says he is dead. This would imply that gods in the KI:U universe can die, which is reinforced by the danger of killing Palutena in "Palutena's Temple".Temple".

[[WMG: Pyrrhon is [[spoiler: Orcos's son.]]]]
They're both [[spoiler:fire]]-themed, both wanted control, both have [[spoiler: glowy eyes]], and both were full of themselves. An ulterior motive to why [[spoiler: Pyrrhon wanted to control the Aurum]] might have been to avenge Orcos. As soon as [[spoiler:Pyrrhon took control]], however, the power went to [[spoiler:his]] head and [[spoiler:he]] forgot about it.
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