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21st Sep '15 1:18:05 PM steven_hunyady
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21st Sep '15 1:17:57 PM steven_hunyady
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[[WMG:The Aurum Brain itself is a God]] When Pyrrhon hijacks the brain and "levels up" he can show himself as an astral projection, which he couldn't do before, and only the gods can do. Also the Aurum Brain has troops, which only the gods have troops on that level of power. Now whether the Aurum Brain is capable of feeling emotion is another story altogether.
8th Sep '15 10:55:23 PM DarkChirano
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But, what about his master? Well, the most easy conclusion is that it would be Odin, but the Chariot Master says he is dead. This would imply that gods in the KI:U universe can die, which is reinforced by the danger of killing Palutena in "Palutena's Temple".
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But, what about his master? Well, the most easy conclusion is that it would be Odin, but the Chariot Master says he is dead. This would imply that gods in the KI:U universe can die, which is reinforced by the danger of killing Palutena in "Palutena's Temple".Temple". [[WMG: Pyrrhon is [[spoiler: Orcos's son.]]]] They're both [[spoiler:fire]]-themed, both wanted control, both have [[spoiler: glowy eyes]], and both were full of themselves. An ulterior motive to why [[spoiler: Pyrrhon wanted to control the Aurum]] might have been to avenge Orcos. As soon as [[spoiler:Pyrrhon took control]], however, the power went to [[spoiler:his]] head and [[spoiler:he]] forgot about it.
13th Jun '15 2:42:22 PM girum
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To only add to this, they use a largely white and otherwise light color scheme, have clear organization but no clear control mechanism, can corrupt those who come into contact with them, have similar powers (for example, the enemies that shoot black holes and the gravity beams from high-level Creeps), and generally ooze cyberpunk.
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To only add to this, they use a largely white and otherwise light color scheme, have clear organization but no clear control mechanism, can corrupt those who come into contact with them, have similar powers (for example, the enemies that shoot black holes and the gravity beams from high-level Creeps), and generally ooze cyberpunk.cyberpunk. [[WMG: The Chariot Master is Thor or other Nordic God]] He has power over lightning, or at least is a leit-motif of his. Viridi and himself also speak of him as a warrior, making allusions to this term several times throughout the level, having even her stating that the Master dies as a brave one. But, what about his master? Well, the most easy conclusion is that it would be Odin, but the Chariot Master says he is dead. This would imply that gods in the KI:U universe can die, which is reinforced by the danger of killing Palutena in "Palutena's Temple".
3rd May '15 11:03:46 PM nombretomado
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He's one of the most famous figures of ClassicalMythology, so it would not be surprising for him to make a appearance in some way, maybe with a different name.
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He's one of the most famous figures of ClassicalMythology, Myth/ClassicalMythology, so it would not be surprising for him to make a appearance in some way, maybe with a different name.

* They introduce a major figure in GreekMythology, give him unique artwork and voiced dialogue, and yet only have him appear in one chapter, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse never to be mentioned again afterwards?]] [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail That seems a little suspicious if you ask me.]] If there's a sequel, I'm willing to bet he'll be given a much larger role, maybe even being a major villain. After all, his views on humans are very similar to [[spoiler:Viridi's]], and it's shown that [[spoiler:she]] hasn't gone back on [[spoiler:her]] views in the ending. Maybe they'll team up to KillAllHumans?
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* They introduce a major figure in GreekMythology, Myth/GreekMythology, give him unique artwork and voiced dialogue, and yet only have him appear in one chapter, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse never to be mentioned again afterwards?]] [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail That seems a little suspicious if you ask me.]] If there's a sequel, I'm willing to bet he'll be given a much larger role, maybe even being a major villain. After all, his views on humans are very similar to [[spoiler:Viridi's]], and it's shown that [[spoiler:she]] hasn't gone back on [[spoiler:her]] views in the ending. Maybe they'll team up to KillAllHumans?
20th Apr '15 7:19:34 AM iamsolarflare
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** [[spoiler:And Palutena's troops themselves in the Chaos Kin arc.]]
20th Apr '15 7:17:01 AM iamsolarflare
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He did direct this game in addition to ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'', and for this game he left the translation to well-known WesternAnimation script writers who knew Japanese and were more than capable of {{Woolseyism}}. ''Kirby'' games hadn't been script-heavy in the first place, and Sakurai presumably decided to see what Western preferences really were and leave at least some localization up to them. The visual effects still retain some of the TropeNamer, for instance Dark Pit easily dispatching the Underworld Gatekeeper rather than barely finishing it off, and Sakurai was the most important person by far both here and in ''Kirby'', so it's easy to see how he could've been the one behind it all.
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He did direct this game in addition to ''Franchise/{{Kirby}}'', and for this game he left the translation to well-known WesternAnimation script writers who knew Japanese and were more than capable of {{Woolseyism}}. ''Kirby'' games hadn't been script-heavy in the first place, and Sakurai presumably decided to see what Western preferences really were and leave at least some localization up to them. The visual effects still retain some of the TropeNamer, for instance Dark Pit easily dispatching the Underworld Gatekeeper rather than barely finishing it off, and Sakurai was the most important person by far both here and in ''Kirby'', so it's easy to see how he could've been the one behind it all.all. [[WMG: The Aurum are actually the Process, from {{Transistor}}.]] After the events of Transistor, the Process where shunted off to... well, we don't know. We never find out. But come Kid Icarus: Uprising, we end up being face to face from these space aliens ''out of nowhere''. Guess what they're doing? Yep, just like the Process did to Cloudbank, they're eating the earth. To only add to this, they use a largely white and otherwise light color scheme, have clear organization but no clear control mechanism, can corrupt those who come into contact with them, have similar powers (for example, the enemies that shoot black holes and the gravity beams from high-level Creeps), and generally ooze cyberpunk.
13th Apr '15 11:19:31 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Pit is actually [[DeadRising Frank West]]]]
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[[WMG: Pit is actually [[DeadRising [[VideoGame/DeadRising Frank West]]]]
12th Mar '15 10:44:12 AM MattDruzian
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Hades mentions that Thanatos ''does'' have special privelages, and gives a lot of attention to him in Chapter 14. Furthermore, of all the minions Pit defeated in the Medusa arc, Thanatos is the only one Hades revived.
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Hades mentions that Thanatos ''does'' have special privelages, privileges, and gives a lot of attention to him in Chapter 14. Furthermore, of all the minions Pit defeated in the Medusa arc, Thanatos is the only one Hades revived.
19th Nov '14 12:35:29 PM Luigifan
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* But then what was their ''original'' form before they invaded anything? They had to start ''somewhere''.

* {{Jossed}}: The recent trailer has Palutena saying that Medusa's followers resurrected her, so it's likely she was actually killed. Though freeing her from the statue [[NiceJobBreakingItHero might still have facillitated that]].
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* {{Jossed}}: The recent trailer has Palutena saying that Medusa's followers resurrected her, so it's likely she was actually killed. Though freeing her from the statue [[NiceJobBreakingItHero might still have facillitated facilitated that]].

[[WMG: Lord Gaol [[StuffedInTheFridge stuffed someone important to]] Magnus in the fridge.]]
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[[WMG: Lord Gaol [[StuffedInTheFridge stuffed someone important to]] to Magnus in the fridge.fridge]].]]

** This is what I thought too. [[WorldsStrongestMan Hercules]] is pretty much synonymous with [[SuperStrength strength]], and personality wise both Hercules and Magnus are [[RatedMForManly manly]] [[TestosteronePoisoning men]].
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** This is what I thought too. [[WorldsStrongestMan Hercules]] is pretty much synonymous with [[SuperStrength strength]], and personality wise personality-wise both Hercules and Magnus are [[RatedMForManly manly]] [[TestosteronePoisoning men]].

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** Not to mention the space pirates in Chapter 8.

The NoFourthWall-ness is kinda remincent of the Disgaea games, doncha think?
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The NoFourthWall-ness is kinda remincent reminiscent of the Disgaea games, doncha think?

* When it comes down to it, something was not resolved between Palutena and Medusa and they both know this, which would explain why Palutena won't say anything during Medusa's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech and allows Medusa to hate her, given that Palutena probably knows she too is in the wrong of her actions.
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* When it comes down to it, something was not resolved between Palutena and Medusa and they both know this, which would explain why Palutena won't say anything during Medusa's TheReasonYouSuckSpeech and allows Medusa to hate her, given that Palutena probably knows she too is in the wrong of in her actions.

** Supported by the dialogue in chapter 15. Palutena and Pit have a heartwarming conversation only to be spited by [[spoiler:Viridi and Hades]]. Palutena gets angry with them and says that they wouldn't understand what it's like to have someone like Pit. And it's true. The Gods are shown to not have someone by their side like Palutena and as a result, they act out on impulse. Additionally [[spoiler:when Palutena turns her back on humanity because of the Chaos Kin, Viridi and Hades act like this is her true personality with only Pit being in denial, so she might have been a bitch before meeting Pit, hence her feud with Medusa is not as black and white as it's made out to be.]] Concerning the other Gods/Goddesses, though, this troper is certain that [[spoiler:Phosphora is fine as she probably serves as the {{Morality Pet}}/{{Morality Chain}} to Viridi, to the point that she spent three years trying to revive her, and Phosphora doesn't show any signs of insecurities like the other Gods/Goddesses are implied to have. And Viridi is probably reviving Arlon after Phosphora and given that Arlon is her butler, he doesn't need emotions like loneliness as his duty is to serve and obey Viridi no matter what.]] Finally, [[spoiler:Pandora might be lonely, given her whole labyrinth is similar to a toy room in a sense; she made a race track in it, and it has many puzzles that are dedicated to her. And Thanatos is the God of Death, and both the God of Death and God of the Dead are described as lonely in Greek mythology.]]
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** ** Supported by the dialogue in chapter 15. Palutena and Pit have a heartwarming conversation conversation, only to be spited by [[spoiler:Viridi and Hades]]. Palutena gets angry with them and says that they wouldn't understand what it's like to have someone like Pit. And it's true. The Gods are shown to not have someone by their side like Palutena and as a result, they act out on impulse. Additionally [[spoiler:when Palutena turns her back on humanity because of the Chaos Kin, Viridi and Hades act like this is her true personality with only Pit being in denial, so she might have been a bitch before meeting Pit, hence her feud with Medusa is not as black and white as it's made out to be.]] Concerning the other Gods/Goddesses, though, this troper is certain that [[spoiler:Phosphora is fine fine, as she probably serves as the {{Morality Pet}}/{{Morality Chain}} to Viridi, to the point that she spent three years trying to revive her, and Phosphora doesn't show any signs of insecurities like the other Gods/Goddesses are implied to have. And Viridi is probably reviving Arlon after Phosphora and given that Arlon is her butler, he doesn't need emotions like loneliness loneliness, as his duty is to serve and obey Viridi no matter what.]] Finally, [[spoiler:Pandora might be lonely, given her whole labyrinth is similar to a toy room in a sense; she made a race track in it, and it has many puzzles that are dedicated to her. And Thanatos is the God of Death, and both the God of Death and God of the Dead are described as lonely in Greek mythology.]]

This idea stems from the fact concerning Pit and his dark side. So if Pit is the defination of IncorruptiblePurePureness in the KIU universe then that means that Pittoo also has the same pure traits but more subdued. For one thing, Dark Pit is neutral at best instead of being pure evil like the other Nintendo hero counterparts (which shows that despite being heroes, their dark side shows that there is indeed evil in their hearts, in contrast to Pit, who knows no evil and can only manifest someone that is neutral at best. The main point though of this WMG is that [[spoiler:according to the Chaos Kin ash idol, it says that only by eating Dark Pit's soul can it be brought back to life at full health.]] Now, according to [[spoiler:Viridi, the Chaos Kin would only prey on the souls of the pure hearted people, hence why it tried to eat Palutena's soul for three years but to no avail until Pit forced it out of her. Now, it could have went after Palutena again or Pit given that they had their guard down, but it went after Dark Pit who turned to leave. Why? Because apparently, Dark Pit's soul was pure enough to revive the Chaos Kin despite being a manifestion of the darkness in Pit's heart.]] This might mean that DarkIsNotEvil in the purest of forms.
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This idea stems from the fact concerning Pit and his dark side. So if Pit is the defination definition of IncorruptiblePurePureness in the KIU universe universe, then that means that Pittoo also has the same pure traits but more subdued. For one thing, Dark Pit is neutral at best instead of being pure evil like the other Nintendo hero counterparts (which shows that despite being heroes, their dark side shows that there is indeed evil in their hearts, in contrast to Pit, who knows no evil and can only manifest someone that is neutral at best. The main point though of this WMG is that [[spoiler:according to the Chaos Kin ash idol, it says that only by eating Dark Pit's soul can it be brought back to life at full health.]] Now, according to [[spoiler:Viridi, the Chaos Kin would only prey on the souls of the pure hearted pure-hearted people, hence why it tried to eat Palutena's soul for three years but to no avail until Pit forced it out of her. Now, it could have went after Palutena again or Pit given that they had their guard down, but it went after Dark Pit Pit, who turned to leave. Why? Because apparently, Dark Pit's soul was pure enough to revive the Chaos Kin despite being a manifestion manifestation of the darkness in Pit's heart.]] This might mean that DarkIsNotEvil in the purest of forms.

[[spoiler:The Chariot Master]] appears to be made of a plasma-like substance, just like the Space Pirates, whose idol states are actually [[EnergyBeing energy beings]]. He also flies through outer space, and he mentions [[spoiler:his master dying]], which is a definite connection. My guess is that, either during the initial raid on the Space Pirates' ship or [[spoiler:when Palutena went crazy over the three intervening years,]] most of the Space Pirates (save at least [[LastOfHisKind one]]) ended up being killed. * [[spoiler:This is highly unlikely due to a number of things. The most obvious is his armor doesn't fit the theme of the Space Pirates encountered in Uprising. The energy his body is made of has the appearance of flames rather than the electricity that the Space Pirates were made of. Also during battle he states that his body had broken down, meaning that his current form was not how he had always appeared. Earlier on during the climb of the tower, an Aether Ring is encountered. When asked why he had a vehicle of the gods, he claims it should be obvious, which shows that he has a connection to a god (likely his fallen master). In addition to all this, he shares a bit of his history as an honorable warrior during battle, which doesn't match up with what the Space Pirates do. Although not proof, he showed he had great respect for his master, something that none of the Space Pirates had for their leader (the Captain's idol states he was hated by all his crew). On the note of the Captain, his idol also stated his name was unpronouncible in the human tongue, implying that the Space Pirates had their own language. This is further driven home with the unintelligible babble he shouts before the Space Kracken appears. The Chariot Master, on the other hand, speaks Basic very fluently. The final point that should be made is that all idols show their affiliation symbol in the background. The Space Pirates have their own symbol while the Chariot Master has the neutral character symbol.]]
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[[spoiler:The Chariot Master]] appears to be made of a plasma-like substance, just like the Space Pirates, whose idol states they are actually [[EnergyBeing energy beings]]. He also flies through outer space, and he mentions [[spoiler:his master dying]], which is a definite connection. My guess is that, either during the initial raid on the Space Pirates' ship or [[spoiler:when Palutena went crazy over the three intervening years,]] most of the Space Pirates (save at least [[LastOfHisKind one]]) ended up being killed. * [[spoiler:This is highly unlikely due to a number of things. The most obvious is his armor armor, which doesn't fit the theme of the Space Pirates encountered in Uprising. The energy his body is made of has the appearance of flames rather than the electricity that the Space Pirates were made of. Also Also, during battle battle, he states that his body had broken down, meaning that his current form was not how he had always appeared. Earlier on during the climb of the tower, an Aether Ring is encountered. When asked why he had a vehicle of the gods, he claims it should be obvious, which shows that he has a connection to a god (likely his fallen master). In addition to all this, he shares a bit of his history as an honorable warrior during battle, which doesn't match up with what the Space Pirates do. Although not proof, he showed he had great respect for his master, something that none of the Space Pirates had for their leader (the Captain's idol states he was hated by all his crew). On the note of the Captain, his idol also stated his name was unpronouncible unpronounceable in the human tongue, implying that the Space Pirates had their own language. This is further driven home with the unintelligible babble he shouts before the Space Kracken Kraken appears. The Chariot Master, on the other hand, speaks Basic very fluently. The final point that should be made is that all idols show their affiliation symbol in the background. The Space Pirates have their own symbol while the Chariot Master has the neutral character symbol.]]

* [[spoiler:Hades' heart concerns this troper. She thinks that the heart implies that Hades wasn't always evil in the sense that it looks too cute as described by Pit. Despite being a deadly boss, the fact that it gives a cute appearance despite the menancing God that it is part of makes this troper think that this organ shows what type of person Hades was as a lot of other series say. The shape of your heart depends on what type of individual you are.]] * [[spoiler:Hades]] doesn't seem to mind the idea of [[EnemyMine teaming up]] with the other Goddesses to [[spoiler:defend the earth from the Aurum.]] Sure he said he's only working with them because the earth was his and he would be the one to plunge the world in chaos, and despite {{troll}}ing Pit the entire time, he does help out during those chapters despite being...very greedy about it. In comparison to the [[spoiler:Aurum]], who are supposed to be more evil than any of the Gods and Goddesses combined, [[spoiler:Hades]] doesn't seem that bad...then there's the fact that [[spoiler:Hades isn't that bad in comparison to the Chaos Kin.]] All the Gods and Goddesses minus Palutena seem to hate humanity, and it wouldn't be out of character for any of the Gods or Goddesses to [[spoiler:start a pointless war against the humans]] given that this happened often in Greek Mythology, where these divine beings are known for using humans in their squabbles against each other (such as the Trojan war).
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* [[spoiler:Hades' heart concerns this troper. She thinks that the heart implies that Hades wasn't always evil in the sense that it looks too cute as described by Pit. Despite being a deadly boss, the fact that it gives a cute appearance despite the menancing menacing God that it is part of makes this troper think that this organ shows what type of person Hades was as a lot of other series say. The shape of your heart depends on what type of individual you are.]] * [[spoiler:Hades]] doesn't seem to mind the idea of [[EnemyMine teaming up]] with the other Goddesses to [[spoiler:defend the earth from the Aurum.]] Sure Sure, he said he's only working with them because the earth was his and he would be the one to plunge the world in chaos, and despite {{troll}}ing Pit the entire time, he does help out during those chapters despite being...very greedy about it. In comparison to the [[spoiler:Aurum]], who are supposed to be more evil than any of the Gods and Goddesses combined, [[spoiler:Hades]] doesn't seem that bad...then there's the fact that [[spoiler:Hades isn't that bad in comparison to the Chaos Kin.]] All the Gods and Goddesses minus Palutena seem to hate humanity, and it wouldn't be out of character for any of the Gods or Goddesses to [[spoiler:start a pointless war against the humans]] given that this happened often in Greek Mythology, where these divine beings are known for using humans in their squabbles against each other (such as the Trojan war).

* Pay attention to how Palutena, [[spoiler:Viridi, and Hades]] treat Pyrrhon. [[spoiler:Viridi]] treats him with great distain and calls him useless, [[spoiler:Hades]] -- while subtle at best -- acts like he doesn't exist most of the time, and even Palutena calls him out on his stupidity and tends to [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg forget him the most of the three.]] Now despite being the "sun god", he seems to be looked down upon and seems to be weaker than the other Gods/Goddesses. As a result, they don't treat him with any respect. Pit seems to want to know more about him, but Palutena dismisses him upon introduction.
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* Pay attention to how Palutena, [[spoiler:Viridi, and Hades]] treat Pyrrhon. [[spoiler:Viridi]] treats him with great distain disdain and calls him useless, [[spoiler:Hades]] -- while subtle at best -- acts like he doesn't exist most of the time, and even Palutena calls him out on his stupidity and tends to [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg forget him the most of the three.]] Now despite being the "sun god", he seems to be looked down upon and seems to be weaker than the other Gods/Goddesses. As a result, they don't treat him with any respect. Pit seems to want to know more about him, but Palutena dismisses him upon introduction.

* His attitude toward Pit. He's the only God that treats Pit [[WorthyOpponent like an equal]] instead of making fun of him like every other character has done in the entire game. Why is that? Well, when you look at Pit's relationship to the other Deities, he may be the {{Chew Toy}}, but they acknowledge Pit for his strength and reliability [[spoiler:(even Hades acknowledges Pit's strength at the end of the game)]] despite being an angel that can't fly. Pyrrhon, however, can't even get the other Gods/Goddesses to show any respect toward him despite being one of them. * With this information Pyrrhon [[spoiler:merging with the Aurum Brain and trying to gain control of them]] might be a case of trying to finally be acknowledged by them as some of his quotes in-game imply. Also, by [[spoiler:becoming more powerful than the three Deities]], that would make him stronger than Pit, who the three at least acknowledge him for all of his worth.
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* His attitude toward Pit. He's the only God that treats Pit [[WorthyOpponent like an equal]] instead of making fun of him like every other character has done in the entire game. Why is that? Well, when you look at Pit's relationship to the other Deities, he may be the {{Chew Toy}}, but they acknowledge Pit for his strength and reliability [[spoiler:(even Hades acknowledges Pit's strength at the end of the game)]] despite being an angel that can't fly. Pyrrhon, however, can't even get the other Gods/Goddesses to show any respect toward him despite being one of them. them. * With this information information, Pyrrhon [[spoiler:merging with the Aurum Brain and trying to gain control of them]] might be a case of trying to finally be acknowledged by them them, as some of his quotes in-game imply. Also, by [[spoiler:becoming more powerful than the three Deities]], that would make him stronger than Pit, who the three at least acknowledge him for all of his worth.

* They introduce a major figure in GreekMythology, give him unique artwork and voiced dialogue, and yet only have him appear in one chapter, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse never to be mentioned again afterwards?]] [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail That seems a little suspicious if you ask me.]] If there's a sequel, I'm willing to bet he'll be giving a much larger role, maybe even being a major villain. After all, his views on humans are very similar to [[spoiler:Viridi's]], and it's shown that [[spoiler:she]] hasn't gone back on [[spoiler:her]] views in the ending. Maybe they'll team up to KillAllHumans?
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* They introduce a major figure in GreekMythology, give him unique artwork and voiced dialogue, and yet only have him appear in one chapter, [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse never to be mentioned again afterwards?]] [[TheLawOfConservationOfDetail That seems a little suspicious if you ask me.]] If there's a sequel, I'm willing to bet he'll be giving given a much larger role, maybe even being a major villain. After all, his views on humans are very similar to [[spoiler:Viridi's]], and it's shown that [[spoiler:she]] hasn't gone back on [[spoiler:her]] views in the ending. Maybe they'll team up to KillAllHumans?

* Related to the above. Both were JerkassGods in the original myths, and since it's already been established most gods in this universe are Jerkasses anyway, it kinda fits. Zeus' mysterious abscence in ''Uprising'' will be a plot point.
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* Related to the above. Both were JerkassGods in the original myths, and since it's already been established most gods in this universe are Jerkasses anyway, it kinda fits. Zeus' mysterious abscence absence in ''Uprising'' will be a plot point.

No, really. Bear with me here. So, we know from Dark Pit that there's a way to absorb the powers of fallen gods. We know [[spoiler:Virdi hates humans as much as she ever did, the Aurum are only going away for as long as Pyrrhon can keep pushing them, and the Realm of Chaos still exists and we don't know anything about what, if anything, its remaining inhabitants are capable of (assuming the Chaos Kin wasn't alone in there)]]. And there were hints that Palutena has a dark side and/or wasn't always the kind, if trollish, goddess she is in the game. Here's my theory: Sequel 1 has [[spoiler:Pit defeat Viridi for good, but only after learning the power stealing trick from Dark Pit. He uses it to guarantee that even if she resurrects, she won't have the power to threaten humans again (or alternately that she will live, but as a mortal/angel/lesser goddess until she learns to respect human life.) The Aurum and/or creatures from the Realm of Chaos serve as secondary antagonists to keep things interesting, but the Underworld Army is still recovering, so the game focuses on the Forces of Nature and other villains.]] In Sequel 2, Palutena turns on mankind and/or becomes TheDragon to Zeus or some other anti-human "true ruler of Skyworld". Pit, while torn between his old duty of defending humans and his loyalty to Palutena, ultimately decides to fight her and her master (if there is one) and claim their powers as well. However, this time he definitely manages to keep Palutena alive as a mortal or angel (regardless of whether [[spoiler:he did that to Viridi]]), neutralizing her threat but allowing her to reform because he believes that she can (and because, let's face it, killing Palutena after working with her for two games is way too much of a DownerEnding for this series). Along the way, Pit also has to deal with [[spoiler:a resurrected Hades, whose power he also takes so that there won't be a third fight. If the Aurum aren't permanently dealt with in the previous game, he has to take out their leader. The Realm of Chaos may also need to be sealed or destroyed; again, this depends on what the first sequel did with it]]. Poseidon, Pyrrhon, and any other unaffiliated gods could serve as level bosses, allies, or both, but if they have to be killed Pit will take their powers as well. After all that, Pit ends up as the most powerful being in all creation, using his gathered powers and those of any surviving gods to keep the world in balance and guide humanity to a Golden Age. ** Why does this feel like a plot from VideoGame/{{God of War}}? Isn't this the concept of the original Kid Icarus sequel when it was worked on by Factor 5 and had a huge backlash. I mean, Pit would end up {{Knight Templar}} to Kratos' borderline monster and the only reason [[spoiler:Pit attacked Palutena was because of the Chaos Kin]], so chances of him turning on her is highly unlikely. Finally [[spoiler:Viridi pulled a {{Heel Face Turn}} at the end of Uprising and Pit said she was a nice person on the inside, so there would be no reason for Pit to kill her or any of the Gods off. And of course, Viridi only attacked humanity because they got into a pointless war and started destroying nature in the progress. As long as another pointless war doesn't break out, she probably won't attack them again. And of course, she doesn't have any more Reset Bombs, so it would be difficult to wipe out humanity.]] *** [[spoiler:Viridi clearly still isn't happy with the humans at the end of the game, so her HeelFaceTurn is only going to last until they do something stupid again (which, let's face it, they will) and/or she rebuilds a Reset Bomb Depot. Her last line implies that the "happy ending" is only going to last as long as she lets it. The VideoGame/{{God of War}} parallels are definitely there, but it's not like they have to be strong -- Kratos wants revenge and always kills, while Pit would be protecting humans from the selfishness of gods and would avoid killing if possible, so he wouldn't even have to be a KnightTemplar. Really, this theory came from the thought that someone had to rule the Underworld (because it does have a purpose) combined with Viridi's continued hatred of humans.]]
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No, really. Bear with me here. So, we know from Dark Pit that there's a way to absorb the powers of fallen gods. We know [[spoiler:Virdi hates humans as much as she ever did, the Aurum are only going away for as long as Pyrrhon can keep pushing them, and the Realm of Chaos still exists and we don't know anything about what, if anything, its remaining inhabitants are capable of (assuming the Chaos Kin wasn't alone in there)]]. And there were hints that Palutena has a dark side and/or wasn't always the kind, if trollish, goddess she is in the game. Here's my theory: Sequel 1 has [[spoiler:Pit defeat Viridi for good, but only after learning the power stealing trick from Dark Pit. He uses it to guarantee that even if she resurrects, she won't have the power to threaten humans again (or alternately that she will live, but as a mortal/angel/lesser goddess until she learns to respect human life.) life). The Aurum and/or creatures from the Realm of Chaos serve as secondary antagonists to keep things interesting, but the Underworld Army is still recovering, so the game focuses on the Forces of Nature and other villains.]] In Sequel 2, Palutena turns on mankind and/or becomes TheDragon to Zeus or some other anti-human "true ruler of Skyworld". Pit, while torn between his old duty of defending humans and his loyalty to Palutena, ultimately decides to fight her and her master (if there is one) and claim their powers as well. However, this time he definitely manages to keep Palutena alive as a mortal or angel (regardless of whether [[spoiler:he did that to Viridi]]), neutralizing her threat but allowing her to reform because he believes that she can (and because, let's face it, killing Palutena after working with her for two games is way too much of a DownerEnding for this series). Along the way, Pit also has to deal with [[spoiler:a resurrected Hades, whose power he also takes so that there won't be a third fight. If the Aurum aren't permanently dealt with in the previous game, he has to take out their leader. The Realm of Chaos may also need to be sealed or destroyed; again, this depends on what the first sequel did with it]]. Poseidon, Pyrrhon, and any other unaffiliated gods could serve as level bosses, allies, or both, but if they have to be killed Pit will take their powers as well. After all that, Pit ends up as the most powerful being in all creation, using his gathered powers and those of any surviving gods to keep the world in balance and guide humanity to a Golden Age. ** Why does this feel like a plot from VideoGame/{{God of War}}? Isn't this the concept of the original Kid Icarus sequel when it was worked on by Factor 5 and had a huge backlash. backlash? I mean, Pit would end up {{Knight Templar}} to Kratos' borderline monster and the only reason [[spoiler:Pit attacked Palutena was because of the Chaos Kin]], so the chances of him turning on her is highly unlikely. Finally Finally, [[spoiler:Viridi pulled a {{Heel Face Turn}} at the end of Uprising ''Uprising'' and Pit said she was a nice person on the inside, so there would be no reason for Pit to kill her or any of the Gods off. And of course, Viridi only attacked humanity because they got into a pointless war and started destroying nature in the progress. As long as another pointless war doesn't break out, she probably won't attack them again. And of course, she doesn't have any more Reset Bombs, so it would be difficult to wipe out humanity.]] *** [[spoiler:Viridi clearly still isn't happy with the humans at the end of the game, so her HeelFaceTurn is only going to last until they do something stupid again (which, let's face it, they will) and/or she rebuilds a Reset Bomb Depot. Her last line implies that the "happy ending" is only going to last as long as she lets it. The VideoGame/{{God ''VideoGame/{{God of War}} War}}'' parallels are definitely there, but it's not like they have to be strong -- Kratos wants revenge and always kills, while Pit would be protecting humans from the selfishness of gods and would avoid killing if possible, so he wouldn't even have to be a KnightTemplar. Really, this theory came from the thought that someone had to rule the Underworld (because it does have a purpose) combined with Viridi's continued hatred of humans.]]

[[WMG: Zeus is dead, [[spoiler:the Chariot Master was his servant, and Phosphora is his replacement]]]]
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[[WMG: Zeus is dead, [[spoiler:the Chariot Master was his servant, and Phosphora is his replacement]]]]replacement]].]]

[[WMG: Zeus' death is why things get out of control in Uprising]]
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[[WMG: Zeus' death is why things get out of control in Uprising]]''Uprising''.]]

Pyrrhon, like Pit working for Palutena, used to work for the original sun god, who was his master. But somehow, his master died. Pyrrhon's loyalty, along with the trauma on perhaps witnessing this, made him lose his sanity. He tried to do his master's work by replacing him and referring to himself as the sun god, as his idol says he's [[spoiler:self proclaimed]] and Viridi says 'that's what he calls himself anyway.' The other gods couldn't see Pyrrhon as a competent god and treated him with disdain and disrespect. This, coupled with his insanity, made him resent the other gods. So he wanted to find a way to have revenge on all of them, and make them respect him. Even if it meant losing himself completely. He got his wish when he merged himself with [[spoiler:the Aurum Brain]], but he lost his mind, talking in binary. He was unaware of what was actually going on at the time, but his mind was put in lockdown while his body was being controlled. When Pit defeated him, the physical strain of [[spoiler:merging with the Aurum]] and being severely injured in the battle with Pit was fatal. Pyrrhon, also regaining his sanity in the process, realized he was dying and decided to put things right before his demise. This is why he [[spoiler:pushes the Aurum to the other end of the galaxy]] with the hopes that he'll get to be reunited with his master when he dies.
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Pyrrhon, like Pit working for Palutena, used to work for the original sun god, who was his master. But somehow, his master died. Pyrrhon's loyalty, along with the trauma on perhaps witnessing this, made him lose his sanity. He tried to do his master's work by replacing him and referring to himself as the sun god, as his idol says he's [[spoiler:self proclaimed]] [[spoiler:self-proclaimed]] and Viridi says 'that's what he calls himself anyway.' The other gods couldn't see Pyrrhon as a competent god and treated him with disdain and disrespect. This, coupled with his insanity, made him resent the other gods. So he wanted to find a way to have revenge on all of them, and make them respect him. Even if it meant losing himself completely. completely. He got his wish when he merged himself with [[spoiler:the Aurum Brain]], but he lost his mind, talking in binary. He was unaware of what was actually going on at the time, but his mind was put in lockdown while his body was being controlled. When Pit defeated him, the physical strain of [[spoiler:merging with the Aurum]] and being severely injured in the battle with Pit was fatal. Pyrrhon, also regaining his sanity in the process, realized he was dying and decided to put things right before his demise. This is why he [[spoiler:pushes the Aurum to the other end of the galaxy]] with the hopes that he'll get to be reunited with his master when he dies. dies.

[[spoiler: Everything else in that chapter is outright stated to have been created by Dyntos. If he can make copies that are that close to their originals, why would he go to all the work of calling them there?]]
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[[spoiler: Everything [[spoiler:Everything else in that chapter is outright stated to have been created by Dyntos. If he can make copies that are that close to their originals, why would he go to all the work of calling them there?]]

The characters ultimately figure that only Hades would benefit from the on-going war, but that isn't true. While Hades was doing his thing and furthering his own goals, Ares the God of War was benefitting from the war too. Ares decides to lay low and just enjoy the fact that everything was going his way, but then steps in when Hades can no longer carry on the war. [[WMG:Angelic weapons [[FriendlyFireproof cannot hurt humans]]]] On several occasions, Pit is fighting with one or more humans in the vicinity: Magnus and the human army in Chapter 2 and the human soldiers [[spoiler:trapped in the Reset Bomb Forest in chapter 11]]. Gaol is non-fatally knocked out at the end of chapter 2, as if Pit's shots and blows only affected the armor and not her. [[spoiler:The soldiers show no adverse effect from the attacks that sever the vines which hold them. The Chaos Kin used a weapon it made itself, so it could kill humans and attack Magnus in Pit's body, and in chapter 24 Dyntos enchanted either Pit's weapon or Magnus' body so that the two could fight..]] [[WMG: [[spoiler: Gaol is the mother of Magnus's now-deceased child.]]]]
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The characters ultimately figure that only Hades would benefit from the on-going war, but that isn't true. While Hades was doing his thing and furthering his own goals, Ares Ares, the God of War War, was benefitting benefiting from the war too. Ares decides to lay low and just enjoy the fact that everything was going his way, but then steps in when Hades can no longer carry on the war. [[WMG:Angelic weapons [[FriendlyFireproof cannot hurt humans]]]] humans]].]] On several occasions, Pit is fighting with one or more humans in the vicinity: Magnus and the human army in Chapter 2 and the human soldiers [[spoiler:trapped in the Reset Bomb Forest in chapter 11]]. Gaol is non-fatally knocked out at the end of chapter 2, as if Pit's shots and blows only affected the armor and not her. [[spoiler:The soldiers show no adverse effect from the attacks that sever the vines which hold them. The Chaos Kin used a weapon it made itself, so it could kill humans and attack Magnus in Pit's body, and in chapter 24 Dyntos enchanted either Pit's weapon or Magnus' body so that the two could fight..]] fight.]] [[WMG: [[spoiler: Gaol [[spoiler:Gaol is the mother of Magnus's now-deceased child.]]]]

To sum it, there seems to be three main realms, Heaven or Skyworld, Hell or Underworld, and the human world, Earth. Palutena rules over the first and Hades over the second. However, there is no Earth God, as Viridi is nature alone. So while Palutena does take over duties of watching mankind, they have no actual, specific god, so I imagine Pit, the one humans keep seeing saving them, starting to worship him, and it may be that godhood can be attained by many believing in you like a God, so who would be better to get the tittle than mister 'I love humanity'?
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To sum it, there seems to be three main realms, Heaven or Skyworld, Hell or Underworld, and the human world, Earth. Palutena rules over the first and Hades over the second. However, there is no Earth God, as Viridi is nature alone. So while Palutena does take over duties of watching mankind, they have no actual, specific god, so I imagine Pit, the one humans keep seeing saving them, starting to worship him, be worshipped by them, and it may be that godhood can be attained by many believing in you like a God, so who would be better to get the tittle title than mister 'I love humanity'?humanity'?

[[WMG: The Amazing Mirror and the Mirror of Truth are of similar origin]]
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[[WMG: The Amazing Mirror and the Mirror of Truth are of similar origin]]origin.]]

[[WMG: Thanatos was actually directly working under Hades all along, not Medusa]]
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[[WMG: Thanatos was actually directly working under Hades all along, not Medusa]]Medusa.]]

[[WMG: Palutena's change and [[spoiler:the Chaos Kin]].]] The question here is why [[spoiler:the Chaos Kin put Palutena through a BrainwashedAndCrazy campaign against humanity]]. This troper thinks it was all because of her. [[spoiler:The Chaos Kin]] isn't as primitive as everyone might believe. While [[spoiler:it was trying to feed on her soul]], Palutena was just too strong for it. To compensate, [[spoiler:the Chaos Kin attacked her vulnerabilities. By turning her loyal follower Pit into an empty shell and then using her to kill the humans she felt compassion for]], all of it was meant to [[spoiler:, figuratively and literally, break her spirit to make it easier for the Chaos Kin to feed. It took three years to tear out her soul, it might have taken as many as ten without more drastic measures.]]
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[[WMG: Palutena's change and [[spoiler:the Chaos Kin]].]] Kin]]]] The question here is why [[spoiler:the Chaos Kin put Palutena through a BrainwashedAndCrazy campaign against humanity]]. This troper thinks it was all because of her. [[spoiler:The Chaos Kin]] isn't as primitive as everyone might believe. While [[spoiler:it was trying to feed on her soul]], Palutena was just too strong for it. To compensate, [[spoiler:the Chaos Kin attacked her vulnerabilities. By turning her loyal follower Pit into an empty shell and then using her to kill the humans she felt compassion for]], all of it was meant to [[spoiler:, to[[spoiler:, figuratively and literally, break her spirit to make it easier for the Chaos Kin to feed. It took three years to tear out her soul, it might have taken as many as ten without more drastic measures.]]

Dark Pit met Viridi while Pit was at the Seafloor Palace. The Chaos Kin was at the time a prisoner of the Space Pirates, then caused the deaths of the little girl's parents after Chapter 9. It made Hades wish for the girl's parents back so she would not want revenge. But then Dark Pit defeated it and took it to Arlon, who was finishing the Lunar Sanctum. Over the next few chapters, the girl found out who was behind her parents' death, swore revenge and went on a three-year quest for the Ring of Chaos.
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Dark Pit met Viridi while Pit was at the Seafloor Palace. The Chaos Kin was at the time a prisoner of the Space Pirates, then caused the deaths of the little girl's parents after Chapter 9. It made Hades wish for the girl's parents back so she would not want revenge. But then Dark Pit defeated it and took it to Arlon, who was finishing the Lunar Sanctum. Over the next few chapters, the girl found out who was behind her parents' death, swore revenge revenge, and went on a three-year quest for the Ring of Chaos.
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