History WMG / JadeEmpire

Admittedly, this isn't ''that'' good of a fit since we never see any of the traditional [=D&D=] races, although Kara-Tur never had many of them (besides humans) to begin with anyway. But in ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' you can find weapons from the "Jade Empire" (i.e., Kara-Tur) and many of the design elements of Jade Empire are clearly influenced by [=D&D=]'s take on eastern culture (such as the Celestial Bureaucracy). Any differences can be accounted for by the Spellplague, which not only switched up geography but also led to devastating climate shifts. Eventually, the Brothers Sun decide to take out the god they deem responsible, the Water Dragon, killing her and stealing her power (a common theme in ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'').

Nothing in particular supports this except for a gut feeling that Bioware would have wanted to link the first game to the second, and upon the completion of the Open Fist path, there's nothing left that would have been required for a player to handle. It would also allow them to break free from the Lucas Arts-mandated "Light Side (i.e. Good Path) is always canonical" theme they had to follow for the second KnightsOfTheOldRepublic to follow the first.
* Damn right nothing supports it. For one thing, Bioware didn't make KnightsOfTheOldRepublic 2 because they wanted control over the games they made, not because of some asinine dispute over canon. For another, Obsidian's solution allowed the player to pick what they viewed as canon anyway. If we ever get a Jade Empire follow-up I would expect something similar, the game asks what the Spirit Monk did and accepts your answers as canon.
* I disagree. ''Franchise/MassEffect'' handles it nicely. The choices you made, good or ill, are what comes back to bite you in the butt later - alignment be damned. Plus, a LOT of the Closed Fist choices in JE were even more ChaoticStupid than they were in KnightsOfTheOldRepublic. Gee, am I going to side with the relatively benign Fox Spirit or the nasty critter that would ''have me for lunch?'' And there is also a big difference between "allowing the town hardship to make it stronger" and "damning the town for a handful of silver."

But perhaps old Lord Lao is still around, putting his knowledge to good use in the Fire Nation. It would certainly explain the drill ;)

Admittedly, this isn't ''that'' good of a fit since we never see any of the traditional [=D&D=] races, although Kara-Tur never had many of them (besides humans) to begin with anyway. But in ''VideoGame/BaldursGate'' you can find weapons from the "Jade Empire" (i.e., Kara-Tur) and many of the design elements of Jade Empire are clearly influenced by [=D&D=]'s take on eastern culture (such as the Celestial Bureaucracy). Any differences can be accounted for by the Spellplague, which not only switched up geography but also led to devastating climate shifts. Eventually, the Brothers Sun decide to take out the god they deem responsible, the Water Dragon, killing her and stealing her power (a common theme in ''ForgottenRealms'').

* It's even got built-in multiplayer possibilities to appease the [[ElectronicArts corporate overlords]] in the form of Arena fights, and the fact that the enemies in the game don't tend to have access to things players don't.

[[WMG: Had BioWare decided to stall a little and release ''VideoGame/JadeEmpire'' on the Xbox 360, the Jade Epire franchise would've been a huge success.]]

Admittedly, this isn't ''that'' good of a fit since we never see any of the traditional [=D&D=] races, although Kara-Tur never had many of them (besides humans) to begin with anyway. But in ''BaldursGate'' you can find weapons from the "Jade Empire" (i.e., Kara-Tur) and many of the design elements of Jade Empire are clearly influenced by [=D&D=]'s take on eastern culture (such as the Celestial Bureaucracy). Any differences can be accounted for by the Spellplague, which not only switched up geography but also led to devastating climate shifts. Eventually, the Brothers Sun decide to take out the god they deem responsible, the Water Dragon, killing her and stealing her power (a common theme in ''ForgottenRealms'').

[[WMG: Sun Lian's heir will be a son named [[JourneyToTheWest Wukong]].]]

[[WMG: Had BioWare decided to stall a little and release JadeEmpire on the Xbox 360, the Jade Epire franchise would've been a huge success.]]

Just look at ''Franchise/MassEffect'' and ''Franchise/DragonAge''. JadeEmpire has just as much charm as those series.

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They end their drought, but at the cost of a slower damnation. By suspending the Water Dragon between life and death, her Undead counterpart is free to reign. The shepherds of the dead are destroyed, and the gate to the Underworld is blocked. The golems are powered by the undead, the spirits of the dead can't rest or be destroyed. Eventually, the Jade Empire would be like [[FinalFantasyX Seymour's idea for Spira - a land where there are none among the living, only ghosts going slowly mad from their imprisonment]].

[[WMG: Master Li actually does have sorrow for the murder of his family, but is in denial and about it]]
While Master Li’s insists that he viewed his murdered family as mere possessions and only was angered because his brother Sun Hai killed them without his permission, it’s only because he’s in denial about it. He was actually severely affected by their (or in his child’s sake, apparent) murder. The Water Dragon says that he keeps this emotion hidden from himself, and that the murder fuels his actions, even if he doesn’t fully understand it. Also, if the character reveals to him that Dawn Star is his child, he becomes very emotional and tells the character that he has no right to talk about it. Only after taking time to think about it does he say in a calm voice that he didn’t really care about them. To this troper, it seems to imply that, at his heart, Master Li subconsciously felt sorrow and pain for losing his family, which he will never actually admit.