History WMG / Irredeemable

7th Dec '16 7:11:14 PM Maljen
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** Annie Tanaka/Jailbait II/Headcase not being attracted to Max is debatable. While she claimed to not be into men back when she first worked as Jailbait II, she's later shown flirting with boys before she reaches Max's fateful meeting with the Paradigm so that might have been a lie to discourage him. She did later make him swear to protect her and overall comes off as a {{Yandere}} towards him in a way even Jailbait I/Terri doesn't.

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** * Annie Tanaka/Jailbait II/Headcase not being attracted to Max is debatable. While she claimed to not be into men back when she first worked as Jailbait II, she's later shown flirting with boys before she reaches Max's fateful meeting with the Paradigm so that might have been a lie to discourage him. She did later make him swear to protect her and overall comes off as a {{Yandere}} towards him in a way even Jailbait I/Terri doesn't.
7th Dec '16 2:00:25 AM Maljen
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Even with The Plutoninan gone, Earth is screwed]]]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Even with The Plutoninan Plutonian gone, Earth is screwed]]]]
7th Dec '16 2:00:03 AM Maljen
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Sure, all of the major villains operating from Earth have either reformed (Max Damage, [[spoiler: Plutonian in a way]]), died, or were otherwise removed as a threat ([[spoiler: like Modeus getting sealed away into Qubit's mind), and the series ended with new heroes (like [[spoiler: Alana Patel with Max Damage's abilities]]) possibly filling the gaps left by the Paradigm's dead members. But there's the issue of the Vespa, who if you remember were deadly enough that Hornet figured it was better to cut a deal with them than fight off an invasion of their armies. Now that the Plutonian not only escaped from a Vespa ran prison, but [[spoiler: has had his essence spread around the multiverse]] the Vespa are in a strong position to invade Earth again, this time [[spoiler:without the Plutonian to get in their way.]] Remember that the deal Hornet cut with the Vespa had them capture Tony and not invade Earth while getting the coordinates of Earthlike planets the Paradigm visited along with Qubit's portal technology. Now that [[spoiler:Tony's gone]] and Qubit destroyed a Vespa ship alongside mutilating their ruler, they can point to all that as warrants to begin another invasion of Earth. Even if Qubit turns off the portals, the Vespa can still reach Earth and overwhelm it from the sheer weight of their empire.

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Sure, all of the major villains operating from Earth have either reformed (Max Damage, [[spoiler: Plutonian in a way]]), died, or were otherwise removed as a threat ([[spoiler: like Modeus getting sealed away into Qubit's mind), mind]]), and the series ended with new heroes (like [[spoiler: Alana Patel with Max Damage's abilities]]) possibly filling the gaps left by the Paradigm's dead members. But there's the issue of the Vespa, who if you remember were deadly enough that Hornet figured it was better to cut a deal with them than fight off an invasion of their armies. Now that the Plutonian not only escaped from a Vespa ran prison, but [[spoiler: has had his essence spread around the multiverse]] the Vespa are in a strong position to invade Earth again, this time [[spoiler:without the Plutonian to get in their way.]] Remember that the deal Hornet cut with the Vespa had them capture Tony and not invade Earth while getting the coordinates of Earthlike planets the Paradigm visited along with Qubit's portal technology. Now that [[spoiler:Tony's gone]] and Qubit destroyed a Vespa ship alongside mutilating their ruler, they can point to all that as warrants to begin another invasion of Earth. Even if Qubit turns off the portals, the Vespa can still reach Earth and overwhelm it from the sheer weight of their empire.
7th Dec '16 1:57:55 AM Maljen
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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Even with The Plutoninan gone, Earth is screwed]]

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Even with The Plutoninan gone, Earth is screwed]]screwed]]]]
7th Dec '16 1:57:21 AM Maljen
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[[spoiler: Even with The Plutoninan gone, Earth is screwed]]
Sure, all of the major villains operating from Earth have either reformed (Max Damage, [[spoiler: Plutonian in a way]]), died, or were otherwise removed as a threat ([[spoiler: like Modeus getting sealed away into Qubit's mind), and the series ended with new heroes (like [[spoiler: Alana Patel with Max Damage's abilities]]) possibly filling the gaps left by the Paradigm's dead members. But there's the issue of the Vespa, who if you remember were deadly enough that Hornet figured it was better to cut a deal with them than fight off an invasion of their armies. Now that the Plutonian not only escaped from a Vespa ran prison, but [[spoiler: had his essence spread around the multiverse]] the Vespa are in a strong position to invade Earth again, this time [[spoiler:without the Plutonian to get in their way.]] Remember that the deal Hornet cut with the Vespa had them cap

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[[WMG: [[spoiler: Even with The Plutoninan gone, Earth is screwed]]
Sure, all of the major villains operating from Earth have either reformed (Max Damage, [[spoiler: Plutonian in a way]]), died, or were otherwise removed as a threat ([[spoiler: like Modeus getting sealed away into Qubit's mind), and the series ended with new heroes (like [[spoiler: Alana Patel with Max Damage's abilities]]) possibly filling the gaps left by the Paradigm's dead members. But there's the issue of the Vespa, who if you remember were deadly enough that Hornet figured it was better to cut a deal with them than fight off an invasion of their armies. Now that the Plutonian not only escaped from a Vespa ran prison, but [[spoiler: has had his essence spread around the multiverse]] the Vespa are in a strong position to invade Earth again, this time [[spoiler:without the Plutonian to get in their way.]] Remember that the deal Hornet cut with the Vespa had them capcapture Tony and not invade Earth while getting the coordinates of Earthlike planets the Paradigm visited along with Qubit's portal technology. Now that [[spoiler:Tony's gone]] and Qubit destroyed a Vespa ship alongside mutilating their ruler, they can point to all that as warrants to begin another invasion of Earth. Even if Qubit turns off the portals, the Vespa can still reach Earth and overwhelm it from the sheer weight of their empire.
7th Dec '16 12:52:17 AM Maljen
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**Annie Tanaka/Jailbait II/Headcase not being attracted to Max is debatable. While she claimed to not be into men back when she first worked as Jailbait II, she's later shown flirting with boys before she reaches Max's fateful meeting with the Paradigm so that might have been a lie to discourage him. She did later make him swear to protect her and overall comes off as a {{Yandere}} towards him in a way even Jailbait I/Terri doesn't.



The comic establishes on multiple occasions that Max Damage was on the same levels as the Plutonian if he'd been awake for a long enough time. Close enough to make it a good fight at least. However, none of those fights destroyed an entire city, and the Plutonian has enough power in just his eye beams to do just that, or [[spoiler: sink Singapore, or carve his symbol into North America in trenches wider than the grand canyon. From space.]] The fact that the Plutonian turns out to be [[spoiler: a reality warper]] makes me think that just seeing Max Damage, due to [[spoiler: their childhood history together]] makes him subconsciously depower himself.

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The comic establishes on multiple occasions that Max Damage was on the same levels as the Plutonian if he'd been awake for a long enough time. Close enough to make it a good fight at least. However, none of those fights destroyed an entire city, and the Plutonian has enough power in just his eye beams to do just that, or [[spoiler: sink Singapore, or carve his symbol into North America in trenches wider than the grand canyon. From space.]] The fact that the Plutonian turns out to be [[spoiler: a reality warper]] makes me think that just seeing Max Damage, due to [[spoiler: their childhood history together]] makes him subconsciously depower himself.himself.

[[spoiler: Even with The Plutoninan gone, Earth is screwed]]
Sure, all of the major villains operating from Earth have either reformed (Max Damage, [[spoiler: Plutonian in a way]]), died, or were otherwise removed as a threat ([[spoiler: like Modeus getting sealed away into Qubit's mind), and the series ended with new heroes (like [[spoiler: Alana Patel with Max Damage's abilities]]) possibly filling the gaps left by the Paradigm's dead members. But there's the issue of the Vespa, who if you remember were deadly enough that Hornet figured it was better to cut a deal with them than fight off an invasion of their armies. Now that the Plutonian not only escaped from a Vespa ran prison, but [[spoiler: had his essence spread around the multiverse]] the Vespa are in a strong position to invade Earth again, this time [[spoiler:without the Plutonian to get in their way.]] Remember that the deal Hornet cut with the Vespa had them cap
7th Aug '16 12:22:46 PM nombretomado
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It's happening to Charybdis, and his power only had to double. Might be a quasi-mystical Universal law similar to that of "Evil Always Win" in the Crime Syndicate Earth in TheDCU.

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It's happening to Charybdis, and his power only had to double. Might be a quasi-mystical Universal law similar to that of "Evil Always Win" in the Crime Syndicate Earth in TheDCU.Franchise/TheDCU.
24th Jan '16 7:32:02 PM nombretomado
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...and created an alternate universe by doing so, where the Plutonian is instead known as {{Superman}}.

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...and created an alternate universe by doing so, where the Plutonian is instead known as {{Superman}}.Franchise/{{Superman}}.



As it's said in SupermanTheAnimatedSeries, Superman says that he'd go crazy if he had to be Superman all the time and that ''he's Clark Kent'' above all. Alana and her co-workers destroyed this for Tony (albeit it was his fault for telling it to Alana in the first place)

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As it's said in SupermanTheAnimatedSeries, ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'', Superman says that he'd go crazy if he had to be Superman all the time and that ''he's Clark Kent'' above all. Alana and her co-workers destroyed this for Tony (albeit it was his fault for telling it to Alana in the first place)
25th Dec '15 5:56:52 PM nombretomado
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*** Slight problem, though, ComicBook/KingdomCome was more a {{deconstruction}} of UsefulNotes/{{the Dark Age|of Comic Books}}, not really a {{reconstruction}} of the SilverAge.

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*** Slight problem, though, ComicBook/KingdomCome was more a {{deconstruction}} of UsefulNotes/{{the Dark Age|of Comic Books}}, not really a {{reconstruction}} of the SilverAge.UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}.
12th Oct '15 10:50:52 AM LordQwert
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The comic establishes on multiple occasions that Max Damage was on the same levels as the Plutonian if he'd been awake for a long enough time. Close enough to make it a good fight at least. However, none of those fights destroyed an entire city, and the Plutonian has enough power in just his eye beams to do just that, or [spoiler: sink Singapore, or carve his symbol into North America in trenches wider than the grand canyon. From space.]] The fact that the Plutonian turns out to be [[spoiler: a reality warper]] makes me think that just seeing Max Damage, due to [[spoiler: their childhood history together]] makes him subconsciously depower himself.

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The comic establishes on multiple occasions that Max Damage was on the same levels as the Plutonian if he'd been awake for a long enough time. Close enough to make it a good fight at least. However, none of those fights destroyed an entire city, and the Plutonian has enough power in just his eye beams to do just that, or [spoiler: [[spoiler: sink Singapore, or carve his symbol into North America in trenches wider than the grand canyon. From space.]] The fact that the Plutonian turns out to be [[spoiler: a reality warper]] makes me think that just seeing Max Damage, due to [[spoiler: their childhood history together]] makes him subconsciously depower himself.
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