History WMG / ICarly

23rd Mar '17 9:29:43 AM Scsigs
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* It all revolves around Gordon from ''iDo''. There is a recurring character on Two and a Half Men also named Gordon. [[IdenticalStranger Both Gordons are played by the same actor and have similar personalities.]] If I remember correctly, it wasn't stated where ''iCarly's'' Gordon lived or what he did for a living and assuming the episodes don't take place on the dates that they aired, I don't think it's too far-fetched to say that both Gordons are the same person.

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* It all revolves around Gordon from ''iDo''. There is a recurring character on Two and a Half Men also named Gordon. [[IdenticalStranger Both Gordons are played by the same actor and have similar personalities.]] If I remember correctly, it wasn't stated where ''iCarly's'' Gordon lived or what he did for a living and assuming the episodes don't take place on the dates that they aired, I don't think it's too far-fetched to say that both Gordons are the same person.person.
** Saw a rerun of this episode several weeks prior to this entry. I'm pretty sure they said it takes place, the wedding part at least, in Wisconsin, or some similar place, not California. Plus, Gordon's explanation of what happened in between his appearances on ''T&AHM'' doesn't align with what happened in ''iCarly''. Good theory, but it doesn't really work.
19th Mar '17 1:11:07 PM nombretomado
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The reason Nevel wants a kiss from Carly is because he's young and confused and wants to know if kissing a girl will make him feel ''something''. It hasn't happened yet because Dan Schneider is still trying to [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar work out how to sneak]] a ComingOutStory onto {{Nickelodeon}}.

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The reason Nevel wants a kiss from Carly is because he's young and confused and wants to know if kissing a girl will make him feel ''something''. It hasn't happened yet because Dan Schneider is still trying to [[GettingCrapPastTheRadar work out how to sneak]] a ComingOutStory onto {{Nickelodeon}}.{{Creator/Nickelodeon}}.
11th Mar '17 5:06:06 PM nombretomado
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*** Since MirandaCosgrove appeared as herself on an episode of ''Series/BigTimeRush'', this also brings that show under the banner of the Drew And Jerry version of the universe. This doesn't really effect the amount of 'copies', but it does mean there are 3 versions of Erin Saunders, herself, Quinn and Camille.
*** MirandaCosgrove also appeared as herself on an episode of Series/TheNakedBrothersBand, which means ''that'' show crosses over as well. This doesn't change any of the amount of people or copies who exist (because it's 'real life' and people show up as 'real people' for the most part, although that means a few people exist as their character but not their actor because some people were characters whilst others were 'real people'), although it does mean that Polly Draper is dead in that universe and alive in ours.

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*** Since MirandaCosgrove Creator/MirandaCosgrove appeared as herself on an episode of ''Series/BigTimeRush'', this also brings that show under the banner of the Drew And Jerry version of the universe. This doesn't really effect the amount of 'copies', but it does mean there are 3 versions of Erin Saunders, herself, Quinn and Camille.
*** MirandaCosgrove Creator/MirandaCosgrove also appeared as herself on an episode of Series/TheNakedBrothersBand, which means ''that'' show crosses over as well. This doesn't change any of the amount of people or copies who exist (because it's 'real life' and people show up as 'real people' for the most part, although that means a few people exist as their character but not their actor because some people were characters whilst others were 'real people'), although it does mean that Polly Draper is dead in that universe and alive in ours.



Creddie is the OfficialCouple. MirandaCosgrove is the star. Creddie has been [[ShipTease teased]], [[JustFriends flirted with]], hooked up and broken up ''without'' ShipSinking for 70+ episodes and they keep playing and touching each other all the damn time now. There are so many negatives and questions that a Sam/Freddie hookup would bring such as Freddie appearing mentally unstable after Sam has beat the crap out of him for 70+ episodes, making it look like StockholmSyndrome, make Sam look like a rebound, make her look like a complete bitch for treating him that way whilst hiding 'secret feelings' and has the potential to ruin the increasingly weak comedic side of the show in an effort for a cheap ratings stunt to pacify the online fans that only end up being a 0.01% of the actual viewer numbers. Sam also has a canon PrecociousCrush on Spencer.

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Creddie is the OfficialCouple. MirandaCosgrove Creator/MirandaCosgrove is the star. Creddie has been [[ShipTease teased]], [[JustFriends flirted with]], hooked up and broken up ''without'' ShipSinking for 70+ episodes and they keep playing and touching each other all the damn time now. There are so many negatives and questions that a Sam/Freddie hookup would bring such as Freddie appearing mentally unstable after Sam has beat the crap out of him for 70+ episodes, making it look like StockholmSyndrome, make Sam look like a rebound, make her look like a complete bitch for treating him that way whilst hiding 'secret feelings' and has the potential to ruin the increasingly weak comedic side of the show in an effort for a cheap ratings stunt to pacify the online fans that only end up being a 0.01% of the actual viewer numbers. Sam also has a canon PrecociousCrush on Spencer.
26th Feb '17 9:30:34 AM nombretomado
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** Her strength isn't what needs containing -- Nickelodeon isn't afraid of strong females. The problem is, if a girl on television isn't the epitome of moral rectitude and instead chooses to act up, [[TruthInTelevision (as teenager are wont to do)]], then she's automatically a bitch who must be humiliated before she can be redeemed, if that's even possible. Never mind that characters like Sam Puckett and [[Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Alex Russo]] are more interesting to watch than HannahMontana and her ilk.... And as far as the shipping with Freddie goes, that's the viewers [[MisaimedFandom misinterpreting]] the fact that Sam and Freddie are (at best) VitriolicBestBuds, especially in later episodes, where the fighting has decreased somewhat and they are slightly more comfortable around each other.

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** Her strength isn't what needs containing -- Nickelodeon isn't afraid of strong females. The problem is, if a girl on television isn't the epitome of moral rectitude and instead chooses to act up, [[TruthInTelevision (as teenager are wont to do)]], then she's automatically a bitch who must be humiliated before she can be redeemed, if that's even possible. Never mind that characters like Sam Puckett and [[Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Alex Russo]] are more interesting to watch than HannahMontana Series/HannahMontana and her ilk.... And as far as the shipping with Freddie goes, that's the viewers [[MisaimedFandom misinterpreting]] the fact that Sam and Freddie are (at best) VitriolicBestBuds, especially in later episodes, where the fighting has decreased somewhat and they are slightly more comfortable around each other.



*** Characters like Sam who earn the label of "awesome" do so ''because'' of (not just in spite of) the fact that they push things to the extreme and give less than a shit about likability. Sure, we wouldn't like someone like Sam (or [[Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Alex]], or god forbid, [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Megan]]) in real life, but that's kinda the point: We live ''through'' them vicariously, on some level admiring their deplorable behavior because we know we couldn't get away with it and because they do it with none of the self-consciousness we ourselves are afflicted with in the real world. Even if (as illustrated above) you don't like these characters, you react to them strongly and are engaged nonetheless. Hence why characters like HannahMontana don't strike as much of a chord: They ring false in some way, going in the opposite direction by embodying a kind of [[IncorruptiblePurePureness sugary sweetness and naivete]] that we, even on our best days, don't possess.
*** Poster of "just a jerk" comment: Actually, I really don't have any strong opinion on her. And, to be frank, I'm not even sure where HannahMontana came in. It's not like you can only have one of two kinds of female characters. Hell, Carly herself is hardly "pure", but she's also far less "[[JerkSue Awesome]]".

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*** Characters like Sam who earn the label of "awesome" do so ''because'' of (not just in spite of) the fact that they push things to the extreme and give less than a shit about likability. Sure, we wouldn't like someone like Sam (or [[Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Alex]], or god forbid, [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Megan]]) in real life, but that's kinda the point: We live ''through'' them vicariously, on some level admiring their deplorable behavior because we know we couldn't get away with it and because they do it with none of the self-consciousness we ourselves are afflicted with in the real world. Even if (as illustrated above) you don't like these characters, you react to them strongly and are engaged nonetheless. Hence why characters like HannahMontana Series/HannahMontana don't strike as much of a chord: They ring false in some way, going in the opposite direction by embodying a kind of [[IncorruptiblePurePureness sugary sweetness and naivete]] that we, even on our best days, don't possess.
*** Poster of "just a jerk" comment: Actually, I really don't have any strong opinion on her. And, to be frank, I'm not even sure where HannahMontana Series/HannahMontana came in. It's not like you can only have one of two kinds of female characters. Hell, Carly herself is hardly "pure", but she's also far less "[[JerkSue Awesome]]".



[[WMG: DanSchneider might repeat the same mistake [[WordOfGod Michael Poryes]] did with [[HannahMontana Moliver]].]]

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[[WMG: DanSchneider Creator/DanSchneider might repeat the same mistake [[WordOfGod Michael Poryes]] did with [[HannahMontana [[Series/HannahMontana Moliver]].]]
18th Oct '16 5:20:45 PM nombretomado
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Now, about Sam & Cat. I think it's pretty obvious that their universe is closer to ours, because there have been a lot of mentions of stuff and people that exits in our world as well (though Ke$ha does exist in the Victorious universe, and {{Friends}} exists in both iCarly and Sam & Cat). My personal theory is that [[DanSchneider Schneider]] has reached the point where it just doesn’t matter anymore. I think that Sam & Cat is a regular TV show, but it's also half a parody. I don’t think they expect us to take what happens there too seriously, it's just that point where Schneider can allow himself to make fun of his own shows. Sorry about the length, by the way.

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Now, about Sam & Cat. I think it's pretty obvious that their universe is closer to ours, because there have been a lot of mentions of stuff and people that exits in our world as well (though Ke$ha does exist in the Victorious universe, and {{Friends}} Series/{{Friends}} exists in both iCarly and Sam & Cat). My personal theory is that [[DanSchneider Schneider]] has reached the point where it just doesn’t matter anymore. I think that Sam & Cat is a regular TV show, but it's also half a parody. I don’t think they expect us to take what happens there too seriously, it's just that point where Schneider can allow himself to make fun of his own shows. Sorry about the length, by the way.
4th Sep '16 11:41:43 AM JamesAustin
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About ''Series/{{Zoey 101}}'' – there were some major paradoxes there. The visible evidences are: a. Lola and Quinn were watching iCarly, the web show. That could either mean they live in the same universe, or they live in a universe where iCarly is a TV show, i.e. our universe or some other one; b. There was a full episode about Zoey trying to get DrakeBell to perform. Drake Bell, not [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Drake Parker]]. Ergo, the Zoey 101 universe is our universe, or another universe where Drake Bell exists; c. Music/VictoriaJustice, Creator/MirandaCosgrove,Creator/JennetteMcCurdy and Creator/DaniellaMonet has all played characters there that are not Tori/Shelby, Carly, Sam and Trina. Therefore, again, not the same universe. What conflicts all of it is the fact that [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Stacy Dilson]] seems to be a character on iCarly. She was obviously there once, and if you notice you will see her name and other mentions of her (like in iPity Nevel). So, the solution for the characters could be, again, the doppelganger thing. About Drake… I really don’t know. You are welcome to help me with it.

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About ''Series/{{Zoey 101}}'' – there were some major paradoxes there. The visible evidences are: a. Lola and Quinn were watching iCarly, the web show. That could either mean they live in the same universe, or they live in a universe where iCarly is a TV show, i.e. our universe or some other one; b. There was a full episode about Zoey trying to get DrakeBell Drake Bell to perform. Drake Bell, not [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Drake Parker]]. Ergo, the Zoey 101 universe is our universe, or another universe where Drake Bell exists; c. Music/VictoriaJustice, Creator/MirandaCosgrove,Creator/JennetteMcCurdy and Creator/DaniellaMonet has all played characters there that are not Tori/Shelby, Carly, Sam and Trina. Therefore, again, not the same universe. What conflicts all of it is the fact that [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Stacy Dilson]] seems to be a character on iCarly. She was obviously there once, and if you notice you will see her name and other mentions of her (like in iPity Nevel). So, the solution for the characters could be, again, the doppelganger thing. About Drake… I really don’t know. You are welcome to help me with it.



- On the Drake Parker/ Drake Bell situation, maybe Bell is just a stage name Drake uses. A lot of performers have them these days. Another option is that if Drake and Josh is a reality show then Parker could be a fake last name given to protect Drakes real identity

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- On the Drake Parker/ Parker / Drake Bell situation, maybe Bell is just a stage name Drake uses. A lot of performers have them these days. Another option is that if Drake and Josh is a reality show then Parker could be a fake last name given to protect Drakes real identity
23rd Jul '16 12:46:26 PM nombretomado
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* I see it more as a parody/shout-out to 1984 and BigBrother.

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* I see it more as a parody/shout-out to 1984 and BigBrother.
Big Brother.
7th Jul '16 7:12:31 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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SamAndCat obviously has to be in the same universe, which is kind of a problem. There was a clear mention of Drake & Josh there (or was it on Victorious?). Assuming it was on Sam & Cat, the only possible explanation is that the Sam & Cat world is crazy. Come on, they let SAM and CAT live alone and babysit. If it was on Victorious, there was a proof that it shares universe with Drake & Josh – Helen was there. So, that probably means that Cat is a FourthWallObserver. Hey, that makes a lot of sense. Another option is that it's RuleofFunny, or TheyJustDidntCare.

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SamAndCat obviously has to be in the same universe, which is kind of a problem. There was a clear mention of Drake & Josh there (or was it on Victorious?). Assuming it was on Sam & Cat, the only possible explanation is that the Sam & Cat world is crazy. Come on, they let SAM and CAT live alone and babysit. If it was on Victorious, there was a proof that it shares universe with Drake & Josh – Helen was there. So, that probably means that Cat is a FourthWallObserver. Hey, that makes a lot of sense. Another option is that it's RuleofFunny, or TheyJustDidntCare.RuleofFunny.



Now, about Sam & Cat. I think it's pretty obvious that their universe is closer to ours, because there have been a lot of mentions of stuff and people that exits in our world as well (though Ke$ha does exist in the Victorious universe, and {{Friends}} exists in both iCarly and Sam & Cat). My personal theory is that [[DanSchneider Schneider]] has reached the point where it just doesn’t matter anymore. I think that Sam & Cat is a regular TV show, but it's also half a parody. I don’t think they expect us to take what happens there too seriously, it's just that point where Schneider can allow himself to make fun of his own shows. Sorry about the length, by the way. Maybe TheyJustDidntCare.

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Now, about Sam & Cat. I think it's pretty obvious that their universe is closer to ours, because there have been a lot of mentions of stuff and people that exits in our world as well (though Ke$ha does exist in the Victorious universe, and {{Friends}} exists in both iCarly and Sam & Cat). My personal theory is that [[DanSchneider Schneider]] has reached the point where it just doesn’t matter anymore. I think that Sam & Cat is a regular TV show, but it's also half a parody. I don’t think they expect us to take what happens there too seriously, it's just that point where Schneider can allow himself to make fun of his own shows. Sorry about the length, by the way. Maybe TheyJustDidntCare.
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11th Jun '16 6:54:50 PM nombretomado
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* Cam and Spam will keep being vaguely hinted at; but it won't ever be overt, not on the basic Nick channel. TeenNick, maybe, but it's not made for that channel.

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* Cam and Spam will keep being vaguely hinted at; but it won't ever be overt, not on the basic Nick channel. TeenNick, Creator/TeenNick, maybe, but it's not made for that channel.
9th Jun '16 5:12:28 PM nombretomado
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We will find out that Carly and Spencer's parents were dead to begin with. Sam and Freddie will hook up, if they haven't already by then, and that will be the most positive thing in the episode. We'll find out that Sam has an absolutely crappy home life a la above, and that's why she spends so much time with Carly. This will cause Social Services to come and make her move away, and for some reason she won't be able to contact Carly and Freddie. They will then have to cancel [=iCarly=]. At the very end, there will be a ParentalBonus LampshadeHanging about how {{SitCom}}s [[{{Series/Dinosaurs}} tend]] [[Series/{{ALF}} to]] [[RoseAnne have]] {{DownerEnding}}s

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We will find out that Carly and Spencer's parents were dead to begin with. Sam and Freddie will hook up, if they haven't already by then, and that will be the most positive thing in the episode. We'll find out that Sam has an absolutely crappy home life a la above, and that's why she spends so much time with Carly. This will cause Social Services to come and make her move away, and for some reason she won't be able to contact Carly and Freddie. They will then have to cancel [=iCarly=]. At the very end, there will be a ParentalBonus LampshadeHanging about how {{SitCom}}s [[{{Series/Dinosaurs}} tend]] [[Series/{{ALF}} to]] [[RoseAnne [[Series/{{Roseanne}} have]] {{DownerEnding}}s
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