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3rd May '16 12:39:47 PM TVRulezAgain
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[[WMG: Wesley (the beatboxing boy) transferred to [[{{Victorious}} Hollywood Arts.]]]]

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[[WMG: Wesley (the beatboxing boy) transferred to [[{{Victorious}} [[Series/{{Victorious}} Hollywood Arts.]]]]



About ''Series/{{Zoey 101}}'' – there were some major paradoxes there. The visible evidences are: a. Lola and Quinn were watching iCarly, the web show. That could either mean they live in the same universe, or they live in a universe where iCarly is a TV show, i.e. our universe or some other one; b. There was a full episode about Zoey trying to get DrakeBell to perform. Drake Bell, not [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Drake Parker]]. Ergo, the Zoey 101 universe is our universe, or another universe where Drake Bell exists; c. VictoriaJustice,MirandaCosgrove,Creator/JennetteMcCurdy and Creator/DaniellaMonet has all played characters there that are not Tori/Shelby, Carly, Sam and Trina. Therefore, again, not the same universe. What conflicts all of it is the fact that [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Stacy Dilson]] seems to be a character on iCarly. She was obviously there once, and if you notice you will see her name and other mentions of her (like in iPity Nevel). So, the solution for the characters could be, again, the doppelganger thing. About Drake… I really don’t know. You are welcome to help me with it.

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About ''Series/{{Zoey 101}}'' – there were some major paradoxes there. The visible evidences are: a. Lola and Quinn were watching iCarly, the web show. That could either mean they live in the same universe, or they live in a universe where iCarly is a TV show, i.e. our universe or some other one; b. There was a full episode about Zoey trying to get DrakeBell to perform. Drake Bell, not [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Drake Parker]]. Ergo, the Zoey 101 universe is our universe, or another universe where Drake Bell exists; c. VictoriaJustice,MirandaCosgrove,Creator/JennetteMcCurdy Music/VictoriaJustice, Creator/MirandaCosgrove,Creator/JennetteMcCurdy and Creator/DaniellaMonet has all played characters there that are not Tori/Shelby, Carly, Sam and Trina. Therefore, again, not the same universe. What conflicts all of it is the fact that [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Stacy Dilson]] seems to be a character on iCarly. She was obviously there once, and if you notice you will see her name and other mentions of her (like in iPity Nevel). So, the solution for the characters could be, again, the doppelganger thing. About Drake… I really don’t know. You are welcome to help me with it.



*** Thinking about it a bit more, I think if something like that is going to happen, it'll happen in {{Victorious}}.

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*** Thinking about it a bit more, I think if something like that is going to happen, it'll happen in {{Victorious}}.Series/{{Victorious}}.



*** There's Cat's uncles in ''{{Victorious}}'', but that was only mentioned once in passing. I wouldn't be surprised if Cat turns out to be bisexual in a later episode, though.

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*** There's Cat's uncles in ''{{Victorious}}'', ''Series/{{Victorious}}'', but that was only mentioned once in passing. I wouldn't be surprised if Cat turns out to be bisexual in a later episode, though.
26th Apr '16 3:50:45 PM TVRulezAgain
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In ''Drake & Josh'', "Drew and Jerry" was shown to be a type 4 ShowWithinAShow. The show that Carly and Spencer were watching in "iGet Pranky" could have been "Drew and Jerry" not Drake & Josh. That way, both shows could exist in its own happy little universe (along with Series/{{Zoey101}} and {{Victorious}}) without any contradictions.

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In ''Drake & Josh'', "Drew and Jerry" was shown to be a type 4 ShowWithinAShow. The show that Carly and Spencer were watching in "iGet Pranky" could have been "Drew and Jerry" not Drake & Josh. That way, both shows could exist in its own happy little universe (along with Series/{{Zoey101}} and {{Victorious}}) Series/{{Victorious}}) without any contradictions.



** Four of Daniella: [[{{Zoey101}} Rebecca]], [[Series/ICarly the popular girl Nora kissed]], [[Series/{{Victorious}} Trina]] and herself.

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** Four of Daniella: [[{{Zoey101}} [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Rebecca]], [[Series/ICarly the popular girl Nora kissed]], [[Series/{{Victorious}} Trina]] and herself.



* {{Jossed}}. Creddie has a LastMinuteHookup, joining many other shows (like Zoey101 for example) where the two main characters hook up right at the end to become canon.

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* {{Jossed}}. Creddie has a LastMinuteHookup, joining many other shows (like Zoey101 Series/Zoey101 for example) where the two main characters hook up right at the end to become canon.
14th Apr '16 1:52:25 PM JiminysJournal
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**** Melanie's an android. Or a hologram. Or just another character in the [[Creator/DanSchneider Schneiderverse]] that happens to look like Sam.
29th Mar '16 5:10:08 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Carly is [[Series/DrakeandJosh Megan]] in disguise.]]

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[[WMG: Carly is [[Series/DrakeandJosh [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Megan]] in disguise.]]



*** You are not alone. It's Sam's behavior which made me give up on the show. [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop Apparently it's okay for a girl to be a total bitch to all but a few people, especially if it's a boy]] [[AcceptableTargets who happens to be a nerd]]. [[DoubleStandard Nevermind the backlash if it were the other way around]]. Sam and Freddie are VitriolicBestBuds? A CurbStompBattle-equivalent, maybe (How the hell does what Freddie has done to Sam equivalent to her ''throwing him out of a treehouse'') but definitely not best buds. If the likes of [[JerkSue Sam Puckett and Alex Russo]] are really the epitome of "awesome female characters," then I'll stick with the likes of HannahMontana. At least their behavior doesn't drive me to change the channel out of disgust.
*** Characters like Sam who earn the label of "awesome" do so ''because'' of (not just in spite of) the fact that they push things to the extreme and give less than a shit about likability. Sure, we wouldn't like someone like Sam (or [[WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Alex]], or god forbid, [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Megan]]) in real life, but that's kinda the point: We live ''through'' them vicariously, on some level admiring their deplorable behavior because we know we couldn't get away with it and because they do it with none of the self-consciousness we ourselves are afflicted with in the real world. Even if (as illustrated above) you don't like these characters, you react to them strongly and are engaged nonetheless. Hence why characters like HannahMontana don't strike as much of a chord: They ring false in some way, going in the opposite direction by embodying a kind of [[IncorruptiblePurePureness sugary sweetness and naivete]] that we, even on our best days, don't possess.

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*** You are not alone. It's Sam's behavior which made me give up on the show. [[FamilyUnfriendlyAesop Apparently it's okay for a girl to be a total bitch to all but a few people, especially if it's a boy]] [[AcceptableTargets who happens to be a nerd]]. [[DoubleStandard Nevermind the backlash if it were the other way around]]. Sam and Freddie are VitriolicBestBuds? A CurbStompBattle-equivalent, maybe (How the hell does what Freddie has done to Sam equivalent to her ''throwing him out of a treehouse'') but definitely not best buds. If the likes of [[JerkSue Sam Puckett and Alex Russo]] are really the epitome of "awesome female characters," then I'll stick with the likes of HannahMontana.''Series/HannahMontana''. At least their behavior doesn't drive me to change the channel out of disgust.
*** Characters like Sam who earn the label of "awesome" do so ''because'' of (not just in spite of) the fact that they push things to the extreme and give less than a shit about likability. Sure, we wouldn't like someone like Sam (or [[WizardsOfWaverlyPlace [[Series/WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Alex]], or god forbid, [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Megan]]) in real life, but that's kinda the point: We live ''through'' them vicariously, on some level admiring their deplorable behavior because we know we couldn't get away with it and because they do it with none of the self-consciousness we ourselves are afflicted with in the real world. Even if (as illustrated above) you don't like these characters, you react to them strongly and are engaged nonetheless. Hence why characters like HannahMontana don't strike as much of a chord: They ring false in some way, going in the opposite direction by embodying a kind of [[IncorruptiblePurePureness sugary sweetness and naivete]] that we, even on our best days, don't possess.



*** HannahMontana? The epitome of moral rectitude? Seriously?

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*** HannahMontana? ''Series/HannahMontana''? The epitome of moral rectitude? Seriously?



In DrakeAndJosh, "Drew and Jerry" was shown to be a type 4 ShowWithinAShow. The show that Carly and Spencer were watching in "iGet Pranky" could have been "Drew and Jerry" not Drake & Josh. That way, both shows could exist in its own happy little universe (along with Series/{{Zoey101}} and {{Victorious}}) without any contradictions.

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In DrakeAndJosh, ''Drake & Josh'', "Drew and Jerry" was shown to be a type 4 ShowWithinAShow. The show that Carly and Spencer were watching in "iGet Pranky" could have been "Drew and Jerry" not Drake & Josh. That way, both shows could exist in its own happy little universe (along with Series/{{Zoey101}} and {{Victorious}}) without any contradictions.



Okay so I'm going with the Steven & Audrey theory, which I love. iCarly, Victorious, and Drake & Josh are in the same universe. [[Series/ICarly Steven]] & [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Audrey]] got married, had [[Series/ICarly Spencer]], [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Drake]] and the twins [[Series/ICarly Carly]] & [[DrakeAndJosh Megan]], and then split up and split the kids between them. Why they chose to do so even though Steven was in the army meaning that Spencer and Carly will be left alone, is beyond me. I'm also going with the "[[Series/DrakeAndJosh Crazy Steve]] is [[Series/{{Victorious}} Cat's]] brother" theory, because I like it and it calms me down. Now, when Carly was watching Drake & Josh she was actually watching [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Jerry & Drew ]], and she just saw the Jerry & Drew version of Megan. Same goes for Spencer.

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Okay so I'm going with the Steven & Audrey theory, which I love. iCarly, Victorious, and Drake & Josh are in the same universe. [[Series/ICarly Steven]] & [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Audrey]] got married, had [[Series/ICarly Spencer]], [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Drake]] and the twins [[Series/ICarly Carly]] & [[DrakeAndJosh [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Megan]], and then split up and split the kids between them. Why they chose to do so even though Steven was in the army meaning that Spencer and Carly will be left alone, is beyond me. I'm also going with the "[[Series/DrakeAndJosh Crazy Steve]] is [[Series/{{Victorious}} Cat's]] brother" theory, because I like it and it calms me down. Now, when Carly was watching Drake & Josh she was actually watching [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Jerry & Drew ]], and she just saw the Jerry & Drew version of Megan. Same goes for Spencer.
29th Mar '16 5:08:42 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Carly is [[Main/DrakeandJosh Megan]] in disguise.]]

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[[WMG: Carly is [[Main/DrakeandJosh [[Series/DrakeandJosh Megan]] in disguise.]]



* Well, Spencer is pretty crazy at times..What about Freddie though? His actor appeared in DrakeAndJosh once (the episode with Megan and the boy).
** Wasn't his scene in DrakeAndJosh cut, though?

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* Well, Spencer is pretty crazy at times..What about Freddie though? His actor appeared in DrakeAndJosh ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'' once (the episode with Megan and the boy).
** Wasn't his scene in DrakeAndJosh ''Drake & Josh'' cut, though?



[[WMG: Freddie buys his equipment from the same place that Megan from DrakeAndJosh bought hers. AcmeProducts.]]

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[[WMG: Freddie buys his equipment from the same place that Megan from DrakeAndJosh ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'' bought hers. AcmeProducts.]]



*** Characters like Sam who earn the label of "awesome" do so ''because'' of (not just in spite of) the fact that they push things to the extreme and give less than a shit about likability. Sure, we wouldn't like someone like Sam (or [[WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Alex]], or god forbid, [[DrakeAndJosh Megan]]) in real life, but that's kinda the point: We live ''through'' them vicariously, on some level admiring their deplorable behavior because we know we couldn't get away with it and because they do it with none of the self-consciousness we ourselves are afflicted with in the real world. Even if (as illustrated above) you don't like these characters, you react to them strongly and are engaged nonetheless. Hence why characters like HannahMontana don't strike as much of a chord: They ring false in some way, going in the opposite direction by embodying a kind of [[IncorruptiblePurePureness sugary sweetness and naivete]] that we, even on our best days, don't possess.

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*** Characters like Sam who earn the label of "awesome" do so ''because'' of (not just in spite of) the fact that they push things to the extreme and give less than a shit about likability. Sure, we wouldn't like someone like Sam (or [[WizardsOfWaverlyPlace Alex]], or god forbid, [[DrakeAndJosh [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Megan]]) in real life, but that's kinda the point: We live ''through'' them vicariously, on some level admiring their deplorable behavior because we know we couldn't get away with it and because they do it with none of the self-consciousness we ourselves are afflicted with in the real world. Even if (as illustrated above) you don't like these characters, you react to them strongly and are engaged nonetheless. Hence why characters like HannahMontana don't strike as much of a chord: They ring false in some way, going in the opposite direction by embodying a kind of [[IncorruptiblePurePureness sugary sweetness and naivete]] that we, even on our best days, don't possess.



[[WMG: Sam is somehow related to Drake from DrakeAndJosh.]]

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[[WMG: Sam is somehow related to Drake from DrakeAndJosh.''Series/DrakeAndJosh''.]]



As the 3 main actors age towards their late teens, speculation always starts up about how long the show can last, and if the actors want to continue playing their roles. This brought the end of DrakeAndJosh with the actors in their early 20's by the time it ended. The show itself can probably survive the removal of either Sam or Freddie from the cast, for example, if Jenette wished to continue her music career full-time and left. Gibby's actor is about 3 years younger, even though his character is the same age as the rest, and could be used to fill the gap in a future season.

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As the 3 main actors age towards their late teens, speculation always starts up about how long the show can last, and if the actors want to continue playing their roles. This brought the end of DrakeAndJosh ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'' with the actors in their early 20's by the time it ended. The show itself can probably survive the removal of either Sam or Freddie from the cast, for example, if Jenette wished to continue her music career full-time and left. Gibby's actor is about 3 years younger, even though his character is the same age as the rest, and could be used to fill the gap in a future season.



* On a show run by the guy who kept Megan as a [[MarySue Demon Sue]] CreatorsPet for its entire run? Nevel is their only recurring "villain"! That said, if either Gibby or Nevel grow up fast and "hotter," like that guy from DrakeAndJosh or how Freddie changed from the pilot to the first series, and then from the first season to the second season (both Gibby's and Nevel's actors are 2 or 3 years younger than the main trio, so it might not be likely), it could easily happen. Especially if they use SlapSlapKiss to hook up Sam and Freddie.

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* On a show run by the guy who kept Megan as a [[MarySue Demon Sue]] CreatorsPet for its entire run? Nevel is their only recurring "villain"! That said, if either Gibby or Nevel grow up fast and "hotter," like that guy from DrakeAndJosh ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'' or how Freddie changed from the pilot to the first series, and then from the first season to the second season (both Gibby's and Nevel's actors are 2 or 3 years younger than the main trio, so it might not be likely), it could easily happen. Especially if they use SlapSlapKiss to hook up Sam and Freddie.



[[WMG: The iCarly universe eventually becomes the Film/{{Idiocracy}} universe.]]
Most of the characters in iCarly (and in DrakeAndJosh) are complete idiots with inane senses of humor. As someone pointed out above, the people seem to share some sort of HiveMind - possibly explained by extreme susceptibility to peer pressure. Also, many of the web show's fans will do almost anything the show tells them to. It's not hard to imagine that after a few generations, there wouldn't be much intelligence left to go around.

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[[WMG: The iCarly ''iCarly'' universe eventually becomes the Film/{{Idiocracy}} ''Film/{{Idiocracy}}'' universe.]]
Most of the characters in iCarly ''iCarly'' (and in DrakeAndJosh) ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'') are complete idiots with inane senses of humor. As someone pointed out above, the people seem to share some sort of HiveMind - possibly explained by extreme susceptibility to peer pressure. Also, many of the web show's fans will do almost anything the show tells them to. It's not hard to imagine that after a few generations, there wouldn't be much intelligence left to go around.



[[WMG: Spencer and Carly's parents are [[DrakeAndJosh Drake and Megan's]] parents.]]

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[[WMG: Spencer and Carly's parents are [[DrakeAndJosh [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Drake and Megan's]] parents.]]



* I think I can elaborate, Steven and Audrey Shay had vastly different parenting styles. Steven implemented his [[DrillSergeantNasty miltary training]] to raise Spencer and Drake, horrifying the overly-lenient Audrey to the point that when she got pregnant with girls, she knew to protect them from a [[OverprotectiveDad miserable exsistence]], she had to divorce him. After a heated arguement a few years later, Steven agreed along these terms, they would each get one boy and one girl, and meet back every other year to compare results. Spencer, then a bookworm determined to be a lawyer to [[WellDoneSonGuy impress his father]] opted to stay with Steven, automaticaly giving Drake to Audrey. They decided that Carly, the more disiplined twin, even at three, would work better with Steven, So Audrey, with Drake and Megan in tow, moved to California. The sudden lack of disipline causes Drake and Megan to act out, becoming the children they are today. At the first of the biennial meetings, Steven is proven right and Audrey agrees to be a bit more strict, turning her in to the Audrey Parker of DrakeAndJosh. Drake evens out, but Megan, missing the days of leniency, goes underground with her unadulterated assult of pranks toward Drake. Catching on to this at the next meeting, Audrey asked Steven for a solution, and what Steven suggested was so harsh it triggered a fight so explosive it not only put an end to all further meetings, it gave Carly her last athsma attack, traumatized by [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone nearly losing his daughter]], Steven renounces his strict ways and becomes the beloved dad held fondly in Carly's memories. Carly lost memory of Audrey,Drake, Megan and her father's stricter persona after her attack, but Spencer remembers, which is why he never told Steven about his dropping out of law school. No one ever speaks of Audrey fearing either Stephen relapsing into DrillSergeantNasty or Carly's memories of her dad before shattering her image of him, driving her over the edge. They've seen her develop claustrophobia after 3 hours in a space pod, imagine Daddy's little girl remembering how mean daddy was


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* I think I can elaborate, Steven and Audrey Shay had vastly different parenting styles. Steven implemented his [[DrillSergeantNasty miltary training]] to raise Spencer and Drake, horrifying the overly-lenient Audrey to the point that when she got pregnant with girls, she knew to protect them from a [[OverprotectiveDad miserable exsistence]], she had to divorce him. After a heated arguement a few years later, Steven agreed along these terms, they would each get one boy and one girl, and meet back every other year to compare results. Spencer, then a bookworm determined to be a lawyer to [[WellDoneSonGuy impress his father]] opted to stay with Steven, automaticaly giving Drake to Audrey. They decided that Carly, the more disiplined twin, even at three, would work better with Steven, So Audrey, with Drake and Megan in tow, moved to California. The sudden lack of disipline causes Drake and Megan to act out, becoming the children they are today. At the first of the biennial meetings, Steven is proven right and Audrey agrees to be a bit more strict, turning her in to the Audrey Parker of DrakeAndJosh.''Series/DrakeAndJosh''. Drake evens out, but Megan, missing the days of leniency, goes underground with her unadulterated assult of pranks toward Drake. Catching on to this at the next meeting, Audrey asked Steven for a solution, and what Steven suggested was so harsh it triggered a fight so explosive it not only put an end to all further meetings, it gave Carly her last athsma attack, traumatized by [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone nearly losing his daughter]], Steven renounces his strict ways and becomes the beloved dad held fondly in Carly's memories. Carly lost memory of Audrey,Drake, Megan and her father's stricter persona after her attack, but Spencer remembers, which is why he never told Steven about his dropping out of law school. No one ever speaks of Audrey fearing either Stephen relapsing into DrillSergeantNasty or Carly's memories of her dad before shattering her image of him, driving her over the edge. They've seen her develop claustrophobia after 3 hours in a space pod, imagine Daddy's little girl remembering how mean daddy was




[[WMG: The show that Carly and Spencer were watching in "iGet Pranky" was not ''DrakeAndJosh'', it was ''"[[ShowWithinAShow Drew and Jerry]]"''.]]
In DrakeAndJosh, "Drew and Jerry" was shown to be a type 4 ShowWithinAShow. The show that Carly and Spencer were watching in "iGet Pranky" could have been "Drew and Jerry" not DrakeAndJosh. That way, both shows could exist in its own happy little universe (along with Series/{{Zoey101}} and {{Victorious}}) without any contradictions.

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[[WMG: The show that Carly and Spencer were watching in "iGet Pranky" was not ''DrakeAndJosh'', ''Series/DrakeAndJosh'', it was ''"[[ShowWithinAShow Drew and Jerry]]"''.]]
In DrakeAndJosh, "Drew and Jerry" was shown to be a type 4 ShowWithinAShow. The show that Carly and Spencer were watching in "iGet Pranky" could have been "Drew and Jerry" not DrakeAndJosh.Drake & Josh. That way, both shows could exist in its own happy little universe (along with Series/{{Zoey101}} and {{Victorious}}) without any contradictions.



** Four that look like Miranda: [[DrakeAndJosh Megan]], [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Paige]], [[Series/ICarly Carly]] and herself.

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** Four that look like Miranda: [[DrakeAndJosh [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Megan]], [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Paige]], [[Series/ICarly Carly]] and herself.



** Three of Nathan: [[DrakeAndJosh Toplin]], [[Series/ICarly Freddie]] and himself.
** Four girls who look like Victoria: [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Lola]], [[Series/ICarly Shelby]], [[{{Victorious}} Tori]] and herself.

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** Three of Nathan: [[DrakeAndJosh [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Toplin]], [[Series/ICarly Freddie]] and himself.
** Four girls who look like Victoria: [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Lola]], [[Series/ICarly Shelby]], [[{{Victorious}} [[Series/{{Victorious}} Tori]] and herself.






Okay so I'm going with the Steven & Audrey theory, which I love. iCarly, Victorious, and Drake & Josh are in the same universe. [[Series/ICarly Steven ]] & [[DrakeAndJosh Audrey ]] got married, had [[Series/ICarly Spencer]], [[DrakeAndJosh Drake]] and the twins [[Series/ICarly Carly]] & [[DrakeAndJosh Megan]], and then split up and split the kids between them. Why they chose to do so even though Steven was in the army meaning that Spencer and Carly will be left alone, is beyond me. I'm also going with the "[[DrakeAndJosh Crazy Steve]] is [[{{Victorious}} Cat's]] brother" theory, because I like it and it calms me down. Now, when Carly was watching Drake & Josh she was actually watching [[DrakeAndJosh Jerry & Drew ]], and she just saw the Jerry & Drew version of Megan. Same goes for Spencer.

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Okay so I'm going with the Steven & Audrey theory, which I love. iCarly, Victorious, and Drake & Josh are in the same universe. [[Series/ICarly Steven ]] Steven]] & [[DrakeAndJosh Audrey ]] [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Audrey]] got married, had [[Series/ICarly Spencer]], [[DrakeAndJosh [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Drake]] and the twins [[Series/ICarly Carly]] & [[DrakeAndJosh Megan]], and then split up and split the kids between them. Why they chose to do so even though Steven was in the army meaning that Spencer and Carly will be left alone, is beyond me. I'm also going with the "[[DrakeAndJosh "[[Series/DrakeAndJosh Crazy Steve]] is [[{{Victorious}} [[Series/{{Victorious}} Cat's]] brother" theory, because I like it and it calms me down. Now, when Carly was watching Drake & Josh she was actually watching [[DrakeAndJosh [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Jerry & Drew ]], and she just saw the Jerry & Drew version of Megan. Same goes for Spencer.



About the similarities – Spencer might just look like [[DrakeAndJosh Crazy Steve]]. It's sort of proven that exact doppelgangers exist in the TV world, and there is also the [[Series/ICarly Shelby Marks ]] and [[{{Victorious}} Tori]] thing, and they were on [[Series/ICarly the same show]].

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About the similarities – Spencer might just look like [[DrakeAndJosh [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Crazy Steve]]. It's sort of proven that exact doppelgangers exist in the TV world, and there is also the [[Series/ICarly Shelby Marks ]] and [[{{Victorious}} [[Series/{{Victorious}} Tori]] thing, and they were on [[Series/ICarly the same show]].



About {{Zoey101}} – there were some major paradoxes there. The visible evidences are: a. Lola and Quinn were watching iCarly, the web show. That could either mean they live in the same universe, or they live in a universe where iCarly is a TV show, i.e. our universe or some other one; b. There was a full episode about Zoey trying to get DrakeBell to perform. Drake Bell, not [[DrakeAndJosh Drake Parker]]. Ergo, the Zoey 101 universe is our universe, or another universe where Drake Bell exists; c. VictoriaJustice,MirandaCosgrove,Creator/JennetteMcCurdy and Creator/DaniellaMonet has all played characters there that are not Tori/Shelby, Carly, Sam and Trina. Therefore, again, not the same universe. What conflicts all of it is the fact that [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Stacy Dilson]] seems to be a character on iCarly. She was obviously there once, and if you notice you will see her name and other mentions of her (like in iPity Nevel). So, the solution for the characters could be, again, the doppelganger thing. About Drake… I really don’t know. You are welcome to help me with it.

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About {{Zoey101}} ''Series/{{Zoey 101}}'' – there were some major paradoxes there. The visible evidences are: a. Lola and Quinn were watching iCarly, the web show. That could either mean they live in the same universe, or they live in a universe where iCarly is a TV show, i.e. our universe or some other one; b. There was a full episode about Zoey trying to get DrakeBell to perform. Drake Bell, not [[DrakeAndJosh [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Drake Parker]]. Ergo, the Zoey 101 universe is our universe, or another universe where Drake Bell exists; c. VictoriaJustice,MirandaCosgrove,Creator/JennetteMcCurdy and Creator/DaniellaMonet has all played characters there that are not Tori/Shelby, Carly, Sam and Trina. Therefore, again, not the same universe. What conflicts all of it is the fact that [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Stacy Dilson]] seems to be a character on iCarly. She was obviously there once, and if you notice you will see her name and other mentions of her (like in iPity Nevel). So, the solution for the characters could be, again, the doppelganger thing. About Drake… I really don’t know. You are welcome to help me with it.



* Not really about the show itself but..''Series/TheAmandaShow'' had Drake and Josh who eventually got their [[Series/DrakeAndJosh own show]]. Miranda played Megan on that show, Nathan appeared as Toplin and Jerry as "Crazy Steve". They star in their own show which is a SpiritualSuccessor to ''Series/DrakeAndJosh''.

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* Not really about the show itself but..''Series/TheAmandaShow'' had Drake and Josh who eventually got their [[Series/DrakeAndJosh own show]]. Miranda played Megan on that show, Nathan appeared as Toplin and Jerry as "Crazy Steve". They star in their own show which is a SpiritualSuccessor to ''Series/DrakeAndJosh''.''Drake & Josh''.



[[WMG: [[DrakeAndJosh Megan Parker]] spends iOMG masquerading as Carly.]]

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[[WMG: [[DrakeAndJosh [[Series/DrakeAndJosh Megan Parker]] spends iOMG masquerading as Carly.]]
19th Mar '16 2:32:26 AM Hossmeister
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* For that matter, Carly kinda seems like a stoner at times too. There are numerous occasions when she repeats a funny sounding word the gently laughs a la BeavisAndButthead. Aside from pranks, she writes most of the material on iCarly which is on the Main page as [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs not being written with a clear head]], I for one love stoner comedy and characters, but they are as close to a G-rated/Nickelodeon version of Female BeavisAndButthead expies as you can get. The writers and cast do a great job of not making Carly and Sam seem like airheads, but shows that they are far from being geniuses, but YMMV.

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* For that matter, Carly kinda seems like a stoner at times too. There are numerous occasions when she repeats a funny sounding word the gently laughs a la BeavisAndButthead. WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead. Aside from pranks, she writes most of the material on iCarly which is on the Main page as [[WhatDoYouMeanItWasntMadeOnDrugs not being written with a clear head]], I for one love stoner comedy and characters, but they are as close to a G-rated/Nickelodeon version of Female BeavisAndButthead WesternAnimation/BeavisAndButthead expies as you can get. The writers and cast do a great job of not making Carly and Sam seem like airheads, but shows that they are far from being geniuses, but YMMV.
7th Mar '16 2:20:45 PM Adept
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[[WMG: iCarly is {{Smosh}}]]

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[[WMG: iCarly is {{Smosh}}]]WebVideo/{{Smosh}}]]
29th Feb '16 3:49:32 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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[[WMG: Sam is somehow related to Coco from {{Zoey101}}]]

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[[WMG: Sam is somehow related to Coco from {{Zoey101}}]]Series/{{Zoey101}}]]



[[WMG: Stacy from {{Zoey101}} is actually Carly's sister.]]

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[[WMG: Stacy from {{Zoey101}} Series/{{Zoey101}} is actually Carly's sister.]]



In DrakeAndJosh, "Drew and Jerry" was shown to be a type 4 ShowWithinAShow. The show that Carly and Spencer were watching in "iGet Pranky" could have been "Drew and Jerry" not DrakeAndJosh. That way, both shows could exist in its own happy little universe (along with {{Zoey101}} and {{Victorious}}) without any contradictions.

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In DrakeAndJosh, "Drew and Jerry" was shown to be a type 4 ShowWithinAShow. The show that Carly and Spencer were watching in "iGet Pranky" could have been "Drew and Jerry" not DrakeAndJosh. That way, both shows could exist in its own happy little universe (along with {{Zoey101}} Series/{{Zoey101}} and {{Victorious}}) without any contradictions.



** Four that look like Miranda: [[DrakeAndJosh Megan]], [[{{Zoey101}} Paige]], [[Series/ICarly Carly]] and herself.
** Four of Jennette: [[{{Zoey101}} Trisha]], [[Series/ICarly Sam, Melanie]] and herself.

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** Four that look like Miranda: [[DrakeAndJosh Megan]], [[{{Zoey101}} [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Paige]], [[Series/ICarly Carly]] and herself.
** Four of Jennette: [[{{Zoey101}} [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Trisha]], [[Series/ICarly Sam, Melanie]] and herself.



** Four girls who look like Victoria: [[{{Zoey101}} Lola]], [[Series/ICarly Shelby]], [[{{Victorious}} Tori]] and herself.

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** Four girls who look like Victoria: [[{{Zoey101}} [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Lola]], [[Series/ICarly Shelby]], [[{{Victorious}} Tori]] and herself.



About {{Zoey101}} – there were some major paradoxes there. The visible evidences are: a. Lola and Quinn were watching iCarly, the web show. That could either mean they live in the same universe, or they live in a universe where iCarly is a TV show, i.e. our universe or some other one; b. There was a full episode about Zoey trying to get DrakeBell to perform. Drake Bell, not [[DrakeAndJosh Drake Parker]]. Ergo, the Zoey 101 universe is our universe, or another universe where Drake Bell exists; c. VictoriaJustice,MirandaCosgrove,Creator/JennetteMcCurdy and Creator/DaniellaMonet has all played characters there that are not Tori/Shelby, Carly, Sam and Trina. Therefore, again, not the same universe. What conflicts all of it is the fact that [[{{Zoey101}} Stacy Dilson]] seems to be a character on iCarly. She was obviously there once, and if you notice you will see her name and other mentions of her (like in iPity Nevel). So, the solution for the characters could be, again, the doppelganger thing. About Drake… I really don’t know. You are welcome to help me with it.

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About {{Zoey101}} – there were some major paradoxes there. The visible evidences are: a. Lola and Quinn were watching iCarly, the web show. That could either mean they live in the same universe, or they live in a universe where iCarly is a TV show, i.e. our universe or some other one; b. There was a full episode about Zoey trying to get DrakeBell to perform. Drake Bell, not [[DrakeAndJosh Drake Parker]]. Ergo, the Zoey 101 universe is our universe, or another universe where Drake Bell exists; c. VictoriaJustice,MirandaCosgrove,Creator/JennetteMcCurdy and Creator/DaniellaMonet has all played characters there that are not Tori/Shelby, Carly, Sam and Trina. Therefore, again, not the same universe. What conflicts all of it is the fact that [[{{Zoey101}} [[Series/{{Zoey101}} Stacy Dilson]] seems to be a character on iCarly. She was obviously there once, and if you notice you will see her name and other mentions of her (like in iPity Nevel). So, the solution for the characters could be, again, the doppelganger thing. About Drake… I really don’t know. You are welcome to help me with it.
9th Feb '16 3:24:17 AM thecarolinabull01
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* Sam seems to exhibit many characteristics of rape trauma syndrome. She doesn't like to be touched, she constantly acts out, appears to be a misandrist by the way she treats Freddie and other guys and even though it can't be canonized, she was probably on drugs and alcohol at least for a while. She may also be slightly agoraphobic since she often hates going places and afraid to be alone since she often stays at Carly's house when her mother is out at night (or when they have an argument). Knowing Sam, she's probably tough enough to shake it off most of the time, but no matter how hard you try to forget, you'll always be reminded of it.

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* Sam seems to exhibit many characteristics of a rape trauma syndrome. victim. She doesn't like to be touched, she constantly acts out, appears to be a misandrist hate men judging by the way she treats Freddie and other guys and even though it can't be canonized, she was probably on drugs and alcohol at least for a while. She may also be slightly agoraphobic since she often hates going places and afraid to be alone since she often stays at Carly's house when her mother is out at night (or when they have an argument). Knowing Sam, she's probably tough enough to shake it off most of the time, but no matter how hard you try to forget, you'll always be reminded of it.
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