History WMG / HouseOfLeaves

18th Aug '16 12:46:52 PM Jhimmibhob
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*** ..."He(Ts'ui Pên) must have said once: I am withdrawing to write a book. And another time: I am withdrawing to construct a labyrinth. Every one imagined two works; to no one did it occur that the book and the maze were one and the same thing".-Creator/JorgeLuisBorges...who just happened to write a short story called "The House of Asterion" about [[spoiler: the Minotaur.]] Definitely not a coincidence.

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*** ..."He(Ts'ui Pên) must have said once: I am withdrawing to write a book. And another time: I am withdrawing to construct a labyrinth. Every one imagined two works; to no one did it occur that the book and the maze were one and the same thing".-Creator/JorgeLuisBorges...who just happened to write a short story called "The House of Asterion" about [[spoiler: the Minotaur.]] Minotaur]], and who went blind. Definitely not a coincidence.
5th May '16 4:02:31 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: The Minotaur is the same entity as the Minotaur from DavidBowie's ''1.outside''.]]

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[[WMG: The Minotaur is the same entity as the Minotaur from DavidBowie's Music/DavidBowie's ''1.outside''.]]
3rd May '16 4:40:51 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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[[WMG:The Minotaur is [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi Beatrice.]]]]

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[[WMG:The Minotaur is [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi [[VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry Beatrice.]]]]
3rd Feb '16 10:07:03 PM rtan
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** Alternatively, Pelafina made the whole thing up. The house is her own expansive yet deteriorating mind. Navidson represents her efforts to understand what is happening to her. Zampano, her effort to make sense of this attempt at understanding. All presented to Johnny, her darling child that she killed as an infant. Only Pelafina is real. ABCDEFGH''I(Pelafina)johnnyZ(ampano).''
8th Oct '15 3:59:13 PM nombretomado
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A house that has an endless basement? Monsters living in the walls? Obviously Johnny is JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac.

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A house that has an endless basement? Monsters living in the walls? Obviously Johnny is JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac.
ComicBook/JohnnyTheHomicidalManiac.
26th Jul '15 12:35:06 PM StFan
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** Actually, this is supported by the fact that the first Slenderblog, JustAnotherFool, had its protagonist live on Ash Tree Lane.

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** Actually, this is supported by the fact that the first Slenderblog, JustAnotherFool, ''Blog/JustAnotherFool'', had its protagonist live on Ash Tree Lane.
9th Jul '15 10:53:40 AM Patch444
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* Nidhogg is also known as the infamous "carrion-remover" or corpse-eater of Helheim, the Norse land of the dead. It devours the corpses of the damned, which parallels how the "creature" consumed Holloway. This would also explain the "something" that Holloway believed the "beast" was waiting for as well as why it waited so long to strike. As a corpse-eater, Nidhogg would have no business devouring Holloway while he was alive. So it waited. Stalked him. Taunted him. Until he punched his ticket and was ready to be consumed.
** Also, Nidhogg's purpose in eating the corpses of the dead served as a janitorial duty of sorts, kind of like a maid, which one of the people who gave his two cents on the Nadvison Record described the monster of the house as.
24th May '15 4:08:12 PM nombretomado
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The last part, "who not only found themselves in those strangely arranged pages but also discovered a way back into the lives of their estranged children," is exactly like what happens to Will Navidson in his final journey into the house - he brings along a copy of a book called ''HouseOfLeaves'' and burns it as he reads it. He then gets out of the house for the last time after having completely burned the book.

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The last part, "who not only found themselves in those strangely arranged pages but also discovered a way back into the lives of their estranged children," is exactly like what happens to Will Navidson in his final journey into the house - he brings along a copy of a book called ''HouseOfLeaves'' ''Literature/HouseOfLeaves'' and burns it as he reads it. He then gets out of the house for the last time after having completely burned the book.



* WikiWord: Turns blue to link to another place, making each page of TVTropes effectively BiggerOnTheInside. The [[HouseOfLeaves House]]: Typed in blue in the book as the first indication that the [[HouseOfLeaves House]] is like a WikiWord, linking to another place, and BiggerOnTheInside.

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* WikiWord: Turns blue to link to another place, making each page of TVTropes effectively BiggerOnTheInside. The [[HouseOfLeaves [[Literature/HouseOfLeaves House]]: Typed in blue in the book as the first indication that the [[HouseOfLeaves [[Literature/HouseOfLeaves House]] is like a WikiWord, linking to another place, and BiggerOnTheInside.



[[WMG: ''Series/{{House}}'' shares a universe with ''HouseOfLeaves'', and Dr. Gregory House comes from that house.]]

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[[WMG: ''Series/{{House}}'' shares a universe with ''HouseOfLeaves'', ''Literature/HouseOfLeaves'', and Dr. Gregory House comes from that house.]]
16th May '15 7:28:29 AM rainyjay
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** Johny shows behavior like this when he gives all of Lude's dates messed up back stories, and when he tries to convince himself that he had a happy ending. Obviously, making up stories is normal for him.

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** Johny Johnny shows behavior like this when he gives all of Lude's dates messed up back stories, and when he tries to convince himself that he had a happy ending. Obviously, making up stories is normal for him.



I don't mean nothing in the traditional sense. I mean he was being attacked my absence itself. Much like Holloway and the Navidson family. The panic attacks (like the "don't look behind you" one or the one in his apartment) weren't just figments of his imagination. It was nothing assaulting him, it just manifested itself as, well, nothing. He felt it attacking him, he knew all the terrible things that could happen, and he saw it all in his mind but in reality there wasn't anything there because the attacker was "nothing."

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I don't mean nothing in the traditional sense. I mean he was being attacked my by absence itself. Much like Holloway and the Navidson family. The panic attacks (like the "don't look behind you" one or the one in his apartment) weren't just figments of his imagination. It was nothing assaulting him, it just manifested itself as, well, nothing. He felt it attacking him, he knew all the terrible things that could happen, and he saw it all in his mind but in reality there wasn't anything there because the attacker was "nothing."



This would explain the dreamlike bizarreness of the house, as well as the special attention to that particular word.

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This would explain the dreamlike bizarreness bizarre nature of the house, as well as the special attention to that particular word.



The Navidson family went to our universe using the house because they wanted to distance themselves from thier experiences in the house. They took on false names and seperated from eachother to hide from the house. Will became Zampano, Karen became Pelafina, and Chad became Johnny. Zampano raised Daisy and Pelafina raised Johnny (who both forgot about the house). To further hide from the house, Pelafina married Johnny's "father" and they both only communicated to each other through hidden messages. Unfortunately for Zampano, that wasn't enough.

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The Navidson family went to our universe using the house because they wanted to distance themselves from thier experiences in the house. They took on false names and seperated separated from eachother each other to hide from the house. Will became Zampano, Karen became Pelafina, and Chad became Johnny. Zampano raised Daisy and Pelafina raised Johnny (who both forgot about the house). To further hide from the house, Pelafina married Johnny's "father" and they both only communicated to each other through hidden messages. Unfortunately for Zampano, that wasn't enough.



[[WMG:This book is realated to, stay with me, ''WiiFit'']]

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[[WMG:This book is realated related to, stay with me, ''WiiFit'']]



* I agree with your explanation, exspecially since the house is on Ash Tree lane. (The walls are described as ash-like, in theory the labyrinth is the yggdrasil tree, ie "Ash Tree.") It should be noted that in early sources, the Yggdrasil was an Ash tree specifically.

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* I agree with your explanation, exspecially especially since the house is on Ash Tree lane. (The walls are described as ash-like, in theory the labyrinth is the yggdrasil tree, ie i.e. "Ash Tree.") It should be noted that in early sources, the Yggdrasil was an Ash tree specifically.



One of the footnotes in the book refers to the Universe pre-big bang as a place of infinite Destiny. Johnny notes that this is probably a typo, and that Zampano meant to say "Density" but look at it this way. Johnny constantly mentions things that happen in the book, only they never actually happen. The Johnny that we are following doesn't go down these paths, yet he constantly sees his own death, or sees minor things changed from what they were. Because he can see into these infinite possibilites, he starts to GoMadFromTheRevelation. Zampano could also see into these infinite "what-ifs", and the house on Ash Tree Lane was the physical manifestation of infinite possibilities becoming known. The reason Johnny can see all of these possible futures is because he, himself was never meant to exist. He was the child in the Mother's Story. In that world, he died, but in another world, he lived, and from that branch, Johnny could see into every fragment of time. Branches. Trees. Yggdrassil. In another timeline, Johnny might have become the Minotaur, or Zampano, either trying to stop himself before his mind broke under the strain of omniscience, or to give the gift of omniscience to himself through the book.

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One of the footnotes in the book refers to the Universe pre-big bang as a place of infinite Destiny. Johnny notes that this is probably a typo, and that Zampano meant to say "Density" but look at it this way. Johnny constantly mentions things that happen in the book, only they never actually happen. The Johnny that we are following doesn't go down these paths, yet he constantly sees his own death, or sees minor things changed from what they were. Because he can see into these infinite possibilites, possibilities, he starts to GoMadFromTheRevelation. Zampano could also see into these infinite "what-ifs", and the house on Ash Tree Lane was the physical manifestation of infinite possibilities becoming known. The reason Johnny can see all of these possible futures is because he, himself was never meant to exist. He was the child in the Mother's Story. In that world, he died, but in another world, he lived, and from that branch, Johnny could see into every fragment of time. Branches. Trees. Yggdrassil. In another timeline, Johnny might have become the Minotaur, or Zampano, either trying to stop himself before his mind broke under the strain of omniscience, or to give the gift of omniscience to himself through the book.



[[WMG: There is a piece of the begining of the universe stuck under the earth below the house.]]

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[[WMG: There is a piece of the begining beginning of the universe stuck under the earth below the house.]]



And/Or Johnny is a Cult of Ecstasy mage captured by Nephandi, and the entire book is his stream-of-conciousness experience inside a Nephandic caul, which is the Labyrinth, which is an Umbral sub-realm accessed through a house.

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And/Or Johnny is a Cult of Ecstasy mage captured by Nephandi, and the entire book is his stream-of-conciousness stream-of-consciousness experience inside a Nephandic caul, which is the Labyrinth, which is an Umbral sub-realm accessed through a house.



and the whole story where Johnny goes to Ashley's house is made-up. He thinks that Thumper hasn't called him back because she said her name was Ashely on the phone, Thumper laughs when he tells her about Ashley because she is her, and also his mother had the same problem with him.

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and the whole story where Johnny goes to Ashley's house is made-up. He thinks that Thumper hasn't called him back because she said her name was Ashely Ashley on the phone, Thumper laughs when he tells her about Ashley because she is her, and also his mother had the same problem with him.



Nevermind all the conections to Borges work, Zampanò is a blind old man writting a MindScrew book, using references that doesn't exist, about a fictional movie.

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Nevermind Never mind all the conections conenctions to Borges work, Zampanò is a blind old man writting writing a MindScrew book, using references that doesn't exist, about a fictional movie.



In a very literal sense, this is a book about nothing. By that, I don't mean that it's incomprehensible, but rather, that it's about the Heideggerian concept of nothingess. The House is a place where, for some reason, temporal and spatial deformities can lead a person physically into a realm outside of the Universe. That realm is less "outside", though, then it is just ''not''. The chief distinction between it and the normal world is that the normal world is alienated from it and set in opposition to it. It's enormous, vast, ever changing, and becoming lost there results in the eventual loss of self when the nothingness around you starts to close in and you become alienated from yourself. That state of not-being is the Minotaur, and is why the word is crossed out several times when it appears.

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In a very literal sense, this is a book about nothing. By that, I don't mean that it's incomprehensible, but rather, that it's about the Heideggerian concept of nothingess.nothingness. The House is a place where, for some reason, temporal and spatial deformities can lead a person physically into a realm outside of the Universe. That realm is less "outside", though, then it is just ''not''. The chief distinction between it and the normal world is that the normal world is alienated from it and set in opposition to it. It's enormous, vast, ever changing, and becoming lost there results in the eventual loss of self when the nothingness around you starts to close in and you become alienated from yourself. That state of not-being is the Minotaur, and is why the word is crossed out several times when it appears.



[[WMG: The Navidsons are real, but we are ficticious.]]
Each layer outward becomes more ficticious.

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[[WMG: The Navidsons are real, but we are ficticious.fictitious.]]
Each layer outward becomes more ficticious.
fictitious.



Around this: a semi-scholarly film review by an eccentric who gets some key points wrong, such as forgetting about teminal velocity.

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Around this: a semi-scholarly film review by an eccentric who gets some key points wrong, such as forgetting about teminal terminal velocity.



Each layer deeper into fiction we get, the less evidence remains of the Navidson's existance. We are the fiction within the fiction within the fiction within the fiction within the Navidson's reality.

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Each layer deeper into fiction we get, the less evidence remains of the Navidson's existance. Navidsons' existence. We are the fiction within the fiction within the fiction within the fiction within the Navidson's Navidsons' reality.
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