History WMG / HellstarRemina

4th Apr '16 5:01:40 PM GopherBroke
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-> If the construction company had been responsible for building colonies on Mars or the Moon, that would explain why they would want an astronomically themed spokesperson. It would also give them a reason to just have a shuttle lying around, which the brother would know how to fly after going to school to be an astronaut and flunking out, too ashamed to return to his family. They could land on the planet Remina, unaware of the fate of everyone else who went there and building tension through dramatic irony. Then, they could discover the true nature of the humanoid figures, creatures that were absorbed by the planet in the past and now want to put a stop to its warpath before it can destroy another world. Creatures that know Remina and the planet actually ''are''connected. That Remina really is calling the planet to the Earth. That she really can't be killed except in a ritual execution. Creatures that sent one of their own to lead the cult that tries to kill her. Remina becomes a planetary-scale version of Tomie. The hobo is just totally fucked after trying to do the right thing. It's a bizarre twist that makes more sense, and ties the story back into the themes usually used by Ito.

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-> If the construction company had been responsible for building colonies on Mars or the Moon, that would explain why they would want an astronomically themed spokesperson. It would also give them a reason to just have a shuttle lying around, which the brother would know how to fly after going to school to be an astronaut and flunking out, too ashamed to return to his family. They could land on the planet Remina, unaware of the fate of everyone else who went there and building tension through dramatic irony. Then, they could discover the true nature of the humanoid figures, creatures that were absorbed by the planet in the past and now want to put a stop to its warpath before it can destroy another world. Creatures that know Remina and the planet actually ''are''connected. That Remina really is calling the planet to the Earth.Earth, acting as a figure similar to Nyarlathotep as a projection of the Outer Gods. That she really can't be killed except in a ritual execution. Creatures that sent one of their own to lead the cult that tries to kill her. Remina becomes a planetary-scale version of Tomie. The hobo is just totally fucked after trying to do the right thing. It's a bizarre twist that makes more sense, and ties the story back into the themes usually used by Ito.
4th Apr '16 4:58:11 PM GopherBroke
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--> If the construction company had been responsible for building colonies on Mars or the Moon, that would explain why they would want an astronomically themed spokesperson. It would also give them a reason to just have a shuttle lying around, which the brother would know how to fly after going to school to be an astronaut and flunking out, too ashamed to return to his family. They could land on the planet Remina, unaware of the fate of everyone else who went there and building tension through dramatic irony. Then, they could discover the true nature of the humanoid figures, creatures that were absorbed by the planet in the past and now want to put a stop to its warpath before it can destroy another world. Creatures that know Remina and the planet actually ''are''connected. That Remina really is calling the planet to the Earth. That she really can't be killed except in a ritual execution. Creatures that sent one of their own to lead the cult that tries to kill her. Remina becomes a planetary-scale version of Tomie. The hobo is just totally fucked after trying to do the right thing. It's a bizarre twist that makes more sense, and ties the story back into the themes usually used by Ito.

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--> -> If the construction company had been responsible for building colonies on Mars or the Moon, that would explain why they would want an astronomically themed spokesperson. It would also give them a reason to just have a shuttle lying around, which the brother would know how to fly after going to school to be an astronaut and flunking out, too ashamed to return to his family. They could land on the planet Remina, unaware of the fate of everyone else who went there and building tension through dramatic irony. Then, they could discover the true nature of the humanoid figures, creatures that were absorbed by the planet in the past and now want to put a stop to its warpath before it can destroy another world. Creatures that know Remina and the planet actually ''are''connected. That Remina really is calling the planet to the Earth. That she really can't be killed except in a ritual execution. Creatures that sent one of their own to lead the cult that tries to kill her. Remina becomes a planetary-scale version of Tomie. The hobo is just totally fucked after trying to do the right thing. It's a bizarre twist that makes more sense, and ties the story back into the themes usually used by Ito.
4th Apr '16 4:57:46 PM GopherBroke
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* This story just has a bizarre number of loose plot threads, and too much symbolism that never goes anywhere. Why ''did'' the planet show up on Remina's birthday and then make a new line straight for Earth? What did Remina do to get famous, and why a construction firm? Who was the original lead cultist, and why does he never show up again? How in the hell did Remina survive the nuclear blast that ''cooked her father's corpse''? There are a lot of potentially interesting physical parallels between people and the planet (including the lead cultist, and one scene where Remina's eyes look surprisingly like the planet's), but they never go anywhere. The hobo's astronomical knowledge is hinted at, but goes nowhere. All of it would make more sense if the story were originally longer before being curtailed due to a publishing schedule, or something along those lines.

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* This story just has a bizarre number of loose plot threads, and too much symbolism that never goes anywhere. Why ''did'' the planet show up on Remina's birthday and then make a new line straight for Earth? What did Remina do to get famous, and why a construction firm? Who was the original lead cultist, and why does he never show up again? How in the hell did Remina survive the nuclear blast that ''cooked her father's corpse''? Just what are those figures on Remina? There are a lot of potentially interesting physical parallels between people and the planet (including the lead cultist, and one scene where Remina's eyes look surprisingly like the planet's), but they never go anywhere. The hobo's astronomical knowledge is hinted at, but goes nowhere. Remina survives bizarre situations (including a nuclear blast shown to cook someone next to her, and a fall that killed almost literally everyone else. Every time she's about to be murdered, it seems like Remina ''intervenes''. All of it would make more sense if the story were originally longer before being curtailed due to a publishing schedule, or something along those lines.lines.

--> If the construction company had been responsible for building colonies on Mars or the Moon, that would explain why they would want an astronomically themed spokesperson. It would also give them a reason to just have a shuttle lying around, which the brother would know how to fly after going to school to be an astronaut and flunking out, too ashamed to return to his family. They could land on the planet Remina, unaware of the fate of everyone else who went there and building tension through dramatic irony. Then, they could discover the true nature of the humanoid figures, creatures that were absorbed by the planet in the past and now want to put a stop to its warpath before it can destroy another world. Creatures that know Remina and the planet actually ''are''connected. That Remina really is calling the planet to the Earth. That she really can't be killed except in a ritual execution. Creatures that sent one of their own to lead the cult that tries to kill her. Remina becomes a planetary-scale version of Tomie. The hobo is just totally fucked after trying to do the right thing. It's a bizarre twist that makes more sense, and ties the story back into the themes usually used by Ito.
4th Apr '16 4:10:50 PM GopherBroke
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[[WMG: Planet Remina actually ''is'' controlled by the human Remina, and so is the lead cultist.]]
There are just too many connections between Remina and the planet that bears her name for them to be entirely coincidental. They came into the Universe at roughly the same time, the planet comes almost directly for her world out of everywhere in the Universe that it could have gone (even though it eats ''stars'', which would suggest that the Earth is very small for it), and despite several attempts on her life, Remina is one of the very few people who doesn't die when the planet comes to destroy the world. As her hobo rescuer puts it, there are a metric buttload of "miracles" that happen to keep her alive when almost anyone else would be long dead, most of them connected in some way to the planet's actions.

Rather than being deliberately and consciously controlled by Remina like the mob seems to think, though, the planet is under her subconscious control. Its actions are a sort of wish fulfillment for the darker aspects of her personality. She wants to be left alone, so it comes to remove the crowds that surround her. Obviously she doesn't want them dead, but the planet is a more base and animalistic part of her personality that doesn't really care, something like Freud's concept of the id.

Of course, being an otherwise normal human being, Remina doesn't really want to destroy the world. This part of her is represented as the lead cultist, who has some notable physical similarities to the planet. After this aspect of herself kills her father, however (most likely out of anger at him for bringing her and by extension the planet into being), she develops a deeper hatred of it and it never appears alive again.

Remina is left alive by the planet, along with a handful of survivors, because it represents the part of her that has a strong will to survive. The number of people left with her is relatively small, and most of them seem to like her. Whether she actually will remain alive or not is up in the air, but not out of the question since, if this is correct, she is probably a HumanoidAbomination of some sort that could ensure the survival of her small group. Humanity may be doomed in the long run (the remaining population is nowhere near large enough to establish a healthy species), but she's probably going to live a long and relatively happy life.

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[[WMG: Planet Remina actually ''is'' controlled by the human Remina, ''Hellstar Remina'' was originally intended to be longer, and so is the lead cultist.significantly different.]]
* This story just has a bizarre number of loose plot threads, and too much symbolism that never goes anywhere. Why ''did'' the planet show up on Remina's birthday and then make a new line straight for Earth? What did Remina do to get famous, and why a construction firm? Who was the original lead cultist, and why does he never show up again? How in the hell did Remina survive the nuclear blast that ''cooked her father's corpse''? There are just too many connections a lot of potentially interesting physical parallels between Remina people and the planet that bears her name for them to be entirely coincidental. They came into the Universe at roughly the same time, the planet comes almost directly for her world out of everywhere in the Universe that it could have gone (even though it eats ''stars'', which would suggest that the Earth is very small for it), and despite several attempts on her life, Remina is one of the very few people who doesn't die when the planet comes to destroy the world. As her hobo rescuer puts it, there are a metric buttload of "miracles" that happen to keep her alive when almost anyone else would be long dead, most of them connected in some way to the planet's actions.

Rather than being deliberately and consciously controlled by Remina like the mob seems to think, though, the planet is under her subconscious control. Its actions are a sort of wish fulfillment for the darker aspects of her personality. She wants to be left alone, so it comes to remove the crowds that surround her. Obviously she doesn't want them dead, but the planet is a more base and animalistic part of her personality that doesn't really care, something like Freud's concept of the id.

Of course, being an otherwise normal human being, Remina doesn't really want to destroy the world. This part of her is represented as
(including the lead cultist, who has some notable physical similarities to and one scene where Remina's eyes look surprisingly like the planet. After this aspect of herself kills her father, however (most likely out of anger at him for bringing her and by extension the planet into being), she develops a deeper hatred planet's), but they never go anywhere. The hobo's astronomical knowledge is hinted at, but goes nowhere. All of it and it never appears alive again.

Remina is left alive by
would make more sense if the planet, story were originally longer before being curtailed due to a publishing schedule, or something along with a handful of survivors, because it represents the part of her that has a strong will to survive. The number of people left with her is relatively small, and most of them seem to like her. Whether she actually will remain alive or not is up in the air, but not out of the question since, if this is correct, she is probably a HumanoidAbomination of some sort that could ensure the survival of her small group. Humanity may be doomed in the long run (the remaining population is nowhere near large enough to establish a healthy species), but she's probably going to live a long and relatively happy life.those lines.
10th Mar '16 8:31:27 PM GopherBroke
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* There are just too many connections between Remina and the planet that bears her name for them to be entirely coincidental. They came into the Universe at roughly the same time, the planet comes almost directly for her world out of everywhere in the Universe that it could have gone (even though it eats ''stars'', which would suggest that the Earth is very small for it), and despite several attempts on her life, Remina is one of the very few people who doesn't die when the planet comes to destroy the world. As her hobo rescuer puts it, there are a metric buttload of "miracles" that happen to keep her alive when almost anyone else would be long dead, most of them connected in some way to the planet's actions.

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* There are just too many connections between Remina and the planet that bears her name for them to be entirely coincidental. They came into the Universe at roughly the same time, the planet comes almost directly for her world out of everywhere in the Universe that it could have gone (even though it eats ''stars'', which would suggest that the Earth is very small for it), and despite several attempts on her life, Remina is one of the very few people who doesn't die when the planet comes to destroy the world. As her hobo rescuer puts it, there are a metric buttload of "miracles" that happen to keep her alive when almost anyone else would be long dead, most of them connected in some way to the planet's actions.
10th Mar '16 8:30:20 PM GopherBroke
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** Incidentally, the song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-16SX4Vv4 Planet Hell]] is pretty fitting for the events of the story...

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** Incidentally, the song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-16SX4Vv4 Planet Hell]] is pretty fitting for the events of the story...story...

[[WMG: Planet Remina actually ''is'' controlled by the human Remina, and so is the lead cultist.]]
* There are just too many connections between Remina and the planet that bears her name for them to be entirely coincidental. They came into the Universe at roughly the same time, the planet comes almost directly for her world out of everywhere in the Universe that it could have gone (even though it eats ''stars'', which would suggest that the Earth is very small for it), and despite several attempts on her life, Remina is one of the very few people who doesn't die when the planet comes to destroy the world. As her hobo rescuer puts it, there are a metric buttload of "miracles" that happen to keep her alive when almost anyone else would be long dead, most of them connected in some way to the planet's actions.

Rather than being deliberately and consciously controlled by Remina like the mob seems to think, though, the planet is under her subconscious control. Its actions are a sort of wish fulfillment for the darker aspects of her personality. She wants to be left alone, so it comes to remove the crowds that surround her. Obviously she doesn't want them dead, but the planet is a more base and animalistic part of her personality that doesn't really care, something like Freud's concept of the id.

Of course, being an otherwise normal human being, Remina doesn't really want to destroy the world. This part of her is represented as the lead cultist, who has some notable physical similarities to the planet. After this aspect of herself kills her father, however (most likely out of anger at him for bringing her and by extension the planet into being), she develops a deeper hatred of it and it never appears alive again.

Remina is left alive by the planet, along with a handful of survivors, because it represents the part of her that has a strong will to survive. The number of people left with her is relatively small, and most of them seem to like her. Whether she actually will remain alive or not is up in the air, but not out of the question since, if this is correct, she is probably a HumanoidAbomination of some sort that could ensure the survival of her small group. Humanity may be doomed in the long run (the remaining population is nowhere near large enough to establish a healthy species), but she's probably going to live a long and relatively happy life.
11th Feb '16 2:25:22 PM tooearlyinthemorning
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* Planet Remina is the witch form of a magical girl (could be Madoka's?) and after [[spoiler: Madoka's universe changing wish]], this whole event never happened.

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* Planet Remina is the witch form of a magical girl (could be Madoka's?) and after [[spoiler: Madoka's universe changing wish]], this whole event never happened.
22nd Jul '15 2:47:32 PM Arachnos
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* Inspired by an idea on the YMMV page. The events of the manga are literally the biblical Apocalypse, and Planet Remina is Hell itself rising up to consume the sinners. In the end, Remina herself, the Hobo and their group of survivors have been deemed worthy to ascend into Heaven.

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* Inspired by an idea on the YMMV page. The events of the manga are literally the biblical Apocalypse, and Planet Remina is Hell itself rising up to consume the sinners. In the end, Remina herself, the Hobo and their group of survivors have been deemed worthy to ascend into Heaven.Heaven.
** Incidentally, the song [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR-16SX4Vv4 Planet Hell]] is pretty fitting for the events of the story...
22nd Jul '15 12:13:55 PM Arachnos
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* So direct contact with Remina's hostile atmosphere causes instant disintegration and mutation into a [[BodyHorror fleshy horror]]. Maybe if Remina is close enough to another planet with life, some isolated particles of Remina's atmosphere can occasionally reach and infect the atmosphere of the other planet, causing mild mutations. Like head cultist [[spoiler:Goda]]'s tongue.

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* So direct contact with Remina's hostile atmosphere causes instant disintegration and mutation into a [[BodyHorror fleshy horror]]. Maybe if Remina is close enough to another planet with life, some isolated particles of Remina's atmosphere can occasionally reach and infect the atmosphere of the other planet, causing mild mutations. Like head cultist [[spoiler:Goda]]'s tongue.tongue.

[[WMG: Remina is not merely from Hell. Remina '''is''' Hell.]]
* Inspired by an idea on the YMMV page. The events of the manga are literally the biblical Apocalypse, and Planet Remina is Hell itself rising up to consume the sinners. In the end, Remina herself, the Hobo and their group of survivors have been deemed worthy to ascend into Heaven.
22nd Jul '15 11:58:58 AM Arachnos
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* Planet Remina is the witch form of a magical girl (could be Madoka's?) and after [[spoiler: Madoka's universe changing wish]], this whole event never happened.

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* Planet Remina is the witch form of a magical girl (could be Madoka's?) and after [[spoiler: Madoka's universe changing wish]], this whole event never happened.happened.

[[WMG: Remina can mildly mutate people at a distance]]
* So direct contact with Remina's hostile atmosphere causes instant disintegration and mutation into a [[BodyHorror fleshy horror]]. Maybe if Remina is close enough to another planet with life, some isolated particles of Remina's atmosphere can occasionally reach and infect the atmosphere of the other planet, causing mild mutations. Like head cultist [[spoiler:Goda]]'s tongue.
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