History WMG / GunnerkriggCourt

13th Mar '16 8:00:14 PM GopherBroke
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** Or, more likely, that Coyote has some ability (however limited) to see the future or is trying to suggest to Antimony that he can.
6th Mar '16 1:21:44 PM Lullabee
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[[WMG: Winsbury used to be a female forest creature]]
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"Willie Winsbury from Gunnerkrigg Court was a female badger or racoon who took "the test" and became a human child.

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# His appearance is more cartoony/exaggerated than other human background characters. His hair goes straight up and he kind of looks like a badger.

# Early in the comic he has a kind of prickly personality and lashes out for no reason-- just like a forest creature disturbed in its lair! -- but eventually he mellows out as the human side of his personality predominates.

# We never hear about his family or background, even though we do hear about the families of other minor characters

# In the chapter where they all sneak out at night, [[http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=934 Janet reminds Willie to sing the boys' part of a song, and he responds "sometimes I forget]] [that I am no longer [[http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=1478 a female forest creature]]]" (note if he strongly identified as female he would be less likely to "sometimes forget" what gender he is; probably he does not care just like the jackalope Annie meets in later chapters)

# Janet's father would go crazy if he found out that his daughter (/possible future hereditary headmistress?) were seriously dating a forest creature, because of the uneasy court/forest diplomatic situation, explaining why Janet and Willie hide their relationship."

Also, Willie Winsbury is a [[http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/eng/child/ch100.htm pretty ridiculous name]], so might not have been picked out normally by human parents, and also ties in with the possibility his relationship with Janet is forbidden by her father.
3rd Mar '16 1:55:08 PM Wixelt
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* Though all things considered, Diego was an old man in the final part of the recording, so logically, he could have married and/or had children during the elapsed time. Chances would just be that it wasn't out of love is all.




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* This would make far too much sense. ...I support you entirely on this.
17th Feb '16 11:35:48 PM Garvalan
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[[WMG: Annie and Kat will become personifications of the Forest and the Court.]]
During the events of 'Give and take' we already got to see that there is a huge diference between the way Annie and Kat see the world, with Annie being intuitive and etheric while Kat is technical and analytical. Also, the robots believin Kat is an angel may actually turning her into some kind of deity, but even if it's subtler, the forest people may doing the same thing to Annie, as we get to see in 'Tall tales', which sets her up perfectly to become a forest deity, maybe even to replace Coyote.
11th Feb '16 11:26:02 AM DrNovakaine
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* That second one wasn't actually a ghost, so unlikely. Also, if she's at the court for any special reason, it's because she can talk to animals.




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* And she DID cross over the river - that's how Annie got that cut on her etheric face.




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* Getting Jean to the ether IS an overarching goal for Annie now, but it seems to still be a ways away from happening.




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* This actually might have something to it. Recall also that when Jeanne was holding the Blinker Stone, Annie couldn't call it back. It was only after it was separated from her that Annie was able to get it back into her possession. Of course, that leaves the question of what happens now that the stone's been destroyed...
11th Feb '16 10:41:06 AM DrNovakaine
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* Chapter 43 puts this firmly to bed. He did intend to possess Annie, knowing full well what it would do. And he deeply regrets it.




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* At least partly confirmed. Chapter 53 shows that Surma wanted to leave in part because she didn't want Annie born there and in part because she didn't want her friends to see her waste away, so her conception was indeed the catalyst. As for the response from the group of friends, there's no indication that Donald and Anja were upset about it, however some indistinct conflict with James Eglamore was mentioned...knowing that James loved Surma, it's entirely possible that his reaction to finding out was exactly as WMGed.




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* This, plus the destruction of her Blinker Stone, definitely have an effect, but it appears not to be insurmountable, if Yesngrin and Renard are to be believed. Most likely the direction it's going well have Annie gaining much better control out of necessity, and ending up more capable than before.




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* More likely she just used that to bury her anger at him, anger which is now being manifest in other ways (Chapter 57) since she's not cut off from it thanks to Ysengrin destroying her Blinker Stone.


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[[WMG: Annie's powers are partly driven by ThePowerOfFriendship.]]
Because she's more in tune with the ether, she's more affected by human minds and strong etheric beings. Her relative isolation before was a severe limiter on her abilities just as much as her lack of understanding of them, but as she formed more friendships and connected with more people, she became stronger. While there are inner factors as well - her own understanding of her abilities and her emotions clearly have major impact - those external bonds provide a great source of strength, allowing her abilities to manifest more potently. When she's cut off from everyone in The Tree, it seems initially like she's weakened again, but it becomes rapidly clear that her powers are still there, and quite potent (roasting Ysengrin in Meetings and Re-Meetings, burning a ball in an instant in Get It Together), a signal that others still believe in her and have that bond with her - they're just not as under her control due to her own emotional turmoil.
10th Feb '16 3:51:50 PM DrNovakaine
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[[WMG: Anthony will eventually be a major ally to Antimony.]]
There's no denying the miserable start, but the meeting with Donnie revealed two important things: he doesn't really want to be an the Court, and he regrets how he's treated Annie. He's not a happy man, and would be very much against the court...if he had the will to do so. But he doesn't, and he concedes to authority without a real fight - much like Annie did to him. Annie's struggle against him will essentially fuel his own resistance - the stronger she becomes, the stronger he'll become. Returning Renard and getting her back to the forest were only small steps, but more will come as Annie learns to manage her anger and properly use it against him (he needs her fire, basically). In the end, they'll start working together in resistance, and he'll be more open with her like he was with Donnie, and that will drive a significant part of the endgame of the comic.
6th Feb '16 9:04:56 PM jormis29
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Being a fox, Renard didn't stick around after [[Anime/PrincessMononoke Moro]] had cubs. The events of the movie may or may not have happened, but Moro definitely died at the hands of humans. Time passes and word reaches him about the Court. Bitterness ebbs away when he meets Surma. She is very much like his beloved Moro... And for sake of lightening up this WMG, Moro is the daughter of [[VideoGame/{{Okami}} Ammy]] or her son [[{{Okamiden}} Chibi.]]

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Being a fox, Renard didn't stick around after [[Anime/PrincessMononoke Moro]] had cubs. The events of the movie may or may not have happened, but Moro definitely died at the hands of humans. Time passes and word reaches him about the Court. Bitterness ebbs away when he meets Surma. She is very much like his beloved Moro... And for sake of lightening up this WMG, Moro is the daughter of [[VideoGame/{{Okami}} Ammy]] or her son [[{{Okamiden}} [[VideoGame/{{Okamiden}} Chibi.]]
29th Jan '16 3:54:32 PM FantiSci
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29th Jan '16 3:52:02 PM FantiSci
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[[WMG: The Court is a supernatural protection racket.]]
Anthony's back story doesn't seem to make much sense: he was desperate to escape the Court, saw death as a more attractive option than being dragged back, and massively resents their interference in his life. Yet he handed over his daughter (who he does love, for all he has a ''strange'' way of showing it) to them, and threatening Annie with expulsion was enough to make Anthony fall into line with their demands. However, their plan was to expel Annie from "the program" ''after'' she graduated, and was therefore an adult. Indeed, the Court seems to have a firm grasp on its graduates -- many of them never left. Why would Anthony favour his daughter's effective imprisonment, living under constant surveillance and subject to Gunnerkrigg's manipulations and demands, to a life as an independent adult? Because perhaps "independent adult" isn't really an option: we saw what happened to Zimmy when she was outwith the Court. It offers a measure of protection to its devotees, keeping them in an environment where there are few people around (less collateral damage if someone's powers/experiments go berserk), allowing them the illusion of freedom (until they decide they don't like what you're doing) and educating them to a high standard. However, they want their pound of flesh: you were raised by the Court, so you serve the Court. For the rest of your life. Presumably, outcasts either can't control their powers outwith the Court/Forest environment, or there's a direct threat to supernatural beings in the more mundane world. Perhaps the Court even helps said threats locate wayward students...or tampers with the ex-students' abilities, so that they ''can't'' be used, and being BroughtDownToNormal has terrible psychological effects. Either way, there has to be something fairly sinister out there, if being exiled is viewed as AFateWorseThanDeath, and the Court is happy to exploit that fear.
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