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5th May '16 2:41:05 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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[[WMG:The Reapers are [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann anti-spirals]].]]

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[[WMG:The Reapers are [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann anti-spirals]].]]
19th Apr '16 10:32:14 AM MicoolTNT
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** You forgot "warp around like a bitch, read the other guy's moves [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard (controller inputs)]], outright cast illusions, MindControl people, and possibly even sacrifice one of them to turn back time on his defeat".

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** You forgot "warp around like a bitch, attack with/from warped space, read the other guy's moves [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard (controller inputs)]], outright cast illusions, MindControl people, and possibly even sacrifice one of them to turn back time on his defeat".
19th Apr '16 10:29:57 AM MicoolTNT
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** You forgot "warp around like a bitch, read the other guy's moves [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard (controller inputs)]], outright cast illusions, MindControl people, and possibly even sacrifice one of them to turn back time on his defeat".
31st Jan '16 9:06:57 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: SHODAN from SystemShock is based on Reaper technology.]]

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[[WMG: SHODAN from SystemShock ''VideoGame/SystemShock'' is based on Reaper technology.]]
29th Jun '15 5:08:27 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}} and ''Franchise/MassEffect'' take place in the same universe--same galaxy, even.]]

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[[WMG: Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}} ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}'' and ''Franchise/MassEffect'' take place in the same universe--same galaxy, even.]]
7th Jan '15 10:49:07 AM crazysamaritan
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* They shed off all organs they did not need to [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife browse TV Tropes]], therefore becoming flying jellyfish with many arms for [[WikiWalk opening new tabs]]. They were never able to fully kick their habit of referring to themselves as ThisTroper.

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* They shed off all organs they did not need to [[TVTropesWillRuinYourLife browse TV Tropes]], therefore becoming flying jellyfish with many arms for [[WikiWalk opening new tabs]]. They were never able to fully kick their habit of referring to themselves as ThisTroper.
This Troper.
29th Aug '13 4:16:34 AM EarlOfSandvich
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[[WMG: The Combine from the ''HalfLife'' universe fled the Reapers.]]
* The whole reason they became a pandimensional empire in the first place was that they were using their tunnelling technology to escape the Reapers. In the ''Franchise/MassEffect'' universe, they left what we'd consider to be the "prime" dimension and never returned. In the ''HalfLife'' universe, the Black Mesa incident caused them to take an interest in mankind prior to their contact with the Citadel races. The apparent telekinetic ability of Advisors? Biotics. Their telepathy? An adaptation of the tech behind Reaper indoctrination, something else powered by their amps. Overwatch pulse rifles use identical tech to the hand-sized mass accelerator rifles of ''Franchise/MassEffect'' , and Strider distortion cannons are directly analogous to the unstable mass effect fields created by disruptor weapons.

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[[WMG: The Combine from the ''HalfLife'' universe ''VideoGame/HalfLife2'' fled the Reapers.]]
* The whole reason they became a pandimensional empire in the first place was that they were using their tunnelling technology to escape the Reapers. In the ''Franchise/MassEffect'' universe, they left what we'd consider to be the "prime" dimension and never returned. In the ''HalfLife'' ''VideoGame/HalfLife'' universe, the Black Mesa incident caused them to take an interest in mankind prior to their contact with the Citadel races. The apparent telekinetic ability of Advisors? Biotics. Their telepathy? An adaptation of the tech behind Reaper indoctrination, something else powered by their amps. Overwatch pulse rifles use identical tech to the hand-sized mass accelerator rifles of ''Franchise/MassEffect'' , and Strider distortion cannons are directly analogous to the unstable mass effect fields created by disruptor weapons.
17th Jul '13 10:18:10 AM Viira
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[[WMG: On a related note, ''MassEffect'' is the ancient history of the ''StarWars'' Galaxy]]
* We know from the descriptions of Xim the Despot's Empire that accelerated projectile weapons like those used by the species of ''MassEffect'' were the main armaments used before the rise of the Galactic Republic. When the Reapers finally return, humans succeed in destroying them by converting the Citadel into a massive element-zero powered sun-destroying tractor beam, i.e. Centerpoint Station. But they are nearly wiped out in the process - only the remote and sparsely populated colony worlds of Coruscant and Corellia avoid being destroyed or indoctrinated. The Citadel Council races of Mass Effect's time period become legends known only as "The Celestials." The asari, due to their practice of mating with other species, undergo mutation that makes them a bi-gendered race which results in the birth of the Twi'lek species. The hanar become the Gree and, wanting to hold on to the sacred relics of the Prothean "Enkindlers," are the only species which successfully preserve a series of mass effect relays, which become known as "hypergates" but will sadly be only non-operational relics that no one knows how to use by the time of the Empire. The drell become the Barabels, the turians become the Taung/Mandalorians, the salarians become the Duros, the keepers become the Verpine and Killiks, and the geth become the first droids.

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[[WMG: On a related note, ''MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' is the ancient history of the ''StarWars'' Galaxy]]
* We know from the descriptions of Xim the Despot's Empire that accelerated projectile weapons like those used by the species of ''MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' were the main armaments used before the rise of the Galactic Republic. When the Reapers finally return, humans succeed in destroying them by converting the Citadel into a massive element-zero powered sun-destroying tractor beam, i.e. Centerpoint Station. But they are nearly wiped out in the process - only the remote and sparsely populated colony worlds of Coruscant and Corellia avoid being destroyed or indoctrinated. The Citadel Council races of Mass Effect's time period become legends known only as "The Celestials." The asari, due to their practice of mating with other species, undergo mutation that makes them a bi-gendered race which results in the birth of the Twi'lek species. The hanar become the Gree and, wanting to hold on to the sacred relics of the Prothean "Enkindlers," are the only species which successfully preserve a series of mass effect relays, which become known as "hypergates" but will sadly be only non-operational relics that no one knows how to use by the time of the Empire. The drell become the Barabels, the turians become the Taung/Mandalorians, the salarians become the Duros, the keepers become the Verpine and Killiks, and the geth become the first droids.



** Seeing how ''MassEffect'' is basically ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' with the setting cleaned up to remove the worst excesses of Star Wars, and that game was concerned heavily with the origin of the earliest known history of the Star Wars galaxy, this one is more insightful than your average WMG.

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** Seeing how ''MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' is basically ''KnightsOfTheOldRepublic'' with the setting cleaned up to remove the worst excesses of Star Wars, and that game was concerned heavily with the origin of the earliest known history of the Star Wars galaxy, this one is more insightful than your average WMG.



[[WMG: ''MassEffect'' takes place in Warhammer 40000 during the Dark Age of Technology]]

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[[WMG: ''MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' takes place in Warhammer 40000 during the Dark Age of Technology]]



[[WMG: Xenogears is set in the future of the ''MassEffect'' universe]]

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[[WMG: Xenogears is set in the future of the ''MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' universe]]



** Revelations in ''[[MassEffect Mass Effect 2]]'' lend more supporting evidence. [[spoiler: Reapers in Mass Effect are formed very similarly to how Deus rebuilds itself on the Xenogears planet. Both Reapers and Deus use people as "parts." The wels are analogous to husks. This shows that Deus is a Reaper, or a Reaper replica, built by humans, which turned against its masters and attempted to return to the Milky Way in order to join the other Reapers.]]

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** Revelations in ''[[MassEffect Mass Effect 2]]'' ''VideoGame/MassEffect2'' lend more supporting evidence. [[spoiler: Reapers in Mass Effect are formed very similarly to how Deus rebuilds itself on the Xenogears planet. Both Reapers and Deus use people as "parts." The wels are analogous to husks. This shows that Deus is a Reaper, or a Reaper replica, built by humans, which turned against its masters and attempted to return to the Milky Way in order to join the other Reapers.]]



[[WMG: Likewise, ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' and VideoGame/ChronoCross also take place somewhere in the MassEffect universe]]

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[[WMG: Likewise, ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' and VideoGame/ChronoCross also take place somewhere in the MassEffect ''Franchise/MassEffect'' universe]]



[[WMG: ''MassEffect'' takes place in an alternate Halo universe]]

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[[WMG: ''MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' takes place in an alternate Halo universe]]



[[WMG: ''MassEffect'' is set in the future of the CthulhuMythos]]

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[[WMG: ''MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' is set in the future of the CthulhuMythos]]



* The whole reason they became a pandimensional empire in the first place was that they were using their tunnelling technology to escape the Reapers. In the ''MassEffect'' universe, they left what we'd consider to be the "prime" dimension and never returned. In the ''HalfLife'' universe, the Black Mesa incident caused them to take an interest in mankind prior to their contact with the Citadel races. The apparent telekinetic ability of Advisors? Biotics. Their telepathy? An adaptation of the tech behind Reaper indoctrination, something else powered by their amps. Overwatch pulse rifles use identical tech to the hand-sized mass accelerator rifles of ''MassEffect'' , and Strider distortion cannons are directly analogous to the unstable mass effect fields created by disruptor weapons.

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* The whole reason they became a pandimensional empire in the first place was that they were using their tunnelling technology to escape the Reapers. In the ''MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' universe, they left what we'd consider to be the "prime" dimension and never returned. In the ''HalfLife'' universe, the Black Mesa incident caused them to take an interest in mankind prior to their contact with the Citadel races. The apparent telekinetic ability of Advisors? Biotics. Their telepathy? An adaptation of the tech behind Reaper indoctrination, something else powered by their amps. Overwatch pulse rifles use identical tech to the hand-sized mass accelerator rifles of ''MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' , and Strider distortion cannons are directly analogous to the unstable mass effect fields created by disruptor weapons.



[[WMG: ''Franchise/DragonAge'' is a distant prequel to ''MassEffect''.]]

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[[WMG: ''Franchise/DragonAge'' is a distant prequel to ''MassEffect''.''Franchise/MassEffect''.]]



** The Maker may refer to a non-human religion; faiths seem to intermingle in the ''MassEffect'' universe. Some turians, for example, embrace Buddhism, and the hanar religion worshipping the Enkindlers is popular among young drell.

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** The Maker may refer to a non-human religion; faiths seem to intermingle in the ''MassEffect'' ''Franchise/MassEffect'' universe. Some turians, for example, embrace Buddhism, and the hanar religion worshipping the Enkindlers is popular among young drell.



[[WMG: Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}} and MassEffect take place in the same universe--same galaxy, even.]]

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[[WMG: Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}} and MassEffect ''Franchise/MassEffect'' take place in the same universe--same galaxy, even.]]



[[WMG: [[MassEffect The Reapers]] are [[{{Bionicle}} The Great Beings.]]]]

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[[WMG: [[MassEffect [[Franchise/MassEffect The Reapers]] are [[{{Bionicle}} The Great Beings.]]]]
16th Jul '13 10:46:01 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* Shepard, on the other hand, is Spiral being equal in power to Simon. Just think about all the times s/he did something BeyondTheImpossible, e.g. surviving the Harbinger's WaveMotionGun, which can '''tear apart dreadnaught'''. It was, by the way, stated in-universe, that Shepard's true power is to inspire his allies, and ''Inspiration is Spiral Power''.

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* Shepard, on the other hand, is a Spiral being equal in power to Simon. Just think about all the times s/he did something BeyondTheImpossible, e.g. surviving the Harbinger's WaveMotionGun, which can '''tear apart dreadnaught'''. It was, by the way, stated in-universe, that Shepard's true power is to inspire his allies, and ''Inspiration is Spiral Power''.
7th Jul '13 3:46:41 AM Saendra
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** Shepard, on the other hand, is Spiral being equal in power to Simon. Just think about all the times s/he did something BeyondTheImpossible, e.g. surviving the Harbinger's WaveMotionGun, which can '''tear apart dreadnaught'''. It was, by the way, stated in-universe, that Shepard's true power is to inspire his allies, and ''Inspiration is Spiral Power''.
*** And [[spoiler: his/her clone]] is the beastman, obviously, Viral's counterpart: WorthyOpponent to Shepard, but lacks his/her crucial trait - ability to inspire allies. Also, he was created by Cerberus (see below).
*** Also, [[JustForFun Tali is Leeron and Garrus is Yoko]]. [[RunningGag But without deadly kisses]].
** The Illusive Man is Lorgenome's counterpart - once talented leader, who defended his people against Reaper threat, he became FallenHero due to their ifluence and started to oppress his allies in order to insure their survival.
*** Then the Cerberus is, obviously, counterpart to beastmen forces: [[WellIntentionedExtremist they arguably do something good]], but for obvious reason lack the people's support. Some of their top-ranking officers even slightly resemble Lorgenome's: Miranda is Adiane, beautiful IceQueen, who hides her feelings, Kai Leng is Cytomander, fast as wind, young and arrogant, Oleg is Guam, calm, reasonable and responsible, and, as stated above, [[spoiler: Shepard's clone]] is Viral.
** All that brings a drop of FridgeLogic: while Refuse ending is obvious victory of Anti-Spiral, of three other two are indirectly lead to it too:
*** In Control ending [[spoiler: Shepard]] instead of [[spoiler: Catalyst]] becomes Anti-Spiral King. He's benevolent (maybe), yes, but he still has the same modus operandi as the [[spoiler: Catalyst]], and is just the other solution to the same problem. Also, the [[spoiler: Catalyst]] was created by the Race that was the apex of organic evolution [[spoiler: ([[UnreliableNarrator or they just say so]])]], and each Reaper stores all experience of the race he was created of. And now everyone can get it, so the progress just lost significance.
*** In Synthesis ending we have Control without the Anti-Spiral King, and all the other is UpToEleven.
*** Finally, the Control ending is the only one, which through sacrifices opens the path to further advancement to all races and releases them from the ties of the Reapers'.

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** * Shepard, on the other hand, is Spiral being equal in power to Simon. Just think about all the times s/he did something BeyondTheImpossible, e.g. surviving the Harbinger's WaveMotionGun, which can '''tear apart dreadnaught'''. It was, by the way, stated in-universe, that Shepard's true power is to inspire his allies, and ''Inspiration is Spiral Power''.
*** ** And [[spoiler: his/her clone]] is the beastman, obviously, Viral's counterpart: WorthyOpponent to Shepard, but lacks his/her crucial trait - ability to inspire allies. Also, he was created by Cerberus (see below).
*** ** Also, [[JustForFun Tali is Leeron and Garrus is Yoko]]. [[RunningGag But without deadly kisses]].
** * The Illusive Man is Lorgenome's counterpart - once talented leader, who defended his people against Reaper threat, he became FallenHero due to their ifluence and started to oppress his allies in order to insure their survival.
*** ** Then the Cerberus is, obviously, counterpart to beastmen forces: [[WellIntentionedExtremist they arguably do something good]], but for obvious reason lack the people's support. Some of their top-ranking officers even slightly resemble Lorgenome's: Miranda is Adiane, beautiful IceQueen, who hides her feelings, Kai Leng is Cytomander, fast as wind, young and arrogant, Oleg is Guam, calm, reasonable and responsible, and, as stated above, [[spoiler: Shepard's clone]] is Viral.
** * All that brings a drop of FridgeLogic: while Refuse ending is obvious victory of Anti-Spiral, of three other two are indirectly lead to it too:
*** ** In Control ending [[spoiler: Shepard]] instead of [[spoiler: Catalyst]] becomes Anti-Spiral King. He's benevolent (maybe), yes, but he still has the same modus operandi as the [[spoiler: Catalyst]], and is just the other solution to the same problem. Also, the [[spoiler: Catalyst]] was created by the Race that was the apex of organic evolution [[spoiler: ([[UnreliableNarrator or they just say so]])]], and each Reaper stores all experience of the race he was created of. And now everyone can get it, so the progress just lost significance.
*** ** In Synthesis ending we have Control without the Anti-Spiral King, and all the other is UpToEleven.
*** ** Finally, the Control ending is the only one, which through sacrifices opens the path to further advancement to all races and releases them from the ties of the Reapers'.
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