History WMG / Gargoyles

19th Jul '16 2:16:07 AM Morgenthaler
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* No, no, no. He's [[SugarWiki/TVTropesWillEnhanceYourLife helping us all do better in English]]. Once he reveals himself as our benefactor, he can use his army of DangerouslyGenreSavvy indebted literary critics (who ''willingly'' put themselves through TrainingFromHell) to get rid of his Shakespearean and folkloric enemies without getting his hands dirty. Face it, we owe him now.

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* No, no, no. He's [[SugarWiki/TVTropesWillEnhanceYourLife helping us all do better in English]]. Once he reveals himself as our benefactor, he can use his army of DangerouslyGenreSavvy GenreSavvy indebted literary critics (who ''willingly'' put themselves through TrainingFromHell) to get rid of his Shakespearean and folkloric enemies without getting his hands dirty. Face it, we owe him now.
10th Jul '16 3:41:35 PM LadyEvil
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In the comics, Hudson's youngest daughter Truth (placeholder name) is shown requesting a Wind Ceremony for the murdered gargoyles. In the City of Stone flashbacks, she is nowhere to be seen. In fact, the veritable squadron she led in the comics is severely dwindled. Here's why. After awhile, Truth and a few other gargoyles realized their leader was a few sandwiches short of a picnic and decided to go off and start another clan. They discovered some humans building a castle much more quickly than humans of the time could accomplish. They met with the four humans in charge of the new castle, learning that they were wizards building a school for witchcraft that they would call Hogwarts. They asked if they'd like some gargoyles to help guard the place. Gryffindor always admired the courage and fighting spirit of gargoyles and voted yes. Hufflepuff thought taking in these outcasts was the only decent thing to do. Slytherin voted against having such impure creatures corrupting their students and believed their magic meant there was no need for gargoyles. Ravenclaw needed time to think it over, but decided extra protection in any form would be a logical choice. Slytherin did insist on a rule against students being out of their dorms after dark so they wouldn't meet the gargoyles often. The gargoyles of the clan would take turns wearing a magic amulet that would keep them awake by day so they could guard the headmaster's office.

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In the comics, Hudson's youngest daughter Truth (placeholder name) is shown requesting a Wind Ceremony for the murdered gargoyles. In the City of Stone flashbacks, she is nowhere to be seen. In fact, the veritable squadron she Demona led in the comics is severely dwindled. Here's why. After awhile, Truth and a few other gargoyles realized their leader was a few sandwiches short of a picnic and decided to go off and start another clan. They discovered some humans building a castle much more quickly than humans of the time could accomplish. They met with the four humans in charge of the new castle, learning that they were wizards building a school for witchcraft that they would call Hogwarts. They asked if they'd like some gargoyles to help guard the place. Gryffindor always admired the courage and fighting spirit of gargoyles and voted yes. Hufflepuff thought taking in these outcasts was the only decent thing to do. Slytherin voted against having such impure creatures corrupting their students and believed their magic meant there was no need for gargoyles. Ravenclaw needed time to think it over, but decided extra protection in any form would be a logical choice. Slytherin did insist on a rule against students being out of their dorms after dark so they wouldn't meet the gargoyles often. The gargoyles of the clan would take turns wearing a magic amulet that would keep them awake by day so they could guard the headmaster's office.


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23rd Jun '16 3:56:38 PM LadyEvil
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One of the things Demona shows Brooklyn in Temptation to convince him of mankind's evils is a murder scene. The murder weapon was clearly a Smith&Wesson Governor.45 (or possibly a Taurus Judge) easily recognized by the distinctive long cylinder. Earlier, when Brooklyn was being attacked by a gang of bikers, one of them pulls a gun on him which is also clearly a S&W Governor. This isn't a particularly common gun so two of them showing up at two different crime scenes a few miles and hours apart is very unlikely. Since Demona probably arranged the attack on Brooklyn, she probably also paid the bikers to perform a murder as well and they then left the gun at the scene.

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One of the things Demona shows Brooklyn in Temptation to convince him of mankind's evils is a murder scene. The murder weapon was clearly a Smith&Wesson Governor.45 (or possibly a Taurus Judge) easily recognized by the distinctive long cylinder. Earlier, when Brooklyn was being attacked by a gang of bikers, one of them pulls a gun on him which is also clearly a S&W Governor. This isn't a particularly common gun so two of them showing up at two different crime scenes a few miles and hours apart is very unlikely. Since Demona probably arranged the attack on Brooklyn, she probably also paid the bikers to perform a murder as well and they then left the gun at the scene.scene.

[[WMG: Truth survived to adulthood, due to a HarryPotter connection.]]
In the comics, Hudson's youngest daughter Truth (placeholder name) is shown requesting a Wind Ceremony for the murdered gargoyles. In the City of Stone flashbacks, she is nowhere to be seen. In fact, the veritable squadron she led in the comics is severely dwindled. Here's why. After awhile, Truth and a few other gargoyles realized their leader was a few sandwiches short of a picnic and decided to go off and start another clan. They discovered some humans building a castle much more quickly than humans of the time could accomplish. They met with the four humans in charge of the new castle, learning that they were wizards building a school for witchcraft that they would call Hogwarts. They asked if they'd like some gargoyles to help guard the place. Gryffindor always admired the courage and fighting spirit of gargoyles and voted yes. Hufflepuff thought taking in these outcasts was the only decent thing to do. Slytherin voted against having such impure creatures corrupting their students and believed their magic meant there was no need for gargoyles. Ravenclaw needed time to think it over, but decided extra protection in any form would be a logical choice. Slytherin did insist on a rule against students being out of their dorms after dark so they wouldn't meet the gargoyles often. The gargoyles of the clan would take turns wearing a magic amulet that would keep them awake by day so they could guard the headmaster's office.
Gryffindor made an attempt to parlay with Demona and invite her and the rest of the clan to stay at Hogwarts. Demona refused to even listen to a human's proposal. When he said he was not an ordinary human but a wizard, Demona flew into a rage and would've killed Gryffindor if he didn't have both a sword and wand. Demona's memory of this event is somewhat warped. She sees Gryffindor as a wicked human who stole members of her clan then attacked her.
Since then, there has been a clan of gargoyles watching over Hogwarts. Harry met one guarding Dumbledor's office. They were among those who defended the castle during the Battle of Hogwarts. As for Truth, she took a mate, bore 3 eggs and died at the ripe age of 185. This means Hudson has some great to the nth power grandchildren he doesn't know about. Because Hogwarts is implottable, he may never know.
29th May '16 5:34:24 AM Doug86
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* '''Gargoyles''' are '''[[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} Mutants]]'''. They both work on the same premise: intelligent, human-like creatures with seemingly supernatural powers, from a parallel species that evolved alongside humans and exists to protect them even as they're hated and feared by them. The difference is that they're a true ''species'' (not just humans with deformities and weird powers), they have a consistent physiology, their appearance is inhuman enough that quietly living among humans isn't an option, they've had centuries to develop their own unique culture, they've only ''barely'' escaped complete extinction, and they don't have a benevolent Charles Xavier {{Expy}} to speak on their behalf.

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* '''Gargoyles''' are '''[[ComicBook/{{X-Men}} '''[[ComicBook/XMen Mutants]]'''. They both work on the same premise: intelligent, human-like creatures with seemingly supernatural powers, from a parallel species that evolved alongside humans and exists to protect them even as they're hated and feared by them. The difference is that they're a true ''species'' (not just humans with deformities and weird powers), they have a consistent physiology, their appearance is inhuman enough that quietly living among humans isn't an option, they've had centuries to develop their own unique culture, they've only ''barely'' escaped complete extinction, and they don't have a benevolent Charles Xavier {{Expy}} to speak on their behalf.
24th May '16 6:09:06 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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[[WMG: ''Gargoyles'' will be remade soon in order to compete with the new {{Voltron}} and TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series on {{Nickelodeon}} and ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats 2011}} [=ThunderCats (2011)=]]]'' coming to Creator/CartoonNetwork]]

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[[WMG: ''Gargoyles'' will be remade soon in order to compete with the new {{Voltron}} Anime/{{Voltron}} and TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles series on {{Nickelodeon}} and ''[[WesternAnimation/{{Thundercats 2011}} [=ThunderCats (2011)=]]]'' coming to Creator/CartoonNetwork]]
24th Mar '16 6:29:28 PM beatpole
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One of the things Demona shows Brooklyn in Temptation to convince him of man kinds evils is the scene of a murder. The murder weapon was clearly a Smith&Wesson Governor.45 (or possibly a Taurus Judge) easily recognized by the distinctive long cylinder. Earlier when Brooklyn was being attacked by a gang of bikers one of them pulls a gun on him, also clearly a S&W Governor. This isn't a particularly common gun so two of them showing up at two different crime scenes a few miles and hours apart is very unlikely. Since Demona probably arranged the attack on Brooklyn, she probably also paid the bikers to perform a murder as well.

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One of the things Demona shows Brooklyn in Temptation to convince him of man kinds mankind's evils is the scene of a murder.murder scene. The murder weapon was clearly a Smith&Wesson Governor.45 (or possibly a Taurus Judge) easily recognized by the distinctive long cylinder. Earlier Earlier, when Brooklyn was being attacked by a gang of bikers bikers, one of them pulls a gun on him, him which is also clearly a S&W Governor. This isn't a particularly common gun so two of them showing up at two different crime scenes a few miles and hours apart is very unlikely. Since Demona probably arranged the attack on Brooklyn, she probably also paid the bikers to perform a murder as well.well and they then left the gun at the scene.
24th Mar '16 6:26:20 PM beatpole
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One of the things Demona shows Brooklyn to convince him of man kinds evils is the scene of a murder. The murder weapon was clearly a Smith&Wesson Governor.45 (or possibly a Taurus Judge) easily recognized by the distinctive long cylinder. Earlier when Brooklyn was being attacked by a gang of bikers one of them pulls a gun on him, also clearly a S&W Governor. This isn't a particularly common gun so two of them showing up at two different crime scenes a few miles and hours apart is very unlikely. Since Demona probably arranged the attack on Brooklyn, she probably also paid the bikers to perform a murder as well.

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One of the things Demona shows Brooklyn in Temptation to convince him of man kinds evils is the scene of a murder. The murder weapon was clearly a Smith&Wesson Governor.45 (or possibly a Taurus Judge) easily recognized by the distinctive long cylinder. Earlier when Brooklyn was being attacked by a gang of bikers one of them pulls a gun on him, also clearly a S&W Governor. This isn't a particularly common gun so two of them showing up at two different crime scenes a few miles and hours apart is very unlikely. Since Demona probably arranged the attack on Brooklyn, she probably also paid the bikers to perform a murder as well.
24th Mar '16 6:25:03 PM beatpole
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It's not just a matter of contract disputes and licensing laws and not seeing eye-to-eye with Disney; the guy's been working up [[KudzuPlot new arcs and potential spinoffs and other stories set in the same world]] for so long that he could ''never'' truly resolve all possible plot threads. He's built a fantasy world every bit as complicated as J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle Earth, and Tolkien never actually considered himself finished with his stories either. Even if it somehow escapes TheChrisCarterEffect, ''Gargoyles'' and all of its affiliates are never going to be completed any more than the stories of Marvel and D.C. ever have been.

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It's not just a matter of contract disputes and licensing laws and not seeing eye-to-eye with Disney; the guy's been working up [[KudzuPlot new arcs and potential spinoffs and other stories set in the same world]] for so long that he could ''never'' truly resolve all possible plot threads. He's built a fantasy world every bit as complicated as J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle Earth, and Tolkien never actually considered himself finished with his stories either. Even if it somehow escapes TheChrisCarterEffect, ''Gargoyles'' and all of its affiliates are never going to be completed any more than the stories of Marvel and D.C. ever have been.been.

[[WMG: The murderer in Temptation was one of the bikers]]
One of the things Demona shows Brooklyn to convince him of man kinds evils is the scene of a murder. The murder weapon was clearly a Smith&Wesson Governor.45 (or possibly a Taurus Judge) easily recognized by the distinctive long cylinder. Earlier when Brooklyn was being attacked by a gang of bikers one of them pulls a gun on him, also clearly a S&W Governor. This isn't a particularly common gun so two of them showing up at two different crime scenes a few miles and hours apart is very unlikely. Since Demona probably arranged the attack on Brooklyn, she probably also paid the bikers to perform a murder as well.
21st Nov '15 7:42:54 PM Nakuyabi
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"The story is told, though who can say if it be true, of a [[EvilliousChronicles girl named Margarita]] who married Marquis Blankenheim. Heartbroken to find that he didn't truly love her, Margarita made a vial of poison that she gave him, insisting that it was a sleeping potion that would bring sweet dreams."

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"The story is told, though who can say if it be true, of a [[EvilliousChronicles girl named Margarita]] who married Marquis Blankenheim. Heartbroken to find that he didn't truly love her, Margarita made a vial of poison that she gave him, insisting that it was a sleeping potion that would bring sweet dreams.""

[[WMG: No matter how many events may break in his favor, Greg Weisman is never, ever, ''ever'' going to finish the story.]]
It's not just a matter of contract disputes and licensing laws and not seeing eye-to-eye with Disney; the guy's been working up [[KudzuPlot new arcs and potential spinoffs and other stories set in the same world]] for so long that he could ''never'' truly resolve all possible plot threads. He's built a fantasy world every bit as complicated as J.R.R. Tolkien's Middle Earth, and Tolkien never actually considered himself finished with his stories either. Even if it somehow escapes TheChrisCarterEffect, ''Gargoyles'' and all of its affiliates are never going to be completed any more than the stories of Marvel and D.C. ever have been.
21st Oct '15 5:32:07 PM nombretomado
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** So Standards and Practices at {{Disney}} have a fear of heights, and are making their dramatic cartoons as scary as possible...

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** So Standards and Practices at {{Disney}} Creator/{{Disney}} have a fear of heights, and are making their dramatic cartoons as scary as possible...
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