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3rd Jan '16 10:36:07 AM nombretomado
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Sounds a little irrelevant, but I really think that he has it in him. Why? First of all, just look at how much he loves his little brother, to the point where he'd literally die for him. Second, and this one is a little more "meta-ish", but his voice actor is also [[PapaWolf Spirit]] from ''SoulEater'', and [[TeamDad Tamaki]][[note]]To be fair, more of a TeamMom, but considers Haruhi like a "daughter" of sorts[[/note]] in ''OuranHighSchoolHostClub''. Not to mention his general JerkWithAHeartOfGold persona, and the way he really took to Nina and Elicia. Kind of stupid, probably very self-evident, but I still felt the need to mention.
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Sounds a little irrelevant, but I really think that he has it in him. Why? First of all, just look at how much he loves his little brother, to the point where he'd literally die for him. Second, and this one is a little more "meta-ish", but his voice actor is also [[PapaWolf Spirit]] from ''SoulEater'', ''Manga/SoulEater'', and [[TeamDad Tamaki]][[note]]To be fair, more of a TeamMom, but considers Haruhi like a "daughter" of sorts[[/note]] in ''OuranHighSchoolHostClub''.''Manga/OuranHighSchoolHostClub''. Not to mention his general JerkWithAHeartOfGold persona, and the way he really took to Nina and Elicia. Kind of stupid, probably very self-evident, but I still felt the need to mention.
20th Dec '15 8:09:09 PM Cleric_Quarion
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*Yes, if their body is intact enough - and in that case you wouldn't need alchemy, you'd just have to use whatever cocktail of drugs doctors use when someone flatlines during surgery.
20th Dec '15 7:24:33 PM Cleric_Quarion
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**That, or a 'soul' is simply the electrical energy inherent in the brain of a sentient lifeform, since the only tried-and-tested way of making new souls is to make new people. Thus, the reason people can't bring dead souls back is a) they're trying to collect something fully formed rather than recreate something; b) even if they did try to remake the soul, they're trying to make something that doesn't exist, like a transmutation aiming to make elemental water would always fail - water isn't an element and a 'soul' is just a pattern of electrons; c) even if you did just try to make the brain of the person exactly how it was, you cannot know enough about that brain without having done the ''most'' in-depth MRI scan possible at the ''instant'' of death or being a deity-level being whose job it is to know ''literally everything about literally everything.'' Thus, the closest humans can come to playing with souls is either creating new ones, as humans do, or moving the energy keeping a 'soul' in someone's body to the centre of a transmutation circle - resulting in a braindead person and a Philosopher's Stone. Admittedly this hypothesis doesn't explain inter-soul conflict or how a soul can retain its form long for five minutes, let alone five centuries, but it fits close enough to the rest of it that someone else can figure that out.
11th Nov '15 6:32:05 PM loulikessoup
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They're prince and princess of their respective clans, both in line for the throne that would likely only be allowed to go to the emperor's direct descendents. I gotta say, with 50 clans in Xing, that emperor sure gets around.
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They're prince and princess of their respective clans, both in line for the throne that would likely only be allowed to go to the emperor's direct descendents. I gotta say, with 50 clans in Xing, that emperor sure gets around.around. [[WMG: Father letting go of Pride is what made him fail to become "human"]] Okay, this might be fairly confusing, but bear with me: As we see in the end, all the Homunculi (and Father) actually wanted was to be human, to have friends and families and to understand what it's like to be human (Who could better understand what being human is about than an actual human?). Though it's not explicitly stated for every one of them, it's safe to assume they all have similar desires. Now, Father acts according to the seven deadly vices even after he let go of them (He seeks power at all costs/Greed; views humans as "ants"/Pride; devours souls with no self-control/Gluttony; has a desire for a family like humans/Envy; prefers to let others do his bidding for him/Sloth; feels anger towards any opposition, principally Hohenheim/Wrath; and lusts after becoming a perfect being/Lust). It may be that by letting go of his vices, he didn't actually get rid of the "flaws" that come with them, but the ability to learn from them and therefore be "human". We get some evidence of that as he takes back Greed for a short time, during which he acts a lot more friendly towards others than before and after (by his standards, which doesn't say much, but it's still there. And Greed just wants to make friends). After all, being a good person is not about having no flaws, but rather about overcoming them (as is the moral of this story). This might also be the reason why the other Homunculi all die rather peacefully, or are at least redeemed by death, since they all learn something about being human before dying. Father doesn't learn, and for him death is horrible. Now, the first vice he let go of was Pride, which might actually have been the reason he became (even more) insane in the first place. If we assume that he lost his ability to learn from his vices by seperating them from himself, he had been fighting a battle he already lost from the very beginning. It all boils down to the way you interpret "pride": On one hand, it can mean arrogance, which Pride (and Father) display in spades. But on the other hand, it might run closer along the lines of "being proud of something": Pride/Father just wanted people to be proud of him, to admire him and to look up to him, but he also wanted to be able to be proud of himself. Seeing this is the lesson Father could have learned if he had embraced his pride instead of getting rid of it, which would have meant he would never have done any of the horrible things that happend after Xerxes. Probably this is even the reason why he got rid of his pride first: After thinking about the way humans (collectively) look up to/are proud of people who do good things while looking down on those who kill and do as they please without any regard for the well-being of others, he maybe just couldn't stand that killing all these people in Xerxes actually put him into a position in which most people would look down on him (if he was part of their society, that is - but that's what he ultimately wants.) So in the end, his (and everyone else's) problems started because he was unable to face actually learning from his flaws and mistakes, and in the end he pays the price - even though he could have really become a decent person if he had chosen to act in a way that would allow himself and others to be proud of/admire his actions. It even ties in with the last confrontation Pride has with Kimblee: When he tries to use Ed's body as a container, Kimblee tells him that he looks down on Pride for "giving up his pride as a Humunculus". Pride isn't proud of being a Homunculus/proud of himself, which is why he doesn't see any problem with using Ed's body. He basically has the same problem as Envy, violent overcompensation for actually wanting to live as a human. And on a positive note, Pride is the only Homunculus who doesn't die - and the only one who can really live as a human. So if Father had rather used his pride as a motivation to become a decent person than to act arrogant, he could have reached what he really longed for all this time: A "normal" life, friends and a family. (Sure, he still would've had to deal with the remose of what happened in Xerxes AND he would have lived for a really long time, but the same is true for Hohenheim and even he had a pretty good run and was able to die in peace).
20th Oct '15 1:02:21 PM Willbyr
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** And becomes even more hilarious if you read the first chapter of ShanghaiYoumaKikai (another manga by Hiromu Arakawa). There's literally a sparkling vampire there, and he seems to be related to the Armstrong family somehow...
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** And becomes even more hilarious if you read the first chapter of ShanghaiYoumaKikai ''Manga/ShanghaiYoumaKikai'' (another manga by Hiromu Arakawa). There's literally a sparkling vampire there, and he seems to be related to the Armstrong family somehow...
27th Sep '15 11:11:46 AM Morgenthaler
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* [[strike:Regarding the rape, I was going to think Arakawa would make men the victims, but she doesn't seem like an YaoiFangirl]] It quite makes sense, specially considering her very first manga StrayDog was clearly Miura inspired. I also had a WMG moment when reading this, as [[spoiler:I've always considered Truth-sama and The Idea of Evil the same anyway]], and Pride's and Envy's true forms [[spoiler: as well as Father's]] kinda resemble a bit apostles, and the homunculus could very well be "fake apostles", as in Rosine's elves and Mozgus and his angels; it makes sense since Father can turn people into homunculus much like the apostles can make false-apostles.
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* [[strike:Regarding the rape, I was going to think Arakawa would make men the victims, but she doesn't seem like an YaoiFangirl]] It quite makes sense, specially considering her very first manga StrayDog Manga/StrayDog was clearly Miura inspired. I also had a WMG moment when reading this, as [[spoiler:I've always considered Truth-sama and The Idea of Evil the same anyway]], and Pride's and Envy's true forms [[spoiler: as well as Father's]] kinda resemble a bit apostles, and the homunculus could very well be "fake apostles", as in Rosine's elves and Mozgus and his angels; it makes sense since Father can turn people into homunculus much like the apostles can make false-apostles.
20th Sep '15 12:27:02 PM QCzachQC
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Unrooted my Epileptic Tree
[[WMG: Chimeras are the result of experiments on [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent lycanthropy]] .]] Some alchemists who were studying the type of lycanthropy that was dubbed " genetic " ( which is opposed to the more widespread " clinical " lycanthropy by the fact that those who are " genetic " werewolves can transform at will once a day when normal werewolves are forced to transform every night by the disease ) . Tried to recreated the same gene but with different animal forms. Chimeras were the result of this experiment.
22nd Aug '15 9:25:35 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Edward Elric is [[GundamWing Duo Maxwell's ancestor]]]]
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[[WMG: Edward Elric is [[GundamWing [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Duo Maxwell's ancestor]]]]

If this was true, that would mean the Elric brothers actually went into the ''GundamWing'' universe instead of ours. In the ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' universe, technology's slowed down while alchemy and prosthetic limbs become more advanced. While the other universe specialized in machines not unlike ours. However, there's a chance it could've went to the other extreme with giant robots, space colonies, and all that. Also, geniuses such as the Elric brothers may have influenced the design for HumongousMecha. Really, what else would they do?
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If this was true, that would mean the Elric brothers actually went into the ''GundamWing'' ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' universe instead of ours. In the ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' universe, technology's slowed down while alchemy and prosthetic limbs become more advanced. While the other universe specialized in machines not unlike ours. However, there's a chance it could've went to the other extreme with giant robots, space colonies, and all that. Also, geniuses such as the Elric brothers may have influenced the design for HumongousMecha. Really, what else would they do?
12th Jul '15 7:06:15 PM WC-83
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[[WMG: Ling plans on abolishing the concubine system]] While it is most likely impossible to abolish the system during his lifetime, he lays out a long term, generational plan. Ling ends up having a child (and thus heir) with Lan Fan before they are married, thus she would count as a concubine for the Yao clan in the eyes of the law. Then he would have the children with the other Xingese concubines as per protocol. Ling however would have no intention of naming anyone other than his son with Lan Fan his successor. While on paper every clan has the potential to win the throne, in actuality they have no chance at all. If a clan leader brings attention to this, Ling would accuse them of insulting the Emperor (or some other crime) and order their being ostracized (the other clans wouldn't call him out on this either believing Ling or not wanting to lose his favor and incur the Emperor's wrath). This would continue until the competition has been weeded out/pacified and it is safe to announce a hereditary rule. [[WMG: Ling's title as emperor will be Emperor Ling Yao the Avaricious]] Also, the Xingese Emperors would be given a posthumous name, similar to the Japanese Emperors.
7th Jul '15 4:24:14 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Father is [[{{Lost}} The Man in Black]].]]
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[[WMG: Father is [[{{Lost}} [[Series/{{Lost}} The Man in Black]].]]
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