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20th Apr '18 11:55:11 AM OrangenChan
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* Isn't that canon? It's stated that the emperor takes one concubine from each clan.
20th Apr '18 11:47:56 AM OrangenChan
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* This makes a lot of sense; it would definitely explain why there's such an oddly low number of potential sacrifices. I'd like to add that this is probably why Envy and Lust had seemed interested in Scar -- because they realized he was a risk to their candidates.



* [[{{Megane}} His bad eyesight.]] [[TruthOnTelevision Every recruits on army is required to have good eyesight,]] since you can't use gun without them. He pick his knife skills when his eyesight is still good, so he already adapted with them.

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* [[{{Megane}} His bad eyesight.]] [[TruthOnTelevision [[TruthInTelevision Every recruits on army is required to have good eyesight,]] since you can't use gun without them. He pick his knife skills when his eyesight is still good, so he already adapted with them.
19th Apr '18 4:54:48 PM OrangenChan
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[[WMG: Al uses magnetism to move the suit of armour.]]
The soul is an "electromagnetic pattern", as described by [[ComicBook/WatchMen Professor Milton Glass]] & thus is able to create magnetic forces capable of manipulating metal. This is why bloodseals are only ever used on iron & not other chemicals present in blood. If it were not used on a metallic object, the subject would be unable to move. This may also explain how Al sees without eyes. He is actually "seeing" the effect things around him have on Earth's magnetic field or something like that.

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[[WMG: Al uses magnetism to move the suit of armour.armor.]]
The soul is an "electromagnetic pattern", as described by [[ComicBook/WatchMen Professor Milton Glass]] & thus is able to create magnetic forces capable of manipulating metal. This is why bloodseals blood seals are only ever used on iron & not other chemicals present in blood. If it were not used on a metallic object, the subject would be unable to move. This may also explain how Al sees without eyes. He is actually "seeing" the effect things around him have on Earth's magnetic field or something like that.




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*** Maybe the youngest sibling dropping the piano on their older sibling/s was ''also'' passed down through the Armstrong line? No reason, other than it'd be hilarious.



** This troper says Havoc will meet Becky and cute sparkly love will ensue.
*** Still hope he and Sheska get together. They are pretty much meant for each other, as the pretty nerdy girl that gets unnoticed, and the guy that can't get a girlfriend because no girl really notices his qualities. They'll notice each other and make a geeky couple.

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** * This troper says Havoc will meet Becky and cute sparkly love will ensue.
*** * Still hope he and Sheska get together. They are pretty much meant for each other, as the pretty nerdy girl that gets unnoticed, and the guy that can't get a girlfriend because no girl really notices his qualities. They'll notice each other and make a geeky couple.
7th Apr '18 3:38:06 AM voidkisser
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[[WMG: Mustang is actually a closeted gay man.]]
His womanizer persona is a red herring - he overexaggerates his interest in women and the vast number of dates he goes on to dispel any doubts about his sexuality, since being found out in the early 1900s is a court-martial offense. In canon, the only "date" we see him on [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pbTeL12jl1U/TmXD-k4h6lI/AAAAAAAAB0Q/wzSHjuMFQK4/s0/027.png/html-text-link.htm 1,]] [[http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-1luKdabvpaU/TmXEBa0jqpI/AAAAAAAAB04/fStuSOwkvus/s0/028.png/html-text-link.htm 2]] is with one of the women who works for his aunt, and the "date" part is a cover for the exchange of intel she has collected for him. It's completely likely the rest of the dates he brags about are along the same lines. Being Madame Christmas' foster son, he likely grew up with these women like older sisters. They'd probably be happy to help him hold his cover (also, if they're already providing him with dangerous government secrets, what's one fake date between friends?). His flirting with Riza (or "Elizabeth") over the phone is also just coded information about the mission at hand.
Not to mention his [[HoYay relationship with Hughes]]: the only time he cries in both canons is at Hughes' funeral, and he nearly loses his mind trying to get revenge for Hughes' murder.
24th Mar '18 7:33:16 PM OrangenChan
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* Though it'd likely be so far back that they barely count as related by this point. It'd definitely still [[RuleOfFunny be funny]], though.



* There also could be too much traumatic history between them both. If Riza truely felt bad about giving away her father's secrets and wanted the tattoo destroyed, she could have just gotten another tattooist to make it illegible or even do the burns herself. But she didn't; she asked Roy, the Flame Alchemist, to burn her skin ''so there'd never be another Flame Alchemist''. The sheer amount of guilt and blame being laid in that action is huge. Later on, she tells him that if he breaks her trust again, she'd utterly destroy herself to ruin her father's notes for good. There's no real point to destroying the notes at this point; it was something said to shame Roy and make him feel accountable for her death. Like a lot of other characters in the manga, there's a real undercurrent of guilt, shame, and blame in Roy and Riza, which could be a real stumbling block for any real relationship.

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* There also could be too much traumatic history between them both. If Riza truely truly felt bad about giving away her father's secrets and wanted the tattoo destroyed, she could have just gotten another tattooist to make it illegible or even do the burns herself. But she didn't; she asked Roy, the Flame Alchemist, to burn her skin ''so there'd never be another Flame Alchemist''. The sheer amount of guilt and blame being laid in that action is huge. Later on, she tells him that if he breaks her trust again, she'd utterly destroy herself to ruin her father's notes for good. There's no real point to destroying the notes at this point; it was something said to shame Roy and make him feel accountable for her death. Like a lot of other characters in the manga, there's a real undercurrent of guilt, shame, and blame in Roy and Riza, which could be a real stumbling block for any real relationship.



*** I think you're somewhat missing my point. They're both smart people, they could have found a way to destroy the tattoo themselves if they really wanted to. But the act of the Flame Alchemist burning the secretkeeper of his alchemy so no one else could misuse it is a powerful, almost damning act, one that cannot be easily explained away by just practicality at the time. I also disagree that Riza is the ''only'' person who understand Roy's pain - many other characters are haunted by what they did in Ishbal, like Armstrong using his own alchemy to kill others or the doctor who dissected Roy's burnt corpes. Hell, Riza likes guns because she didn't have to see her enemy die up close, while Roy knows that his lips get greasy from human fat (the manga even emphasises his personal knowledge of burning people to the point of scariness). Their specific shared pain is the betrayal of their ideal to use the flame alchemy to help the country, a betrayal that wounds them both in different ways. But you're right, they do understand each other very very well. What I disagree with is that it's impossible for them to be platonic. In regards to chapter 95, I fail to see how threatening to shoot someone who is about to betray you ''again'' and then saying you're going to destroy yourself for good because of the madness you unleashed is saying 'I can't live without you' and is supposed to be ''romantic''. Killing yourself because your love is dead (''because you killed them'') is disturbing and messed-up, so I really don't understand why Royai fans used that very dark and disturbing exchange as 'proof' that their pairing is canon.
*** I disagree. 1) You say it was a damning act, and in part it was, but what all that burning was about was for Riza to, emotionally and physically, be free from her father's bonds and for Roy to somehow make up his betrayal of her trust to her. That's how Arakawa portrayed it. I really doubt anything other than Roy burning her could have been done, but if you think of something let me know. But my point in that is- that is how Arakawa planned it and wanted it. You need to keep in mind that FMA's characters aren't people, they're just ink and paper of a writer's imagination. 2) I agree with you on the point that others know Roy's pain of ''Ishval'' but again I have to disagree, since what I'm referring to is the number of people killed. For a poor example- the atom bomb. Roy's the bomb, Riza's the scientist. You can't tell me that just because the inventors of the atom bomb weren't out killing Hiroshima's residents they didn't feel a horrible guilt engulfing them. I mean it to this affect. It's the guilt that's being shared there- I don't really understand what you mean by betrayal. How was there a betrayal there? Roy didn't willingly commit genocide. Riza knew that. There could be form of diluted betrayal there, but they obviously still trust each other with their backs; if there was really a sense of betrayal, there'd need to be hatred there, or at least dislike, but there isn't. For me, that's the whole point about Mustang and Hawkeye's relationship- logically speaking, if as you said, it was betrayal that kept those two binded to each other, there should be hate, dislike, weariness, but in the series they've both shown an immense attachment to each other. Riza cries and gives up when she thinks Roy is dead. Roy panicks when he thinks Riza's in danger. Roy gave up on dying when Riza would die too. And, I must point out that in ch. 101, until Riza gave Roy that signal about the chimeras being above ''he still could not make a choice between saving her or committing human transmutation''. 3) You see, this is my point when I say it's not platonic: their relationship is built on the angst they've caused each other, however they trust each other with their lives and care about each other's safety. In ch. 95, Roy was the one being just as 'damning' as you portrayed Hawkeye in the burning-the-tattoo scene, if not more. ''He was telling Riza to kill him''. He'd seen Riza cry when she'd thought he was dead, he'd even commeneted on it a scant chapter or so before, but nonetheless he was so overwhelmed with hatred that he didn't care if he caused her pain (thus his apology and distraught look later on, when he told her to lower her gun). This just proves that ''yes'', '''they are two screwed up people'''. I never denied this. But I don't believe it's platonic at all, simply because Roy stopped his MoralEventHorizon when he knew that he would be damning Riza as well as himself. He cared about her more than himself- and, now that we come to it, since he was planning on dying and throwing all his plans down the drain, he cares about Riza more than he cares about his goal, but my main point is that he cares about'' '''her''' more than ending his pain and just dying''- and isn't caring about someone more than yourself the basics of love? 3.5) Riza saying she'd kill herself is simply because if Roy had forced her to shoot him like she'd promised, she would be too overcome with the pain of it all to carry on; because even if it had been Scar to pull the trigger and not Hawkeye, she would still have been the one who had exposed him to Flame Alchemy and made him capable of Ishval. She was still the one who made Roy into a murderer, and made him capable of CrossingTheLine. The guilt of making her most important person die would have been too much for her-- and yes, there'd be no other option and she ''would'' have to pull the trigger, because in the pair's Ishval-influenced-mindset she ''owed'' him to keep her promise, just like he had owed her to burn her back; it's the guilt behind it all that's making them hurt each other in the end, though it's technically for their own good; Riza didn't want to be bound to her father's alchemy, and Roy didn't want to turn into 'an animal in human skin', no matter how painful and fatal the solutions may have been. Another reason for Riza's possible suicide: Roy and Riza living and working together to change the country is their ''redemption'' for Ishval- it's the only way they can look themselves in the mirror. I think that in ch. 95 all that pain of Ishval and Hughes' death just came rushing to the surface, and the self-loathing within the pair of them manifested into a desire to just die and be done with it. But the reason that tipped the scales, the reason that Roy didn't let Riza shoot him, was not his goal at the end. At the end it was an unwillingness to cause Riza pain again. Despite Scar and Ed's words' affecting him, up until Riza told him she'd die too, Roy was willing to die. - and now I've rambled on again, so I don't really know if you got my point, but here it is: ''Roy and Riza care about each other more than themselves''. I'm not saying it's nice, I'm not even saying it's healthy- however, I don't believe that you can care that much about a person on a platonic level. Not to mention Arakawa herself has dropped [[ShipTease little hints]] various times over the series: when Grumman asked Roy to marry his granddaughter, his reponse was "You're thinking to far ''ahead''" exactly, as well as Roy going into a rage over Barry the Chopper's groping, him calling her "RIZA!" when he was a student, Mustang labelling Riza as his Queen, Chris knowing 'Elizabeth', the gold-tooth scientist calling Hawkeye Roy's 'precious woman' (yes, literally, I read RAWS), Bradley calling her his 'important person', Ed telling Roy not to worry Hawkeye..etc. Taking all this evidence into account, I cannot help but conclude that there is definitely something there. It's not nice, not pretty, as I mentioned before not even healthy because of Ishval's influence, but to call the relations between Hawkeye and Mustang as platonic doesn't do justice to the emotion there.''' 'Love' doesn't have to have to be ''romance'' or nice, or even happy to be ''there''.''' Of course, I'm not saying I can convince you otherwise, I'm just giving my side of the argument. In conclusion, my personal opinion is that Hawkeye and Mustang are willing to spend their lives together. They don't need marriage, and aren't capable of it either (as I said, the only way/time I can see it happening is when they're really old). But they do think of each other as their most important person, and they do put each other, admittance or not, above everyone/everything else. That's all I'm trying to say.

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*** I think you're somewhat missing my point. They're both smart people, they could have found a way to destroy the tattoo themselves if they really wanted to. But the act of the Flame Alchemist burning the secretkeeper secret keeper of his alchemy so no one else could misuse it is a powerful, almost damning act, one that cannot be easily explained away by just practicality at the time. I also disagree that Riza is the ''only'' person who understand Roy's pain - many other characters are haunted by what they did in Ishbal, like Armstrong using his own alchemy to kill others or the doctor who dissected Roy's burnt corpes. corpses. Hell, Riza likes guns because she didn't have to see her enemy die up close, while Roy knows that his lips get greasy from human fat (the manga even emphasises emphasizes his personal knowledge of burning people to the point of scariness). Their specific shared pain is the betrayal of their ideal to use the flame alchemy to help the country, a betrayal that wounds them both in different ways. But you're right, they do understand each other very very well. What I disagree with is that it's impossible for them to be platonic. In regards to chapter 95, I fail to see how threatening to shoot someone who is about to betray you ''again'' and then saying you're going to destroy yourself for good because of the madness you unleashed is saying 'I can't live without you' and is supposed to be ''romantic''. Killing yourself because your love is dead (''because you killed them'') is disturbing and messed-up, so I really don't understand why Royai fans used that very dark and disturbing exchange as 'proof' that their pairing is canon.
*** I disagree. 1) You say it was a damning act, and in part it was, but what all that burning was about was for Riza to, emotionally and physically, be free from her father's bonds and for Roy to somehow make up his betrayal of her trust to her. That's how Arakawa portrayed it. I really doubt anything other than Roy burning her could have been done, but if you think of something let me know. But my point in that is- that is how Arakawa planned it and wanted it. You need to keep in mind that FMA's characters aren't people, they're just ink and paper of a writer's imagination. 2) I agree with you on the point that others know Roy's pain of ''Ishval'' but again I have to disagree, since what I'm referring to is the number of people killed. For a poor example- the atom bomb. Roy's the bomb, Riza's the scientist. You can't tell me that just because the inventors of the atom bomb weren't out killing Hiroshima's residents they didn't feel a horrible guilt engulfing them. I mean it to this affect. It's the guilt that's being shared there- I don't really understand what you mean by betrayal. How was there a betrayal there? Roy didn't willingly commit genocide. Riza knew that. There could be form of diluted betrayal there, but they obviously still trust each other with their backs; if there was really a sense of betrayal, there'd need to be hatred there, or at least dislike, but there isn't. For me, that's the whole point about Mustang and Hawkeye's relationship- logically speaking, if as you said, it was betrayal that kept those two binded bound to each other, there should be hate, dislike, weariness, but in the series they've both shown an immense attachment to each other. Riza cries and gives up when she thinks Roy is dead. Roy panicks panics when he thinks Riza's in danger. Roy gave up on dying when Riza would die too. And, I must point out that in ch. 101, until Riza gave Roy that signal about the chimeras being above ''he still could not make a choice between saving her or committing human transmutation''. 3) You see, this is my point when I say it's not platonic: their relationship is built on the angst they've caused each other, however they trust each other with their lives and care about each other's safety. In ch. 95, Roy was the one being just as 'damning' as you portrayed Hawkeye in the burning-the-tattoo scene, if not more. ''He was telling Riza to kill him''. He'd seen Riza cry when she'd thought he was dead, he'd even commeneted commented on it a scant chapter or so before, but nonetheless he was so overwhelmed with hatred that he didn't care if he caused her pain (thus his apology and distraught look later on, when he told her to lower her gun). This just proves that ''yes'', '''they are two screwed up people'''. I never denied this. But I don't believe it's platonic at all, simply because Roy stopped his MoralEventHorizon when he knew that he would be damning Riza as well as himself. He cared about her more than himself- and, now that we come to it, since he was planning on dying and throwing all his plans down the drain, he cares about Riza more than he cares about his goal, but my main point is that he cares about'' '''her''' more than ending his pain and just dying''- and isn't caring about someone more than yourself the basics of love? 3.5) Riza saying she'd kill herself is simply because if Roy had forced her to shoot him like she'd promised, she would be too overcome with the pain of it all to carry on; because even if it had been Scar to pull the trigger and not Hawkeye, she would still have been the one who had exposed him to Flame Alchemy and made him capable of Ishval. She was still the one who made Roy into a murderer, and made him capable of CrossingTheLine.crossing the line. The guilt of making her most important person die would have been too much for her-- and yes, there'd be no other option and she ''would'' have to pull the trigger, because in the pair's Ishval-influenced-mindset she ''owed'' him to keep her promise, just like he had owed her to burn her back; it's the guilt behind it all that's making them hurt each other in the end, though it's technically for their own good; Riza didn't want to be bound to her father's alchemy, and Roy didn't want to turn into 'an animal in human skin', no matter how painful and fatal the solutions may have been. Another reason for Riza's possible suicide: Roy and Riza living and working together to change the country is their ''redemption'' for Ishval- it's the only way they can look themselves in the mirror. I think that in ch. 95 all that pain of Ishval and Hughes' death just came rushing to the surface, and the self-loathing within the pair of them manifested into a desire to just die and be done with it. But the reason that tipped the scales, the reason that Roy didn't let Riza shoot him, was not his goal at the end. At the end it was an unwillingness to cause Riza pain again. Despite Scar and Ed's words' affecting him, up until Riza told him she'd die too, Roy was willing to die. - and now I've rambled on again, so I don't really know if you got my point, but here it is: ''Roy and Riza care about each other more than themselves''. I'm not saying it's nice, I'm not even saying it's healthy- however, I don't believe that you can care that much about a person on a platonic level. Not to mention Arakawa herself has dropped [[ShipTease little hints]] various times over the series: when Grumman asked Roy to marry his granddaughter, his reponse was "You're thinking to far ''ahead''" exactly, as well as Roy going into a rage over Barry the Chopper's groping, him calling her "RIZA!" when he was a student, Mustang labelling Riza as his Queen, Chris knowing 'Elizabeth', the gold-tooth scientist calling Hawkeye Roy's 'precious woman' (yes, literally, I read RAWS), Bradley calling her his 'important person', Ed telling Roy not to worry Hawkeye..etc. Taking all this evidence into account, I cannot help but conclude that there is definitely something there. It's not nice, not pretty, as I mentioned before not even healthy because of Ishval's influence, but to call the relations between Hawkeye and Mustang as platonic doesn't do justice to the emotion there.''' 'Love' doesn't have to have to be ''romance'' or nice, or even happy to be ''there''.''' Of course, I'm not saying I can convince you otherwise, I'm just giving my side of the argument. In conclusion, my personal opinion is that Hawkeye and Mustang are willing to spend their lives together. They don't need marriage, and aren't capable of it either (as I said, the only way/time I can see it happening is when they're really old). But they do think of each other as their most important person, and they do put each other, admittance or not, above everyone/everything else. That's all I'm trying to say.



* Minor correction: if he was related to Miles, he'd have to be either Miles's grandfather or one of his grandfather's relatives. I ''think'' Miles commented that his father was of a non-Ishvalan ethnicity, which would imply that the Ishval blood cam from his mother's side. Other than that, though, this ''would'' make for a nice dash of added drama.

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* Minor correction: if he was related to Miles, he'd have to be either Miles's grandfather or one of his grandfather's relatives. I ''think'' Miles commented that his father was of a non-Ishvalan ethnicity, which would imply that the Ishval blood cam came from his mother's side. Other than that, though, this ''would'' make for a nice dash of added drama.




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* Combined with a [=WMG=] above about them both possibly being (at least part) Xingese, I like to think that they share a relative via that side of their families.
24th Mar '18 7:20:55 PM OrangenChan
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** Didn't [[spoiler:Ed release most, if not all, of Pride's souls when he defeated him]], though? If so, then [[spoiler:he might age a tad slower than normal, but he probably still ''could''.]]



** Holy crap, that ''would'' be uncomfortable! Imagine Ed being all "Stop admiring me! I kinda killed you / destroyed your memories once... (Also you used to be a bloodthirsty monster which is creepy.)" in his head all the time.

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** Holy crap, that ''would'' be uncomfortable! Imagine Ed being all "Stop [[spoiler:"Stop admiring me! I kinda killed you / destroyed your memories once... (Also you used to be a bloodthirsty monster which is creepy.)" )"]] in his head all the time.




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* Minor correction: if he was related to Miles, he'd have to be either Miles's grandfather or one of his grandfather's relatives. I ''think'' Miles commented that his father was of a non-Ishvalan ethnicity, which would imply that the Ishval blood cam from his mother's side. Other than that, though, this ''would'' make for a nice dash of added drama.



** Better yet: Kimblee will take a page from [[TricksterMentor Truth]]'s book and instead of being the kid's enemy, will become a BreakingSpeech style SpiritAdvisor to Selim once the latter grows up. Anyone could see Kimblee doing that; it fits his weird sense of humour. Antagonizing and mocking him one moment, and saying something that turns out to be helpful the next.

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** * Better yet: Kimblee will take a page from [[TricksterMentor Truth]]'s book and instead of being the kid's enemy, will become a BreakingSpeech style SpiritAdvisor to Selim once the latter grows up. Anyone could see Kimblee doing that; it fits his weird sense of humour. Antagonizing and mocking him one moment, and saying something that turns out to be helpful the next.
6th Mar '18 9:25:36 PM nombretomado
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Not too off-the-wall, especially as {{WMG}}s go. Courtesy of Website/LiveJournal's moriapolonius, "[[http://community.livejournal.com/fanficrants/9237643.html?thread=284126347#t284126347 I always thought that Roy and Izumi were drawn as if they had Xingian blood. Black hair, narrow uptilted eyes, smaller size.]]" Also note their black irises. Consult ThisWiki's [[Characters/FullmetalAlchemist FMA character sheet]] for reference images.

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Not too off-the-wall, especially as {{WMG}}s go. Courtesy of Website/LiveJournal's moriapolonius, "[[http://community.livejournal.com/fanficrants/9237643.html?thread=284126347#t284126347 I always thought that Roy and Izumi were drawn as if they had Xingian blood. Black hair, narrow uptilted eyes, smaller size.]]" Also note their black irises. Consult ThisWiki's Wiki/ThisVeryWiki's [[Characters/FullmetalAlchemist FMA character sheet]] for reference images.
6th Mar '18 7:18:15 AM OrangenChan
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* how did I not spot that?

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* how How did I not spot that?



** Sadly {{Jossed}}, but there ''are'' a couple of scenes late in the manga that could be interpreted as LesYay if you squint. So, they could still be used as fuel for this guess.



* [[IncrediblyLamePun Cindy McKain]].
** Please explain this one.
* Plus the OP said "bi" not "lesbian". Maybe she liked Kain (a boy) and then got interested in Winry (a girl)...

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* ** [[IncrediblyLamePun Cindy McKain]].
** *** Please explain this one.
* ** Plus the OP said "bi" not "lesbian". Maybe she liked Kain (a boy) and then got interested in Winry (a girl)...
24th Feb '18 11:16:36 PM troodos
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* An omake even shows reborn!Selim threatening to tell Mrs Bradley that Grumman was the one who [[spoiler: Blew up King Bradley's train]]

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* An omake even shows reborn!Selim threatening to tell Mrs Bradley that Grumman was the one who [[spoiler: Blew up King Bradley's train]]train]]
[[WMG: Father failed because of a Homunculus he ''didn't'' create]]
The Seven Deadly Sins were not originally seven: there were two more, Acedia and Vainglory, which ended up being folded into Sloth and Pride. However, as we see, Father ''didn't'' get rid of his vanity when he expelled Pride. As the Truth says, his true sin was his boastfulness, a part of Vainglory. If he had expelled this sin, instead of the other seven, he might have realized the error of his ways.
24th Feb '18 12:35:34 AM OrangenChan
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* I actually use this in my [[fanon]] as almost-cannon. It makes perfect sense: Not only does he die by coughing up blood for some mysterious reason (Izumi anyone?), and his a master alchemist, he also claims that alchemists are beings that must "search for the Truth for as long as they live, (...) which is why I am a man who died long ago." Sounds like he's implying that he's seen the Truth to me. Not to mention that Riza says that her mother died years before her father... It's all too convienient to be a coincidence.

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* I actually use this in my [[fanon]] {{fanon}} as almost-cannon. It makes perfect sense: Not only does he die by coughing up blood for some mysterious reason (Izumi anyone?), and his a master alchemist, he also claims that alchemists are beings that must "search for the Truth for as long as they live, (...) which is why I am a man who died long ago." Sounds like he's implying that he's seen the Truth to me. Not to mention that Riza says that her mother died years before her father... It's all too convienient to be a coincidence.



No particular reason, just RuleofDrama mostly.

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No particular reason, just RuleofDrama RuleOfDrama mostly.



* I think Father was assexual from the beginning. Even if he is human like in some aspects of his personality, I don't think a shadow blob thing would need to have any sort of sexual attraction.

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* I think Father was assexual asexual from the beginning. Even if he is human like in some aspects of his personality, I don't think a shadow blob thing would need to have any sort of sexual attraction.



** Chastity-His dedication to Trisha despite immortality and presumably staying chaste for most of his immortal life(given [[WhoWantsToLiveForever the immortality]], sleeping around [[ImmortalityProcreationClause would cause problems.]]

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** Chastity-His dedication to Trisha despite immortality and presumably staying chaste for most of his immortal life(given [[WhoWantsToLiveForever the immortality]], sleeping around [[ImmortalityProcreationClause [[ImmortalProcreationClause would cause problems.]]



* FridgeHorror and also FridgeBrilliance here. What if they are working together specifically to find someone like Ed, and their goal is to ADVANCE humanity positively? (For the purposes of say, perhaps, creating more ample destruction later. Like say, Edward accidentally discovering Alchemic Nuclear Reaction and then they bring in THEIR chosen avatar to complete the deal. And then [[TakenToEleven take the reaction up to eleven]] by adding a Philosopher's Stone to the mix. Or MULTIPLE stones. By having sided with Ed over Father, they have someone who will give them what they need, but also not become competition (as Father may have with his pseudo-godhood). In other words, they want someone untainted by the sins Father represents so they won't go all [[AxCrazy cackling evilly mad]] once they discover ever more destructive alchemic techniques. NiceJobBreakingItHero Izumi couldn't work because her motherly instinct would have taken over at some point and said NO, THIS IS WRONG, but Ed is just way too much Classic Pulp Mad Scientist even in the midst of just how wrong alchemy can get, even with his own brother as example! (note how he fights homunculus, basically.)

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* FridgeHorror and also FridgeBrilliance here. What if they are working together specifically to find someone like Ed, and their goal is to ADVANCE humanity positively? (For the purposes of say, perhaps, creating more ample destruction later. Like say, Edward accidentally discovering Alchemic Nuclear Reaction and then they bring in THEIR chosen avatar to complete the deal. And then [[TakenToEleven [[UpToEleven take the reaction up to eleven]] by adding a Philosopher's Stone to the mix. Or MULTIPLE stones. By having sided with Ed over Father, they have someone who will give them what they need, but also not become competition (as Father may have with his pseudo-godhood). In other words, they want someone untainted by the sins Father represents so they won't go all [[AxCrazy cackling evilly mad]] once they discover ever more destructive alchemic techniques. NiceJobBreakingItHero Izumi couldn't work because her motherly instinct would have taken over at some point and said NO, THIS IS WRONG, but Ed is just way too much Classic Pulp Mad Scientist even in the midst of just how wrong alchemy can get, even with his own brother as example! (note how he fights homunculus, basically.)
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