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25th Oct '16 4:14:17 PM dlchen145
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Think about it; Bradley's spent the entire series saying flat out that the only person he loves is his wife. He's also been the only homunculus to come close to showing doubts about the plan, even if it's only in a twitch of his eye at various points. The way I see it is, Bradley doesn't like the plan, but is far too programmed by Father to try and avert it or do anything but help it to it's conclusion, which of course entails the death of everyone in Amestris, including Mrs. Bradley. So what does he do? He helps the plan through to the end, and then decides it's time to die. Being a BloodKnight though (and the living incarnation of Wrath) he can't simply off himself, so instead he throws himself into one last battle against Scar, one of the most BadAss people in series, and one of the few with a legitimate chance of killing him. The more I think about it, the more it seems to me that this must play at least some part in Bradley's motivation, even if only at the subconcious level. Humanises him a bit too.

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Think about it; Bradley's spent the entire series saying flat out that the only person he loves is his wife. He's also been the only homunculus to come close to showing doubts about the plan, even if it's only in a twitch of his eye at various points. The way I see it is, Bradley doesn't like the plan, but is far too programmed by Father to try and avert it or do anything but help it to it's conclusion, which of course entails the death of everyone in Amestris, including Mrs. Bradley. So what does he do? He helps the plan through to the end, and then decides it's time to die. Being a BloodKnight though (and the living incarnation of Wrath) he can't simply off himself, so instead he throws himself into one last battle against Scar, one of the most BadAss badass people in series, and one of the few with a legitimate chance of killing him. The more I think about it, the more it seems to me that this must play at least some part in Bradley's motivation, even if only at the subconcious level. Humanises him a bit too.



While RuleOfCool also applies, it's very improbable that someone who in military for many years in his life never using gun, But if you watches Maes Hughes, in every scene where he's fighting, he consistently using ''knives''. He spat on Envy by using a ''knife''. In Ishbal, where everyone using ''rifles'' he still brings them and never pick a rifle, or a ''handgun'', for that matter, [[{{Badass}} and still score impressive kills with them.]] It's very possible that he did pick guns at the beginning or the training, but for some reason or another, find knives to be more fit with him. Some possible reason:

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While RuleOfCool also applies, it's very improbable that someone who in military for many years in his life never using gun, But if you watches Maes Hughes, in every scene where he's fighting, he consistently using ''knives''. He spat on Envy by using a ''knife''. In Ishbal, where everyone using ''rifles'' he still brings them and never pick a rifle, or a ''handgun'', for that matter, [[{{Badass}} and still score impressive kills with them.]] them. It's very possible that he did pick guns at the beginning or the training, but for some reason or another, find knives to be more fit with him. Some possible reason:
24th Aug '16 8:12:09 AM Willbyr
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[[WMG: Ling Yao and Lan Fan are expies of Lau and Ran Mao from BlackButler]]

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[[WMG: Ling Yao and Lan Fan are expies of Lau and Ran Mao from BlackButler]]Manga/BlackButler]]
20th Aug '16 10:04:29 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: The ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' Universe is really an alternate future of the {{Dragonlance}} Universe.]]
Okay, so let's say that the FMA universe is really an alternate timeline that split off from the {{Dragonlance}} universe during the early Fifth Age. The continent that Amestris is on is simply one of the other continents on Krynn, and the lack of races other than Humans can be explained by saying that some event caused them all to flee through planar portals long ago, OR there have only ever been Humans on the continent Amestris is on and since there never has been much contact between the continents in {{Dragonlance}} that there are in fact races like Elves, Dwarves, and Gnomes on the other continents. Now, the FMA universe is an alternate timeline from the early Fifth Age because there is only one moon, not three, and there are no gods around. Alchemy is just another form of Primal Sorcery and Mysticism. The Truth is an entity who managed to hijack the Gate of Souls (Krynn has a Gate of Souls that all souls pass though after they die, where they go not even the gods know) and use it for its own purposes.

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[[WMG: The ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' Universe is really an alternate future of the {{Dragonlance}} Literature/{{Dragonlance}} Universe.]]
Okay, so let's say that the FMA universe is really an alternate timeline that split off from the {{Dragonlance}} Dragonlance universe during the early Fifth Age. The continent that Amestris is on is simply one of the other continents on Krynn, and the lack of races other than Humans can be explained by saying that some event caused them all to flee through planar portals long ago, OR there have only ever been Humans on the continent Amestris is on and since there never has been much contact between the continents in {{Dragonlance}} Dragonlance that there are in fact races like Elves, Dwarves, and Gnomes on the other continents. Now, the FMA universe is an alternate timeline from the early Fifth Age because there is only one moon, not three, and there are no gods around. Alchemy is just another form of Primal Sorcery and Mysticism. The Truth is an entity who managed to hijack the Gate of Souls (Krynn has a Gate of Souls that all souls pass though after they die, where they go not even the gods know) and use it for its own purposes.
30th Jul '16 11:51:25 AM nombretomado
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* You just give DanBrown something to write.

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* You just give DanBrown Creator/DanBrown something to write.
20th Jul '16 1:18:06 AM Allie_Montgomery
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In the alternate universe of FMA, Amestris is the geographic equivalency of Afghanistan. Cold and powerful Drachma to the north is Russia, Xing is clearly Chinese and the East Desert separating it from Amestris is the Gobi Desert. Creta is divided into many tribal areas, not unlike northern Pakistan and while it is not currently the case, in ancient times India was a major maritime trade hub due to its favorable geography, not unlike Aerugo. The recently conquered and largely pacifist Ishvalla may be either Tibet or Nepal. Prior to wars with British India and Czarist Russia during the Victorian era, Afghanistan was also a regional military power like Amestris.

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In the alternate universe of FMA, Amestris is the geographic equivalency of Afghanistan. Cold and powerful Drachma to the north is Russia, Xing is clearly Chinese and the East Desert separating it from Amestris is the Gobi Desert. Creta is divided into many tribal areas, not unlike northern Pakistan and while it is not currently the case, in ancient times India was a major maritime trade hub due to its favorable geography, not unlike Aerugo. The recently conquered and largely pacifist Ishvalla may be either Tibet or Nepal. Prior to wars with British India and Czarist Russia during the Victorian era, Afghanistan was also a regional military power like Amestris.Amestris.
[[WMG: Reborn!Selim did not [[spoiler: lose his memories]] ]]
He's just biding his time. After all, he's had centuries of experience in playing a helpless child. The injured bird he asked to 'fix' was probably just him trying to turn up the cute to deflect suspicion.
* When [[spoiler: Envy]] was reduced to their original form, they didn't forget anything, so it's likely that Pride didn't either.
* An omake even shows reborn!Selim threatening to tell Mrs Bradley that Grumman was the one who [[spoiler: Blew up King Bradley's train]]
5th May '16 2:34:19 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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[[WMG: Philosopher's Stones are based on [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Power]]]]

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[[WMG: Philosopher's Stones are based on [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Power]]]]
16th Apr '16 4:56:53 PM beatpole
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Father suceeded in his plan and left Ed just as he left Hoenheim ages ago. Ed's "triumph" is just a HopeSpot. In reality, there is no Reverse Transmutation Circle or it otherwise fails, the victims of Father's Transmutation Circle are all DEAD. Father is now and always God and Ed shoulders the same burden of survivor's guilt that his father bore long ago, wandering the wasteland that used to be Amestris . . . all alone.

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Father suceeded in his plan and left Ed just as he left Hoenheim ages ago. Ed's "triumph" is just a HopeSpot. In reality, there is no Reverse Transmutation Circle or it otherwise fails, the victims of Father's Transmutation Circle are all DEAD. Father is now and always God and Ed shoulders the same burden of survivor's guilt that his father bore long ago, wandering the wasteland that used to be Amestris . . . all alone.alone.
[[WMG: Amestris is Afghanistan]]
In the alternate universe of FMA, Amestris is the geographic equivalency of Afghanistan. Cold and powerful Drachma to the north is Russia, Xing is clearly Chinese and the East Desert separating it from Amestris is the Gobi Desert. Creta is divided into many tribal areas, not unlike northern Pakistan and while it is not currently the case, in ancient times India was a major maritime trade hub due to its favorable geography, not unlike Aerugo. The recently conquered and largely pacifist Ishvalla may be either Tibet or Nepal. Prior to wars with British India and Czarist Russia during the Victorian era, Afghanistan was also a regional military power like Amestris.
3rd Apr '16 6:48:12 AM R.G.
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Father suceeded in his plan and left Ed just as he left Hoenheim ages ago. Ed's "triumph" is just a HopeSpot.

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Father suceeded in his plan and left Ed just as he left Hoenheim ages ago. Ed's "triumph" is just a HopeSpot. In reality, there is no Reverse Transmutation Circle or it otherwise fails, the victims of Father's Transmutation Circle are all DEAD. Father is now and always God and Ed shoulders the same burden of survivor's guilt that his father bore long ago, wandering the wasteland that used to be Amestris . . . all alone.
3rd Apr '16 6:35:12 AM R.G.
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*** It seems more likely that [[spoiler: considering that the gate takes what you value most]] Freeman would have lost his giant sexy brain, or his clobberin' arm. UNLESS. He had... the best voice. [[MusicToInvadePolandTo The best voice.]]
*** Because he is Freeman when he lost his sexy voice they gave it to some other Freeman who the Truth thought needed a sexy voice. Morgan Freeman.

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*** **** It seems more likely that [[spoiler: considering that the gate takes what you value most]] Freeman would have lost his giant sexy brain, or his clobberin' arm. UNLESS. He had... the best voice. [[MusicToInvadePolandTo The best voice.]]
*** ***** Because he is Freeman when he lost his sexy voice they gave it to some other Freeman who the Truth thought needed a sexy voice. Morgan Freeman.



*** Even then, with human transmutation, doesn't the alchemist need to find a way to combine all the different materials cohesively? In the case of an embryo or fetus, all the chemicals and pieces are there, so wouldn't it just be a simple matter of rearranging the DNA?

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*** **** Even then, with human transmutation, doesn't the alchemist need to find a way to combine all the different materials cohesively? In the case of an embryo or fetus, all the chemicals and pieces are there, so wouldn't it just be a simple matter of rearranging the DNA?



*** PhilosophersStone. ''[[Fridge/FullmetalAlchemist The Devil's Research.]]'' Case. Point.

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*** **** PhilosophersStone. ''[[Fridge/FullmetalAlchemist The Devil's Research.]]'' Case. Point.



*** [[spoiler: And AND Al wasn't actually dead. He was taken. There's a significant difference; his body and soul were intact and together, they were just at his Gateway instead of in the world. It's the same reason Ed was able to get his soul out of the Gate as far back as the beginning of the story; because Al was not dead, just gone.]]

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*** **** [[spoiler: And AND Al wasn't actually dead. He was taken. There's a significant difference; his body and soul were intact and together, they were just at his Gateway instead of in the world. It's the same reason Ed was able to get his soul out of the Gate as far back as the beginning of the story; because Al was not dead, just gone.]]



* Izumi's Truth was a female silhouette.

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* * Izumi's Truth was a female silhouette.



*** Indeed, Olivia never said that she wasn't married, though other characters think so, such as her own brother. I can't remember if this scene was in the manga, but it certainly was in the anime: Alex said something along the lines of, "That's why you're not married!" But I totally love this theory; it's what converted me to shipping Miles/Olivia. And, because Olivia appears to be an ice queen (for practical reasons, as well as for the sake of her image, I guess), it would make sense for her to keep her marriage a secret (if she were actually married). Oh, and by the way, Olivia didn't say that she was too old to have kids, just that most other women her age would usually have a kid or two by now.

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*** **** Indeed, Olivia never said that she wasn't married, though other characters think so, such as her own brother. I can't remember if this scene was in the manga, but it certainly was in the anime: Alex said something along the lines of, "That's why you're not married!" But I totally love this theory; it's what converted me to shipping Miles/Olivia. And, because Olivia appears to be an ice queen (for practical reasons, as well as for the sake of her image, I guess), it would make sense for her to keep her marriage a secret (if she were actually married). Oh, and by the way, Olivia didn't say that she was too old to have kids, just that most other women her age would usually have a kid or two by now.



*** I have to agree with the above. Yes, reconstructing a human body, even to look like Trisha Elric, as Ed and Al tried, is possible with Alchemy, and fairly easily at that; what couldn't be reconstructed was the memories, thoughts and feelings of Trisha Elric. The best they could manage would be to place every second of her life story in the brain of the homunculus. Even then, it wouldn't be real.

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*** **** I have to agree with the above. Yes, reconstructing a human body, even to look like Trisha Elric, as Ed and Al tried, is possible with Alchemy, and fairly easily at that; what couldn't be reconstructed was the memories, thoughts and feelings of Trisha Elric. The best they could manage would be to place every second of her life story in the brain of the homunculus. Even then, it wouldn't be real.



*** Also, Riza is a Hungarian version of Thereza.

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*** **** Also, Riza is a Hungarian version of Thereza.



Father suceeded in his plan and left Ed just as he left Hoenheim ages ago. Ed's triumph is just a HopeSpot.

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Father suceeded in his plan and left Ed just as he left Hoenheim ages ago. Ed's triumph "triumph" is just a HopeSpot.
3rd Apr '16 6:34:12 AM R.G.
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Now, the first vice he let go of was Pride, which might actually have been the reason he became (even more) insane in the first place. If we assume that he lost his ability to learn from his vices by seperating them from himself, he had been fighting a battle he already lost from the very beginning. It all boils down to the way you interpret "pride": On one hand, it can mean arrogance, which Pride (and Father) display in spades. But on the other hand, it might run closer along the lines of "being proud of something": Pride/Father just wanted people to be proud of him, to admire him and to look up to him, but he also wanted to be able to be proud of himself. Seeing this is the lesson Father could have learned if he had embraced his pride instead of getting rid of it, which would have meant he would never have done any of the horrible things that happend after Xerxes. Probably this is even the reason why he got rid of his pride first: After thinking about the way humans (collectively) look up to/are proud of people who do good things while looking down on those who kill and do as they please without any regard for the well-being of others, he maybe just couldn't stand that killing all these people in Xerxes actually put him into a position in which most people would look down on him (if he was part of their society, that is - but that's what he ultimately wants.) So in the end, his (and everyone else's) problems started because he was unable to face actually learning from his flaws and mistakes, and in the end he pays the price - even though he could have really become a decent person if he had chosen to act in a way that would allow himself and others to be proud of/admire his actions. It even ties in with the last confrontation Pride has with Kimblee: When he tries to use Ed's body as a container, Kimblee tells him that he looks down on Pride for "giving up his pride as a Humunculus". Pride isn't proud of being a Homunculus/proud of himself, which is why he doesn't see any problem with using Ed's body. He basically has the same problem as Envy, violent overcompensation for actually wanting to live as a human. And on a positive note, Pride is the only Homunculus who doesn't die - and the only one who can really live as a human. So if Father had rather used his pride as a motivation to become a decent person than to act arrogant, he could have reached what he really longed for all this time: A "normal" life, friends and a family. (Sure, he still would've had to deal with the remose of what happened in Xerxes AND he would have lived for a really long time, but the same is true for Hohenheim and even he had a pretty good run and was able to die in peace).

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Now, the first vice he let go of was Pride, which might actually have been the reason he became (even more) insane in the first place. If we assume that he lost his ability to learn from his vices by seperating them from himself, he had been fighting a battle he already lost from the very beginning. It all boils down to the way you interpret "pride": On one hand, it can mean arrogance, which Pride (and Father) display in spades. But on the other hand, it might run closer along the lines of "being proud of something": Pride/Father just wanted people to be proud of him, to admire him and to look up to him, but he also wanted to be able to be proud of himself. Seeing this is the lesson Father could have learned if he had embraced his pride instead of getting rid of it, which would have meant he would never have done any of the horrible things that happend after Xerxes. Probably this is even the reason why he got rid of his pride first: After thinking about the way humans (collectively) look up to/are proud of people who do good things while looking down on those who kill and do as they please without any regard for the well-being of others, he maybe just couldn't stand that killing all these people in Xerxes actually put him into a position in which most people would look down on him (if he was part of their society, that is - but that's what he ultimately wants.) So in the end, his (and everyone else's) problems started because he was unable to face actually learning from his flaws and mistakes, and in the end he pays the price - even though he could have really become a decent person if he had chosen to act in a way that would allow himself and others to be proud of/admire his actions. It even ties in with the last confrontation Pride has with Kimblee: When he tries to use Ed's body as a container, Kimblee tells him that he looks down on Pride for "giving up his pride as a Humunculus". Pride isn't proud of being a Homunculus/proud of himself, which is why he doesn't see any problem with using Ed's body. He basically has the same problem as Envy, violent overcompensation for actually wanting to live as a human. And on a positive note, Pride is the only Homunculus who doesn't die - and the only one who can really live as a human. So if Father had rather used his pride as a motivation to become a decent person than to act arrogant, he could have reached what he really longed for all this time: A "normal" life, friends and a family. (Sure, he still would've had to deal with the remose of what happened in Xerxes AND he would have lived for a really long time, but the same is true for Hohenheim and even he had a pretty good run and was able to die in peace).peace).
[[WMG: Edward Elric is the Last Survivor of Amestris.]]
Father suceeded in his plan and left Ed just as he left Hoenheim ages ago. Ed's triumph is just a HopeSpot.
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