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24th Mar '16 2:12:24 PM DrakeClawfang
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[[WMG: The Memento Ring is Shadow's and Relm's mother's wedding rings]]
The love of a deceased loved one protects them, and there's only two of them. Relm has one, passed down from her mother, and Shadow has the other, which he leaves at the counter in Strago's house after rescuing the party from the burning mansion.

The third Memento Ring is stolen from Wrexsoul, in which case it could conceivably be taken to either belong to Cyan or his wife, given where Wrexsoul appears. Though if so, this does beg the question of why Cyan can't equip the Memento Ring.
9th Feb '16 7:09:29 AM Berentxo
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* Which is not unlikely if Gilgamesh has to abide the current universe's laws, considering 1), how similar the FFVI Esper's creation is to how [[spoiler:l'Cie are made in the [[Franchise/FabulaNovaCrystallisFinalFantasy Fabula Nova Crystallis]] games, which could mean the Warring Triad are not so so much gods but the FFVI equivalent of fal'Cie, pretending to be actual gods for self-aggrandising purposes, 2) Type-0 gives us a formerly human Gilgamesh turned l'Cie, and 3) the possibility that with slightly tweaked rules l'Cie become Espers/Eidolons themselves in this world instead of being granted one as a separate entity and Crystal Stasis being somewhat different as well.]]

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* Which is not unlikely if Gilgamesh has to abide the current universe's laws, considering 1), how similar the FFVI Esper's creation is to how [[spoiler:l'Cie l'Cie are made in the [[Franchise/FabulaNovaCrystallisFinalFantasy Fabula Nova Crystallis]] games, which could mean meaning the Warring Triad are not so so much gods but the FFVI equivalent of fal'Cie, pretending to be actual gods for self-aggrandising unknown purposes, 2) [[spoiler:2) Type-0 gives us a formerly human Gilgamesh turned l'Cie, and 3) the possibility that with slightly tweaked rules l'Cie become Espers/Eidolons themselves in this world instead of being granted one as a separate entity and Crystal Stasis being somewhat different as well.]]
9th Feb '16 7:06:53 AM Berentxo
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* Which is not unlikely if Gilgamesh has to abide the current universe's laws, considering 1), how similar the FFVI Esper's creation is to how [[spoiler:l'Cie are made in the [[Franchise/FabulaNovaCrystallisFinalFantasy Fabula Nova Crystallis]] games, which could mean the Warring Triad are not so so much gods but the FFVI equivalent of fal'Cie, pretending to be actual gods for self-aggrandising purposes, 2) Type-0 gives us a formerly human Gilgamesh turned l'Cie, and 3) the possibility that with slightly tweaked rules fal'Cie become Espers/Eidolons themselves in this world instead of being granted one as a separate entity and Crystal Stasis being somewhat different as well.]]

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* Which is not unlikely if Gilgamesh has to abide the current universe's laws, considering 1), how similar the FFVI Esper's creation is to how [[spoiler:l'Cie are made in the [[Franchise/FabulaNovaCrystallisFinalFantasy Fabula Nova Crystallis]] games, which could mean the Warring Triad are not so so much gods but the FFVI equivalent of fal'Cie, pretending to be actual gods for self-aggrandising purposes, 2) Type-0 gives us a formerly human Gilgamesh turned l'Cie, and 3) the possibility that with slightly tweaked rules fal'Cie l'Cie become Espers/Eidolons themselves in this world instead of being granted one as a separate entity and Crystal Stasis being somewhat different as well.]]
9th Feb '16 7:05:16 AM Berentxo
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* Which is not unlikely if Gilgamesh has to abide the current universe's laws, considering 1), how similar the FFVI Esper's creation is to how [[spoiler:l'Cie are made in [[Franchise/FabulaNovaCrystallisFinalFantasy]], which could mean the Warring Triad are not so so much gods but the FFVI equivalent of fal'Cie, pretending to be actual gods for self-aggrandising purposes, 2) Type-0 gives us a formerly human Gilgamesh turned l'Cie, and 3) the possibility that with slightly tweaked rules fal'Cie become Espers/Eidolons themselves in this world instead of being granted one as a separate entity and Crystal Stasis being somewhat different as well.]]

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* Which is not unlikely if Gilgamesh has to abide the current universe's laws, considering 1), how similar the FFVI Esper's creation is to how [[spoiler:l'Cie are made in [[Franchise/FabulaNovaCrystallisFinalFantasy]], the [[Franchise/FabulaNovaCrystallisFinalFantasy Fabula Nova Crystallis]] games, which could mean the Warring Triad are not so so much gods but the FFVI equivalent of fal'Cie, pretending to be actual gods for self-aggrandising purposes, 2) Type-0 gives us a formerly human Gilgamesh turned l'Cie, and 3) the possibility that with slightly tweaked rules fal'Cie become Espers/Eidolons themselves in this world instead of being granted one as a separate entity and Crystal Stasis being somewhat different as well.]]
9th Feb '16 7:03:17 AM Berentxo
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*Which is not unlikely if Gilgamesh has to abide the current universe's laws, considering 1), how similar the FFVI Esper's creation is to how [[spoiler:l'Cie are made in [[Franchise/FabulaNovaCrystallisFinalFantasy]], which could mean the Warring Triad are not so so much gods but the FFVI equivalent of fal'Cie, pretending to be actual gods for self-aggrandising purposes, 2) Type-0 gives us a formerly human Gilgamesh turned l'Cie, and 3) the possibility that with slightly tweaked rules fal'Cie become Espers/Eidolons themselves in this world instead of being granted one as a separate entity and Crystal Stasis being somewhat different as well.]]
8th Feb '16 12:52:12 AM dvorak
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[[WMG: The background music in the factory]]
*...Is actually the background ''noise''. Girders being slammed and bolted into position, and beeping computers.
31st Jan '16 5:04:45 PM DrakeClawfang
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Think about it, we get no backstory for Banon, none at all. And he and Duncan share the same sprite, Duncan just has a different color palette. Sure, you could chalk it up to being lazy, but remember that when Edgar was using the alias Gerad, he used the same sprite as normal with a different color palette. So why not pull the same trick with Duncan and Banon, use the same sprite but different palettes to hint they're the same guy? Furthermore, with how many other important characters in the game (Madeline, Lola, Cyan's family, Gungho) use generic sprites, and how many [=NPCs=] of minor importance get unique sprites (Katarin, Arvis, Lone Wolf, Rachel), why would the developers reuse Banon's sprite for Duncan? Why not give him a unique sprite or a generic sprite? No other character reuses a party member's sprite like this. It really only makes sense if one presumes there's something to this.

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Think about it, we get no backstory for Banon, none at all. And he and Duncan share the same sprite, Duncan just has a different color palette. Sure, you could chalk it up to being lazy, but remember that when Edgar was using the alias Gerad, he used the same sprite as normal with a different color palette. So why not pull the same trick with Duncan and Banon, use the same sprite but different palettes to hint they're the same guy? Furthermore, with how many other important characters in the game (Madeline, Lola, Cyan's family, Gungho) use generic sprites, and how many [=NPCs=] of minor importance get unique sprites (Katarin, Arvis, Lone Wolf, Darill, Rachel), why would the developers reuse Banon's sprite for Duncan? Why not give him a unique sprite or a generic sprite? No other character reuses a party member's sprite like this. It really only makes sense if one presumes there's something to this.
31st Jan '16 5:03:51 PM DrakeClawfang
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Think about it, we get no backstory for Banon, none at all. And he and Duncan share the same sprite, Duncan just has a different color palette. Sure, you could chalk it up to being lazy, but remember that when Edgar was using the alias Gerad, he used the same sprite as normal with a different color palette. So why not pull the same trick with Duncan and Banon, use the same sprite but different palettes to hint they're the same guy? Think about it, if they ''were'' the same person, then Duncan would easily be found by the Empire as a famous martial arts master. So he makes up an alias, and whenever the Returners refer to their leader, they use his alias "Banon" to keep his identity secret. When Vargas "killed" Duncan, he took the chance to drop out of sight and devote his full energy to the Returners - remember that the timeframe when Vargas killed Duncan more or less lines up with Locke rescuing Terra, so if we assume he sent word to Banon of this young woman who could use magic, it makes sense Duncan would use the "death" excuse to vanish and take on the Banon persona full-time. This is why Banon vanishes in Vector when the Floating Continent rises, he's going back to hide under the Duncan persona again. This is also why, despite the fact he's supposedly alive the whole time, we never see Duncan in the World of Balance - because we ''do'' see him, as Banon. This would also explain Banon's Pray/Health ability which seems to be magic, Duncan would naturally have the ability to harness the same type of energy that powers Sabin's Blitzes.

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Think about it, we get no backstory for Banon, none at all. And he and Duncan share the same sprite, Duncan just has a different color palette. Sure, you could chalk it up to being lazy, but remember that when Edgar was using the alias Gerad, he used the same sprite as normal with a different color palette. So why not pull the same trick with Duncan and Banon, use the same sprite but different palettes to hint they're the same guy? Think about it, Furthermore, with how many other important characters in the game (Madeline, Lola, Cyan's family, Gungho) use generic sprites, and how many [=NPCs=] of minor importance get unique sprites (Katarin, Arvis, Lone Wolf, Rachel), why would the developers reuse Banon's sprite for Duncan? Why not give him a unique sprite or a generic sprite? No other character reuses a party member's sprite like this. It really only makes sense if one presumes there's something to this.

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they ''were'' the same person, then Duncan would easily be found by the Empire as a famous martial arts master. So he makes up an alias, and whenever the Returners refer to their leader, they use his alias "Banon" to keep his identity secret. When Vargas "killed" Duncan, he took the chance to drop out of sight and devote his full energy to the Returners - remember that the timeframe when Vargas killed Duncan more or less lines up with Locke rescuing Terra, so if we assume he sent word to Banon of this young woman who could use magic, it makes sense Duncan would use the "death" excuse to vanish and take on the Banon persona full-time. This is why Banon vanishes in Vector when the Floating Continent rises, he's going back to hide under the Duncan persona again. This is also why, despite the fact he's supposedly alive the whole time, we never see Duncan in the World of Balance - because we ''do'' see him, as Banon. This would also explain Banon's Pray/Health ability which seems to be magic, magic; Duncan would naturally have the ability to harness the same type of energy that powers Sabin's Blitzes.Blitzes.
6th Jan '16 7:16:56 PM BrendanRizzo
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[[WMG: Shadow is supposed to die on the Floating Continent.]]
When the party reaches the Floating Continent, they are joined by Shadow, but he separates from the group to attempt his would-be CMOA against Kefka. But Kefka immediately destroys the Continent and the rest of the party has to flee. No matter how fast you make it, Shadow does not rejoin you until literally the last second, and so the player has the option of leaving early and stranding him there to die-- which most people probably did on their first time through because they didn't want to risk a game over. In the World of Ruin, you come across either Shadow or Relm knocked unconscious in the Cave in the Veldt, depending on whether or not you waited for Shadow. Regardless of who the party comes across, they say "let's get ''her'' back to Thamasa..." In other words, the developers intended for Shadow to already be dead in the World of Ruin, and this is a hint that he does not survive. ...Yes, I know it's more likely that the translator had to pick one pronoun or another and couldn't alter it depending on the player's choice, but the fact that Woolsey assumed you would be saving Relm and not Shadow has to count for something.

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12th Nov '15 10:22:46 AM storyyeller
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[[WMG: Terra burned down Figaro castle]].
When you last see Terra, sheś angsting because her years in the military have turned her crazy and she doesn't know what the right thing to do is an more. Then the screen fades to black and suddenly Figaro castle is on fire. Coincidence? I think not. It'd take a powerful esper to set a stone castle on fire anyway.
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