History WMG / FinalCrisis

11th Dec '17 12:26:55 AM RJ-19-CLOVIS-93
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:


[[WMG: Mandrakk is the AnthropomorphicPersonification of DarknessInducedAudienceApathy, detailing the story of DC Comics.]]
The story of the Monitors is hinted to be a parallel to the progression of DC Comics. The Overmonitor(the blank canvas) sets out a probe to survey the multiverse("reading" DC Comics), but the conflicts cause it to split into two probes(Anti-Monitor and Monitor), resulting in the Crisis. A race of Monitors finds a corruption that twists their kind, turning their former greatest hero(the Monitor or his reincarnation) into the greatest villain. Grant Morrison opposes the DarkerAndEdgier nature of DC and prefers {{Reconstruction}}. [[ComicBook/TheMultiversity His later multiverse work]] have villains representing the degradation and decay of the industry. Why not with Mandrakk?

Mandrakk represents the growing darker themes resulting in [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy no-one caring about DC Comics anymore]]. Being a vampiric OmnicidalManiac represents the draining of optimism and the idea that the franchise is going to die out if it keeps getting darker. This trope was a major complaint in the last few years before Final Crisis. Darkseid is the initial BigBad because [[DespairEventHorizon he embodies despair and hopelessness]], the very things that are corrupting DC. Superman has always been the poster boy for optimistic heroes, so of course the Cosmic Armor meant to stop Mandrakk is for him, as does Superman play an integral role in Mandrakk's fall. As do many forgotten and discarded characters, [[ItsPersonal who have had enough to hear with]] the literary suffering and "edgy killings" inflicted on them. And why it's implied to be the original Monitor? DC has gotten darker to many because of the Crisis.

[[ComicBook/DarkKnightsMetal The Dark Multiverse]] may be connected, and it's possible Mandrakk as an entity originates from there. After all, the Dark Multiverse is where everything goes wrong and there seems to be no hope, and what were people complaining about? The lack of optimism, hope and fun. Just what Mandrakk represented. Barbatos is his replacement, reincarnation of the same concept or simply a less powerful entity with similar metafictional elements. As for why the Anti-Monitor wasn't used? Final Crisis isn't about rebooting, and that's ultimately what he represents. DarknessInducedAudienceApathy is just something that followed him.
27th Nov '17 8:17:06 PM ROBRAM89
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:


[[WMG: Final Crisis and Seven Soldiers are two pieces at opposite ends of a single massive time loop]]
In Seven Soldiers, the sequence of events that kill Gloriana and stop the Sheeda (and/or Bulleteer herself) are equated metaphorically, and maybe not so metaphorically, with "the spear that was never thrown," a failed attack by ancient superhero Aurakles that set in motion the events that ultimately lead to victory. Final Crisis makes similar use of a metaphorical projectile being cast across time in such a way that seems disastrous at the beginning but eventually puts the pieces in place to kill the villain. Except the "ur-bullet" that kills the New Gods and eventually Darkseid is explicitly moving ''backwards'' through time. So if one missile, metaphorical or literal, is moving across all of history in one direction, and the other is moving backwards, who's to say they aren't one and the same? What if the events of Seven Soldiers themselves cause a sequence of events that begin to loop backward and not only cause Final Crisis, but themselves? This is essentially moot now, since who even knows what ever happened in the DCU anymore, but the building blocks seem like they could have been placed with the intent to show that, eventually, this was all parts of a much greater whole. We might never know.
15th Jan '16 5:58:30 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


The correct one, of course, involves SquirrelGirl, also known as The Anti-Life.

to:

The correct one, of course, involves SquirrelGirl, ComicBook/SquirrelGirl, also known as The Anti-Life.
15th Sep '15 9:01:28 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[WMG:''FinalCrisis'' is the prequel to ''[[ComicBook/{{Legion Of Super-Heroes}} The Great Darkness Saga]]''.]]

to:

[[WMG:''FinalCrisis'' [[WMG:''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'' is the prequel to ''[[ComicBook/{{Legion Of Super-Heroes}} The Great Darkness Saga]]''.]]



[[WMG:''FinalCrisis'' Never Happened.]]
The idea of the event exists, but the story itself went into the Limbo that itself told about in Superman: Beyond. The actual events never happened in universe. The Kicker, the effects made by the event, IE, Batman "Dying," The Flash returning, and the other characters who have been changed in someway, still carry on. [[CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Like a certain other event.....]]

to:

[[WMG:''FinalCrisis'' [[WMG:''ComicBook/FinalCrisis'' Never Happened.]]
The idea of the event exists, but the story itself went into the Limbo that itself told about in Superman: Beyond. The actual events never happened in universe. The Kicker, the effects made by the event, IE, Batman "Dying," The Flash returning, and the other characters who have been changed in someway, still carry on. [[CrisisOnInfiniteEarths [[ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths Like a certain other event.....]]



[[WMG: Not only is Mandrakk the original Monitor from the first CrisisOnInfiniteEarths, he's violently insane due to the creation of the other Monitors]]

to:

[[WMG: Not only is Mandrakk the original Monitor from the first CrisisOnInfiniteEarths, ComicBook/CrisisOnInfiniteEarths, he's violently insane due to the creation of the other Monitors]]
5th Apr '14 3:54:24 AM TricksterPriest
Is there an issue? Send a Message


Confirmed!

to:

Confirmed!
Confirmed! Edit: Or maybe not. Flashpoint screwed with alot of the internal continuity of DC and Darkseid either has come back or his history with DC earth was re-worked. Time will tell.



* Confirmed by JLA's Rock of Ages arc from ten years earlier. It's stated that every time Darkseid attempts something big with the universe it causes a reboot where nothing really happened. Superman's use of the Miracle Machine and the Rock of Ages from Metron's chair at the end of FC circumvents Darkseid's resurrection.

to:

* Confirmed by JLA's Rock of Ages arc from ten years earlier. It's stated that every time Darkseid attempts something big with the universe it causes a reboot where nothing really happened. Superman's use of the Miracle Machine and the Rock of Ages from Metron's chair at the end of FC circumvents Darkseid's resurrection.
resurrection. Edit: The "Rock of ages" aka the Worlogog, was not the material in Metron's chair. It was X element which is the primary component in boom tubes and used for other new god technology. Also, due to Flashpoint, it appears Darkseid has come back once again. Or his history has changed. It's too hard to tell at the moment. As for Batman? That one can't be credited to the Miracle Machine, given that Batman turned out to be Darkseid's backup plan, and this plan was confirmed to be in the works prior to the Miracle Machine being used. Darkseid told Mokkari (the apokoliptian scientist, not the Marvel guy) to save one brain dead clone of Batman from the failed cloning experiments. He said he could use it and that it would come in handy.
15th Aug '13 7:26:05 PM Johnny1993
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

** In his defence, Darkseid was dying at the time. The Anti-Life Equation was probably weakening with its user.
9th Feb '13 10:13:41 PM Benjamin1986
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*Given that it is cancelled by use of Wonder Woman's Lasso of truth, that seems actually quite likely, though it, like everything else, is incredibly rushed and not explained.
9th Nov '12 2:36:14 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[WMG:''FinalCrisis'' is the prequel to ''[[{{Legion Of Super-Heroes}} The Great Darkness Saga]]''.]]

to:

[[WMG:''FinalCrisis'' is the prequel to ''[[{{Legion ''[[ComicBook/{{Legion Of Super-Heroes}} The Great Darkness Saga]]''.]]
23rd Oct '12 4:00:33 PM MarkLungo
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[WMG:''FinalCrisis'' Never Happened''.]]

to:

[[WMG:''FinalCrisis'' Never Happened''.Happened.]]
23rd Oct '12 3:59:59 PM MarkLungo
Is there an issue? Send a Message


The correct one, of course, involves SquirrelGirl, also known as The Anti-Life.

to:

The correct one, of course, involves SquirrelGirl, also known as The Anti-Life.Anti-Life.
----
This list shows the last 10 events of 16. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=WMG.FinalCrisis