History WMG / EpicBattleFantasy

25th Nov '17 11:18:27 AM nedben
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[[WMG: The world's industrial capacity was essentially converted almost entirely to military purposes.]]
Most of the craftsmen and major centers of heavily processed production were destroyed horribly during the early shenanigans like Goku exploding, and afterward various factories were turned into weapons facilities either to take over others in the chaos, fend off each other, or to stem Lance's invasion or whoever (and then the virus/glitch or abandonment hit several of those facilities...)
* Things like stepladders are unique within the scope of the game, certain processed foods are exceedingly expensive, and lots of quest objects get bizarre relatively quickly because the places that make those products have gone the way of cat civilization and few entities remain to take advantage of them.

[[WMG: The delimbing of cats gave them limited telekinesis and snail feet.]]
This is why they can still hold things and generally seem to have invisible short limbs or whatever capable of constructing and operating weapons and machinery, and why they are mostly upright.

[[WMG: The delimbing of cats just made their limbs invisible.]]
Meow Meow has visible limbs in some scenes and doesn't have them in others, plus cats can still hold things. Godcat just hid the limb sprites or whatever.
25th Nov '17 11:08:30 AM nedben
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[[WMG: The ArbitraryHeadcountLimit / keeping someone in backup is because of several TPK experiences.]]
We know there's space on the average battlefield for more enemies because in the later games there ''are'', but there's got to be reason the players can't do so either. There's a lot of things that could have easily wiped the party and in some runs do: large explosions, zombie hydra instant death spam with some back luck, Sandworm meat, etc. The three-on-field-at-once is established as effective when Lance joins up. When the party fills up to 4, there's finally the option to keep someone in backup and away from the battlefield wandering around so that most party-wide attacks don't wipe them and so that they can have the opportunity to recuperate.

[[WMG: The Anna-like shopkeeper is just Anna's sister Sarah.]]
She retired from shopkeeping after EBF1 after the Gokusplosion or the violence that lead up to it essentially cleared out the monsters in her area, is presumably staying away from the zones of conflict in EBF2, makes it to a familiar forest in EBF3 where she hangs out for a while but cannot start another potion shop due to competition and waiting on Legolas, and by EBF4 is just deciding to stay home and maybe get into adventuring.
25th Nov '17 10:34:51 AM nedben
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[[WMG: Lance didn't actually ''stop'' trying to take over the world.]]
Many of his idles consist of communicating with someone else about topics such as nuclear explosions: it's quite possible he's doing the same thing offscreen and sticking with a party he may not like and knows can defeat him in order to keep them firmly occupied helping him remove future threats to his rule.
13th Mar '17 8:14:55 PM sweetstuff6789
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By some even more ancient Deity, who used Godcat to create Humanity in ''it's'' image because it was too lazy to, as the true dominant species. The ending wasn't Godcat having an ephiany, it was the even more ancient Deity taking over Godcat to stop it from destroying humans. And it will be the boss of the fifth game, since the pattern of "Boss from last game was made by a result of boss from this game's actions". The heroes are simply ''annoyed'' and get to grinding again.

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By some even more ancient Deity, who used Godcat to create Humanity in ''it's'' image because it was too lazy to, as the true dominant species. The ending wasn't Godcat having an ephiany, epiphany, it was the even more ancient Deity taking over Godcat to stop it from destroying humans. And it will be the boss of the fifth game, since the pattern of "Boss from last game was made by a result of boss from this game's actions". The heroes are simply ''annoyed'' and get to grinding again.again.


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[[WMG: The shopkeeper from EBF 1 was Anna's mother]]
StrongFamilyResemblance? Maybe even GenerationXerox?

[[WMG: Lance has PTSD to an extent]]
If the above WMG about Lance is taken as true (and the games give no evidence against it), he was certainly in a position to have developed it. Even if it's not true somehow, Lance still presumably served in the military, and the condition was first named with veterans in mind. There's also the fact that [[spoiler:he saw his father die in front of him.]] Now, as for the symptoms? Let's see...
* Reliving the Event: Visiting enclosed caves seems to trigger unpleasant memories of the traumatic event, as EBF 4 and 4.4 (Bullet Heaven 2) demonstrate.
* Bad Feelings About Others: When the player first encounters the Dark Players in Battle Mountain, Lance makes an offhanded remark about how he's wanted to kill the others. This included Matt, who was his friend prior to the second game, and Natz, who he has feelings for. He generally doesn't seem like he likes the others, but if he hated them so much, why would he stay with them? Also of note is that this symptom includes not being able to talk about the traumatic event in question; note that we only get details about the event after it's brought up a game later.
* Hyperarousal: One of Lance's lines upon revival says that it was the best sleep he's had in a long time. Remember, this is a line he says ''after he's been dead.''
This doesn't excuse Lance's more off-color behavior, but it might go some way to explain why.
18th Sep '15 6:18:44 AM SystemCellar
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** ''Bullet Heaven 2'' adds to this. In 4-5, Lance says he might have a phobia of being buried alive. [[spoiler:A few lines later, he is crying and reveals that his dad was killed in a mine-crafting incident. "He just wanted those diamonds so badly... and then... Boom! All that was left of him was his shovel... and some blocks of wood... and a single lump of coal." (Jarringly enough, Anna is the only one to react to the reveal, as the post-boss dialogue is all about how Lance conquered his fear and where they're supposed to go next.)]]
9th May '15 11:54:38 AM EarlOfSandvich
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* As an addition, Lance's father may have been a miner. In the fourth game, he mentions with a ThousandYardStare how he was taken on a mining trip one time, and how it evidently scarred him for life. It was a reference to {{Minecraft}} and PlayedForLaughs at the time, but it might make more sense now if his father had a horrifying job like that. Combined with some [=NPCs=] actually protesting how unfair the economic system is, ([=PCs=] kill monsters to earn money, then Shopkeepers charge insane amounts and hog all the money) it's possible Lance came from a non-PC/Shopkeeper home... Which isn't a good thing.

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* As an addition, Lance's father may have been a miner. In the fourth game, he mentions with a ThousandYardStare how he was taken on a mining trip one time, and how it evidently scarred him for life. It was a reference to {{Minecraft}} ''VideoGame/{{Minecraft}}'' and PlayedForLaughs at the time, but it might make more sense now if his father had a horrifying job like that. Combined with some [=NPCs=] actually protesting how unfair the economic system is, ([=PCs=] kill monsters to earn money, then Shopkeepers charge insane amounts and hog all the money) it's possible Lance came from a non-PC/Shopkeeper home... Which isn't a good thing.
11th Jan '15 11:45:02 PM Vegos
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** Jossed. [[spoiler: Akron was ''created'' by Godcat.]]




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* For the sake of sanity, let's hope that what she meant was "I'm having the same hopes as last time", rather than "I hope this doesn't go the same as last time."
** For the sake of insanity, let's assume that child is Cthulhu.
25th Nov '14 11:34:25 AM THEBATHEAD
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[[WMG:How the side games' stories are connected]]
Of course, ''Epic Battle Fantasy 1'' came first. But before ''2'', Lance started gaining strength and gathering devout followers, and wanted to take Natalie for his queen, kicking off the plot of ''Adventure Story''. Matt rescued Natalie but failed to get Lance, and ''Epic Battle Fantasy 2'' came from there. Later, once Akron was defeated, the Godcats began to fight over what to do with the humans who dared destroy him completely, and the heroes decided to stop them before their fighting destroyed the world in ''Bullet Heaven''. The heroes only managed to stop the Godcats' quarrel, but then they struggled to get along, and the heroes stole everything they could in case the Godcats ever got along.

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8th Jul '14 11:59:36 AM nedben
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The Beholder's attack in the fourth game prompts Natalie to hope she doesn't get pregnant from it "again". While that may mean she again doesn't want to get pregnant from the beholder, it could mean that she has indeed gotten pregnant with a beholder child, carried it to term, and there is now a freaking Natz/Beholder hybrid wandering around. Natz/Beholder child for EBF 5 new hero.

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The Beholder's attack in the fourth game prompts Natalie to hope she doesn't get pregnant from it "again". While that may mean she again doesn't want to get pregnant from the beholder, it could mean that she has indeed gotten pregnant with a beholder child, carried it to term, and there is now a freaking Natz/Beholder hybrid wandering around. Natz/Beholder child for EBF 5 new hero.hero.
[[WMG: Natz does not want to use the Sol Spear in EBF 3 because Catastrophe hit her with it during the EBF 1 summon.]]
She hogs the other spear because it's better as a staff anyways.
11th May '14 6:28:14 PM nedben
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By some even more ancient Deity, who used Godcat to create Humanity in ''it's'' image because it was too lazy to, as the true dominant species. The ending wasn't Godcat having an ephiany, it was the even more ancient Deity taking over Godcat to stop it from destroying humans. And it will be the boss of the fifth game, since the pattern of "Boss from last game was made by a result of boss from this game's actions". The heroes are simply ''annoyed'' and get to grinding again.

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By some even more ancient Deity, who used Godcat to create Humanity in ''it's'' image because it was too lazy to, as the true dominant species. The ending wasn't Godcat having an ephiany, it was the even more ancient Deity taking over Godcat to stop it from destroying humans. And it will be the boss of the fifth game, since the pattern of "Boss from last game was made by a result of boss from this game's actions". The heroes are simply ''annoyed'' and get to grinding again.again.
[[WMG: Natz and the Beholder had a child.]]
The Beholder's attack in the fourth game prompts Natalie to hope she doesn't get pregnant from it "again". While that may mean she again doesn't want to get pregnant from the beholder, it could mean that she has indeed gotten pregnant with a beholder child, carried it to term, and there is now a freaking Natz/Beholder hybrid wandering around. Natz/Beholder child for EBF 5 new hero.
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