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17th Jun '16 10:37:08 PM nombretomado
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Makes sense. Horns, teeth, eyes. And it is canon in the TabletopGames/{{Dungeons and Dragons}} lore.

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Makes sense. Horns, teeth, eyes. And it is canon in the TabletopGames/{{Dungeons TabletopGame/{{Dungeons and Dragons}} lore.
4th May '16 4:05:23 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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[[WMG:Iron Heart Surge is a manifestation of [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Energy]].]]

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[[WMG:Iron Heart Surge is a manifestation of [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Energy]].]]
4th May '16 1:00:04 PM aye_amber
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* The Shadowfell is really the [[http://zs.ffshrine.org/link-to-the-past/maps/dark_world.png Dark World]] of A Link to the Past's (and now the 4E default setting's) [[http://ian-albert.com/games/legend_of_zelda_a_link_to_the_past_maps/light_world-2.png Light World]]. The reduced damage, increased hit points, etc. also lend themselves to 4E masquerading as a Zelda game-world. The Feywild is the Golden Land before being corrupted by Ganon.

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* The Shadowfell is really the [[http://zs.ffshrine.org/link-to-the-past/maps/dark_world.png [[http://i.imgur.com/rNa2Sns.jpg Dark World]] of A Link to the Past's (and now the 4E default setting's) [[http://ian-albert.com/games/legend_of_zelda_a_link_to_the_past_maps/light_world-2.png Light World]]. The reduced damage, increased hit points, etc. also lend themselves to 4E masquerading as a Zelda game-world. The Feywild is the Golden Land before being corrupted by Ganon.
6th Feb '16 11:46:23 PM nombretomado
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This idea is popular in fanfics (there may a WordOfDante about it somewhere). It is made possible because this cartoon was made in TheDarkAgeOfAnimation.

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This idea is popular in fanfics (there may a WordOfDante about it somewhere). It is made possible because this cartoon was made in TheDarkAgeOfAnimation.
UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfAnimation.
20th Dec '15 9:32:15 PM superboy313
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[[WMG: [[YouKnowTheOne The Nameless One]] is [[GodOfEvil Asmodeus]].]]
Given that he's the rule of Hell in the [[TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons tabletop game]], it's possible that he's [[GreaterScopeVillain Venger's master]].
29th Aug '15 7:04:35 AM Adept
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In fact they rise from the sea to wipe out all life. Their civilization goes pretty well, until they fall into a race-wide state of WhoWantsToLiveForever and end up [[{{Ayreon}} seeding the Earth.]]

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In fact they rise from the sea to wipe out all life. Their civilization goes pretty well, until they fall into a race-wide state of WhoWantsToLiveForever and end up [[{{Ayreon}} [[Music/{{Ayreon}} seeding the Earth.]]
3rd Jul '15 11:21:07 PM nombretomado
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* No, no, I think we're barking up the wrong tree. It's one of our unifying WMG's: re-read that description. Tell me this mythic "Shadowfell" world is not, in fact, [[Main/LegacyOfKain Nosgoth]].

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* No, no, I think we're barking up the wrong tree. It's one of our unifying WMG's: re-read that description. Tell me this mythic "Shadowfell" world is not, in fact, [[Main/LegacyOfKain [[VideoGame/LegacyOfKain Nosgoth]].
26th Jun '15 8:47:23 AM justanid
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* Screw that. It is Coldharbour from [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]].

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* Screw that. It is Coldharbour from [[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIVOblivion Oblivion]].''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''.



* Shadowfell is not new. It existed in previous editions as the Plane of Shadows, at least in Forgotten Realms. It hasn't really changed much at all.
** And Dolurrh in Eberron. Face it, to get a description of the Shadowfell just Ctrl+ C, Ctrl+ V the description of Dolurrh. It then follows, from the addition of action points to the core mechanics, that Eberron is actually a [[Literature/{{Discworld}} parasite universe]], and will end up being the sole remaining setting by 10th edition (with the exception of things like DarkSun and {{Spelljammer}}, which are clearly stages of Eberron's future). Fortuitously, this will annihilate all memory of [[TheScrappy Drizzt]].
*** Sounds about right. Even if Eberron doesn't completely displace the other realms, they'll probably just reintroduce spelljammer to make them all part of one 'verse, and then whatever caused the Day of Mourning will end up happening again at the same time as the latest mystra dies, and Toril and Eberron will end up merging.
** Canonically, in Forgotten Realms, Shadowfell merged with The Plane of Shadows, hence the similarities. The Plane Of Shadows originally didn't really have that many undead, at least of the traditional types. Shadows and the like, sure, but not zombies.
** But the BirthRight campaign introduced the Shadow World which...did serve as a mirror of the living world populated by the undead, including a bunch of zombies.
** Even before BirthRight, there was a similar realm called Limbo (not the Great Wheel plane) described in Bruce Heard's series of ''Princess Ark'' articles about the Basic/Expert/etc D&D system's {{Mystara}}. Really, it's a ''very'' old concept that 4E integrated from many, many sources, most of which predate gaming itself.


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* Shadowfell is not new. It existed in previous editions as the Plane of Shadows, at least in Forgotten Realms.the ''Forgotten Realms''. It hasn't really changed much at all.
** And Dolurrh in Eberron. ''TabletopGame/{{Eberron}}''. Face it, to get a description of the Shadowfell just Ctrl+ Ctrl + C, Ctrl+ Ctrl + V the description of Dolurrh. It then follows, from the addition of action points to the core mechanics, that Eberron ''Eberron'' is actually a [[Literature/{{Discworld}} parasite universe]], and will end up being the sole remaining setting by 10th edition (with the exception of things like DarkSun ''TabletopGame/DarkSun'' and {{Spelljammer}}, ''TabletopGame/{{Spelljammer}}'', which are clearly stages of Eberron's ''Eberron's'' future). Fortuitously, this will annihilate all memory of [[TheScrappy Drizzt]].
*** Sounds about right. Even if Eberron doesn't completely displace the other realms, they'll probably just reintroduce spelljammer spelljammers to make them all part of one 'verse, and then whatever caused the Day of Mourning will end up happening again at the same time as the latest mystra Mystra dies, and Toril and Eberron will end up merging.
** Canonically, in Forgotten Realms, the ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'', Shadowfell merged with The Plane of Shadows, hence the similarities. The Plane Of of Shadows originally didn't really have that many undead, at least of the traditional types. Shadows and the like, sure, but not zombies.
** But the BirthRight ''TabletopGame/BirthRight'' campaign introduced the Shadow World which...did serve as a mirror of the living world populated by the undead, including a bunch of zombies.
** Even before BirthRight, ''Birth Right'', there was a similar realm called Limbo (not the Great Wheel plane) described in Bruce Heard's series of ''Princess Ark'' articles about the Basic/Expert/etc D&D ''D&D'' system's {{Mystara}}.''TabletopGame/{{Mystara}}''. Really, it's a ''very'' old concept that 4E integrated from many, many sources, most of which predate gaming itself.

23rd Jun '15 4:09:56 PM nombretomado
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** [[KingOfTheHill I imagine Propane and Propane Accessories fit into thsi somehow...]]

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** [[KingOfTheHill [[WesternAnimation/KingOfTheHill I imagine Propane and Propane Accessories fit into thsi this somehow...]]
27th Feb '15 10:59:08 AM SeptimusHeap
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Sannish stains the lips blue. In the sequel he mentions problems with controlling his urges, at the time a reference to his undead form of sustenance but possibly also a problem that he's been having since he was alive. This would also explain how Profion controlled him, since it's made by distilling wolf's milk, something Profion could harvest via summon monster spells. Sannish itself is essentially magical opium, making you immune to pain but causing wisdom damage, meaning that the fighter Damodar would become more easily addicted since his will save is already so low and could only get lower from there. In ''DungeonsAndDragonsWrathOfTheDragonGod'' his lips are normal, since he was undead, which are immune to negative drug effects.

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Sannish stains the lips blue. In the sequel he mentions problems with controlling his urges, at the time a reference to his undead form of sustenance but possibly also a problem that he's been having since he was alive. This would also explain how Profion controlled him, since it's made by distilling wolf's milk, something Profion could harvest via summon monster spells. Sannish itself is essentially magical opium, making you immune to pain but causing wisdom damage, meaning that the fighter Damodar would become more easily addicted since his will save is already so low and could only get lower from there. In ''DungeonsAndDragonsWrathOfTheDragonGod'' ''Film/DungeonsAndDragonsWrathOfTheDragonGod'' his lips are normal, since he was undead, which are immune to negative drug effects.



Think about it. What would you do if you had to write the script for a film based on the world's most famous role-playing game? No matter what you write, it will end up being vastly different to at least somebody's idea of the typical campaign, so what do you include and what can you leave out? At the same time, you have a group of people who are about to try acting in this film, who need to know what their characters are like so that they can act their parts convincingly. What better way to help them '''play''' their '''role''' than with a '''role''' '''playing''' game that their characters are in? And if you're going to play a DungeonsAndDragons campaign before filming anyway, coming up with all that plot, why not use it?

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Think about it. What would you do if you had to write the script for a film based on the world's most famous role-playing game? No matter what you write, it will end up being vastly different to at least somebody's idea of the typical campaign, so what do you include and what can you leave out? At the same time, you have a group of people who are about to try acting in this film, who need to know what their characters are like so that they can act their parts convincingly. What better way to help them '''play''' their '''role''' than with a '''role''' '''playing''' game that their characters are in? And if you're going to play a DungeonsAndDragons ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' campaign before filming anyway, coming up with all that plot, why not use it?
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