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17th Jan '16 9:49:48 AM Sharlee
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* Too late, Harry already used that reference in ''War Cry''.
21st Dec '15 8:58:14 AM jlhess08
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* Mab will die in some glorious battle, probably at the climax of ''Stars And Stones'' or maybe near the beginning of ''Empty Night''. Molly will then shed her mantle as Lady Winter, and take up the mantle of the Winter Queen, as the Lady is supposed to do. Meanwhile, the mantle of Lady Winter will pass into the vessel of the Winter Knight's daughter, and Maggie Dresden will suddenly be The Queen To Come.

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* Mab will die in some glorious battle, probably at the climax of ''Stars And Stones'' or maybe near the beginning of ''Empty Night''. Molly will then shed her mantle as Lady Winter, and take up the mantle of the Winter Queen, as the Lady is supposed to do. Meanwhile, the mantle of Lady Winter will pass into the vessel of the Winter Knight's daughter, and Maggie Dresden will suddenly be The Queen To Come.Come.

[[WMG: Empty Night will refer to the absence of magic.]]
In keeping with the tradition of book titles having more than one internal reference, the use of Empty Night for the final book title will mean more than just the result of the Outsiders getting loose. In Blood Rites, Harry deduces what his mother did to Lord Raith because it is the most punishing thing he could think of: to leave him alive but powerless against all of the foes he has amassed. It seems like Jim likes to punish characters in the most brutal ways, so picture this ending: During the course of Hell's Bells, the Norse and Greek pantheons (or what remain) are destroyed in a battle with the escapees from Demonreach, but manage to take them with them. Heaven is tied up fighting the literal forces of Hell in the Nevernever or wherever they are. Then Mab, Titania and the Mothers are destroyed in a massive last stand against the Outsiders at the Outer Gates, leaving Molly (and maybe Sarissa if she's still around). During Empty Night, it is discovered that the Nevernever could somehow be sealed off from reality, and Harry and co. save it as a last ditch resort if they can't stop the progress of the Outsiders. Then, toward the end of the book, they realize that so long as the Sidhe and other creatures who are part of both the Nevernever and reality exist, they can NOT cut off the Nevernever. But things are going badly, so Molly forces Harry out of the Nevernever (where the Heroic Last Stand is taking place) and sacrifices herself and the rest of the Faeries through some complex magic that destroys the connection between the Nevernever and reality. So the end of the book is spent with the remnants of wizardkind discovering that their access to the Nevernever is completely gone (which is good because the Outsiders and the remaining Nevernever baddies are eternally sealed away), and that magic actually originated from there and seeped through the porous boundaries to reality. Basically, they discover that reality is now functionally a closed circle (like in Small Favor when the Denarians were trying to capture Ivy), and eventually all of the magic will be used up. The loss of magic also prevents any remaining White Court vampires from feeding and using their powers (because reasons), so the world really is just a plain vanilla world. And Harry is still alive, but has lost not only Molly (and any other friends or loved ones from earlier in the trilogy) but also one of the key components of his identity. Empty Night, indeed.
4th Oct '15 8:43:16 PM DarkStarling
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** And it will mark when she finally succumbs to an infection by Nemesis that she has been fighting.
22nd Aug '15 11:09:47 AM lightningpastry
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** I seriously doubt we've seen the last of Id!Harry
22nd Aug '15 11:06:22 AM lightningpastry
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** You forget, Ragnorak is where Odin dies.

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** You forget, Ragnorak Ragnarok is where Odin dies.



My name is Margareth Katherine Amanda Carpenter. Conjure it at your own risk. When things get strange, when what goes bump in the night flicks on the lights, when no one else can help you, give me a call.

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My name is Margareth Margaret Katherine Amanda Carpenter. Conjure it at your own risk. When things get strange, when what goes bump in the night flicks on the lights, when no one else can help you, give me a call.





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\n* I dunno. The Outsiders want to rule the world. Kemmler struck me as being nobody's errand boy. Kemmler wanted to rule the world himself, and the Outsiders are, if anything, a threat to his power. All the Darkhallows he was pulling off were to increase his own power, not let one of the Old Ones back in. Being a Bad Dude with respect to the Fifth Law doesn't automatically make one want to break the Seventh.

22nd Aug '15 11:00:12 AM lightningpastry
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*** Word of Jim states that "There's only three or four of [Great Dragons like Ferro and Siriothrax] left in the world."
23rd Mar '15 9:07:32 AM ReaderAt2046
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* Alternately, in combination with the above theory about Nemesis infecting Harry, the Walker will be sent to infect Harry with it, explaining that the whole reason it was really after him the first time was indeed, as Lea thought, to train him... in order to be Nemesis' ultimate host, TheAntichrist who will break open the Outer Gates.

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* Alternately, in combination with the above theory about Nemesis infecting Harry, the Walker will be sent to infect Harry with it, explaining that the whole reason it was really after him the first time was indeed, as Lea thought, to train him... in order to be Nemesis' ultimate host, TheAntichrist who will break open the Outer Gates.Gates.

[[WMG: At some point, Mab will die, Molly will become Winter Queen, and Maggie will be the new Winter Lady.]]
* Mab will die in some glorious battle, probably at the climax of ''Stars And Stones'' or maybe near the beginning of ''Empty Night''. Molly will then shed her mantle as Lady Winter, and take up the mantle of the Winter Queen, as the Lady is supposed to do. Meanwhile, the mantle of Lady Winter will pass into the vessel of the Winter Knight's daughter, and Maggie Dresden will suddenly be The Queen To Come.
16th Mar '15 10:44:06 AM ZimFan89
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* And then he'll have a BattleInTheCenterOfTheMind, and force it out.



The series has hinted at the Walker viewing Harry as some kind of ArchEnemy for Harry, and at the very least, during its brief appearance in ''Blood Rites'', it promises that they will meet again. Perhaps during the FinalBattle, or as a means of keeping Harry distracted during the leadup to it, the Black Council will sic the Walker on him. Harry will have a panic-induced HeroicBSOD at this (as he's had every other time the Walker has been so much as mentioned), but will ultimately decide he's TiredOfRunning and call it out for a showdown.

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The series has hinted at the Walker viewing Harry as some kind of ArchEnemy for Harry, ArchEnemy, and at the very least, during its brief appearance in ''Blood Rites'', it promises that they will meet again. Perhaps during the FinalBattle, or as a means of keeping Harry distracted during the leadup to it, the Black Council will sic the Walker on him. Harry will have a panic-induced HeroicBSOD at this (as he's had every other time the Walker has been so much as mentioned), but will ultimately decide he's TiredOfRunning and call it out for a showdown.showdown.
* Alternately, in combination with the above theory about Nemesis infecting Harry, the Walker will be sent to infect Harry with it, explaining that the whole reason it was really after him the first time was indeed, as Lea thought, to train him... in order to be Nemesis' ultimate host, TheAntichrist who will break open the Outer Gates.
3rd Mar '15 8:26:25 AM ZimFan89
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* The universe will be destroyed around Harry, and he will die last, alone.

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* The universe will be destroyed around Harry, and he will die last, alone.



* ExactWords: "I am Mab. The stars will rain from the sky before Mab fulfills not her word."

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* ExactWords: "I am Mab. The stars will rain from the sky before Mab fulfills not her word."



* In keeping with the "make Harry hurt" theme, we need to have a NearVillainVictory. Being infected by Nemesis would likely qualify as a failure to the starborn Harry.

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* In keeping with the "make Harry hurt" theme, we need to have a NearVillainVictory. Being infected by Nemesis would likely qualify as a failure to the starborn Harry.Harry.

[[WMG: He Who Walks Behind will return.]]
The series has hinted at the Walker viewing Harry as some kind of ArchEnemy for Harry, and at the very least, during its brief appearance in ''Blood Rites'', it promises that they will meet again. Perhaps during the FinalBattle, or as a means of keeping Harry distracted during the leadup to it, the Black Council will sic the Walker on him. Harry will have a panic-induced HeroicBSOD at this (as he's had every other time the Walker has been so much as mentioned), but will ultimately decide he's TiredOfRunning and call it out for a showdown.
9th Feb '15 10:36:15 AM Wicked
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*Kemmler would be a natual leader for the Black Council. When Cowl scoffed at the notion of being Kemmler's apprentice in Dead Beat, he was thinking of Kemmler as a political rival in the Black Council, rather than someone to be revered.

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