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5th Sep '16 4:51:42 PM CarrieVS
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* I don't see it. As of the second half of ''Changes'' he doesn't only use fire in a fight. Everyone who's ever promised to do something 'when Hell freezes over' might be in for a shock...

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* I don't see it. As of the second half of ''Changes'' he doesn't only use fire in a fight. Everyone who's ever promised to do something 'when Hell freezes over' might be in for a shock...
shock... Come to think of it, I'll lay even money someone uses that expression to Harry early in the book, and he tries to collect.
1st Sep '16 2:11:09 PM CarrieVS
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* I don't see it. As of the second half of ''Changes'' he doesn't only use fire in a fight. Everyone who's ever promised to do something 'when Hell freezes over' might be in for a shock...
14th Jul '16 10:10:24 PM Dreamwalker
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* If Harry plays a role in remaking the world, he will forgo 'Let There Be Light' in favor of the very first spell that he ever got to work, the spell that he uses to light things: [[spoiler: Flickum Bicus]]
26th Jun '16 9:19:00 PM nombretomado
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* As of SkinGame, this is not likely; much of the resources at Nick's disposal have been lost, thanks to the machinations of Mab, Marcone, and Hades, not to mention the efforts of our heroes.

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* As of SkinGame, Literature/SkinGame, this is not likely; much of the resources at Nick's disposal have been lost, thanks to the machinations of Mab, Marcone, and Hades, not to mention the efforts of our heroes.
17th Jan '16 9:49:48 AM Sharlee
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* Too late, Harry already used that reference in ''War Cry''.
21st Dec '15 8:58:14 AM jlhess08
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* Mab will die in some glorious battle, probably at the climax of ''Stars And Stones'' or maybe near the beginning of ''Empty Night''. Molly will then shed her mantle as Lady Winter, and take up the mantle of the Winter Queen, as the Lady is supposed to do. Meanwhile, the mantle of Lady Winter will pass into the vessel of the Winter Knight's daughter, and Maggie Dresden will suddenly be The Queen To Come.

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* Mab will die in some glorious battle, probably at the climax of ''Stars And Stones'' or maybe near the beginning of ''Empty Night''. Molly will then shed her mantle as Lady Winter, and take up the mantle of the Winter Queen, as the Lady is supposed to do. Meanwhile, the mantle of Lady Winter will pass into the vessel of the Winter Knight's daughter, and Maggie Dresden will suddenly be The Queen To Come.Come.

[[WMG: Empty Night will refer to the absence of magic.]]
In keeping with the tradition of book titles having more than one internal reference, the use of Empty Night for the final book title will mean more than just the result of the Outsiders getting loose. In Blood Rites, Harry deduces what his mother did to Lord Raith because it is the most punishing thing he could think of: to leave him alive but powerless against all of the foes he has amassed. It seems like Jim likes to punish characters in the most brutal ways, so picture this ending: During the course of Hell's Bells, the Norse and Greek pantheons (or what remain) are destroyed in a battle with the escapees from Demonreach, but manage to take them with them. Heaven is tied up fighting the literal forces of Hell in the Nevernever or wherever they are. Then Mab, Titania and the Mothers are destroyed in a massive last stand against the Outsiders at the Outer Gates, leaving Molly (and maybe Sarissa if she's still around). During Empty Night, it is discovered that the Nevernever could somehow be sealed off from reality, and Harry and co. save it as a last ditch resort if they can't stop the progress of the Outsiders. Then, toward the end of the book, they realize that so long as the Sidhe and other creatures who are part of both the Nevernever and reality exist, they can NOT cut off the Nevernever. But things are going badly, so Molly forces Harry out of the Nevernever (where the Heroic Last Stand is taking place) and sacrifices herself and the rest of the Faeries through some complex magic that destroys the connection between the Nevernever and reality. So the end of the book is spent with the remnants of wizardkind discovering that their access to the Nevernever is completely gone (which is good because the Outsiders and the remaining Nevernever baddies are eternally sealed away), and that magic actually originated from there and seeped through the porous boundaries to reality. Basically, they discover that reality is now functionally a closed circle (like in Small Favor when the Denarians were trying to capture Ivy), and eventually all of the magic will be used up. The loss of magic also prevents any remaining White Court vampires from feeding and using their powers (because reasons), so the world really is just a plain vanilla world. And Harry is still alive, but has lost not only Molly (and any other friends or loved ones from earlier in the trilogy) but also one of the key components of his identity. Empty Night, indeed.
4th Oct '15 8:43:16 PM DarkStarling
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** And it will mark when she finally succumbs to an infection by Nemesis that she has been fighting.
22nd Aug '15 11:09:47 AM lightningpastry
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** I seriously doubt we've seen the last of Id!Harry
22nd Aug '15 11:06:22 AM lightningpastry
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** You forget, Ragnorak is where Odin dies.

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** You forget, Ragnorak Ragnarok is where Odin dies.



My name is Margareth Katherine Amanda Carpenter. Conjure it at your own risk. When things get strange, when what goes bump in the night flicks on the lights, when no one else can help you, give me a call.

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My name is Margareth Margaret Katherine Amanda Carpenter. Conjure it at your own risk. When things get strange, when what goes bump in the night flicks on the lights, when no one else can help you, give me a call.





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\n* I dunno. The Outsiders want to rule the world. Kemmler struck me as being nobody's errand boy. Kemmler wanted to rule the world himself, and the Outsiders are, if anything, a threat to his power. All the Darkhallows he was pulling off were to increase his own power, not let one of the Old Ones back in. Being a Bad Dude with respect to the Fifth Law doesn't automatically make one want to break the Seventh.

22nd Aug '15 11:00:12 AM lightningpastry
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*** Word of Jim states that "There's only three or four of [Great Dragons like Ferro and Siriothrax] left in the world."
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