History WMG / Dishonored

28th May '17 3:04:02 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Dishonored takes place in the {{Warhammer}} universe]]

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[[WMG: Dishonored takes place in the {{Warhammer}} ''TabletopGame/{{Warhammer}}'' universe]]
8th Jan '17 4:31:42 AM madame_newbie
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* In ''Dishonored 2'', Delilah has usurped Emily and goes by the name "Delilah Kaldwin"

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* In ''Dishonored 2'', Delilah has usurped Emily and goes by the name "Delilah Kaldwin"
Kaldwin".
* Confirmed in the sequel. Delilah is Jessamine's half-sister and was apparently 'promised' the throne by her father, the Emperor Euhorn Kaldwin. She was kicked out the Tower because she was accused of an accident Jessamine made and the former hated the latter due the extreme misfortune that befell her since then.




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* Jossed. Delilah is Emperor Euhorn Kaldwin's eldest bastard daughter.




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* Confirmed via WordOfGod. There are hints that they both knew about it.
4th Jan '17 2:44:25 AM madame_newbie
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* JOSSED. Emily was born during the Month of Rain (4th Month in the Imperial Calender). She was conceived during the Month of Hearths (9th Month) the year before, placing her conception far too late for the Fugue Feast.
7th Dec '16 12:22:08 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* "Eminent Domain" and "The Surge" seem to take place shortly after "House of Pleasure". In "Eminent Domain", the broadcaster won't shut up about the Lord Regent raising the price on info on Emily's whereabouts, implying that he no longer knows where she is. The next mission in the main game, "The Royal Physician", has Corvo abduct Sokolov. Although Daud knows that Delilah can be found in Brigmore, he's GenreSavvy enough to understand that trying to take on a powerful witch without all the intel he can get on her is a bad idea. One of the few things known about Delilah is that she used to work with Sokolov, so Daud's next step should be to find out what Sokolov knows. But since Sokolov goes missing shortly after ''The Knife of Dunwall'', that's not an option. Daud will have to settle for looking into one of Sokolov's colleagues at the Academy.

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* "Eminent Domain" and "The Surge" seem to take place shortly after "House of Pleasure". In "Eminent Domain", the broadcaster won't shut up about the Lord Regent raising the price on info on Emily's whereabouts, implying that he no longer knows where she is. The next mission in the main game, "The Royal Physician", has Corvo abduct Sokolov. Although Daud knows that Delilah can be found in Brigmore, he's GenreSavvy enough to understand he understands that trying to take on a powerful witch without all the intel he can get on her is a bad idea. One of the few things known about Delilah is that she used to work with Sokolov, so Daud's next step should be to find out what Sokolov knows. But since Sokolov goes missing shortly after ''The Knife of Dunwall'', that's not an option. Daud will have to settle for looking into one of Sokolov's colleagues at the Academy.
9th Jul '16 8:13:26 PM TheFacelessOne
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When you consider how easily a man like Burrows took power, how cruel many of the rich and powerful are, and how grim and depressing the lives of many people are, it could be argued that The Outsider, with his "Human morality but inhuman perception" per WordOfGod, see's a few years of death and pain preferable to a few thousand years of most people being miserable. In Low Chaos, things get better by way of Emily being benevolent. In Total Chaos, thing's get "better" by way of KarmaticDeath for the corrupt and by way of MercyKill for those who would otherwise suffer there entire lives.

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When you consider how easily a man like Burrows took power, how cruel many of the rich and powerful are, and how grim and depressing the lives of many people are, it could be argued that The Outsider, with his "Human morality but inhuman perception" per WordOfGod, see's a few years of death and pain preferable to a few thousand years of most people being miserable. In Low Chaos, things get better by way of Emily being benevolent. In Total Chaos, thing's get "better" by way of KarmaticDeath KarmicDeath for the corrupt and by way of MercyKill for those who would otherwise suffer there entire lives.
9th Jul '16 8:10:50 PM TheFacelessOne
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While the chaos stat is determined by how you act in-game, its consequences are oddly far-reaching. That's because you're not just playing out your actions in the now, you're also establishing what Corvo's character was before the game started. Go on a murder spree, and Corvo will have always been the kind of man who'd kill dozens just because they were in the way and he didn't feel like trying a stealthy approach. Do a ghost run, and Corvo will have always been the kind of man who'd always find a better way than murder. The effects on the city aren't the result of your killings, but the result of the empress' taste in men. If she took a high-chaos Corvo for a bodyguard, she was kinda unstable and handled the plague outbreaks worse. The conspirators are affected for a similar reason, as the personality of the empress probably had a major influence on the way business was handled in court and in politics. Under a more unstable empress, a more ruthless personality was needed to reach the top. As for the storm in the final level? High-Chaos Corvo once killed a [[ButterflyOfDoom butterfly]] low-chaos Corvo spared.

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While the chaos stat is determined by how you act in-game, its consequences are oddly far-reaching. That's because you're not just playing out your actions in the now, you're also establishing what Corvo's character was before the game started. Go on a murder spree, and Corvo will have always been the kind of man who'd kill dozens just because they were in the way and he didn't feel like trying a stealthy approach. Do a ghost run, and Corvo will have always been the kind of man who'd always find a better way than murder. The effects on the city aren't the result of your killings, but the result of the empress' taste in men. If she took a high-chaos Corvo for a bodyguard, she was kinda unstable and handled the plague outbreaks worse. The conspirators are affected for a similar reason, as the personality of the empress probably had a major influence on the way business was handled in court and in politics. Under a more unstable empress, a more ruthless personality was needed to reach the top. As for the storm in the final level? High-Chaos Corvo once killed a [[ButterflyOfDoom butterfly]] low-chaos Corvo spared.spared.

[[WMG: The Outsider seems pleased in the Total Chaos ending not because of all the pain and death, but because the city deserved it and/or it's a (relatively) quick and painless "death"]]
When you consider how easily a man like Burrows took power, how cruel many of the rich and powerful are, and how grim and depressing the lives of many people are, it could be argued that The Outsider, with his "Human morality but inhuman perception" per WordOfGod, see's a few years of death and pain preferable to a few thousand years of most people being miserable. In Low Chaos, things get better by way of Emily being benevolent. In Total Chaos, thing's get "better" by way of KarmaticDeath for the corrupt and by way of MercyKill for those who would otherwise suffer there entire lives.
14th Jun '16 6:48:31 PM ijffdrie
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If Daud spared Billie in ''The Knife of Dunwall'', Billie leaves behind a book of possible locations Daud can retire to in ''The Witches of Brigmore''. One of these listed locations is Karnaca, and we also know that Daud was originally from Serkanos, where Karnaca is located. Since Dishonored 2 takes place in Karnaca and it appears that the Low Chaos ending is the canonical one, it would be possible that Emily and Corvo may run into a (possibly) retired Daud.

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If Daud spared Billie in ''The Knife of Dunwall'', Billie leaves behind a book of possible locations Daud can retire to in ''The Witches of Brigmore''. One of these listed locations is Karnaca, and we also know that Daud was originally from Serkanos, where Karnaca is located. Since Dishonored 2 takes place in Karnaca and it appears that the Low Chaos ending is the canonical one, it would be possible that Emily and Corvo may run into a (possibly) retired Daud.Daud.

[[WMG: The Chaos stat establishes Corvo's backstory]]
While the chaos stat is determined by how you act in-game, its consequences are oddly far-reaching. That's because you're not just playing out your actions in the now, you're also establishing what Corvo's character was before the game started. Go on a murder spree, and Corvo will have always been the kind of man who'd kill dozens just because they were in the way and he didn't feel like trying a stealthy approach. Do a ghost run, and Corvo will have always been the kind of man who'd always find a better way than murder. The effects on the city aren't the result of your killings, but the result of the empress' taste in men. If she took a high-chaos Corvo for a bodyguard, she was kinda unstable and handled the plague outbreaks worse. The conspirators are affected for a similar reason, as the personality of the empress probably had a major influence on the way business was handled in court and in politics. Under a more unstable empress, a more ruthless personality was needed to reach the top. As for the storm in the final level? High-Chaos Corvo once killed a [[ButterflyOfDoom butterfly]] low-chaos Corvo spared.
13th Jun '16 4:51:21 AM lrrose
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* In ''Dishonored 2'', Delilah has usurped Emily and goes by the name "Delilah Kaldwin"
20th Jan '16 3:27:15 PM spoonofevil
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If Daud spared Billie in ''The Knife of Dunwall'', Billie leaves behind a book of possible locations Daud can retire to in ''The Witches of Brigmore''. One of these listed locations is Karnaca, and we also know that Daud was originally from Serkanos, where Karnaca is located. Since it appears that the Low Chaos route is the canonical route, it would be possible that Emily and Corvo may run into a (possibly) retired Daud.

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If Daud spared Billie in ''The Knife of Dunwall'', Billie leaves behind a book of possible locations Daud can retire to in ''The Witches of Brigmore''. One of these listed locations is Karnaca, and we also know that Daud was originally from Serkanos, where Karnaca is located. Since Dishonored 2 takes place in Karnaca and it appears that the Low Chaos route ending is the canonical route, one, it would be possible that Emily and Corvo may run into a (possibly) retired Daud.
20th Jan '16 3:26:01 PM spoonofevil
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*** The plague may have already been ravaging Dunwall by the time the Outsider granted the bullied boy his powers. It's made clear in Burrows' confession that he imported the plague to Dunwall.




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** Both the main game and the ''Knife of Dunwall'' DLC make it clear that Daud was hired by Burrows to assassinate the Empress.




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*** The third episode of ''Tales of Dunwall'' pretty much confirms that Piero was influenced by the Outsider to build Corvo's mask.
** Jossed. Sokolov is the main inventor of most of the current Trans technology in the game, and the Outsider flat out says he finds Sokolov boring. If you read Sokolov's notes, he's spent quite a lot of time and effort trying to make contact with the Outsider with little success.




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** Except Dunwall is not the only city in the Empire of the Isles. Even though Dunwall was the most advanced city, there's nothing that indicates the other cities don't practice whaling as well. Also, the "golden age" the Outsider talk about in the Low Chaos ending may also involve finding alternative power sources and lowering reliance on whales.




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** The Outsider is really not THAT concerned with the world, since he practically predates it. He just finds empowering certain individuals with magic to see what they do with it entertaining. It's only when Emily's safety is threatened that the Outsider even so much as gives a vague order to somebody to do something about it, and that's more likely because it's heavily implied Emily is TheChosenOne.




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** It also could have started with Jessamine first came to power. By that point, Burrows and much of Dunwall's elite were starting to become corrupt under her nose, and the Empire's form of government is actually a constitutional monarchy. With the Pendletons seizing control of the Parliament, and Burrows being able to do almost whatever he wants without any oversight as the Royal Spymaster, it's easy to see how corrupt officials could go around Jessamine's back and oppress the populace despite her good intentions.




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* It seems more like the other way around, and the Outsider is passing ideas to Piero. Remember, the Outsider is practically omniscient, omnipotent, and all powerful. Why would he need a mortal's help in figuring out how to trap a soul in a jar?




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** The Outsider's primary motivation for gifting people with powers is just to see what they do with them. The Outsider is not interested in Sokolov because he's utterly predictable. He knows that if Sokolov got powers, he'd try to study, analyze, and replicate them like any other science experiment, so the Outsider just doesn't bother.



[[WMG: Or, even more extremely, Delilah is the REAL inheritor of the throne.]]
Going with the above [=WMGs=], Delilah may have possibly been the real Kaldwin heir, but was silently replaced by Jessamine who was either an illegitimate child or a straight up impostor. This would also explain why she was so bitter against Jessamine and why she wanted the throne so badly, because ''it really did belong to her.''




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* Actually, the Outsider, having once been a powerless human who was taken advantage of by the powerful, has a soft spot for the underdog, which is why he grants powers to people who are at their lowest points. The Outsider most likely took offense to Delilah using his gifts to forcibly control an innocent and defenseless child. Not to mention that he was probably planning on gifting Emily in the future, if Dishonored 2 is any indication.




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** Really, it's not a matter about "winning". The Outsider just does what he does to see how events take their course.




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* Jossed. WordOfGod confirms the Outsider used to be human and now acts as an avatar for the Void. He's still his old human persona, but with god-like power, why would you waste effort walking?



Because she is the last remaining blood relative/descendant [[spoiler:of the poor outcast 15 year old boy he used to be thousands of years ago. His lingering humanity still has a soft spot for family.]]

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Because she is the last remaining blood relative/descendant [[spoiler:of the poor outcast 15 year old boy he used to be thousands of years ago. His lingering humanity still has a soft spot for family.]]]]

[[WMG: Daud will make a reappearance in Dishonored 2]]
If Daud spared Billie in ''The Knife of Dunwall'', Billie leaves behind a book of possible locations Daud can retire to in ''The Witches of Brigmore''. One of these listed locations is Karnaca, and we also know that Daud was originally from Serkanos, where Karnaca is located. Since it appears that the Low Chaos route is the canonical route, it would be possible that Emily and Corvo may run into a (possibly) retired Daud.
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