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* Yet they are still different in one important respect: Ed sacrificed everything for the sake of his child, while He-Is (albeit unintentionally) sacrificed his child for his own demon-fueled ambitions. Perhaps what really allowed Ed to kill He-Is was being the superior father of the two.
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[[WMG: Shadowchild is one of the unnamed shadow-creatures from ''VideoGame/{{Journey}}'']]
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* Maybe ''VideoGame/{{Journey}}'' ''VideoGame/Journey2012'' takes place in Webcomic/{{Digger}}'s ''Webcomic/{{Digger}}'''s far future, and the shadow race are descendants of Shadowchild, [[spoiler: who taught demons how to be good. The species could be a distant result of her work.]]
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** Pretty much confirmed by Boneclaw Mother in the last few pages. She says she can't do anything for Skin-Painter anymore but will mention a distant relative named Ed who bravely fell in battle with a demon to her tribe.
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** Jossed by the profiles of the hyena elders in the omnibus edition. Owl Caller is referred to as her occasional paramour.
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[[WMG: Only Ed could kill He-Is because they are linked]]
There's a curious symmetry isn't there? Like He-Is Ed attempted to kill his mate, was banished and had his name eaten. Helix stated that magic bindings and the like had backdoors based on descent. Who else could kill the god but one of his clan who had suffered as he had suffered?
There's a curious symmetry isn't there? Like He-Is Ed attempted to kill his mate, was banished and had his name eaten. Helix stated that magic bindings and the like had backdoors based on descent. Who else could kill the god but one of his clan who had suffered as he had suffered?
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She looks ''exactly'' like them, except she doesn't have a cloak- but that's likely because she hasn't begun her own journey yet.
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She looks ''exactly'' like them, except she doesn't have a cloak- but cloak--but that's likely because she hasn't begun her own journey yet.
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She looks ''exactly'' like them, except she doesn't have a cloak- but that's likely because she hasn't begun her own journey yet.
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[[WMG: EdWill Die]]will die]]
She looks ''exactly'' like them, except she doesn't have a cloak- but that's likely because she hasn't begun her own journey yet.
* Maybe {{Journey}} takes place in {{Digger}}'s far future, and the shadow race are descendants of Shadowchild, [[spoiler: who taught demons how to be good. The species could be a distant result of her work.]]
[[WMG: Ed
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[[WMG:The God's heart is a {{Evil Plan}}.]]
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[[WMG:The God's heart is a {{Evil Plan}}.BatmanGambit.]]
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Destroying the heart will release the {{Sealed Evil in a Can}}, and Digger and co. will have to stop it.
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Destroying the heart will release the {{Sealed Evil in a Can}}, SealedEvilInACan, and Digger and co. will have to stop it.
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* Unlikely, skin-painter is more a job description than a name (skin-painter as a surname might work, after all there are plenty of Smiths, Fletchers, etc. around these days).
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* What else was there left to destroy? Besides, although He-Is was a hyena god, he was bound by humans, dwarves and wombats, so it's more than possible that their belief (or the heart containing the soul or whatever) overrode the hyena one.
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..But in a manner that restores his honor with the tribe, and in death he will be given the proper rituals. We'll find out his name, to boot. After all the talk of He Is and the coincidences of Ed's past... plus, it;d be one hell of a reason for a CmoA
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..But in a manner that restores his honor with the tribe, and in death he will be given the proper rituals. We'll find out his name, to boot. After all the talk of He Is and the coincidences of Ed's past... plus, it;d it'd be one hell of a reason for a CmoA[=CmoA=]
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** Possibly confirmed by Boneclaw Mother?
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** [[spoiler:... Confirmed...[[spoiler:Confirmed.]]
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** [[spoiler:... Confirmed...]]
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[[WMG: Ed's eaten name is Hare-caller.]]
Utterly random, I admit, but Hares keep springing up in the Hyena mythology, and his only known male relative is a [something] -Caller.
Utterly random, I admit, but Hares keep springing up in the Hyena mythology, and his only known male relative is a [something] -Caller.
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Looks like there ''really'' is '''something''' wrong with SGV, the heart and the liver.
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Very unlikely, if Blood-Eyes was "lucky" Ed would have mentioned it in little-skin painter's story. She seemed to be obsessed with the fact that her mate was lucky. We also know that madness is common in the tribe(apparently among females), and lucky children are not. And Ed's a first born child and he doesn't seem to have mental problems (though he DOES talk weird...).
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Very unlikely, if Blood-Eyes was "lucky" Ed would have mentioned it in little-skin painter's story. She seemed to be obsessed with the fact that her mate was lucky. We also know that madness is common in the tribe(apparently among females), and lucky children are not. And Ed's a first born child and he doesn't seem to have mental problems (though he DOES talk weird...).
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** Ed talks weird because he hasn't spoken at all in seventeen years.
** Ed talks weird because he hasn't spoken at all in seventeen years.
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** Boneclaw Mother specifically states that all her brothers are dead in the oath she gives as she adopts Digger, so definitively {{Jossed}}. A far nastier but still plausible possibility is...
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** Yep: Boneclaw Mother specifically states that all her brothers are dead in the oath she gives as she adopts Digger, so definitively {{Jossed}}. A far nastier but still plausible possibility is...
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[[WMG: The Hyenas language does not differentiate between Grandmother and ''Great''-grandmother or Great-''aunt''. Boneclaw Mother is Blood-Mare’s ''[[LukeIAmYourFather mother]]'' or Blood-Mare’s ''[[BigScrewedUpFamily sister]]''.
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[[WMG: The Hyenas language does not differentiate between Grandmother and ''Great''-grandmother or Great-''aunt''. Boneclaw Mother is Blood-Mare’s ''[[LukeIAmYourFather mother]]'' or Blood-Mare’s ''[[BigScrewedUpFamily sister]]''.]]
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In the character profiles it's stated that Grim Eyes is the grand daughter of Boneclaw mother, and it's almost confirmed that Ed is Grim Eyes's father, Yes? Okey, we do know that Boneclaw mother is not the mother of Blood Eyes (Grim Eyes's mother), that was Blood mare. So that would mean that Boneclaw mother should be Grim Eyes's paternal grand mother, Ed's mother. Now, from Ed's story we know that Owl Caller is his maternal Uncle ("Only mother's brother, Owl Caller, bothers say go anymore"), which means he is Boneclaw Mother's brother. (Augh! so confusing, we need a Family Tree!)
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In the character profiles it's stated that Grim Eyes is the grand daughter of Boneclaw mother, and it's almost confirmed that Ed is Grim Eyes's father, Yes? Okey, we do know that Boneclaw mother is not the mother of Blood Eyes (Grim Eyes's mother), that was Blood mare.Mare. So that would mean that Boneclaw mother should be Grim Eyes's paternal grand mother, Ed's mother. Now, from Ed's story we know that Owl Caller is his maternal Uncle ("Only mother's brother, Owl Caller, bothers say go anymore"), which means he is Boneclaw Mother's brother. (Augh! so confusing, we need a Family Tree!)
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[[WMG: The Hyenas language does not differentiate between Grandmother and ''Great''-grandmother or Great-''aunt''. Boneclaw Mother is Blood-Mare’s ''[[LukeIAmYourFather mother]]'' or Blood-Mare’s ''[[BigScrewedUpFamily sister]]''.
It then follows that Blood Tail and Blood-Eyes are/were Boneclaw Mothers granddaughters / nieces, and Grim Eyes is her great-granddaughter/ grand-niece. It would explain why Boneclaw mother party blames herself for Blood-Mare and Blood-Tail’s malice/ Blood-Eyes insanity, and it explains the telling line “ I was glad when she [Blood-mare] finally died: it is a sin to admit it, but her death came as a '''''great''''' relief to me.”
[[WMG: Blood-Eyes was a first born child: lack of oxygen to her brain during birth at least partly caused her mental problems later in life.]]
[[WMG: The Hyenas language does not differentiate between Grandmother and ''Great''-grandmother or Great-''aunt''. Boneclaw Mother is Blood-Mare’s ''[[LukeIAmYourFather mother]]'' or Blood-Mare’s ''[[BigScrewedUpFamily sister]]''.
It then follows that Blood Tail and Blood-Eyes are/were Boneclaw Mothers granddaughters / nieces, and Grim Eyes is her great-granddaughter/ grand-niece. It would explain why Boneclaw mother party blames herself for Blood-Mare and Blood-Tail’s malice/ Blood-Eyes insanity, and it explains the telling line “ I was glad when she [Blood-mare] finally died: it is a sin to admit it, but her death came as a '''''great''''' relief to me.”
[[WMG: Blood-Eyes was a first born child: lack of oxygen to her brain during birth at least partly caused her mental problems later in life.]]
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** Also Digger's Hyena name is "Little Mother of Earthquakes". But there again, she doesn't have a Hyena mother and father to pull from, and her adoption was a unique situation to say the least.
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* Possibly {{Jossed}} - she specifically mentions that her brothers are all dead when adopting [[strike:Digger]] Little Mother of Earthquakes, and calls Owl Caller "old friend" instead of "brother". On the other hand, if the Hyenas follow matrilinal views of descent (not an unreasonable guess), they may not consider your father's-sisters to be your aunts at all: only mother's-sisters. So while most/pretty much all of the audience would see Boneclaw as Grim Eyes' grandmother if the above is correct, the Hyenas themselves might not.
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* I reckon Bone and Claw make up her name, and being called Mother has to do with being the eldest. Admittedly the names aren't consistently hyphenated, compounded, or spaced...
* I found a possible monkey wrench in this WMG - apparently one of the elders is named Stone-in-the-Ear. Of course, Shadebones calls her that right before saying they should just go with what Boneclaw's decided, so it could also be a lighthearted insult among equals, I suppose.
* I found a possible monkey wrench in this WMG - apparently one of the elders is named Stone-in-the-Ear. Of course, Shadebones calls her that right before saying they should just go with what Boneclaw's decided, so it could also be a lighthearted insult among equals, I suppose.
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*Or maybe Grim Caller? or Grim Owl? Or look below to the theory that says that he is Boneclaw mother's son, maybe Boneclaw something?
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In the character profiles it's stated that Grim Eyes is the grand daughter of Boneclaw mother, and it's almost confirmed that Ed is Grim Eyes's father, Yes? Okey, we do know that Boneclaw mother is not the mother of Blood Eyes(Grim Eyes's mother), that was Blood mare. So that would mean that Boneclaw mother should be Grim eyes's paternal grand mother, Ed's mother. Now, from Ed's story we know that Owl Caller is his maternal Uncle("Only mother's brother, Owl Caller, bothers say go anymore"), which means he is Boneclaw Mother's brother. (Augh! so confusing, we need a Family Tree!)
In the character profiles it's stated that Grim Eyes is the grand daughter of Boneclaw mother, and it's almost confirmed that Ed is Grim Eyes's father, Yes? Okey, we do know that Boneclaw mother is not the mother of Blood Eyes(Grim Eyes's mother), that was Blood mare. So that would mean that Boneclaw mother should be Grim eyes's paternal grand mother, Ed's mother. Now, from Ed's story we know that Owl Caller is his maternal Uncle("Only mother's brother, Owl Caller, bothers say go anymore"), which means he is Boneclaw Mother's brother. (Augh! so confusing, we need a Family Tree!)
