History WMG / DevilMayCry

5th Jan '17 11:34:19 AM SeptimusHeap
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Dante has already been to Hell and back (no pun intended); his mother was killed (by demons that were believed to have been sent by Mundus) when Dante was only a young child, causing Dante and Vergil to become erstwhile twins (Dante becoming a HunterOfHisOwnKind so that he could hit the Jackpot and bring justice to whoever killed his mom, Vergil trying to gain power [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation so that he would never have to suffer like that again]]). While Vergil apparently idolized Sparda to some degree, Dante's OedipusComplex had grown to such immense levels that he flat-out denied the existence of his dad during his first fight with Vergil in ''Devil May Cry 3''. It doesn't help that Dante was drawn to Trish almost ''solely'' [[FreudWasRight because of her resemblance to Eva]] (and the endgame cutscenes came ''this'' close to making me believe that he and Trish were going to become the OfficialCouple). While Lady seems to be [[BelligerentSexualTension a bit less drawn to Dante]], the subtext is still there (the first three games each set up the leading lady as a possible love interest for Dante; plus, the breathing space between Dante and Lady after their fight was a bit too close for comfort). At the very least, the relationship between Dante and his ladyfriends is a very strong platonic bond. Dante had already believed Vergil to be dead after ''3'' and cried for him although he had previously lived by the mantra of "Devils never cry." Then, when Nelo Angelo died, Dante realized that his brother, the ''only'' remaining family he had in the world (excluding Trish, a clone of his mom, and Nero, his nephew who he didn't even know existed until ''Devil May Cry 4'' and is still completely unaware of their ''full'' relationship), had been KilledOffForReal. The trauma of losing a sibling must have been hard to take, but Dante probably surmounted this due to the close ties he had with Trish and Lady.

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Dante has already been to Hell and back (no pun intended); his mother was killed (by demons that were believed to have been sent by Mundus) when Dante was only a young child, causing Dante and Vergil to become erstwhile twins (Dante becoming a HunterOfHisOwnKind so that he could hit the Jackpot and bring justice to whoever killed his mom, Vergil trying to gain power [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation so that he would never have to suffer like that again]]). While Vergil apparently idolized Sparda to some degree, Dante's OedipusComplex had grown to such immense levels that he flat-out denied the existence of his dad during his first fight with Vergil in ''Devil May Cry 3''. It doesn't help that Dante was drawn to Trish almost ''solely'' [[FreudWasRight because of her resemblance to Eva]] Eva (and the endgame cutscenes came ''this'' close to making me believe that he and Trish were going to become the OfficialCouple). While Lady seems to be [[BelligerentSexualTension a bit less drawn to Dante]], the subtext is still there (the first three games each set up the leading lady as a possible love interest for Dante; plus, the breathing space between Dante and Lady after their fight was a bit too close for comfort). At the very least, the relationship between Dante and his ladyfriends is a very strong platonic bond. Dante had already believed Vergil to be dead after ''3'' and cried for him although he had previously lived by the mantra of "Devils never cry." Then, when Nelo Angelo died, Dante realized that his brother, the ''only'' remaining family he had in the world (excluding Trish, a clone of his mom, and Nero, his nephew who he didn't even know existed until ''Devil May Cry 4'' and is still completely unaware of their ''full'' relationship), had been KilledOffForReal. The trauma of losing a sibling must have been hard to take, but Dante probably surmounted this due to the close ties he had with Trish and Lady.



* So, the Sparda sword's true power is awakened if the amulet (Eva) and the blade (Sparda's power) become one?... [[FreudWasRight Good grief]]... Back on track, this theory may be moot, seeing as Hideki Kamiya is no longer with Capcom, so his WordOfGod (such as VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}} being able to wipe the floor with Dante, or Eva's backstory as a witch, or the above WMG) won't necessarily be the ''true'' WordOfGod for the series.

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* So, the Sparda sword's true power is awakened if the amulet (Eva) and the blade (Sparda's power) become one?... [[FreudWasRight Good grief]]...grief... Back on track, this theory may be moot, seeing as Hideki Kamiya is no longer with Capcom, so his WordOfGod (such as VideoGame/{{Bayonetta}} being able to wipe the floor with Dante, or Eva's backstory as a witch, or the above WMG) won't necessarily be the ''true'' WordOfGod for the series.
29th Dec '16 5:38:24 PM DustSnitch
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...Nelo Angelo's arm. Agnus mentioned that the Order of the Sword had studied a powerful demon-arm and that was the source of their powers. Somehow Sanctus and his followers salvaged Yamato and fragments of Nelo Angelo (Vergil) from the remains of Mallet Island and used them to build their power, but then Sanctus comes up with a back-up plan as construction of their ''Saviour'' nears completion. What if they can't get Dante to form the Saviour's core? They'll need a back-up, so Sanctus selects a young and expendable member of the order for an experiment. If it fails, no one of importance was lost. If it suceeds, the new Sparda-hybrid should be easy enough to manipulate. And so, after Nero is severely injured Sanctus has his arm amputated and the arm of Nelo Angelo grafted in it's place, blaming it's demonic appearance on side-effects of his demon attack. Sanctus just didn't anticipate how {{Badass}} Nero would become with the power of a son of Sparda now his to control.

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...Nelo Angelo's arm. Agnus mentioned that the Order of the Sword had studied a powerful demon-arm and that was the source of their powers. Somehow Sanctus and his followers salvaged Yamato and fragments of Nelo Angelo (Vergil) from the remains of Mallet Island and used them to build their power, but then Sanctus comes up with a back-up plan as construction of their ''Saviour'' nears completion. What if they can't get Dante to form the Saviour's core? They'll need a back-up, so Sanctus selects a young and expendable member of the order for an experiment. If it fails, no one of importance was lost. If it suceeds, the new Sparda-hybrid should be easy enough to manipulate. And so, after Nero is severely injured Sanctus has his arm amputated and the arm of Nelo Angelo grafted in it's place, blaming it's demonic appearance on side-effects of his demon attack. Sanctus just didn't anticipate how {{Badass}} badass Nero would become with the power of a son of Sparda now his to control.
24th Dec '16 4:06:42 AM smithkakarot
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[[WMG: "Tony Redgrave" is an alias that both Dante and Sparda used at different points]]
Would explain why both Dante's and Sparda's guns carry the "For Tony Redgrave" inscription...
17th Nov '16 2:39:33 PM Sally777
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[[WMG: Nero is an Umbran Witch.]]
As a Tweet from Kamiya reveals, it seems like men can become Umbran Witches and females can serve as Lumen Sages. This, combined with how Nero's Devil Trigger and Devil Bringer manifests almost exactly like Umbran Climax and Wicked Weaves, seems to give the impression that Nero had managed to become an Umbran Witch. The only two questions left to be answered is "who is his Contract Demon" and "why can't he make use of Witch Time"? The first answer is basically [[spoiler: Vergil, or at least whatever is left of him. Notice how Nero's Devil Trigger looks almost entirely like Vergil when he was Nelo Angelo.]]. The second question isn't spoilery to answer: Nero doesn't have an Umbran Watch, which seems to give most Umbran witches their ability to manipulate time, hence why he doesn't have the capability to.
24th Sep '16 11:31:49 AM nombretomado
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Think about the similarities. From Blade, he gets the job of hunting evil supernatural creatures, fact that half of his biology is made up of the creature he hunts (Dante is half-demon because his father was a demon and Blade is half-vampire because his mother was bitten by a vampire immediately before giving birth to him.) and that he wears a BadassLongcoat also comes from Blade. From Deadpool, he gets his wise-cracks, his mercenary occupation, and his red costume. But he also inherits a few attributes that the both of them share: mastery of swords and guns, [[HealingFactor regenerative abilities]], and the fact that he finishes off his foes in a really stylish and cool way. The reason that he is an alternate universe combination of these two is because of Capcom's crossover with Marvel around the year 2000 (''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom2''), affected the Capcom world. Although these two characters were not included in the game, Blade was gaining massive popularity due to his new fims and Deadpool's new ongoing series really made the character a hit. The popularity of these two somehow leaked into the Capcom world and influenced the creation of Dante which happened a year or two after, making many things about him similar to these characters. Years later, Dante finally made it into a CapcomVsWhatever game where the company was reunited with Marvel, and his main rival is Deadpool. The reason for this is that where Blade slipped down the ranking and has become a B-list character recently, Deadpool has continued to gain support and has become the face of Marvel (sorta). Now, his connection to Deadpool is stronger than his to Blade.

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Think about the similarities. From Blade, he gets the job of hunting evil supernatural creatures, fact that half of his biology is made up of the creature he hunts (Dante is half-demon because his father was a demon and Blade is half-vampire because his mother was bitten by a vampire immediately before giving birth to him.) and that he wears a BadassLongcoat also comes from Blade. From Deadpool, he gets his wise-cracks, his mercenary occupation, and his red costume. But he also inherits a few attributes that the both of them share: mastery of swords and guns, [[HealingFactor regenerative abilities]], and the fact that he finishes off his foes in a really stylish and cool way. The reason that he is an alternate universe combination of these two is because of Capcom's crossover with Marvel around the year 2000 (''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom2''), affected the Capcom world. Although these two characters were not included in the game, Blade was gaining massive popularity due to his new fims and Deadpool's new ongoing series really made the character a hit. The popularity of these two somehow leaked into the Capcom world and influenced the creation of Dante which happened a year or two after, making many things about him similar to these characters. Years later, Dante finally made it into a CapcomVsWhatever VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever game where the company was reunited with Marvel, and his main rival is Deadpool. The reason for this is that where Blade slipped down the ranking and has become a B-list character recently, Deadpool has continued to gain support and has become the face of Marvel (sorta). Now, his connection to Deadpool is stronger than his to Blade.
9th Jul '16 2:18:14 PM superboy313
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Because [[CrazyAwesome why the fuck not?]]

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\n* Because [[CrazyAwesome why the fuck not?]]not?]]

[[WMG: Mundus will return as the BigBad of [=DMC5=].]]
One thing for sure, he's gonna want revenge on Dante.
3rd Jun '16 9:50:28 AM nombretomado
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This came to [[Tropers/X2X me]] in bits and pieces after playing both ''Devil May Cry 2'' and ''ViewtifulJoe''. For Dante's [[CanonDiscontinuity noncanon]], [[SecretCharacter guest]] appearance in the latter, Trish asks if Enzo "stole [Dante's] clothes again." This seemingly implies that Dante's major change of character in the game was due to Enzo impersonating him (and as such could be a LampshadeHanging on why ''Viewtiful Joe'' [[TheOtherDarrin brought back Dante's DMC 1 voice actor]] (despite the fact that the PS2 version of ''Viewtiful Joe'' came out a year after ''2''). Obviously, this half-baked explanation could only be taken with a grain of salt.

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This came to [[Tropers/X2X me]] in bits and pieces after playing both ''Devil May Cry 2'' and ''ViewtifulJoe''. For Dante's [[CanonDiscontinuity noncanon]], [[SecretCharacter guest]] appearance in the latter, Trish asks if Enzo "stole [Dante's] clothes again." This seemingly implies that Dante's major change of character in the game was due to Enzo impersonating him (and as such could be a LampshadeHanging on why ''Viewtiful Joe'' [[TheOtherDarrin brought back Dante's DMC 1 voice actor]] (despite the fact that the PS2 [=PS2=] version of ''Viewtiful Joe'' came out a year after ''2''). Obviously, this half-baked explanation could only be taken with a grain of salt.
28th Apr '16 7:43:27 AM ToxicPenguin
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* Vergil's his dad
28th Feb '16 9:16:51 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Dante is an alternate universe combination of {{Blade}} [[MarvelUniverse and]] {{Deadpool}}.]]

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[[WMG: Dante is an alternate universe combination of {{Blade}} ComicBook/{{Blade}} [[MarvelUniverse and]] {{Deadpool}}.SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}.]]
19th Sep '15 5:03:17 PM res20stupid
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[[WMG: Capcom have been lying to us - DMC2 takes place before 4, not after]]
Dante found his way out of Hell and met up with Lady and Trish. While he was gone, the Order of the Sword were gathering Devil Arms (and may have raided his store). Lucia doesn't appear because she's back with Matier helping to rebuild after Oroborus heavily damaged the ways of life on their island. And I know you guys think this is stupid, but jut remember...

Doesn't Dante look older in DMC4 than he does in 2?

As for how he got out of Hell, [[NoodleIncident well]]...

[[WMG: Capcom will end up having to hire Platinum Games to develop a new DMC]]
Or possibly publish Bayonetta 3 when it comes around.

Because [[CrazyAwesome why the fuck not?]]
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