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9th May '18 10:06:02 AM CaptEquinox
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*** Metaphysical theses have been composed on the theory of Lovecraft's imagination being fueled by family mental illness. Biographers Joshi and Poole's examination of the available evidence has cleared up a lot of misconceptions. Winfield's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_paresis_of_the_insane psychosis was caused by syphilis he'd caught years before]]. There's no evidence that Susie caught the disease. HPL, age 2 1/2, wouldn't have witnessed his dad behaving strangely because it happened on a business trip and he was hospitalized directly. If he was told anything it was probably 'Papa's been working too hard'.[[note]]Both insanity and VD were ''extremely'' hushed up at the time, and 189s doctors were just catching onto the fact that syphilis causes insanity decades after infection - it was proved in 1913. Winfield was a known workaholic, so his illness could conveniently be attributed to that.[[/note]]. Poole thinks it did affect him in that he probably caught on that ''something'' was going on (something whispered about, something ''nameless'').\\\
Susie's severe anxiety and panic attacks started after Winfield's death and especially her father's, when the family lost all their money[[note]]HPL wrote later of having a more or less idyllic early childhood that ''became'' crappy when they had to sell their house[[/note]]. She spoke openly about things that frightened her. But she was not the lunatic she's been portrayed. She taught HPL to read and write, supported and even joined in all his interests. In that era, "insane" women were those who violated the status quo.[[note]]Susie was an artist, a fan of French literature and a women's rights activist. That alone was enough to label her "mentally unbalanced" for that time period.[[/note]] In other words, don't believe everything Winfield Townley Scott and Clara Hess say about her. There were incidents that couldn't be helped, like his aunts marrying and moving away, or the family's deep mourning attire that terrified him when his grandmother died -- his abduction by night-gaunts started at that time. But he had other steady, loving family members -- Grandma Robie got him interested in astronomy and his Aunt Lillian in chemistry. His grandfather, who loved ghost stories, set especially lasting examples, even cured him of being afraid of the dark! The wonder is not that he came from a "haunted" background but what he ''did'' with it.

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*** Metaphysical theses have been composed on the theory of Lovecraft's imagination being fueled by family mental illness. Biographers S.T. Joshi and Poole's examination of W. Scott Poole have examined the available evidence has and cleared up a lot of misconceptions. Winfield's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_paresis_of_the_insane psychosis was caused by syphilis he'd caught years before]]. There's no evidence that Susie caught the disease. HPL, age 2 1/2, wouldn't have witnessed his dad behaving strangely because it happened on a business trip and he was hospitalized directly. If he was told anything it was probably 'Papa's been working too hard'.[[note]]Both insanity and VD were ''extremely'' hushed up at the time, and 189s doctors time (1890s). Doctors of that era were just catching onto the fact that syphilis causes insanity decades after infection - it was proved in 1913. Winfield was a known workaholic, so his illness could conveniently be attributed to that.[[/note]]. Poole thinks it did affect him in that he probably caught on that ''something'' was going on (something whispered about, something ''nameless'').\\\
Susie's severe anxiety and panic attacks started after Winfield's death and especially her father's, when the family lost all most of their money[[note]]HPL wrote later of having a more or less idyllic early childhood that ''became'' crappy when they had to sell their house[[/note]]. She spoke openly about things that frightened her. But she was not the lunatic she's been portrayed. She taught HPL to read and write, supported and even joined in all his interests. In that era, "insane" women were those who violated the status quo.[[note]]Susie was an artist, a fan of French literature and a women's rights activist. That alone was enough to label her "mentally unbalanced" for that time period.[[/note]] In other words, don't believe everything Winfield Townley Scott and Clara Hess say about her. There were Other incidents that couldn't be helped, like his aunts marrying and moving away, or the family's deep mourning attire that terrified him when his grandmother died -- his abduction by night-gaunts started at that time. But he had other steady, loving family members -- Grandma Robie had got him interested in astronomy and his Aunt Lillian in chemistry. His grandfather, who loved ghost stories, set especially lasting examples, even cured him of being afraid of the dark! The wonder is not that he came from a "haunted" background but what he ''did'' with it.
7th May '18 3:37:09 AM CaptEquinox
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\n*** Agreed. Depression or dysthymia seem to be the closest possible fit. The best way to judge HPL's mental state is by his letters. He wrote his fictional works for money and his letters clearly emphasize he was consciously making it up. See above for dissertation on Susie Lovecraft.
20th Apr '18 10:17:36 AM heatnini
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In general, Nyalrathotep is depicted as the most petty, or, one might say, CHILDISH, of his pantheon. It's been said that if humans are insects to them, he's a kid who passes his time by terrorizing an anthill. So, why is this? Because, as Outer Gods go, that's exactly what he is. Azathoth created the universe as an incubator for his children, and Nyalrathotep is the youngest. Yog-Sothoth is either his eldest sibling or [[BizarreSexualDimorphism his other parent]]. Shub-Nigurath, Daoloth and the rest are teenagers, somewhere between Nyalrathotep and Azathoth in ther species' life cycle.

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In general, Nyalrathotep is depicted as the most petty, or, one might say, CHILDISH, of his pantheon. It's been said that if humans are insects to them, he's a kid who passes his time by terrorizing an anthill. So, why is this? Because, as Outer Gods go, that's exactly what he is. Azathoth created the universe as an incubator for his children, and Nyalrathotep is the youngest. Yog-Sothoth is either his eldest sibling or [[BizarreSexualDimorphism his other parent]]. Shub-Nigurath, Daoloth and the rest are teenagers, somewhere between Nyalrathotep and Azathoth in ther species' life cycle.cycle.

[[WMG: You can`t PunchOutChtulu but you can deal him into a huma n.]]
Interesting story idea. Basically we have this dude calling her Alister and she fights EldrichAbominations by making deals with the other gods. So Alister makes a real with like one of Nyartholeps bosses to seal Nyar into a baby. So that baby is an amnesiac Nyartholep.
6th Apr '18 6:00:33 PM zephyran
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[[WMG: Ephraim Waite transgendered himself.]]
Anyone who's [[{{Transsexual}} trans]] can tell you how ''incredibly'' uncomfortable it is to be in a body that's the wrong sex. This would explain "Asenath's" infamous comment about women's brains being inferior - Ephraim just couldn't figure out what was wrong here. Although considering Asenath was a HalfHumanHybrid that would eventually [[Literature/TheShadowOverInnsmouth mutate]], he was gonna eventually end up with a body that was both the wrong sex ''and'' the wrong damn ''species''. Kinda makes you wonder how well he thought this out.

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[[WMG: Ephraim Waite transgendered himself.is transgender.]]
Anyone who's [[{{Transsexual}} [[{{Transgender}} trans]] can tell you how ''incredibly'' uncomfortable it is to be in a body that's the wrong sex. This would explain "Asenath's" infamous comment about women's brains being inferior - Ephraim just couldn't figure out what was wrong here. Although considering Asenath was a HalfHumanHybrid that would eventually [[Literature/TheShadowOverInnsmouth mutate]], he was gonna eventually end up with a body that was both the wrong sex ''and'' the wrong damn ''species''. Kinda makes you wonder how well he thought this out.
25th Feb '18 4:39:20 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: {{Shadowgirls}} theory about Lovecraft is true]]

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[[WMG: {{Shadowgirls}} Webcomic/{{Shadowgirls}} theory about Lovecraft is true]]
29th Oct '17 9:57:47 AM Parthidens
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* It may also be worth noting that, before he goes on a rampage, Cthulhu is described as communicating with early humans. He comes across as almost benevolent, being interested in sharing ideas and a planet with us. It could just be that when he (briefly) emerged from his city in the early 20th century, his multi-dimensional body hadn't properly 'stabilised', so instead of being rational and sensible, he was ruled by animal instincts. Given more time for his body to properly prepare itself after thousands of years of slumber, Cthulhu could have emerged as a sane and lucid octopus-faced dragon thing instead of a slobbering monster.
22nd Oct '17 11:41:34 AM nombretomado
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Azathoth is said to be the avatar or focal point of the cosmic forces of the physical world. As such, he is a force of nature & therefore mindless. Some sources say that Nyarlathotep is Azathoth's disembodied consciousness, however. This could be because he is the avatar of Lovecraft's Dreamlands, a world made from the [[CarlJung collective unconscious]] of all intelligent life, in a way, the "consciousness" of the universe. Since intelligent life is so rare in the vast cosmos he is so much smaller & less powerful than Azathoth, but infinitely more versatile & dangerous. This also handily explains why he is the most humanlike of Lovecraft's cosmic monsters, because in a way he is part human.

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Azathoth is said to be the avatar or focal point of the cosmic forces of the physical world. As such, he is a force of nature & therefore mindless. Some sources say that Nyarlathotep is Azathoth's disembodied consciousness, however. This could be because he is the avatar of Lovecraft's Dreamlands, a world made from the [[CarlJung [[UsefulNotes/CarlJung collective unconscious]] of all intelligent life, in a way, the "consciousness" of the universe. Since intelligent life is so rare in the vast cosmos he is so much smaller & less powerful than Azathoth, but infinitely more versatile & dangerous. This also handily explains why he is the most humanlike of Lovecraft's cosmic monsters, because in a way he is part human.
29th Sep '17 8:29:37 PM Doug86
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[[WMG: Franchise/TheDCU, The Franchise/MarvelUniverse, The MortalKombat {{multiverse}}/[[TheVerse universe]], The Franchise/{{Whoniverse}}, [[Franchise/TransformersGeneration1 the]] [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated various]] Franchise/{{Transformers}} [[Anime/TransformersArmada conti]][[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime nu]][[VideoGame/TransformersWarForCybertron it]][[Film/{{Transformers}} ies]] and of course the CthulhuMythos ([[SerialEscalation not to mention the near endless continuities]] that are either part of or [[EpilepticTrees Thought to be connected to]] it) share a common [[MegaCrossover multiverse]] or possibly some kind of [[WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd "Ultraverse" or "Megaverse"]] that [[MoreThanInfinite contains]] [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment multiple]] [[MoreThanInfinite multiverses]].]]

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[[WMG: Franchise/TheDCU, The Franchise/MarvelUniverse, The MortalKombat {{multiverse}}/[[TheVerse universe]], The Franchise/{{Whoniverse}}, [[Franchise/TransformersGeneration1 the]] [[WesternAnimation/TransformersAnimated various]] Franchise/{{Transformers}} [[Anime/TransformersArmada conti]][[WesternAnimation/TransformersPrime nu]][[VideoGame/TransformersWarForCybertron it]][[Film/{{Transformers}} ies]] and of course the CthulhuMythos Cthulhu Mythos ([[SerialEscalation not to mention the near endless continuities]] that are either part of or [[EpilepticTrees Thought to be connected to]] it) share a common [[MegaCrossover multiverse]] or possibly some kind of [[WebVideo/TheAngryVideoGameNerd "Ultraverse" or "Megaverse"]] that [[MoreThanInfinite contains]] [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment multiple]] [[MoreThanInfinite multiverses]].]]



** The CthulhuMythos is the MirrorUniverse of Literature/TheBible-instead of [[GodIsGood benevolent]]([[GodIsEvil or malevolent]]) EldritchAbomination that [[DidYouJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu wants to have a relationship with us]], we have a [[BlueAndOrangeMorality incomprehensible]] EldritchAbomination that [[InsignificantBluePlanet sees us as a sand particle on the beach.]]

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** The CthulhuMythos Cthulhu Mythos is the MirrorUniverse of Literature/TheBible-instead of [[GodIsGood benevolent]]([[GodIsEvil or malevolent]]) EldritchAbomination that [[DidYouJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu wants to have a relationship with us]], we have a [[BlueAndOrangeMorality incomprehensible]] EldritchAbomination that [[InsignificantBluePlanet sees us as a sand particle on the beach.]]



Also, the voodoo sect the guy's cousin joined is the one from ''Call Of Cthulhu''. No reason other than it'd tie it into the CthulhuMythos.

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Also, the voodoo sect the guy's cousin joined is the one from ''Call Of Cthulhu''. No reason other than it'd tie it into the CthulhuMythos.
Cthulhu Mythos.



Shadowgirls, webcomics that makes big use of CthulhuMythos, has recently finished short story revealing that Lovecraft was a member of secret society of writers, who were gathering the knowledge about all kind of supernatural like aliens, vampires, werewolves or eldritch abominations and publishing them as fiction. If they would reveal their knowledge as truth, nobody would believe them, but if they claimed to made it up, their knowledge would survive in collective human memory as tropes - we know that stake and sunlight kills a vampire and silver bullet is fatal to the werewolf, because we read about it in books. Lovecraft himself has passed informations about how to deal with at last some of creatures his characters encounters - The Dream-Quest Of Unknown Kadath describes how to survive encounters with many creatures inhabiting Dream World and even how to get saved from Nyerlaotheph. His stories where monstrosities cannot be stopped serves as a warning for people so then can recognize early signs of those creatures when they see them and run.

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Shadowgirls, webcomics that makes big use of CthulhuMythos, Cthulhu Mythos, has recently finished short story revealing that Lovecraft was a member of secret society of writers, who were gathering the knowledge about all kind of supernatural like aliens, vampires, werewolves or eldritch abominations and publishing them as fiction. If they would reveal their knowledge as truth, nobody would believe them, but if they claimed to made it up, their knowledge would survive in collective human memory as tropes - we know that stake and sunlight kills a vampire and silver bullet is fatal to the werewolf, because we read about it in books. Lovecraft himself has passed informations about how to deal with at last some of creatures his characters encounters - The Dream-Quest Of Unknown Kadath describes how to survive encounters with many creatures inhabiting Dream World and even how to get saved from Nyerlaotheph. His stories where monstrosities cannot be stopped serves as a warning for people so then can recognize early signs of those creatures when they see them and run.



* (Pasted from DW Nightmare Fuel) Both the Doctor and the Master are charming, suave fellows with timetravelling capabilities, entirely alien biologies, the skill to charm the pants off ''anybody'', the power to change their face, masters of technology and engineering, and are both merciless killers who follow their own established order. Y'know who else fits that description? [[CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep]].

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* (Pasted from DW Nightmare Fuel) Both the Doctor and the Master are charming, suave fellows with timetravelling capabilities, entirely alien biologies, the skill to charm the pants off ''anybody'', the power to change their face, masters of technology and engineering, and are both merciless killers who follow their own established order. Y'know who else fits that description? [[CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep]].
Nyarlathotep.



[[FromNobodyToNightmare The Dark Pharaoh was Nyarlathotep's old human identity]] [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence before ascending to godhood]]. Related to the above "The Dark Pharaoh is Nyarlathotep's true form", The Dark Pharaoh only ruled an Egyptian kingdom (albeit as brutally and cruelly as you'd expect a future EldritchAbomination would), but eventually stumbled upon the legends of the Ancient Ones, and [[AGodAmI decided getting the powers of an Eldritch God was WAY too good to pass up]]. Cue one even-more-demonic-than-usual cultist ceremony, and The Dark Pharaoh became Nyarlathotep. Assuming this theory is true, it'd probably explain why Nyarlathotep is described as having the "soul" of the Ancient Ones, and is THE definitive GodOfEvil in the CthulhuMythos while the other Ancient Ones run on BlueAndOrangeMorality - [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters as a former human, Nyarlathotep still has a soul with him]], [[AmbitionIsEvil only one rendered black with an insatiable lust for power]], [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide and made even worse now that he has Eldritch god-powers at his fingertips]].

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[[FromNobodyToNightmare The Dark Pharaoh was Nyarlathotep's old human identity]] [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence before ascending to godhood]]. Related to the above "The Dark Pharaoh is Nyarlathotep's true form", The Dark Pharaoh only ruled an Egyptian kingdom (albeit as brutally and cruelly as you'd expect a future EldritchAbomination would), but eventually stumbled upon the legends of the Ancient Ones, and [[AGodAmI decided getting the powers of an Eldritch God was WAY too good to pass up]]. Cue one even-more-demonic-than-usual cultist ceremony, and The Dark Pharaoh became Nyarlathotep. Assuming this theory is true, it'd probably explain why Nyarlathotep is described as having the "soul" of the Ancient Ones, and is THE definitive GodOfEvil in the CthulhuMythos Cthulhu Mythos while the other Ancient Ones run on BlueAndOrangeMorality - [[HumansAreTheRealMonsters as a former human, Nyarlathotep still has a soul with him]], [[AmbitionIsEvil only one rendered black with an insatiable lust for power]], [[DrunkOnTheDarkSide and made even worse now that he has Eldritch god-powers at his fingertips]].
15th Sep '17 1:59:48 AM PaulA
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[[WMG:Nyarlathotep is the real mind behind the ''MyImmortal'' fan fiction as an attempt to drive the entire internet insane.]]

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[[WMG:Nyarlathotep is the real mind behind the ''MyImmortal'' ''Fanfic/MyImmortal'' fan fiction as an attempt to drive the entire internet insane.]]



* ''Sweet Ermengarde'' is Lovecraft's ''My Immortal''.

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* ''Sweet Ermengarde'' ''Literature/SweetErmengarde'' is Lovecraft's ''My Immortal''.Immortal''.
31st Aug '17 2:01:52 PM Piterpicher
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[[WMG: ''Homo sapiens sapiens'' is the result of Old Ones (or one of their servant races) [[AlienImpregnation impregnating]] hominids in the distant past]]

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[[WMG: ''Homo sapiens sapiens'' is the result of Old Ones (or one of their servant races) [[AlienImpregnation impregnating]] impregnating hominids in the distant past]]
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