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19th Apr '17 11:07:44 PM CaptEquinox
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Susie's severe anxiety and panic attacks started after Winfield's death and especially her father's, when the family lost all their money[[note]]HPL wrote later of having a more or less idyllic early childhood that ''became'' crappy when they had to sell their house[[/note]]. She spoke openly about things that frightened her. But she was not the lunatic she's been portrayed. She taught HPL to read and write, supported and even joined in all his interests. In that era, "insane" was the label for women who violated the status quo. In other words, don't believe everything Winfield Townley Scott and Clara Hess say about her. There were incidents that couldn't be helped, like his aunts marrying and moving away, or the family's deep mourning attire that terrified him when his grandmother died -- his abduction by night-gaunts started at that time. But he had other steady, loving family members -- Aunt Lillian got him into astronomy. His grandfather, the one who got him into ghost stories in the first place, set especially lasting examples, even cured him of being afraid of the dark! The wonder is not that he came from a "haunted" background but what he ''did'' with it.

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Susie's severe anxiety and panic attacks started after Winfield's death and especially her father's, when the family lost all their money[[note]]HPL wrote later of having a more or less idyllic early childhood that ''became'' crappy when they had to sell their house[[/note]]. She spoke openly about things that frightened her. But she was not the lunatic she's been portrayed. She taught HPL to read and write, supported and even joined in all his interests. In that era, "insane" was the label for women were those who violated the status quo. quo.[[note]]Susie was an artist, a fan of French literature and a women's rights activist. That alone was enough to label her "mentally unbalanced" for that time period.[[/note]] In other words, don't believe everything Winfield Townley Scott and Clara Hess say about her. There were incidents that couldn't be helped, like his aunts marrying and moving away, or the family's deep mourning attire that terrified him when his grandmother died -- his abduction by night-gaunts started at that time. But he had other steady, loving family members -- Grandma Robie got him interested in astronomy and his Aunt Lillian got him into astronomy. in chemistry. His grandfather, the one who got him into loved ghost stories in the first place, stories, set especially lasting examples, even cured him of being afraid of the dark! The wonder is not that he came from a "haunted" background but what he ''did'' with it.
16th Apr '17 7:57:39 PM CaptEquinox
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---> I am forever dreaming of strange barren landscapes, cliffs, stretches of ocean, & deserted cities with towers & domes. . . All this dreaming comes without the stimulus of cannabis indica. Should I take that drug, who can say what worlds of unreality I might explore . . . - HPL to his friend Rheinhart Kleiner, 1919
---> "I never took opium, but if I can’t beat [Thomas de Quincy] for dreams from the age of three or four up, I am a dashed liar! Space, strange cities, weird landscapes, unknown monsters, hideous ceremonies, Oriental and Egyptian gorgeousness and indefinable mysteries of life, death, & torment were daily – or rather nightly – common places to me before I was six years old.[[note]]Keep in mind we're talking about a six-year-old who was familiar with his grandpa's ghost stories, ''Arabian Nights'', Shakespeare and the original Grimms' Fairytales, among other things.[[/note]] Today is the same, save for a slightly increased objectivity. . ." HPL, also to Kleiner, 1920
16th Apr '17 1:19:44 PM CaptEquinox
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*** Possibly having something to do with having to deal with a mentally ill parent. Joshi's examination of the available evidence has cleared up a lot of misconceptions about this. Susie was not just a wacked out crazy woman; she taught him to read and write and encouraged his interest in literature. Winfield's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_paresis_of_the_insane psychosis was caused by syphilis]]. There's no evidence that Susie caught the disease. HPL wouldn't have witnessed his dad behaving strangely because it happened on a business trip and he was hospitalized directly. HPL was about 2 1/2 and if he was told anything it was probably 'Papa's been working too hard'.[[note]]Both insanity and VD were extremely hushed up at the time, and the fact that syphilis causes insanity ''decades'' after infection was just beginning to be accepted by doctors in the 1890s - it was proved in 1913. Winfield was a known workaholic, so his illness could conveniently be attributed to that.[[/note]]. Susie's severe anxiety and panic attacks started after Winfield's death. What would have affected HPL is that she spoke openly about things that frightened her. Other things affected him too. At his grandmother's death his mother and aunts had to go into total mourning -- black dresses, veils, the whole deal. He used to pin colorful pieces of paper to their dresses. It was at this time that his abductions by "night gaunts" started. So Lovecraft probably did not inherit genetic tendencies, but dealing with Susie's terrors along with family vicissitudes gave him in some respects a really crappy childhood. (Other family members were steady and loving, and his grandfather set especially lasting examples -- even cured him of being afraid of the dark!, so it was definitely a mixed bag.)

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*** Possibly having something to do with having to deal with a mentally ill parent. Joshi's
*** Metaphysical theses have been composed on the theory of Lovecraft's imagination being fueled by family mental illness. Biographers Joshi and Poole's
examination of the available evidence has cleared up a lot of misconceptions about this. Susie was not just a wacked out crazy woman; she taught him to read and write and encouraged his interest in literature.misconceptions. Winfield's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_paresis_of_the_insane psychosis was caused by syphilis]].syphilis he'd caught years before]]. There's no evidence that Susie caught the disease. HPL HPL, age 2 1/2, wouldn't have witnessed his dad behaving strangely because it happened on a business trip and he was hospitalized directly. HPL was about 2 1/2 and if If he was told anything it was probably 'Papa's been working too hard'.[[note]]Both insanity and VD were extremely ''extremely'' hushed up at the time, and 189s doctors were just catching onto the fact that syphilis causes insanity ''decades'' decades after infection was just beginning to be accepted by doctors in the 1890s - it was proved in 1913. Winfield was a known workaholic, so his illness could conveniently be attributed to that.[[/note]]. Poole thinks it did affect him in that he probably caught on that ''something'' was going on (something whispered about, something ''nameless'').\\\
Susie's severe anxiety and panic attacks started after Winfield's death. What would have affected HPL is death and especially her father's, when the family lost all their money[[note]]HPL wrote later of having a more or less idyllic early childhood that she ''became'' crappy when they had to sell their house[[/note]]. She spoke openly about things that frightened her. Other things affected him too. At But she was not the lunatic she's been portrayed. She taught HPL to read and write, supported and even joined in all his grandmother's death interests. In that era, "insane" was the label for women who violated the status quo. In other words, don't believe everything Winfield Townley Scott and Clara Hess say about her. There were incidents that couldn't be helped, like his mother and aunts had to go into total marrying and moving away, or the family's deep mourning -- black dresses, veils, the whole deal. He used to pin colorful pieces of paper to their dresses. It was at this time attire that terrified him when his abductions grandmother died -- his abduction by "night gaunts" started. So Lovecraft probably did not inherit genetic tendencies, but dealing with Susie's terrors along with family vicissitudes gave him in some respects a really crappy childhood. (Other night-gaunts started at that time. But he had other steady, loving family members were steady and loving, and his grandfather -- Aunt Lillian got him into astronomy. His grandfather, the one who got him into ghost stories in the first place, set especially lasting examples -- examples, even cured him of being afraid of the dark!, so it was definitely dark! The wonder is not that he came from a mixed bag.)
"haunted" background but what he ''did'' with it.
16th Apr '17 1:53:41 AM CaptEquinox
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*** Possibly having something to do with having to deal with a mentally ill parent. Joshi's examination of the available evidence has cleared up a lot of misconceptions about this. Winfield's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_paresis_of_the_insane psychosis was caused by syphilis]]. There's no evidence that Susie caught the disease. HPL wouldn't have witnessed his dad behaving strangely because it happened on a business trip and he was hospitalized directly. HPL was about 2 1/2 and if he was told anything it was probably 'Papa's been working too hard'.[[note]]Both insanity and syphilis were extremely hushed up at the time, and the fact that syphilis causes insanity ''decades'' after infection was just beginning to be accepted by doctors in the 1890s - it was proved in 1913[[/note]]. Susie's severe anxiety and panic attacks started after Winfield's death. What would have affected HPL is that she spoke openly about things that frightened her. So Lovecraft probably did not inherit genetic tendencies, but dealing with Susie's terrors along with his family losing their fortune gave him in some respects a really crappy childhood. (Other family members were steady and loving, and his grandfather set especially lasting examples -- even cured him of being afraid of the dark!, so it was definitely a mixed bag.)

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*** Possibly having something to do with having to deal with a mentally ill parent. Joshi's examination of the available evidence has cleared up a lot of misconceptions about this. Susie was not just a wacked out crazy woman; she taught him to read and write and encouraged his interest in literature. Winfield's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_paresis_of_the_insane psychosis was caused by syphilis]]. There's no evidence that Susie caught the disease. HPL wouldn't have witnessed his dad behaving strangely because it happened on a business trip and he was hospitalized directly. HPL was about 2 1/2 and if he was told anything it was probably 'Papa's been working too hard'.[[note]]Both insanity and syphilis VD were extremely hushed up at the time, and the fact that syphilis causes insanity ''decades'' after infection was just beginning to be accepted by doctors in the 1890s - it was proved in 1913[[/note]].1913. Winfield was a known workaholic, so his illness could conveniently be attributed to that.[[/note]]. Susie's severe anxiety and panic attacks started after Winfield's death. What would have affected HPL is that she spoke openly about things that frightened her. Other things affected him too. At his grandmother's death his mother and aunts had to go into total mourning -- black dresses, veils, the whole deal. He used to pin colorful pieces of paper to their dresses. It was at this time that his abductions by "night gaunts" started. So Lovecraft probably did not inherit genetic tendencies, but dealing with Susie's terrors along with his family losing their fortune vicissitudes gave him in some respects a really crappy childhood. (Other family members were steady and loving, and his grandfather set especially lasting examples -- even cured him of being afraid of the dark!, so it was definitely a mixed bag.)
15th Apr '17 11:47:55 AM CaptEquinox
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** Given Lovecraft's opinion of dogs as opposed to cats, this makes perfect sense.
15th Apr '17 11:39:55 AM CaptEquinox
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*** Possibly having something to do with his mother's mental illness - even if he hadn't inherited genetic tendencies, this along with his family losing their fortune gave him a really crappy childhood.

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*** Possibly having something to do with having to deal with a mentally ill parent. Joshi's examination of the available evidence has cleared up a lot of misconceptions about this. Winfield's [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_paresis_of_the_insane psychosis was caused by syphilis]]. There's no evidence that Susie caught the disease. HPL wouldn't have witnessed his mother's mental illness - even dad behaving strangely because it happened on a business trip and he was hospitalized directly. HPL was about 2 1/2 and if he hadn't inherited was told anything it was probably 'Papa's been working too hard'.[[note]]Both insanity and syphilis were extremely hushed up at the time, and the fact that syphilis causes insanity ''decades'' after infection was just beginning to be accepted by doctors in the 1890s - it was proved in 1913[[/note]]. Susie's severe anxiety and panic attacks started after Winfield's death. What would have affected HPL is that she spoke openly about things that frightened her. So Lovecraft probably did not inherit genetic tendencies, this but dealing with Susie's terrors along with his family losing their fortune gave him in some respects a really crappy childhood.
childhood. (Other family members were steady and loving, and his grandfather set especially lasting examples -- even cured him of being afraid of the dark!, so it was definitely a mixed bag.)
31st Mar '17 3:08:28 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: The Old Ones are [[OrionsArm Archailects]]]]

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[[WMG: The Old Ones are [[OrionsArm [[WebOriginal/OrionsArm Archailects]]]]
14th Mar '17 8:56:42 AM Doug86
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[[WMG: Nyarlathotep is [[TabletopGames/{{Warhammer40000}} Tzeentch]] ]]

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[[WMG: Nyarlathotep is [[TabletopGames/{{Warhammer40000}} [[TabletopGame/Warhammer40000 Tzeentch]] ]]
25th Feb '17 4:12:39 PM nombretomado
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In short, Azathoth is Lovecraft's unwitting anticipation of the discovery of a supermassive black hole at the core of the Milky Way: an indestructible, mindless creator and destroyer of our galaxy, as it's what drew material together to make it and what will gobble up its remnants when it dies. If stars, planets and constellations are named for their semblence to god-figures from mythology, then "Azathoth" is the ''perfect'' name for that big hungry mutha at the galactic core.

[[WMG:Eric Zahn was the FiddlerOnTheRoof.]]

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In short, Azathoth is Lovecraft's unwitting anticipation of the discovery of a supermassive black hole at the core of the Milky Way: an indestructible, mindless creator and destroyer of our galaxy, as it's what drew material together to make it and what will gobble up its remnants when it dies. If stars, planets and constellations are named for their semblence semblance to god-figures from mythology, then "Azathoth" is the ''perfect'' name for that big hungry mutha at the galactic core.

[[WMG:Eric Zahn was the FiddlerOnTheRoof.Theatre/FiddlerOnTheRoof.]]
14th Feb '17 11:42:39 PM tsstevens
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Nyarly is the Soul or the Telepatic representation of the Outer Gods and if you think about it for a moment you will notice that the Outer Gods(the most powerful beings in all Lovecraft Mythos and therefore the most aliens in mind and body) end up making a creature that its not so different from the human way of thinking. So no matter how alien, bizarre or godlike you are, you will always manifest your "Soul", "Essence" or "Mind" as a creature that wants only suffering and madness spread all over every plane of existence just for fun. Meaning that even gods and lowly earthlings cant escape him because they are all the one and the same, the sense of self-identity and morals are just masks for the very "soul" that drives every motivation you make and fits perfectly with a universe with no meaning or salvation. If the so called god who is omnipotent and benevolent its a blind retard that created the universe by accident then evolution in mind and body (the tool that all the creatures uses to achieve adaptation over the environment) its also flawed and meaningless because all change will always lead into being like Nyarlathotep in the end and worse yet there is no escape from it because like every aspect that the Outer Gods represent (Radiation, Childbearing, Time and Space) its a necessary aspect that keeps reality from falling apart, unchanging, constant, absolute.

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Nyarly is the Soul or the Telepatic representation of the Outer Gods and if you think about it for a moment you will notice that the Outer Gods(the most powerful beings in all Lovecraft Mythos and therefore the most aliens in mind and body) end up making a creature that its not so different from the human way of thinking. So no matter how alien, bizarre or godlike you are, you will always manifest your "Soul", "Essence" or "Mind" as a creature that wants only suffering and madness spread all over every plane of existence just for fun. Meaning that even gods and lowly earthlings cant escape him because they are all the one and the same, the sense of self-identity and morals are just masks for the very "soul" that drives every motivation you make and fits perfectly with a universe with no meaning or salvation. If the so called god who is omnipotent and benevolent its a blind retard child that created the universe by accident then evolution in mind and body (the tool that all the creatures uses to achieve adaptation over the environment) its also flawed and meaningless because all change will always lead into being like Nyarlathotep in the end and worse yet there is no escape from it because like every aspect that the Outer Gods represent (Radiation, Childbearing, Time and Space) its a necessary aspect that keeps reality from falling apart, unchanging, constant, absolute.
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