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4th May '16 4:03:20 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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[[WMG: Cain, Jurgen, and possibly Amberly, are [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann spiral]] beings. ]]

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[[WMG: Cain, Jurgen, and possibly Amberly, are [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann spiral]] beings. ]]
2nd Mar '16 9:03:19 PM MaxwellDaring
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[[WMG:[[Literature/ASymphonyOfEternity Metternich]] is the reincarnation of Ciaphas Cain.]]
* Both are charistmatic leaders who try to avoid battle but always get sent to the worst of it.
* Both manage to turn defeat into victory.
** Not certain, since Metternich is described to have [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy blue skin and red eyes]], so maybe a combination of {{Literature/Flashman}} and a certain [[StarWars Grand Admiral?]]




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[[WMG:[[Literature/ASymphonyOfEternity Metternich]] is the reincarnation of Ciaphas Cain.]]
* Both are charistmatic leaders who try to avoid battle but always get sent to the worst of it.
* Both manage to turn defeat into victory.
** Not certain, since Metternich is described to have [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy blue skin and red eyes]], so maybe a combination of {{Literature/Flashman}} and a certain [[StarWars Grand Admiral?]]
20th Dec '15 6:29:25 PM Antigone3
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* ''Old Soldiers Never Die'' involved a fight against a Nurgle cult.
13th Nov '15 9:32:44 AM FF32
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Cain is Blackadder and Jurgen is Baldrick. It makes a ridiculous amount of sense if you think about it. This also means that ''{{Blackadder}}'' itself is set in the past of the 40k universe...which is probably a poison oak epileptic tree if you think about it.

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Cain is Blackadder and Jurgen is Baldrick. It makes a ridiculous amount of sense if you think about it. This also means that ''{{Blackadder}}'' ''Series/{{Blackadder}}'' itself is set in the past of the 40k universe...which is probably a poison oak epileptic tree if you think about it.
6th Nov '15 5:59:52 PM nombretomado
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* This theory seems quite possible. Similarily, in the ''{{Ravenor}}'' series, Wystan Frauka is a deeply unpleasant (not evil, just rude, boorish, and arrogant) person. But he has his blank limiter, so that may well shoot this one.

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* This theory seems quite possible. Similarily, in the ''{{Ravenor}}'' ''Literature/{{Ravenor}}'' series, Wystan Frauka is a deeply unpleasant (not evil, just rude, boorish, and arrogant) person. But he has his blank limiter, so that may well shoot this one.
12th Oct '15 3:59:39 PM roxana
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* When you consider the number of hairbreadth escapes and remarkable coincidences that regularly befall both Cain and Jurgen this theory seems quite believable.
4th Oct '15 7:55:08 AM Duras1989
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[[WMG:[[Literature/ASymphonyOfEternity Metternich]] is the reincarnation of Ciaphas Cain.]]
*Both are charistmatic leaders who try to avoid battle but always get sent to the worst of it.
*Both manage to turn defeat into victory.
**Not certain, since Metternich is described to have [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy blue skin and red eyes]], so maybe a combination of {{Literature/Flashman}} and a certain [[StarWars Grand Admiral?]]


24th Aug '15 12:55:29 PM Jasin_Moridin
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[[WMG: The Necrons who showed up for the Shadowlight were from Solemnace.]]
Seriously, Necrons just happen to show up completely at random and steal a one-of-a-kind artifact? Definitely sounds like Trazyn's kind of thing to me.
13th Aug '15 7:59:42 AM Antigone3
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[[WMG:There is at least one more encounter with Necrons in the "Cain Archive".]]
* Jurgen was not present for Cain's little trip to Interitus Prime. But when he, Cain, and the Valhallan fire-team first see Necrons on Simia Orichalcae, Jurgen's only comment is "So that's what they look like up close". Clearly, he's seen Necrons at a distance sometime between "Echoes of the Tomb" and the beginning of ''Caves of Ice''.
17th May '15 11:32:17 AM nombretomado
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Consider: SuzumiyaHaruhi is arrogant, short-tempered, very controlling, and capable of altering reality to suit her will. Gunner Jurgen is selfless, laid-back, willing to take orders without question, and capable of nullifying Warp powers (i.e. those that would allow one to alter reality).

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Consider: SuzumiyaHaruhi LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya is arrogant, short-tempered, very controlling, and capable of altering reality to suit her will. Gunner Jurgen is selfless, laid-back, willing to take orders without question, and capable of nullifying Warp powers (i.e. those that would allow one to alter reality).
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