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[[WMG: BOF1 Myria/Tyr actually was the [[KidsAreCruel child]] she pretended to be. By BOF3, she's matured enough to try making up for her old villainy.]]

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\n* Several Breath of Fire IV characters appear as fightable [=NPCs=] in VideoGame/StreetFighter6's World Tour mode, so somebody at Capcom still supports the series.

[[WMG: BOF1 [=BOF1=] Myria/Tyr actually was the [[KidsAreCruel child]] she pretended to be. By BOF3, [=BOF3=], she's matured enough to try making up for her old villainy.]]
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*** Specifically, there ''were'' plans to add Fou-lu from ''IV'' as a playable character in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''--plans that got nixed as the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' franchise was marketed primarily for Western audiences and ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' was seen as less popular in the West. The same development team has expressed interest in having Fou-lu in a ''future'' VideoGame/CapcomVs--so at least for ''IV'', there's no problems with ''licensing'' that would prohibit a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever.

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*** Specifically, there ''were'' plans to add Fou-lu from ''IV'' as a playable character in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''--plans that got nixed as the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' franchise was marketed primarily for Western audiences and ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' was seen as less popular in the West. The same development team has expressed interest in having Fou-lu in a ''future'' VideoGame/CapcomVs--so at least for ''IV'', there's no problems with ''licensing'' that would prohibit a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever.VideoGame/CapcomVs.



*** One bit of circumstantial evidence that does give some credence to the "former CEO put the kibosh on any new Franchise/BreathOfFire" idea--said CEO was also the primary developer behind the VideoGame/MegaManLegends series; almost all the RPG spinoffs have become a bit of TheUnfavourite since he has left Capcom (almost to the degree that the Franchise/BreathOfFire series has suffered), and the company is actually acknowledging Franchise/BreathOfFire enough to have re-releases (on PSN) and in multiple "card game power-up" cameos in ''Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' (in what is, by far, probably the most high profile ''any'' Franchise/BreathOfFire character has been in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever yet).

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*** One bit of circumstantial evidence that does give some credence to the "former CEO put the kibosh on any new Franchise/BreathOfFire" idea--said CEO was also the primary developer behind the VideoGame/MegaManLegends series; almost all the RPG spinoffs have become a bit of TheUnfavourite since he has left Capcom (almost to the degree that the Franchise/BreathOfFire series has suffered), and the company is actually acknowledging Franchise/BreathOfFire enough to have re-releases (on PSN) and in multiple "card game power-up" cameos in ''Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' (in what is, by far, probably the most high profile ''any'' Franchise/BreathOfFire character has been in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever VideoGame/CapcomVs yet).
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Capcom has had a long history of not really knowing what the hell to do with the ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' games in general (hence why it was such a shock when four phone games and a ComicBookAdaptation came out); most notably, it is probably the ''sole'' remaining Capcom franchise that has not yet been featured in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever game. Nobody really knows why.

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Capcom has had a long history of not really knowing what the hell to do with the ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' games in general (hence why it was such a shock when four phone games and a ComicBookAdaptation came out); most notably, it is probably the ''sole'' remaining Capcom franchise that has not yet been featured in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever VideoGame/CapcomVs game. Nobody really knows why.



** More plausible is the idea that there may be residual licensing issues from the ''North American'' release of the first ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' that essentially prevent the franchise from being included in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever. Square and Capcom actually share distribution rights in the US for the first game (due to Capcom having farmed out the localisation of ''I'' to Squaresoft) and this explanation does become ''slightly'' more plausible with the news [[http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/2363-square-enix-bringing-valkyrie-profile-sequel-to-xbox-360-and-more SquareEnix is apparently working on ports of ''I'' and ''II'' to the XBox360 to be formally announced at E3]]. (Of note, Creator/SquareEnix ''doesn't'' have distro rights for ''II'' unless Capcom is specifically licensing it.)

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** More plausible is the idea that there may be residual licensing issues from the ''North American'' release of the first ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' that essentially prevent the franchise from being included in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever.VideoGame/CapcomVs. Square and Capcom actually share distribution rights in the US for the first game (due to Capcom having farmed out the localisation of ''I'' to Squaresoft) and this explanation does become ''slightly'' more plausible with the news [[http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/2363-square-enix-bringing-valkyrie-profile-sequel-to-xbox-360-and-more SquareEnix is apparently working on ports of ''I'' and ''II'' to the XBox360 to be formally announced at E3]]. (Of note, Creator/SquareEnix ''doesn't'' have distro rights for ''II'' unless Capcom is specifically licensing it.)



* Another urban legend states that the creators of the series essentially prohibited Capcom from including the series in any VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever games.
** And pretty much each and every single UrbanLegendOfZelda regarding why the ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' franchise has never ended up in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever got blown out of the water by a recent tweet from the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' development team (which in and of itself has, in addition to the CEO of Capcom leaving, added ''considerable'' fuel to the "are they going to revive ''Franchise/BreathOfFire''" rumour mill).
*** Specifically, there ''were'' plans to add Fou-lu from ''IV'' as a playable character in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''--plans that got nixed as the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' franchise was marketed primarily for Western audiences and ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' was seen as less popular in the West. The same development team has expressed interest in having Fou-lu in a ''future'' VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever--so at least for ''IV'', there's no problems with ''licensing'' that would prohibit a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever.

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* Another urban legend states that the creators of the series essentially prohibited Capcom from including the series in any VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever VideoGame/CapcomVs games.
** And pretty much each and every single UrbanLegendOfZelda regarding why the ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' franchise has never ended up in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever VideoGame/CapcomVs got blown out of the water by a recent tweet from the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' development team (which in and of itself has, in addition to the CEO of Capcom leaving, added ''considerable'' fuel to the "are they going to revive ''Franchise/BreathOfFire''" rumour mill).
*** Specifically, there ''were'' plans to add Fou-lu from ''IV'' as a playable character in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''--plans that got nixed as the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' franchise was marketed primarily for Western audiences and ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' was seen as less popular in the West. The same development team has expressed interest in having Fou-lu in a ''future'' VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever--so VideoGame/CapcomVs--so at least for ''IV'', there's no problems with ''licensing'' that would prohibit a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever.


* It would explain where all the [[PettingZooPeople animal folk]] came from.

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* It would explain where all the [[PettingZooPeople [[BeastMan animal folk]] came from.
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Of course, she also (consciously or subconsciously) couldn't resist eliminating everything that would have explained [[OldShame her past]] as a GoddessOfEvil and [[MoralEventHorizon wiped out the dragons]] so that another Ryu wouldn't show up to kill her again before she finished. (Clearly, no one ever taught her what being good actually meant.)

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Of course, she also (consciously or subconsciously) couldn't resist eliminating everything that would have explained [[OldShame her past]] as a GoddessOfEvil GodOfEvil and [[MoralEventHorizon wiped out the dragons]] so that another Ryu wouldn't show up to kill her again before she finished. (Clearly, no one ever taught her what being good actually meant.)
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[[WMG: Whilst we're engaging in Wild Mass Guessing about relationships between BreathOfFire and other universes, ''IV'' may be in the same world as ''VideoGame/{{Utawarerumono}}''.]]

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[[WMG: Whilst we're engaging in Wild Mass Guessing about relationships between BreathOfFire Franchise/BreathOfFire and other universes, ''IV'' may be in the same world as ''VideoGame/{{Utawarerumono}}''.]]



VERY popular {{Fanon}} for folks who take the "BreathOfFire IV is a NonLinearSequel and in fact a prequel to I-III" interpretation.

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VERY popular {{Fanon}} for folks who take the "BreathOfFire IV "VideoGame/BreathOfFireIV is a NonLinearSequel and in fact a prequel to I-III" interpretation.



[[WMG: Theories as to where, or even ''if'', ''BreathOfFire IV'' fits properly in the timeline.]]

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[[WMG: Theories as to where, or even ''if'', ''BreathOfFire IV'' ''VideoGame/BreathOfFireIV'' fits properly in the timeline.]]



[[WMG: The REAL reason Capcom has shown a definite lack of ParentalFavoritism towards the ''BreathOfFire'' franchise...]]
Capcom has had a long history of not really knowing what the hell to do with the ''BreathOfFire'' games in general (hence why it was such a shock when four phone games and a ComicBookAdaptation came out); most notably, it is probably the ''sole'' remaining Capcom franchise that has not yet been featured in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever game. Nobody really knows why.
* One urban legend (inspired by Squaresoft's translation of ''I'') is that the first ''BreathOfFire'' was actually a Square game that Capcom bought the rights for and the entire franchise is under some considerable restriction on its promotion/development as a result. (This is easily disprovable by the Japanese release being all Capcom's baby; FanTranslation from the original Japanese game has been very helpful in this regard.)
** More plausible is the idea that there may be residual licensing issues from the ''North American'' release of the first ''BreathOfFire'' that essentially prevent the franchise from being included in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever. Square and Capcom actually share distribution rights in the US for the first game (due to Capcom having farmed out the localisation of ''I'' to Squaresoft) and this explanation does become ''slightly'' more plausible with the news [[http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/2363-square-enix-bringing-valkyrie-profile-sequel-to-xbox-360-and-more SquareEnix is apparently working on ports of ''I'' and ''II'' to the XBox360 to be formally announced at E3]]. (Of note, Creator/SquareEnix ''doesn't'' have distro rights for ''II'' unless Capcom is specifically licensing it.)

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[[WMG: The REAL reason Capcom has shown a definite lack of ParentalFavoritism towards the ''BreathOfFire'' ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' franchise...]]
Capcom has had a long history of not really knowing what the hell to do with the ''BreathOfFire'' ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' games in general (hence why it was such a shock when four phone games and a ComicBookAdaptation came out); most notably, it is probably the ''sole'' remaining Capcom franchise that has not yet been featured in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever game. Nobody really knows why.
* One urban legend (inspired by Squaresoft's translation of ''I'') is that the first ''BreathOfFire'' ''VideoGame/BreathOfFireI'' was actually a Square game that Capcom bought the rights for and the entire franchise is under some considerable restriction on its promotion/development as a result. (This is easily disprovable by the Japanese release being all Capcom's baby; FanTranslation from the original Japanese game has been very helpful in this regard.)
** More plausible is the idea that there may be residual licensing issues from the ''North American'' release of the first ''BreathOfFire'' ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' that essentially prevent the franchise from being included in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever. Square and Capcom actually share distribution rights in the US for the first game (due to Capcom having farmed out the localisation of ''I'' to Squaresoft) and this explanation does become ''slightly'' more plausible with the news [[http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/2363-square-enix-bringing-valkyrie-profile-sequel-to-xbox-360-and-more SquareEnix is apparently working on ports of ''I'' and ''II'' to the XBox360 to be formally announced at E3]]. (Of note, Creator/SquareEnix ''doesn't'' have distro rights for ''II'' unless Capcom is specifically licensing it.)



** And pretty much each and every single UrbanLegendOfZelda regarding why the ''BreathOfFire'' franchise has never ended up in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever got blown out of the water by a recent tweet from the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' development team (which in and of itself has, in addition to the CEO of Capcom leaving, added ''considerable'' fuel to the "are they going to revive ''BreathOfFire''" rumour mill).
*** Specifically, there ''were'' plans to add Fou-lu from ''IV'' as a playable character in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''--plans that got nixed as the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' franchise was marketed primarily for Western audiences and ''BreathOfFire'' was seen as less popular in the West. The same development team has expressed interest in having Fou-lu in a ''future'' VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever--so at least for ''IV'', there's no problems with ''licensing'' that would prohibit a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever.

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** And pretty much each and every single UrbanLegendOfZelda regarding why the ''BreathOfFire'' ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' franchise has never ended up in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever got blown out of the water by a recent tweet from the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' development team (which in and of itself has, in addition to the CEO of Capcom leaving, added ''considerable'' fuel to the "are they going to revive ''BreathOfFire''" ''Franchise/BreathOfFire''" rumour mill).
*** Specifically, there ''were'' plans to add Fou-lu from ''IV'' as a playable character in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''--plans that got nixed as the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' franchise was marketed primarily for Western audiences and ''BreathOfFire'' ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' was seen as less popular in the West. The same development team has expressed interest in having Fou-lu in a ''future'' VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever--so at least for ''IV'', there's no problems with ''licensing'' that would prohibit a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever.



* Another urban legend is that Capcom was trying to sell the franchise to another company, but this was largely disproven when Camelot Games actually ''tried'' to buy the rights to ''BreathOfFire'' (Capcom refused).

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* Another urban legend is that Capcom was trying to sell the franchise to another company, but this was largely disproven when Camelot Games actually ''tried'' to buy the rights to ''BreathOfFire'' ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' (Capcom refused).



** This is partially proven and partially disproven; there hasn't been an official announcement of a new ''BreathOfFire'', and there was (comparatively speaking) very little ExpandedUniverse material ever made for ''Dragon Quarter'' other than the artbook and the soundtrack. It is known from the developer's blog by the creators of ''Dragon Quarter'' (now offline) that the creators would have liked to do a ''BreathOfFire VI'' using the same game engine as ''Dragon Quarter''--if this was the case, this was probably ''rapidly'' shelved when Capcom saw just how much of a BrokenBase had developed (there are ''still'' some who refuse to recognise ''Dragon Quarter'' as even being in the franchise).
*** In other words, the official policy of Capcom is not only to deny that ''Dragon Quarter'' ever happened but to deny that the ''BreathOfFire'' franchise as a whole happened, at least outside of Japan.
*** However, there has been a ''lot'' of promotion of its immediate predecessor ''BreathOfFire '''IV''''' in Japan (and more recently, in France and China), especially since 2007 (when both three separate Japanese smartphone games--two of which can be considered a NonLinearSequel to ''IV'' itself--and the ComicBookAdaptation of ''IV'' were released); this has led to WildMassGuessing on its own that Capcom is probing interest in a BreathOfFire VI that is either a sequel or prequel to ''IV''.

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** This is partially proven and partially disproven; there hasn't been an official announcement of a new ''BreathOfFire'', ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'', and there was (comparatively speaking) very little ExpandedUniverse material ever made for ''Dragon Quarter'' other than the artbook and the soundtrack. It is known from the developer's blog by the creators of ''Dragon Quarter'' (now offline) that the creators would have liked to do a ''BreathOfFire ''Franchise/BreathOfFire VI'' using the same game engine as ''Dragon Quarter''--if this was the case, this was probably ''rapidly'' shelved when Capcom saw just how much of a BrokenBase had developed (there are ''still'' some who refuse to recognise ''Dragon Quarter'' as even being in the franchise).
*** In other words, the official policy of Capcom is not only to deny that ''Dragon Quarter'' ever happened but to deny that the ''BreathOfFire'' ''Franchise/BreathOfFire'' franchise as a whole happened, at least outside of Japan.
*** However, there has been a ''lot'' of promotion of its immediate predecessor ''BreathOfFire ''Franchise/BreathOfFire '''IV''''' in Japan (and more recently, in France and China), especially since 2007 (when both three separate Japanese smartphone games--two of which can be considered a NonLinearSequel to ''IV'' itself--and the ComicBookAdaptation of ''IV'' were released); this has led to WildMassGuessing on its own that Capcom is probing interest in a BreathOfFire Franchise/BreathOfFire VI that is either a sequel or prequel to ''IV''.



*** One bit of circumstantial evidence that does give some credence to the "former CEO put the kibosh on any new BreathOfFire" idea--said CEO was also the primary developer behind the VideoGame/MegaManLegends series; almost all the RPG spinoffs have become a bit of TheUnfavourite since he has left Capcom (almost to the degree that the BreathOfFire series has suffered), and the company is actually acknowledging BreathOfFire enough to have re-releases (on PSN) and in multiple "card game power-up" cameos in ''Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' (in what is, by far, probably the most high profile ''any'' BreathOfFire character has been in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever yet).

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*** One bit of circumstantial evidence that does give some credence to the "former CEO put the kibosh on any new BreathOfFire" Franchise/BreathOfFire" idea--said CEO was also the primary developer behind the VideoGame/MegaManLegends series; almost all the RPG spinoffs have become a bit of TheUnfavourite since he has left Capcom (almost to the degree that the BreathOfFire Franchise/BreathOfFire series has suffered), and the company is actually acknowledging BreathOfFire Franchise/BreathOfFire enough to have re-releases (on PSN) and in multiple "card game power-up" cameos in ''Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' (in what is, by far, probably the most high profile ''any'' BreathOfFire Franchise/BreathOfFire character has been in a VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever yet).
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* Itself. There was an illusion cast on each half of the armies each time they went out to think the other half was their enemy.
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[[WMG: Alternatively, Breath of Fire is set in the same world as [[FireEmblem Tellius]].]]

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[[WMG: Alternatively, Breath of Fire is set in the same world as [[FireEmblem [[VideoGame/FireEmblem Tellius]].]]
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Capcom has had a long history of not really knowing what the hell to do with the ''BreathOfFire'' games in general (hence why it was such a shock when four phone games and a ComicBookAdaptation came out); most notably, it is probably the ''sole'' remaining Capcom franchise that has not yet been featured in a CapcomVsWhatever game. Nobody really knows why.

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Capcom has had a long history of not really knowing what the hell to do with the ''BreathOfFire'' games in general (hence why it was such a shock when four phone games and a ComicBookAdaptation came out); most notably, it is probably the ''sole'' remaining Capcom franchise that has not yet been featured in a CapcomVsWhatever VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever game. Nobody really knows why.



** More plausible is the idea that there may be residual licensing issues from the ''North American'' release of the first ''BreathOfFire'' that essentially prevent the franchise from being included in a CapcomVsWhatever. Square and Capcom actually share distribution rights in the US for the first game (due to Capcom having farmed out the localisation of ''I'' to Squaresoft) and this explanation does become ''slightly'' more plausible with the news [[http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/2363-square-enix-bringing-valkyrie-profile-sequel-to-xbox-360-and-more SquareEnix is apparently working on ports of ''I'' and ''II'' to the XBox360 to be formally announced at E3]]. (Of note, Creator/SquareEnix ''doesn't'' have distro rights for ''II'' unless Capcom is specifically licensing it.)

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** More plausible is the idea that there may be residual licensing issues from the ''North American'' release of the first ''BreathOfFire'' that essentially prevent the franchise from being included in a CapcomVsWhatever.VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever. Square and Capcom actually share distribution rights in the US for the first game (due to Capcom having farmed out the localisation of ''I'' to Squaresoft) and this explanation does become ''slightly'' more plausible with the news [[http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/2363-square-enix-bringing-valkyrie-profile-sequel-to-xbox-360-and-more SquareEnix is apparently working on ports of ''I'' and ''II'' to the XBox360 to be formally announced at E3]]. (Of note, Creator/SquareEnix ''doesn't'' have distro rights for ''II'' unless Capcom is specifically licensing it.)



* Another urban legend states that the creators of the series essentially prohibited Capcom from including the series in any CapcomVsWhatever games.
** And pretty much each and every single UrbanLegendOfZelda regarding why the ''BreathOfFire'' franchise has never ended up in a CapcomVsWhatever got blown out of the water by a recent tweet from the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' development team (which in and of itself has, in addition to the CEO of Capcom leaving, added ''considerable'' fuel to the "are they going to revive ''BreathOfFire''" rumour mill).
*** Specifically, there ''were'' plans to add Fou-lu from ''IV'' as a playable character in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''--plans that got nixed as the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' franchise was marketed primarily for Western audiences and ''BreathOfFire'' was seen as less popular in the West. The same development team has expressed interest in having Fou-lu in a ''future'' CapcomVsWhatever--so at least for ''IV'', there's no problems with ''licensing'' that would prohibit a CapcomVsWhatever.

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* Another urban legend states that the creators of the series essentially prohibited Capcom from including the series in any CapcomVsWhatever VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever games.
** And pretty much each and every single UrbanLegendOfZelda regarding why the ''BreathOfFire'' franchise has never ended up in a CapcomVsWhatever VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever got blown out of the water by a recent tweet from the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' development team (which in and of itself has, in addition to the CEO of Capcom leaving, added ''considerable'' fuel to the "are they going to revive ''BreathOfFire''" rumour mill).
*** Specifically, there ''were'' plans to add Fou-lu from ''IV'' as a playable character in ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''--plans that got nixed as the ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' franchise was marketed primarily for Western audiences and ''BreathOfFire'' was seen as less popular in the West. The same development team has expressed interest in having Fou-lu in a ''future'' CapcomVsWhatever--so VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever--so at least for ''IV'', there's no problems with ''licensing'' that would prohibit a CapcomVsWhatever.VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever.



*** One bit of circumstantial evidence that does give some credence to the "former CEO put the kibosh on any new BreathOfFire" idea--said CEO was also the primary developer behind the VideoGame/MegaManLegends series; almost all the RPG spinoffs have become a bit of TheUnfavourite since he has left Capcom (almost to the degree that the BreathOfFire series has suffered), and the company is actually acknowledging BreathOfFire enough to have re-releases (on PSN) and in multiple "card game power-up" cameos in ''Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' (in what is, by far, probably the most high profile ''any'' BreathOfFire character has been in a CapcomVsWhatever yet).

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*** One bit of circumstantial evidence that does give some credence to the "former CEO put the kibosh on any new BreathOfFire" idea--said CEO was also the primary developer behind the VideoGame/MegaManLegends series; almost all the RPG spinoffs have become a bit of TheUnfavourite since he has left Capcom (almost to the degree that the BreathOfFire series has suffered), and the company is actually acknowledging BreathOfFire enough to have re-releases (on PSN) and in multiple "card game power-up" cameos in ''Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' (in what is, by far, probably the most high profile ''any'' BreathOfFire character has been in a CapcomVsWhatever VideoGame/CapcomVsWhatever yet).
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[[WMG: Whilst we're engaging in Wild Mass Guessing about relationships between BreathOfFire and other universes, ''IV'' may be in the same world as {{Utawarerumono}}.]]

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[[WMG: Whilst we're engaging in Wild Mass Guessing about relationships between BreathOfFire and other universes, ''IV'' may be in the same world as {{Utawarerumono}}.''VideoGame/{{Utawarerumono}}''.]]
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[[WMG: Or the same world as TengenToppaGurrenLagann.]]

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[[WMG: Or the same world as TengenToppaGurrenLagann.Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann.]]



** There's also been a ''lot'' of speculation as to just how much ''Dragon Quarter'' in particular influenced the writers of TengenToppaGurrenLagann, so (as with all Wild Mass Guessing) your mileage may vary.

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** There's also been a ''lot'' of speculation as to just how much ''Dragon Quarter'' in particular influenced the writers of TengenToppaGurrenLagann, Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann, so (as with all Wild Mass Guessing) your mileage may vary.
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** More plausible is the idea that there may be residual licensing issues from the ''North American'' release of the first ''BreathOfFire'' that essentially prevent the franchise from being included in a CapcomVsWhatever. Square and Capcom actually share distribution rights in the US for the first game (due to Capcom having farmed out the localisation of ''I'' to Squaresoft) and this explanation does become ''slightly'' more plausible with the news [[http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/2363-square-enix-bringing-valkyrie-profile-sequel-to-xbox-360-and-more SquareEnix is apparently working on ports of ''I'' and ''II'' to the XBox360 to be formally announced at E3]]. (Of note, SquareEnix ''doesn't'' have distro rights for ''II'' unless Capcom is specifically licensing it.)

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** More plausible is the idea that there may be residual licensing issues from the ''North American'' release of the first ''BreathOfFire'' that essentially prevent the franchise from being included in a CapcomVsWhatever. Square and Capcom actually share distribution rights in the US for the first game (due to Capcom having farmed out the localisation of ''I'' to Squaresoft) and this explanation does become ''slightly'' more plausible with the news [[http://www.gofanboy.com/go-fanboy-news/2363-square-enix-bringing-valkyrie-profile-sequel-to-xbox-360-and-more SquareEnix is apparently working on ports of ''I'' and ''II'' to the XBox360 to be formally announced at E3]]. (Of note, SquareEnix Creator/SquareEnix ''doesn't'' have distro rights for ''II'' unless Capcom is specifically licensing it.)
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*** At least some media reports have indicated that developers at ''Capcom'' have a real interest in reviving the franchise (which has actually been backed up by the jettisoned ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' plans) but that the main issue--per the CEO of Capcom at the time--was funding. (The CEO who gave the statement resigned from Capcom effective November 2010, which has in and of itself revived rumours that the series may finally exit its seven years of DevelopmentHell--the popular perception has been that the CEO (who was responsible for the VideoGame/MegaMan franchise) may have been nixing revivals.)

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*** At least some media reports have indicated that developers at ''Capcom'' have a real interest in reviving the franchise (which has actually been backed up by the jettisoned ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' plans) but that the main issue--per the CEO of Capcom at the time--was funding. (The CEO who gave the statement resigned from Capcom effective November 2010, which has in and of itself revived rumours that the series may finally exit its seven years of DevelopmentHell--the popular perception has been that the CEO (who was responsible for the VideoGame/MegaMan Franchise/MegaMan franchise) may have been nixing revivals.)
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** And pretty much each and every single UrbanLegendOfZelda regarding why the ''BreathOfFire'' franchise has never ended up in a CapcomVsWhatever got blown out of the water by a recent tweet from the ''MarvelVsCapcom'' development team (which in and of itself has, in addition to the CEO of Capcom leaving, added ''considerable'' fuel to the "are they going to revive ''BreathOfFire''" rumour mill).
*** Specifically, there ''were'' plans to add Fou-lu from ''IV'' as a playable character in ''MarvelVsCapcom 3''--plans that got nixed as the ''MarvelVsCapcom'' franchise was marketed primarily for Western audiences and ''BreathOfFire'' was seen as less popular in the West. The same development team has expressed interest in having Fou-lu in a ''future'' CapcomVsWhatever--so at least for ''IV'', there's no problems with ''licensing'' that would prohibit a CapcomVsWhatever.

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** And pretty much each and every single UrbanLegendOfZelda regarding why the ''BreathOfFire'' franchise has never ended up in a CapcomVsWhatever got blown out of the water by a recent tweet from the ''MarvelVsCapcom'' ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' development team (which in and of itself has, in addition to the CEO of Capcom leaving, added ''considerable'' fuel to the "are they going to revive ''BreathOfFire''" rumour mill).
*** Specifically, there ''were'' plans to add Fou-lu from ''IV'' as a playable character in ''MarvelVsCapcom 3''--plans ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom3''--plans that got nixed as the ''MarvelVsCapcom'' ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' franchise was marketed primarily for Western audiences and ''BreathOfFire'' was seen as less popular in the West. The same development team has expressed interest in having Fou-lu in a ''future'' CapcomVsWhatever--so at least for ''IV'', there's no problems with ''licensing'' that would prohibit a CapcomVsWhatever.



*** At least some media reports have indicated that developers at ''Capcom'' have a real interest in reviving the franchise (which has actually been backed up by the jettisoned ''MarvelVsCapcom'' plans) but that the main issue--per the CEO of Capcom at the time--was funding. (The CEO who gave the statement resigned from Capcom effective November 2010, which has in and of itself revived rumours that the series may finally exit its seven years of DevelopmentHell--the popular perception has been that the CEO (who was responsible for the VideoGame/MegaMan franchise) may have been nixing revivals.)

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*** At least some media reports have indicated that developers at ''Capcom'' have a real interest in reviving the franchise (which has actually been backed up by the jettisoned ''MarvelVsCapcom'' ''VideoGame/MarvelVsCapcom'' plans) but that the main issue--per the CEO of Capcom at the time--was funding. (The CEO who gave the statement resigned from Capcom effective November 2010, which has in and of itself revived rumours that the series may finally exit its seven years of DevelopmentHell--the popular perception has been that the CEO (who was responsible for the VideoGame/MegaMan franchise) may have been nixing revivals.)
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** You forget that the Wyndians in ''I'' were able to freely turn into giant birds (which was something of a plot point) while in ''IV'' they were still humanoid when they flew. Perhaps they wanted to be able to fly more freely and in-between ''IV'' and ''I'' they found a way to change into full on birds.
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[[WMG: Highfort ''thought'' it was at war with...]]
* Simafort. The false Jean was going to run the other side and he and Shupkay were going to play both sides against the middle. When he was killed off by Ryu, she had to improvise.
* Tunlan.
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[[WMG: Simafort was at war with...]]
No one. It was a smokescreen for having their army ambushed and slaughtered by demonic forces (Or from another perspective, they were at war with the demons but weren't aware of it). Shupkay was the MoleInCharge and intended to use the forgotten superweapon to assist the demons' invasion plans, and to kill off the one threat to her leadership while she was at it.
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[[WMG: BOF1 Myria/Tyr actually was the child she pretended to be. By BOF3, she's matured enough to try making up for her old villainy.]]
Of course, she also (consciously or subconsciously) couldn't resist eliminating everything that would have explained [[OldShame her past]] as a GoddessOfEvil and wiped out the dragons so that another Ryu wouldn't show up to kill her again.

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[[WMG: BOF1 Myria/Tyr actually was the child [[KidsAreCruel child]] she pretended to be. By BOF3, she's matured enough to try making up for her old villainy.]]
Of course, she also (consciously or subconsciously) couldn't resist eliminating everything that would have explained [[OldShame her past]] as a GoddessOfEvil and [[MoralEventHorizon wiped out the dragons dragons]] so that another Ryu wouldn't show up to kill her again.
again before she finished. (Clearly, no one ever taught her what being good actually meant.)
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[[WMG: BOF1 Myria/Tyr actually was the child she pretended to be. By BOF3, she's matured enough to try making up for her old villainy.]]
Of course, she also (consciously or subconsciously) couldn't resist eliminating everything that would have explained [[OldShame her past]] as a GoddessOfEvil and wiped out the dragons so that another Ryu wouldn't show up to kill her again.
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*** One bit of circumstantial evidence that does give some credence to the "former CEO put the kibosh on any new BreathOfFire" idea--said CEO was also the primary developer behind the MegaManLegends series; almost all the RPG spinoffs have become a bit of TheUnfavourite since he has left Capcom (almost to the degree that the BreathOfFire series has suffered), and the company is actually acknowledging BreathOfFire enough to have re-releases (on PSN) and in multiple "card game power-up" cameos in ''Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' (in what is, by far, probably the most high profile ''any'' BreathOfFire character has been in a CapcomVsWhatever yet).

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*** One bit of circumstantial evidence that does give some credence to the "former CEO put the kibosh on any new BreathOfFire" idea--said CEO was also the primary developer behind the MegaManLegends VideoGame/MegaManLegends series; almost all the RPG spinoffs have become a bit of TheUnfavourite since he has left Capcom (almost to the degree that the BreathOfFire series has suffered), and the company is actually acknowledging BreathOfFire enough to have re-releases (on PSN) and in multiple "card game power-up" cameos in ''Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' (in what is, by far, probably the most high profile ''any'' BreathOfFire character has been in a CapcomVsWhatever yet).
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*** At least some media reports have indicated that developers at ''Capcom'' have a real interest in reviving the franchise (which has actually been backed up by the jettisoned ''MarvelVsCapcom'' plans) but that the main issue--per the CEO of Capcom at the time--was funding. (The CEO who gave the statement resigned from Capcom effective November 2010, which has in and of itself revived rumours that the series may finally exit its seven years of DevelopmentHell--the popular perception has been that the CEO (who was responsible for the Game/MegaMan franchise) may have been nixing revivals.)
*** One bit of circumstantial evidence that does give some credence to the "former CEO put the kibosh on any new BreathOfFire" idea--said CEO was also the primary developer behind the MegaMan Legends series; almost all the MegaMan RPG spinoffs have become a bit of TheUnfavourite since he has left Capcom (almost to the degree that the BreathOfFire series has suffered), and the company is actually acknowledging BreathOfFire enough to have re-releases (on PSN) and in multiple "card game power-up" cameos in ''Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' (in what is, by far, probably the most high profile ''any'' BreathOfFire character has been in a CapcomVsWhatever yet).

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*** At least some media reports have indicated that developers at ''Capcom'' have a real interest in reviving the franchise (which has actually been backed up by the jettisoned ''MarvelVsCapcom'' plans) but that the main issue--per the CEO of Capcom at the time--was funding. (The CEO who gave the statement resigned from Capcom effective November 2010, which has in and of itself revived rumours that the series may finally exit its seven years of DevelopmentHell--the popular perception has been that the CEO (who was responsible for the Game/MegaMan VideoGame/MegaMan franchise) may have been nixing revivals.)
*** One bit of circumstantial evidence that does give some credence to the "former CEO put the kibosh on any new BreathOfFire" idea--said CEO was also the primary developer behind the MegaMan Legends MegaManLegends series; almost all the MegaMan RPG spinoffs have become a bit of TheUnfavourite since he has left Capcom (almost to the degree that the BreathOfFire series has suffered), and the company is actually acknowledging BreathOfFire enough to have re-releases (on PSN) and in multiple "card game power-up" cameos in ''Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' (in what is, by far, probably the most high profile ''any'' BreathOfFire character has been in a CapcomVsWhatever yet).
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Just a bit more on the Wild Mass Guessing on why Bo F was ignored for eight years...and is now having at least re-releases and tentative crossover cameos whilst the Mega Man Legends series is the new unfavourite


*** One bit of circumstantial evidence that does give some credence to the "former CEO put the kibosh on any new BreathOfFire" idea--said CEO was also the primary developer behind the MegaMan Legends series; almost all the MegaMan RPG spinoffs have become a bit of TheUnfavourite since he has left Capcom (almost to the degree that the BreathOfFire series has suffered), and the company is actually acknowledging BreathOfFire enough to have re-releases (on PSN) and in multiple "card game power-up" cameos in ''Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3'' (in what is, by far, probably the most high profile ''any'' BreathOfFire character has been in a CapcomVsWhatever yet).



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** This is partially proven and partially disproven; there hasn't been an official announcement of a new ''BreathOfFire'', and there was (comparatively speaking) very little ExpandedUniverse material ever made for ''Dragon Quarter'' other than the artbook and the soundtrack. It is known from the developer's blog by the creators of ''Dragon Quarter'' (now offline) that the creators would have liked to do a ''BreathOfFire VI'' using the same game engine as ''Dragon Quarter''--if this was the case, this was probably ''rapidly'' shelved when Capcom saw just how much of a BrokenBase had developed (there are ''still'' some in the FanDumb who refuse to recognise ''Dragon Quarter'' as even being in the franchise).

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** This is partially proven and partially disproven; there hasn't been an official announcement of a new ''BreathOfFire'', and there was (comparatively speaking) very little ExpandedUniverse material ever made for ''Dragon Quarter'' other than the artbook and the soundtrack. It is known from the developer's blog by the creators of ''Dragon Quarter'' (now offline) that the creators would have liked to do a ''BreathOfFire VI'' using the same game engine as ''Dragon Quarter''--if this was the case, this was probably ''rapidly'' shelved when Capcom saw just how much of a BrokenBase had developed (there are ''still'' some in the FanDumb who refuse to recognise ''Dragon Quarter'' as even being in the franchise).
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[[WMG: ''IV'' could be in the same universe as AvatarTheLastAirbender, for that matter.]]

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[[WMG: ''IV'' could be in the same universe as AvatarTheLastAirbender, ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'', for that matter.]]
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*** At least some media reports have indicated that developers at ''Capcom'' have a real interest in reviving the franchise (which has actually been backed up by the jettisoned ''MarvelVsCapcom'' plans) but that the main issue--per the CEO of Capcom at the time--was funding. (The CEO who gave the statement resigned from Capcom effective November 2010, which has in and of itself revived rumours that the series may finally exit its seven years of DevelopmentHell--the popular perception has been that the CEO (who was responsible for the MegaMan franchise) may have been nixing revivals.)

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*** At least some media reports have indicated that developers at ''Capcom'' have a real interest in reviving the franchise (which has actually been backed up by the jettisoned ''MarvelVsCapcom'' plans) but that the main issue--per the CEO of Capcom at the time--was funding. (The CEO who gave the statement resigned from Capcom effective November 2010, which has in and of itself revived rumours that the series may finally exit its seven years of DevelopmentHell--the popular perception has been that the CEO (who was responsible for the MegaMan Game/MegaMan franchise) may have been nixing revivals.)

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Let's review the similarities: EvilEmpire in the west who wants to destroy the protagonist, LastOfHisKind [[CrystalDragonJesus Crystal Dragon Buddha]] sealed away for hundreds of years, set in a FantasyCounterpartCulture version of the Japan/China/Korea general area, and a bunch of chosen ones who are linked to specific elements who end up helping out the Crystal Dragon Buddha. SoYeah.

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Let's review the similarities: EvilEmpire in the west who wants to destroy the protagonist, LastOfHisKind [[CrystalDragonJesus Crystal Dragon Buddha]] sealed away for hundreds of years, set in a FantasyCounterpartCulture version of the Japan/China/Korea general area, and a bunch of chosen ones who are linked to specific elements who end up helping out the Crystal Dragon Buddha. SoYeah.



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** And pretty much each and every single UrbanLegendOfZelda regarding why the ''BreathOfFire'' franchise has never ended up in a CapcomVsWhatever got blown out of the water by a recent tweet from the ''MarvelVsCapcom'' development team (which in and of itself has, in addition to the CEO of Capcom leaving, added ''considerable'' fuel to the "are they going to revive ''BreathOfFire''" rumour mill).
*** Specifically, there ''were'' plans to add Fou-lu from ''IV'' as a playable character in ''MarvelVsCapcom 3''--plans that got nixed as the ''MarvelVsCapcom'' franchise was marketed primarily for Western audiences and ''BreathOfFire'' was seen as less popular in the West. The same development team has expressed interest in having Fou-lu in a ''future'' CapcomVsWhatever--so at least for ''IV'', there's no problems with ''licensing'' that would prohibit a CapcomVsWhatever.


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*** At least some media reports have indicated that developers at ''Capcom'' have a real interest in reviving the franchise (which has actually been backed up by the jettisoned ''MarvelVsCapcom'' plans) but that the main issue--per the CEO of Capcom at the time--was funding. (The CEO who gave the statement resigned from Capcom effective November 2010, which has in and of itself revived rumours that the series may finally exit its seven years of DevelopmentHell--the popular perception has been that the CEO (who was responsible for the MegaMan franchise) may have been nixing revivals.)

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