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5th Jan '17 6:40:04 PM Stellarvore
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--> '''Youtube Comment:''' the judge is the devil or at least a representation of him. The Kid avoids him at all costs, and cannot kill him at short distances in the creek, after showing he can hit indians at 100 yards with the pistol. The judge is at the center of depravity throughout. He is in the hut watching the naked imbecile and a young girl, etc. Two other times in the book a young girl goes missing in a town where the Kid is encamped with the gang. I at first thought it was the black Jackson, as he was late to rejoin the gang the first time, but after the ending I think different. I think the Kid is the sexual predator, the one responsible for the girls disappearing. I think he has been running from himself the whole time. The judge calls him out as the only one not being truthful in his depravity and violence, like he fashions himself better than the rest. I think at the end, he finds the young girl in the outhouse hiding and crying because of the bear, and "the judge" overtakes him. The devil gets him one more time and he kills her. It is the Kid that is the unnamed man who tells the onlookers not to go inside. They open and see what has been done, that is the horror. The Judge is vindicated and dances at the stage, saying that he will never die, as no matter how men try to outrun him, they cannot, and he lives within them forever.

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--> '''Youtube Comment:''' the judge is the devil or at least a representation of him. The Kid avoids him at all costs, and cannot kill him at short distances in the creek, after showing he can hit indians at 100 yards with the pistol. The judge is at the center of depravity throughout. He is in the hut watching the naked imbecile and a young girl, etc. Two other times in the book a young girl goes missing in a town where the Kid is encamped with the gang. I at first thought it was the black Jackson, as he was late to rejoin the gang the first time, but after the ending I think different. I think the Kid is the sexual predator, the one responsible for the girls disappearing. I think he has been running from himself the whole time. The judge calls him out as the only one not being truthful in his depravity and violence, like he fashions himself better than the rest. I think at the end, he finds the young girl in the outhouse hiding and crying because of the bear, and "the judge" overtakes him. The devil gets him one more time and he kills her. It is the Kid that is the unnamed man who tells the onlookers not to go inside. They open and see what has been done, that is the horror. The Judge is vindicated and dances at the stage, saying that he will never die, as no matter how men try to outrun him, they cannot, and he lives within them forever. It's also implied in the scene before that he attempted to engage a dwarf prostitute in her services, but that he couldn't 'perform'. Why would this scene and the others with missing children (especially the last at the end) be there if they didn't have any significance?
5th Jan '17 6:39:18 PM Stellarvore
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Also, the “he never sleeps, he says he will never die” bit reads a lot like something you’d find in a Cthulhu Mythos story.

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Also, the “he never sleeps, he says he will never die” bit reads a lot like something you’d find in a Cthulhu Mythos story.story.

[[WMG: The mutilated body of the little girl from the saloon is in jakes]]
This troper is not the one who came up with it, but it seems to be a fairly common theory with plenty of evidence to back it up, and a decent alternative to the most widely-accepted one that the Judge murdered the Kid/the Man gruesomely and left him in the jakes.

--> '''Youtube Comment:''' the judge is the devil or at least a representation of him. The Kid avoids him at all costs, and cannot kill him at short distances in the creek, after showing he can hit indians at 100 yards with the pistol. The judge is at the center of depravity throughout. He is in the hut watching the naked imbecile and a young girl, etc. Two other times in the book a young girl goes missing in a town where the Kid is encamped with the gang. I at first thought it was the black Jackson, as he was late to rejoin the gang the first time, but after the ending I think different. I think the Kid is the sexual predator, the one responsible for the girls disappearing. I think he has been running from himself the whole time. The judge calls him out as the only one not being truthful in his depravity and violence, like he fashions himself better than the rest. I think at the end, he finds the young girl in the outhouse hiding and crying because of the bear, and "the judge" overtakes him. The devil gets him one more time and he kills her. It is the Kid that is the unnamed man who tells the onlookers not to go inside. They open and see what has been done, that is the horror. The Judge is vindicated and dances at the stage, saying that he will never die, as no matter how men try to outrun him, they cannot, and he lives within them forever.
13th Dec '16 5:06:27 PM Doug86
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[[WMG: The Judge is [[{{Literature/CthulhuMythos}} Nyarlathotep]]]]

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[[WMG: The Judge is [[{{Literature/CthulhuMythos}} [[Franchise/CthulhuMythos Nyarlathotep]]]]
5th Oct '16 8:24:15 AM Ploopyandproud
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Also, the “he never sleeps, he says he will never die” bit reads a lot like something you’d find in a Cthulhu Mythos story.


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Also, the “he never sleeps, he says he will never die” bit reads a lot like something you’d find in a Cthulhu Mythos story. \n\n
3rd Nov '15 1:32:20 PM datavore55
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Holden is hinted to be a humanoid abomination bent on corrupting the world (war is God, anyone?) in any way he can. Which is Nyarlatothtep’s description in a nutshell. He is charismatic, articulate, impossibly knowledgeable, and his whole persona has a quasi-religious aspect. As far back as his debut in HPL’s stories, the Black Pharaoh (himself something of a Satan substitute) was all of these things. Add to that the whole God With a Thousand Faces thing and you at least have something to think about, The Judge as yet another guise.

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Holden is hinted to be a humanoid abomination bent on corrupting the world (war is God, anyone?) in any way he can. Which is Nyarlatothtep’s description in a nutshell. He is charismatic, articulate, impossibly knowledgeable, and his whole persona has a quasi-religious aspect. As far back as his debut in HPL’s stories, the Black Pharaoh (himself something of a Satan substitute) was all of these things. Add to that the whole God With a Thousand Faces thing and you at least have something to think about, The the Judge as yet another guise.
3rd Nov '15 1:31:24 PM datavore55
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He expounds on the power of science and reason much as Nyarlathotep did in Lovecraft's original story, and acts like the prophet of some twisted new faith. He is incredibly charismatic, and can bring people around to his way of thinking with his rhetorical skills. He regularly does the impossible, whether it be making gun powder from the resources he finds on a mountainside or apparent feats of teleportation. His unusual appearance suggests [[HumanoidAbomination something not entirely (or not even remotely) human]] which fits with most of the Black Pharaoh's many forms. Additionally, his utter depravity and desire to corrupt, control, or destroy everyone around him fits with Nyarlathotep's general character. He doesn't age, he doesn't sleep, he says he will never die...


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He expounds Holden is hinted to be a humanoid abomination bent on corrupting the power of science and reason much as Nyarlathotep did world (war is God, anyone?) in Lovecraft's original story, and acts like the prophet of some twisted new faith. any way he can. Which is Nyarlatothtep’s description in a nutshell. He is incredibly charismatic, articulate, impossibly knowledgeable, and can bring people around to his way of thinking with whole persona has a quasi-religious aspect. As far back as his rhetorical skills. He regularly does debut in HPL’s stories, the impossible, whether it be making gun powder from the resources he finds on a mountainside or apparent feats of teleportation. His unusual appearance suggests [[HumanoidAbomination Black Pharaoh (himself something not entirely (or not even remotely) human]] which fits with most of a Satan substitute) was all of these things. Add to that the Black Pharaoh's many forms. Additionally, his utter depravity whole God With a Thousand Faces thing and desire you at least have something to corrupt, control, or destroy everyone around him fits with Nyarlathotep's general character. He doesn't age, he doesn't sleep, think about, The Judge as yet another guise.
Also, the “he never sleeps,
he says he will never die...

die” bit reads a lot like something you’d find in a Cthulhu Mythos story.

21st Jul '15 8:32:27 PM datavore55
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He expounds on the power of science and reason and generally acts like the prophet of some twisted new faith. He is incredibly charismatic, and can bring people around to his way of thinking with his rhetorical skills. He regularly does the impossible, whether it be making gun powder from the resources he finds on a mountainside or feats of bi-location. His unusual appearance suggests [[HumanoidAbomination something not entirely (or not even remotely) huaman]] which fits with most of the Black Pharaoh's many forms. Additionally, his utter depravity and desire to corrupt, control, or destroy everyone around him fits with Nyarlathotep's views and general methodology. He doesn't age, he doesn't sleep, he says he will never die...


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He expounds on the power of science and reason much as Nyarlathotep did in Lovecraft's original story, and generally acts like the prophet of some twisted new faith. He is incredibly charismatic, and can bring people around to his way of thinking with his rhetorical skills. He regularly does the impossible, whether it be making gun powder from the resources he finds on a mountainside or apparent feats of bi-location. teleportation. His unusual appearance suggests [[HumanoidAbomination something not entirely (or not even remotely) huaman]] human]] which fits with most of the Black Pharaoh's many forms. Additionally, his utter depravity and desire to corrupt, control, or destroy everyone around him fits with Nyarlathotep's views and general methodology.character. He doesn't age, he doesn't sleep, he says he will never die...

5th Jan '15 12:35:06 PM datavore55
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He expounds on the power of science and reason and generally acts like the prophet of some twisted new faith. He is incredibly charismatic, and can bring people around to his way of thinking with his rhetorical skills. He regularly does the impossible, whether it be making gun powder from the resources he finds on a mountainside or feats of bi-location. His unusual appearance suggests [[HumanoidAbomination something not entirely (or not even remotely) huaman]] which fits with most of the Black Pharaoh's many forms. Additionally, his utter depravity and desire to corrupt, control, or destroy everyone around him fits with Nyarlathotep's views and general methodology.

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He expounds on the power of science and reason and generally acts like the prophet of some twisted new faith. He is incredibly charismatic, and can bring people around to his way of thinking with his rhetorical skills. He regularly does the impossible, whether it be making gun powder from the resources he finds on a mountainside or feats of bi-location. His unusual appearance suggests [[HumanoidAbomination something not entirely (or not even remotely) huaman]] which fits with most of the Black Pharaoh's many forms. Additionally, his utter depravity and desire to corrupt, control, or destroy everyone around him fits with Nyarlathotep's views and general methodology. \n He doesn't age, he doesn't sleep, he says he will never die...

5th Jan '15 12:29:33 PM datavore55
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He expounds on the power of science and reason and generally acts like the prophet of some twisted new faith. He regularly does the impossible, whether it be making gun powder from the resources he finds on a mountainside or pulling feats of bi-location. His unusual appearance suggests [[HumanoidAbomination something not entirely (or not even remotely) huaman]] which fits with most of the Black Pharaoh's many forms. Additionally, his utter depravity and desire to corrupt, control, or destroy everyone around him fits with Nyarlathotep's tastes and general methodology.

On a rather disturbing side note, if this is the same Nyarlathotep as [[LightNovel/Haiyore!NyarkoSan! Nyarko]], it may explain her attraction to Mahiro.

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He expounds on the power of science and reason and generally acts like the prophet of some twisted new faith. He is incredibly charismatic, and can bring people around to his way of thinking with his rhetorical skills. He regularly does the impossible, whether it be making gun powder from the resources he finds on a mountainside or pulling feats of bi-location. His unusual appearance suggests [[HumanoidAbomination something not entirely (or not even remotely) huaman]] which fits with most of the Black Pharaoh's many forms. Additionally, his utter depravity and desire to corrupt, control, or destroy everyone around him fits with Nyarlathotep's tastes views and general methodology.

On a rather disturbing side note, if this is the same Nyarlathotep as [[LightNovel/Haiyore!NyarkoSan! Nyarko]], it may explain her attraction to Mahiro.
methodology.
5th Jan '15 12:23:30 PM datavore55
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On a rather disturbing side note, if this is the same Nyarlathotep as [[LightNovel/Haiyore!NyarkoSan! Nyarko]], it may explain her attraction to Mahiro. [[Spoiler If what the Judge may have done to the Kid at the end of the novel is any indication]]

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On a rather disturbing side note, if this is the same Nyarlathotep as [[LightNovel/Haiyore!NyarkoSan! Nyarko]], it may explain her attraction to Mahiro. [[Spoiler If what the Judge may have done to the Kid at the end of the novel is any indication]]
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