History WMG / BleachShikaiOpenTwo

7th May '17 4:56:16 PM allwarden47
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His shikai is making a children's game deadly. His bankai is basically twisting a fable and making it deadly. He doesn't have just one game to choose from. Based on that, there are multiple stories he ''could'' tell from his bankai, that were not practical in any situation. Given how unwieldy the one story he told is, it makes sense that the others would be just as bad, if not worse. Consider that the story affects multiple people, including himself, and damages everyone. What does this sound like? Irooni. The theory is that he has bankai equivalent "stories" for each game. Considering Irooni is arguably the weakest game (It does no damage and has no effect on its own; it requires basic melee attacks anyway, it just mixes things up), the stories that correspond with the other games must be ''nightmarish'' and have an effect that can only be used as a literal last resort, [[Fridge Brilliance just like Yamamoto's Bankai.]]

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His shikai is making a children's game deadly. His bankai is basically twisting a fable and making it deadly. He doesn't have just one game to choose from. Based on that, there are multiple stories he ''could'' tell from his bankai, that were not practical in any situation. Given how unwieldy the one story he told is, it makes sense that the others would be just as bad, if not worse. Consider that the story affects multiple people, including himself, and damages everyone. What does this sound like? Irooni. The theory is that he has bankai equivalent "stories" for each game. Considering Irooni is arguably the weakest game (It does no damage and has no effect on its own; it requires basic melee attacks anyway, it just mixes things up), the stories that correspond with the other games must be ''nightmarish'' and have an effect that can only be used as a literal last resort, [[Fridge Brilliance just like Yamamoto's Bankai.]]
7th May '17 4:55:42 PM allwarden47
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[[WMG: Kyoraku's Bankai has more than one story]]
His shikai is making a children's game deadly. His bankai is basically twisting a fable and making it deadly. He doesn't have just one game to choose from. Based on that, there are multiple stories he ''could'' tell from his bankai, that were not practical in any situation. Given how unwieldy the one story he told is, it makes sense that the others would be just as bad, if not worse. Consider that the story affects multiple people, including himself, and damages everyone. What does this sound like? Irooni. The theory is that he has bankai equivalent "stories" for each game. Considering Irooni is arguably the weakest game (It does no damage and has no effect on its own; it requires basic melee attacks anyway, it just mixes things up), the stories that correspond with the other games must be ''nightmarish'' and have an effect that can only be used as a literal last resort, [[Fridge Brilliance just like Yamamoto's Bankai.]]
11th Feb '17 3:49:28 AM jormis29
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This is because of what Hell in and of itself is, in regards to the afterlife; a jail for the worst of the worst souls. Now that is all well and good, but that's all we get. Hell Verse does give us some other cues to the functions of Hell, but yeah, it's just a jail. So, why aren't the Shinigami breaking down the barriers to bust out these souls, as we have seen, Soul Society does actually have it's own incarceration facilities, and with the whole 'Chains of Hell' no soul gets out, ever. Death, which would normally send a soul back into the cycle of reincarnation, doesn't work, as the soul is still stuck by the chains. In fact the only ones who can break the chains (barring Ichigo because main character status etc) are the Kushanada/those recognised by the Kushanada. Now while that is all well and good for the greater good, does anybody remember why the Quinceys were a problem? Because they upset the balance by removing souls from the cycle, much like Hell does. Thus, through reasoning, by what we've seen thus far of the functions of the afterlives (Hell, Soul Society & Hueco Mundo) Hell also allows souls to reincarnate, but only AFTER the achieve redemption. How this is done, no clue, but if anyone in the series has done so, then it'd be Orihime. Why? Well allow me to answer that with...

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This is because of what Hell in and of itself is, in regards to the afterlife; a jail for the worst of the worst souls. Now that is all well and good, but that's all we get. ''[[Anime/BleachHellVerse Hell Verse Verse]]'' does give us some other cues to the functions of Hell, but yeah, it's just a jail. So, why aren't the Shinigami breaking down the barriers to bust out these souls, as we have seen, Soul Society does actually have it's own incarceration facilities, and with the whole 'Chains of Hell' no soul gets out, ever. Death, which would normally send a soul back into the cycle of reincarnation, doesn't work, as the soul is still stuck by the chains. In fact the only ones who can break the chains (barring Ichigo because main character status etc) are the Kushanada/those recognised by the Kushanada. Now while that is all well and good for the greater good, does anybody remember why the Quinceys were a problem? Because they upset the balance by removing souls from the cycle, much like Hell does. Thus, through reasoning, by what we've seen thus far of the functions of the afterlives (Hell, Soul Society & Hueco Mundo) Hell also allows souls to reincarnate, but only AFTER the achieve redemption. How this is done, no clue, but if anyone in the series has done so, then it'd be Orihime. Why? Well allow me to answer that with...
20th Aug '16 6:08:59 PM SSJMagus
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[[WMG: Nemuri Hachigo from the epilogue is an artificial reincarnation of the original Nemu.]]
Mayuri didn't start over from scratch, because why would he discard his most successful experiment? He used Nemu's preserved brain to put her soul in a new and improved body.
2nd Jun '16 10:21:08 AM DoctorTItanX
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* Or maybe ''worse'': His real plan is ''not'' to destroy Karakura town, but saturating it with spiritual particles, summoning ''[[CannotGraspTrueForm something....]]''

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* Or maybe ''worse'': His real plan is ''not'' to destroy Karakura town, but saturating it with spiritual particles, summoning ''[[CannotGraspTrueForm ''[[YouCannotGraspTrueForm something....]]''
31st May '16 1:51:18 PM Willbyr
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* So Shinigami are [[DragonballZ Saiyans]]? It explains so much!

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* So Shinigami are [[DragonballZ [[Anime/DragonballZ Saiyans]]? It explains so much!
26th May '16 10:42:13 AM Willbyr
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** Alternatively, Cain and Abel were actually the same person with split personality and... hang on. [[{{Shiki}} Wrong anime]].

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** Alternatively, Cain and Abel were actually the same person with split personality and... hang on. [[{{Shiki}} [[Manga/{{Shiki}} Wrong anime]].
5th May '16 2:54:27 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* So, Chad's [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Simon]]?

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* So, Chad's [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Simon]]?
18th Apr '16 10:50:46 AM Willbyr
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I heard that Kubo mentioned SaintSeiya was an inspiration for him; and Unohana even said that he must not see Aizen's shikai, [[http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/381/16/ no matter what]].

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I heard that Kubo mentioned SaintSeiya ''Manga/SaintSeiya'' was an inspiration for him; and Unohana even said that he must not see Aizen's shikai, [[http://www.onemanga.com/Bleach/381/16/ no matter what]].
11th Apr '16 11:36:22 PM aye_amber
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My thought is that Soul Society and Hueco Mundo are in the same realm, just really, really far apart- far enough that the souls in either location don't realise it- and the different methods of travel to and from the Real World are just different tewhines that do basicly the same thing but with cosmetic differences, like shunpo/sonido. The realm they're in (possibly also containing other groups like Hueco Mundo and Soul Society) is actually Purgatory, the place souls go when they're waiting to be judged; if they haven't been notable enough in the Living WOrld to move on directly to Heaven or Hell, they have enough time in Soul Society/Hueco Mundo for that to be determined. Eventually souls, having been through their reward or punishment, are then returned to the Living World to start over.

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My thought is that Soul Society and Hueco Mundo are in the same realm, just really, really far apart- far enough that the souls in either location don't realise it- and the different methods of travel to and from the Real World are just different tewhines that do basicly the same thing but with cosmetic differences, like shunpo/sonido. The realm they're in (possibly also containing other groups like Hueco Mundo and Soul Society) is actually Purgatory, the place souls go when they're waiting to be judged; if they haven't been notable enough in the Living WOrld World to move on directly to Heaven or Hell, they have enough time in Soul Society/Hueco Mundo for that to be determined. Eventually souls, having been through their reward or punishment, are then returned to the Living World to start over.
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