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[[folder:Axis Powers Characters]]
!The Axis
WMG regarding [[AxisPowersHetalia/TheAxis North Italy, Germany,and Japan ]].

[[WMG: NaziGermany is Germany's evil SplitPersonality.]]
* This could explain why Germany seems to be a pretty good guy most of the time, but was a total psychopath during WorldWarTwo. Both personalities share a lot of the same traits, but Nazi-Germany had no moral problem with the horrible things he did during the war. Then, post WWII, England, America, France and Russia brought him to a nation psychologist, who was able to get rid of Nazi-Germany for good. Yay!
** Germany was still the same no matter what during WorldWarTwo. It's just that he always followed orders no matter how disgusting or crazy he thought they were. So more of a case of JustFollowingOrders really.
*** Maybe it wasn't just that he had to obey his boss. Maybe he was also subject to the collective will of his people. Maybe nation-tans have much less free will than individuals do; as long as the majority of the people don't defy a dictator, the nation-tan can't defy him either.
**** If that were the case, Germany would have got the hell out of Dodge before 1939. Or did you forget the mass immigration from Germany at the time? It's what got Albert Einstein in the United States.
** The Nazis gained a lot of momentum when Germany was put through a period of poverty, humiliation, and starvation. Pretty good motivators to start following desperate (and awful) ideas, but even so it took a while to slip into depravity. This theory probably has more momentum in explaining how Germany could be oblivious to what was going on while simultaneously performing genocide; however, there's enough real issues that mental illness doesn't have to be resorted to.
*** Mental illness, or simply following the results of the obedience tests sociologists started undertaking shortly thereafter.
*** I stopped for a bit to consider the implications of Nazi Germany being a different person and here's what I came up with, run with me here: if Nazi Germany was a different person we can only assume that because he was unable to properly latch on to the population he would have died at the end of the war and the same would go for any other country who's had a schism. Now, if every such schism were to result in a new Nation-tan and that Nation-tan were to actually ''win'' then what would happen to the old one? He would become obsolete and die wouldn't he, and the new one would replace him but Nation-tans always seem to be the same person. Here's the point I'm getting at: the only way the new Nation-tan could rise to power is by doing away with the old one and assuming his position. This means that the France in the Chibitalia strips was not a ''younger'' version of the one in ''Bloodbath'', he was the ''original'' France. The modern-day France in ''Bloodbath'' is the Fifth Republic who at the very least is France Version 10. In short, if every faction was it's own Nation-tan then it's quite possible that the modern nations are just versions of the past ones, all with the exact same face. Kind of makes them seem a bit cruel doesn't it?...
*** But Germany taking orders from his boss and being oblivious to it is canon. Besides, tons of germans died too and Germany isn't missing, like, an arm or something else that's Nation-tan code for slaughtering a bunch of your own. I'd say he's acting as his nation as a whole, and when the majority is following Hitler he follows Hitler, though he definatley isn't eager to some stuff. That last part is canon too by the way, he's even called them "weird" a few times.

[[WMG: The two Italys are the [[SuperMarioBros Mario Brothers]]]]
Or rather, a shout-out to them. From Romano's POV, Veneziano is a total Mario with his RenaissanceMan skills at art and cooking. Romano is the Luigi and he hates it.
This would also make a great explanation of why there are two of them.
* Except that there were two Italys in History.
** Your logic has no place on WMG.
* [[{{Series/SuperMarioWorld}} That's Mama Romano to you, Veneziano! *Wheeze*]]

[[WMG: Italy is [[BewareTheNiceOnes stronger than he looks.]]]]
''Potentially'' stronger, at least. Italy is too lazy to show that he ''can'' kick ass, which is why he never got up and fought till now.
* This theory is backed by one strip where young Italy decides [[ThisIsUnforgivable enough]] [[ItsPersonal is]] [[IFeelAngry enough]] and [[http://i40.tinypic.com/29ol451.png gives Turkey]] [[LetsGetDangerous a flying kick to the face]].
* Confirmed by WordOfGod. Italy isn't physically weak, but the enemy is scary and pasta is delicious, and there's a pretty girl over there.
** There is also the strip of Italy looking serious at the battle of Custoza when he fights against Austria
* Did no one remember that IRL, Italy is the country most associated with ''the mafia''?
** Well, technically it's Romano that is involved with the mafia.
** Mafia ≠ military strength, in any case.

[[WMG: Holy Roman Empire becomes Germany when he grows up and forgets about his childhood when this happens.]]
The dissolving of the empire brought him to lose his memory. After its fall, the Holy Roman Empire dissolved into several parts; but the 'original' HRE became Germany. Because he became Germany, he lost all his memories as HRE. HRE didn't divide into Ludwig and Gilbert because Gilbert existed long before. Also, HRE and Germany look similar. This is not just to make the TearJerker less heartbreaking.
* There is a good fanart entry in the livejournal community about this where HRE lost his memory after being "Napoleon'd". [[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/474207.html Here it is.]]
* [[{{HSQ}} Holy Shit!]] Possibly '''confirmed''' [[spoiler: at the end of]] [[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/787290.html#cutid1 this strip]]. Let us all {{Squee}} now.
* Alternatively, HRE did divide into a lot of countries, but the Germany we know in the later eras is the almagation of these (He has Prussia living in/with him somewhere, then?). He won't get his memories back until and unless he can amalgamate all the former HRE countries, which will coincide with the apex of Axis Power in WW2.
* Historical support for this theory is that the Pope had crowned Charlemagne, a German, as the Holy Roman Emperor.
* This theory has spawned at least one [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5677669/1/The_Boy_Who_Couldnt_Grow fanfic]].
* Perhaps once Germany admitted to himself that he might actually care for Italy his memories became unblocked.
* History even goes so far as to give us the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Germany Kingdom of Germany]] that grew out of the earlier state of the East Franks (East Francia). However, Austria was shown to be the one in charge during that era (which [[FanNickname I like to refer to]] Hetalia-wise as [[IncrediblyLamePun "Bosstria"]]). By that logic, HRE as we knew him in Hetalia was likely the actual state of East Francia/Kingdom of Germany. When The HRE was formed, this Kingdom took on the role of Empire, but with Austria being the guy running the show (the HRE was, for the most part, controlled from Vienna by the Hapsburgs). He would later call himself "The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation", merging both concepts. Since most people wouldn't have known about this, it stands to reason that pretty much everybody only knew him as HRE and never knew of his previous name. Thus, no one took notice when "Germany" made his (re)entrance on the European scene (this time, with Prussia pulling the strings). This also allows Germany to survive despite [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/etc.html the statement by France in that one side-comic]] where he said that HRE "is no more" (scroll down to see it). He said nothing about ''Ludwig'' (or about actual death, for that matter, but that might just be the translation). Also, Italy's a grade-A ditz. He likely wouldn't recognize the clues even if they were pointed right out to him. Oddly enough, The Kingdom of Germany exists in roughly the same area as "West Germany", adding to the theory. There's also no reason why the "amalgamation" theory also couldn't fit into this: while HRE was the Kingdom of Germany, maybe modern Germany is the Kingdom of Germany after he took over and merged with the other states that came to exist, in a sort of re-unification?
* More teasing from the movie. While there were several cutaways throughout the movie, most of them had some plot relevance or included a joke. All except one that happens after Italy runs away and Germany can't go after him. Then, we are given a few seconds of Chibitalia and HRE saying each other's names. Nothing else happens, and it comes at an emotional moment between Germany and Italy. Really, how else are we supposed to take this?
* [[http://i.imgur.com/2T4lB.jpg This strip]] (found the link on this wiki - can anyone confirm its official placement?) shows Holy Rome trying to assert authority over his bickering Germanic states, demanding that they take turns speaking. We first meet Germany when...he's asserting authority over a bunch of bickering nations, demanding that they take turns speaking, although the more-robust Germany manages to do so without [[BloodFromTheMouth bleeding from the mouth]]. Either Germany started the way he meant to go on, or there's an awful lot of GenerationXerox among the nations.

[[WMG:Russia and Germany are related via [[{{Anime/Monster}} Johan.]]]]
Johan is German, blond, a creep with no conscience, a StepfordSmiler, and sadistic. Johan and Anna are Russia and Germany's love children, and either countries or normal people. Johan had his father's looks and Mother Russia's creepiness; Anna got her father's 'good' personality. Also, the flashback is a lie; Anna and Johan were given away to their 'mother' because Russia and Germany weren't ready to come out of the closet.
* Not ready? [[HoYay This is Hetalia]]!
** Maybe it was more of a brief fling that both sides regretted afterward and therefore don't like to talk about. Of course the LawOfInverseFertility had to kick in and result in Johan and Anna.

[[WMG: The characters are not actually the personifications of different countries, but rather some drunken College roommates who decided to reenact history for the hell of it.]]

[[WMG:Japan is the one who's {{tsundere}} for Korea]]
... possibly due to being a recovering {{yandere}}. When they were younger, he got into fights with Korea, raided his vital regions, and tried to make him be one with him; now he overcompensates by denying it entirely. He secretly keeps a stack of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_wave Korean Wave]] products - along with a copy of that drawing of them playing together.
* Japan even let Korea grope him once.
* It wasn't just when he was younger. Japan was occupying/oppressing Korea until the World Wars were over, and there are still people in Japan who don't consider Korea an independent nation (needless to say, relations between the two are awful). And it's not just their stint in Korea that they deny, Japan has a 'don't talk about it' stance on a lot of their less savory history.

[[WMG: North Italy's incompetence can be blamed on the Italian unification.]]
* South Italy's territory has been more or less the same since the end of the Roman Empire (he's basically Kingdom of Sicily/Naples/Two Sicilies who gained the territory of the Papal States, but they didn't fully merge - the Papal States still exists as the Vatican City). North Italy, however, is the result of a [[FusionDance merging]] of Republic of Venice, Kingdom of Sardinia, Grand Duchy of Tuscany, Duchy of Modena, Duchy of Parma, and others. Canon has shown that the Republic of Venice was capable of kicking ass as a child. We've seen nothing of the rest of the north Italian states, however. It's likely that Sardinia & Co. we're incompetent cowards, and when they merged with Venice to form Italia Veneziano, the ''hetare'' of the many overpowered the BadAss of the one.
** Romano was always a crybaby, though.
** And he's incompetent because Spain spoiled him rotten and allowed him to basically do nothing of value, which allowed him to grow into a whiny, useless adult.

[[WMG: Germany isn't the only one with memory problems]]
It's already been stated that Germany may or may not be the Holy Roman Empire with memory loss. But Italy seems to have his share of missing memories as well. In particular, he seemed to really love the HRE and promised to wait for him forever, but in the modern strips, Italy seems to have no recollection of that promise. Or maybe he just instinctively senses that Germany is HRE?
* I don't think he's neglecting it, with Germany at least... Italy's not flirting with Germany (we've seen Italy flirt with women before, and it doesn't look like what he does with Germany). Italy seems to just be a kind of goofy/touchy-feel-y personality with his friends; like one of those people who's a flirt without realizing it, simply because they're big on contact (he probably just refrains with Japan because of the initial reaction, whereas Germany is willing to play along). [[spoiler: Italy, as seen in the Valentine comic, doesn't seem to be aware of his effect on Germany; in that even when presented with the other's feelings he can't understand what caused them. It's also probably due a lot to his being oblivious to cultural differences (such as red roses, and Valentine gifts at all, being only for serious lovers in Germany). Italy, there, makes several adamant decrees of love to Germany simply because he doesn't know what sorts of signals he's sending out; and likewise Germany misinterprets because he (despite his best efforts) doesn't understand the more lighthearted intentions that were behind them. Austria seems better attuned to Italy's culture; as he, when described the relationship which he initially deemed to be sexual (constant kissing, hugging, and sleeping naked together), quickly recanted his first statement when he realized that Germany was speaking about Italy. It stands to reason, as Austria spent a significantly greater amount of time with Italy than Germany (or HRE, for that matter) did.]] Or, going a slightly different way, maybe Italy's saving love/his virginity for HRE, but not denying himself anything beyond that? I'm more well-acquainted with literature than anything else, so I can only say that such a belief occurs quite frequently there at least. It wouldn't surprise me if it were also a common trait for anime.
* Well Italy ''definitely'' remembers HRE at least (he says outright to Germany that his first love was another boy [[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/735352.html]] it's about halfway down the page maybe?).
* [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/etc.html There]] is a scraped bit of strip showing France telling a grown Italy that HRE is dead and that he should forget about him. (Scroll down to see it.) By time he meets Germany he would be well aware that his first love is long gone so flirting with other people isn't all that strange.
** I propose that EVERYONE has memory problems. If a nation goes through a major shift, then they change and lose memories of ever being different. This is illustrated in Raven Tears,(see Hetalia FanFicRecs, General, towards the very bottom of that section) where Canada and America used to be darker, but as the land got taken over by Britain and France, they started looking more European, forgetting their own mother, and Canada started speaking only french and America started speaking only English (this is especially sad to me, because that means that they ''might not even know that they are brothers''.)and that sort of thing used to be very, very common when there were still land wars, but in more modern times this specific type of amnesia doesn't affect anyone anymore, due to borders being kind of set in stone. France and England used to be Gaul and [whatever the British isles were before but I suck at history and don't know] and they can't remember. In the finale, it will be the end of time and everyone will remember everything. (I should probably put that as its own WMG)

[[WMG: England and Germany are related]]
Via Germania. Basically, England was first called England by the Anglo-Saxons who were Germanic, having invaded Britain after the Roman army abandoned it and at least partly ousted the native population. Arthur came into existence at the same time, eventually replacing his mother Britannia. Obviously, while he gets his hair color from Germania the eyebrows are from his mother's side. As for exactly what this makes them (cousins? half-siblings?) I'm not entirely sure.
* England might also be the Italys' cousin, if Britannia (aka Roman Britain) was a new individual and not just the nation-tan of the original Celtic island with a change of name and stuck in Rome's house.
* Well, English is classified as a Germanic language, so it makes sense that there was some intermingling of blood along the way.
** English ''is'' a Germanic language. It's just that it had a healthy dose of French, Latin, and (believe it or not) mathematics that make it seem like it's something else.
*** You're leaving out a fair helping of Greek as well as whatever bits and pieces it finds useful from any other languages. I refers to English as the "cannibal language" for a reason.
* If they aren't related, their royalty certainly is. The only reason we now have the House of Windsor was because dear [[KingBobTheNth King George V]] decided Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (which is Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha in German) was not a good name to have during the start of World War I, in which England and Germany were on opposite sides. So basically King George V gave a [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething royal "f*ck you"]] to his [[BigScrewedUpFamily cousin, Kaiser Wilhelm II]], who was then king of Prussia and Germany at the time.
* Going along with England being related to Germany via Germania, couldn't France also be related to them, seeing as how originally France was inhabited by the Franks after the fall of Rome, the Franks being a Germanic tribe. It's also called the "Frankish Kingdom" about the time of Charlemagne; I have no idea how to explain French being a Romanesque language.
** Well, prior to the Franks moving into the area, it was called Gaul and was populated largely by Celts. It was conquered by Julius Ceasar some time in the 1st century B.C.E., and the Gauls over time adopted the Latin language as their own. When the Franks overran that area, their own language influenced the development of the modern French language but did not change the largely Latin roots. It's really quite similar to how Latin had an influence on English but could not change that it is, at its core, Germanic.
* This troper has a crack theory. Ancient Britain/Britannia hated Rome's guts, but she, like her child(ren), was an alcoholic. She once got drunk with Rome. Nine months later, a tsundere with huge eyebrows was born. YES, ENGLAND IS THE ITALIES' UNCLE! Of course, this theory is total crack and should not be taken seriously.

[[WMG:After WorldWarTwo, Germany became TheAtoner.]]
He felt absolutely ''terrible'' for the things his "[[AdolfHitler crazy boss]]" made him do. He wanted to atone so much that he let America in to comfort him after almost being destroyed (i.e., Marshall Plan), and he also does not [[NoSwastikas like being reminded of the time period in which he was coerced into doing all that horrible stuff]].
* Seems to be proven in the first episode of the anime. Germany distinctly said that there wouldn't be any talking about the war.
** He only says anything to that effect in the dub.
* Not so much anymore. Germany is moving towards a much more self-oriented stance than its had in the past few decades, and even actively trying to get rid of the non-Germans (or at least non-German culture) in the country.
** Er, ''no''?
*** [[http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9ITKQ8G0&show_article=1 Actually...]] [[http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,14983040,00.html?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf It's only]] [[http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/04/13/skilled_turkish_immigrants_leaving_germany/ doing so well at integration]]. [[http://www.roubini.com/analysis/119108.php And attitudes about where they fit into Europe are changing from the older generations.]]

[[WMG: Japan is a HaremSeeker.]]
Think about it. He's had HoYay with almost ''half'' of the [[LoadsandLoadsofCharacters cast]]. He's [[XanatosGambit manipulating]] the other nation-tans into becoming part of his harem.
** He had already Taiwan and both Koreas in his harem, so why not add China and Manchuria on the list?

[[WMG: In the episode where Italy was thrown out the window by Germany, and was thrown back with a leaf on his head, Prussia threw Italy back.]]
Because Prussia wears a leaf on his head just like that, and Italy seems impressionable.
* Prussia had a leaf caught in his hair because he'd been hiding in the bushes while spying on Austria, and that's the only reason and only time it happened.

[[WMG: The strip where Japan doesn't recognize Lithuania refers, at least in part, to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiune_Sugihara Chiune Sugihara]].]]
[[http://aph.starry-sky.com/grc2.html See here]]. Lithuania mentions that "You really helped us out before." While stationed in the Japanese Consulate in Lithuania, Sugihara issued thousands of visas to Jewish refugees, a large number of which were Polish (hence explaining Lithuania's plural), but his heroism went unrecognized in his home country for decades. Hence, Japan has no idea what Lithuania's talking about.

[[WMG: Germany is Sweden and Norway's son]]
Well the theory is that after the time Norway finally forfeited to be in a personal union with Sweden via [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_of_Moss Convention of Moss]], Norway unwittingly bore the personification of the German Confederation around the time with Sweden. Mostly linked with dates of the Convention (August 14, 1814) to the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_of_Vienna Congress of Vienna (June 8-9, 1815)]] to roughly coincide with a human pregnancy. At the earliest date of conception, Germany would have been a late term pregnancy. This is a pretty convincing theory if the one with "Germany is The Holy Roman Empire" and [[MisterSeahorse male pregnancy]] implication with Norway was disregared (unless GenderBending [[AWizardDidIt was somehow]] [[FirstLawOfGenderBending implemented]]). [[http://blog-imgs-17-origin.fc2.com/h/i/m/himaruya/nagurenai.jpg It doesn't help that Little!Germany]] [[http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/images/hetalia/8/82/YoungSweden_Finland.jpg looks a lot like Sweden...]]

[[WMG: HRE and Germany are not the same person at all, except they have the same body.]]
Prussia somehow manage to find HRE's dead body, and make it into the Germany we have now. (I guess we can say the 'soul' is different? )
* This can also explain why Germany met Italy for the first time in WWI battle field, despite the two countries were allies before the war: Prussia deliberately arrange so, to avoid North Italy seeing a young Germany who was identical to Holy Roman Empire.

[[WMG: Hitler imprisoned Germany in the concentration camps.]]
Hear me out. If it comes to it I don't think that Germany would agree that much with what his boss did and maybe eventually join the resistance, getting caught, and knowing that he couldn't kill his nation he imprisoned him instead.
* Personally, I go with the theory that nation-tans don't know everything that their bosses get up to. I do agree that Germany does not seem like the kind of person who would go along with what was happening. And although I've never seen this before, I've seen stories where Prussia was imprisoned (usually without his brother's knowledge).

[[WMG: Germany=HRE, and Prussia, Austria and Hungary are the only ones who know.]]
Basically, Germany/HRE is found by Prussia after the dismantling of the HRE by Napoleon. Prussia thinks "I'll just see how he is", but when Prussia discovers that G/HRE has no memories, he decides to adopt him as his little brother. He never tells Germany the truth, because there are a lot of people who'd be interested in finding and possibly hurting HRE. Everyone just assumes that HRE is dead (including Italy).

Hungary, Austria and Prussia are, of course, friends. When Hungary and Austria first see Chibigermany, they shit a brick as they recognise him. They demand an explanation from Prussia, who explains and asks them to help him protect Germany. They agree (Austria figuring that it'd be too much trouble if Germany knew, and Hungary recognising the possibilities of a happy reunion between Veneziano and Germany) and so Germany grew up with no knowledge of where he came from.

However, this won't last. Germany can tell that something's not quite right - he keeps having flashbacks, and he was older then most nations at his "birth"/first memory. He'll eventually ask Prussia what his deal is. As there's really no reason for anyone to want to hurt HRE/Germany any more, Prussia shows him a crate full of his old stuff, including the underwear/broom. The Underwear/broom that Chibitalia gave to HRE so that HRE could be reminded of Chibitalia, which will turn out to be a ChekhovsGun as Germany's memories return. Cue ''epic-level freak-out'' from Germany as all his feelings for Italy come back in a rush.

Hungary, upon finding out, will go and get Italy, saying "Germany has something to tell you!" What follows will be a tearful and happy reunion between the two, along with one super-happy YaoiFangirl Hungarian and one ''seriously'' pissed off South Italian.

[[WMG: Italy is photosensitive.]]
He always keeps his eyes closed because he can't stand bright light. This could be due to just having weak eyes, or it could be due to something that happened when he was Chibitalia. This is supported by the fact that the only two times that he's ever shown with them open (in the anime, at least) is for a moment in the first episode, which took place indoors, so he wouldn't have as much of a problem compared to direct sunlight, and in the latest (possibly last) episode, which was shown to be very cloudy and maybe about to rain. He probably got used to doing things with his eyes closed a very long time ago. The other Italians, like Romano and Seborga, could also have this issue, but not to the extent that Veneziano has.

[[WMG:During WWII there were was more than one Germany.]]
* There's all sorts of WMG about Germany having split personalities or not knowing what was happening in himself. My theory is that there was a ''Nazi'' Germany. A [[KidsAreCruel small child]] nation in a SS uniform, blond haired and blue eyed, possibly being brought up by Hitler. Germany knew about this, was aware that as the child grew he would die. The other nations may have smothered Nazi, or Hitler did before he killed himself.

[[WMG:Japan's thing for NaughtyTentacles ...]]
* ... came about because of incidents in his youth with [[HPLovecraft R'lyeh-tan]].

[[WMG:Germany is [[LegendofZelda Link]]]].
* He has blond hair and blue eyes like Link's many incarnations and "link" is German for "left". But the main reason is because it would be really cool.

[[WMG:Japan is clinically depressed.]]
Think about it; he's always going on about how old he feels, while China is much older (and Korea might be older too, anon's not sure) but still acts young. Feeling tired all the time, being reclusive ({{Hikikomori}} for ''two hundred years)'', rarely expressing emotion ...

[[WMG:Germany has yet to comprehend that he is a Nazi.]]
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[[folder:Allies Characters]]
!Allied Forces
WMG regarding [[AxisPowersHetalia/JusticeDestinyStrikeFreedom America, England, Russia, France, and China]]

[[WMG:America gets his FriendToAllLivingThings trait from Native America.]]
Native Americans are usually shown to be more connected with nature and usually have a NonHumanSidekick. This carried over to Colonial America. So even though he might do things that harm the environment, animals still flock to him.
* [[http://kitkatoreo.deviantart.com/art/Mamas-and-their-Children-125725941 Played with]] in one piece of fanart that showed America's and Canada's potential mother.
** Only that Alfred isn't descended from Native Americans any more than Canada is, the two come from the European colonists who settled in North America. There is a Native American-Tan, and chances are he lives on a reservation right now while America has run of the rest of the country. Eskimo-Tan, Inuit-Tan, etc., would be in their respective states/provinces/territories, they wouldn't be either Canada or America.
*** Alternately, Canada and America could have originated from the Norsemen who first made their way to the North American continent in the 11th century. Could help explain why little America looked a lot like Finland.
**** Norsemen are still European...
*** Perhaps the nations of the Americas are descended from Native America(s?), but have been raised so long by the Europeans that they've been assimilated? I don't know about America, but In Canada, we have a decent-sized population of Native groups that have adopted French and English culture.
**** Wouldn't it make more sense that those native groups are represented by the Native-Tan?
**** Perhaps America and Canada were born to a Native America, and then were stolen from her when they were still young, and their white skin, blonde hair and blue eyes were omens that they would be raised by Europeans. They were too young to remember her when they were taken away, and England (or whoever was taking care of them at the time) raised them to believe that she's just a crazy savage who used to live there, and is of no relation to them.

[[WMG: America is an ancestor of Indiana Jones]]
Indy and his father's line descends from one of Alfred's early "adventures" in courtship. It explains the otherwise daring, brash and headstrong attitude of the explorer. It probably also helped in letting Indy into government secrets in the events leading up to Crystal Skull, and shows how he can survive a ride in a nuclear fridge. (C'mon, you know the scene)

[[WMG: England was in a mode of UnstoppableRage as well as OneManArmy in the last scene of TheAmericanRevolution.]]
He didn't seem to have any soldiers with him, so he was fighting on his own. America had SuperStrength, but England knocked his gun right out of his hands.
* It's hard to know where to correct this one first. The English were one of the most powerful military units at the time, and the American victory (miraculous as it was) had more to do with the benefits of guerrilla warfare than with SuperStrength. By the point the scene took place, the interest in continuing to fight to hold the colonies had waned. The English had pulled most of their forces, and a large number of loyalists had fled the country, so the fighting would have been with small numbers on the English side anyway. That doesn't mean that the English were any less of a fighting force, or that England was weaker than America, just that the motivation to continue the aggression was all but gone.
** You might be misunderstanding a bit. In that particular scene England is shown by himself, without any soldiers. America however, had at least 20 guys standing behind him, guns all pointed at England. America has been shown being able to swing a wildabeast around by the tail at 4 at the oldest. England knocks the gun out of his hands like it's nothing.
*** It's not a misunderstanding. England's lack of men represented a lack of interest by the British people in holding the colony, not the strength of the colonists (it was a war won by luck and coincidence, more than anything). Had the British come at full force, they could have slaughtered the colonists.
*** We're talking about the characters in the scene, not the context about the real world that it's representing.

[[WMG: The American Revolution psychologically broke England to the point that he refuses to go through the strain of another war with his colonies ever again.]]
England spoiled America rotten, only to be rewarded with America's "betrayal." The strain of trying to persuade America to return to him and then failing and having to deal with the fact that his former ward is now a grown country in his own right thoroughly broke him. As a result, England has given his former colonies freedom more peacefully than any other former imperialist power. As soon as they prove that they can be mature nations willing to solve things in a non-violent way, he will stop trying to persuade them to stay because he cannot and will not suffer through the strain of a revolution again. He was too deeply traumatized by his history with his former favorite "brother," America.
* Except that England didn't give up most of his territories until he was forced to by treaties surrounding the World Wars, and in cultures like India he was oppressive from beginning to end. The reason the American Revolution happened was because a peaceful solution simply couldn't be reached (despite both party's attempts), and the reason it ended was because England didn't have the time, money, or interest to continue trying to hold the colony when he had issues like fighting France on the European front. It wasn't that he mentally broke, nor is it unlikely that he would have gone to war with another territory if the same situation had occurred.
* Well, he managed to be involved in a three-year guerrilla War of Independence with Ireland after WW1, and Ireland was part of the British Empire for much longer than America, so he can't have been that broken. Mind you, he refused to admit it was a war, so YourMileageMayVary on that one...
** Isn't Ireland one of England's actual brothers? They've apparently never gotten along at all, since the brothers would drive England off with rocks and arrows when he was a child (and sent [send?] curses in the mail). If anything, the Irish War of Independence would be a brotherly spat that escalated to that point. England raised America and was betrayed. I think the feel of the two different wars would be completely different if Ireland and the other brothers get portrayed in the future.
* But England was still colonising after America. Although there's the fact that Australia was colonised to replace America (direct quote from the Other Wiki "Following the loss of the American Colonies after the American War of Independence 1775-1783, Great Britain needed to find alternative land for a new British colony. Australia was chosen for settlement, and colonisation began in 1788." ) so take from that what you will. Regardless, there were also other colonies like Antigua and Barbuda, Bangladesh, Jamaica, and others that have tried to revolt against England as well, except he cracked down on his other colonies to stop any revolutions breaking out. Also, I believe it was just before 1960 but he also had a war with Cyprus when Cyprus had wanted to go back to living with Greece, and England only backed out of that war because Greece and Turkey FINALLY agreed (on something) that they didn't want England having Cyprus. I know this isn't the same as the relation between England and America, but certainly it does show he didn't just back down after that one war. In my opinion, England probably only hardened after the Revolutionary War with America, because he hadn't wanted another nation to get that close to him and hurt him again once they betrayed him. Yes, he did let his other colonies have Independence gradually and peacefully, but only after he tried everything else to oppress the smaller ones until he had no option but to give it to them or go to war (and no one wanted that after the World Wars). There were also many other factors involved, which you'd have to look up when the first British Dominions came about to actually understand these factors.

[[WMG: Similarly, China is avoiding Korea to avoid the heartbreak Japan gave him.]]
Think about it. Korea is as close, if not closer, to China as Japan once was, but China seems to shun him all the time. Even though it's plainly obvious Korea's being annoying out of affection. Think about it - if being close to Japan nearly killed him, China obviously wouldn't want to go near Korea...
** The Chinese and Koreans don't like each other, but they've become significantly closer allies because of their hatred of Japan. China tends to side with Korea, if given the option.

[[WMG: England represents only Britain, but stands in for the rest of the UK at world meetings.]]
As in, Wales, Scotland and Ireland (or Northern Ireland, depending on the time period) all exist as their own people who are constantly heckling England, but they never get to show up at world meetings. Which is weird when it comes to Ireland in modern times because it is it's own country now.
* Ireland probably has his or her own spot at the world meetings now. North Ireland is likely a child embroiled in a custody battle.
* ...you meant it the other way around, no? Britain = the UK. Great Britain: England, Scotland and Wales. England = England. In any case, Ireland used to be its own country before being conquered by England, so it's more than possible that he was there all along, with Scotland and Wales, it's just that in those times there were no world meetings.
* Not a theory, it's already canon. WordOfGod says that Arthur is England, but he represents the UK at meetings because his brothers get too rowdy. Ireland is its own country, and would represent itself.

[[WMG: Conversely, America inherited his looks from one of the Nordic countries. Canada may also apply.]]
While it's still debatable, many scholars do agree that the Nordics were likely the first outsiders to set foot in the North American continent. And in the "Fight for America" strips, there was a panel possibly hinting that America and Finland shared a resemblance to each other. And given Canada and America's physical similarities, it's likely they have the same Nordic origins.
* Considering how there has been evidence found for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Anse_aux_Meadows early Viking settlements in Canada that predate Columbus by a few hundred years]], having America and Canada descended from the early Nordic warriors wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
** Columbus' landing had nothing to do with either America or Canada. [[http://www.mrnussbaum.com/explorers/columbusroute.gif He dind't land anywhere near them.]] It more has to do with the eventual Spanish domination of South America than anything.
* Didn't it say somewhere that America got looks from Germanic heritage? It would make sense, with how much of the population and culture can boast it, but am I remembering incorrectly?
** It didn't say anything about his looks, just that he mixed with a lot of Germanic blood. It's probably just in reference to German-American being the biggest ethnic group in the US. Chibi-America still looked like non-chibi-America, anyway, before he got more German settlers.
*** But that depends on whether something like immigration can alter a nation's personal appearance. The US population is becoming increasingly Hispanic/Latino, so does that mean America could, theoretically, look like a Latino in the future?
* In the Christmas Bloodbath 2010, Finland tells America he can think of him as his father, because "You've got some genes from my people". I think Himaruya is definitely leaning towards this.
** I just pictured a family photo with Finland, Sweden, Sealand, America and Canada. It's actually a fairly cute image.

[[WMG:England used to have several more siblings]]
Or at the least several more people living in his house. Prior to the Norman Conquest, England was made up of several kingdoms which didn't really get along all that well, ergo Arthur had a bigger family and there was a lot of sibling rivalry. What happened after the kingdoms were all merged into one is uncertain; either they're still in England's house like Prussia's still in Germany's, or, more likely, they ceased to exist, which might explain why England took America ditching him so hard (losing most of your family is going to leave you a little fragile, even after several centuries).
* Lets see, the Heptarchy was made up of seven kingdoms,Northumbria, Mercia, East Anglia, Essex, Kent, Sussex and Wessex, although Northumbria itself was made up of two kingdoms, Deira and Bernicia, and there was another seven or so smaller kingdoms/sub-kingdoms. Add in the rest of the British Isles and you've got a really big family which based on history suffered from a serious case of sibling rivalry.
* Given that the word 'England' was first used long after the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms came into being, they were probably his older siblings, who depending on which kingdom had the most power at the time took turns raising England after their mother died until they ceased to exist round about the time of the Norman Conquest (some might have gone before then) and kiddie England went from being the fought over and possibly much loved baby of a large, unruly and frankly somewhat dysfunctional family to being on his own apart from three surviving siblings (Scotland, Wales and Ireland) who didn't like him. Poor Arthur.
* Well, most things were made up of multiple parts; what became Germany was made up of 39 different states after the HRE collapsed. What happened to them is really up to how small of a body fans want to mandate a Nation-Tan require. Most say that once a culture stops recognizing them, they die; so chances are a great deal of them are dead. But then there are others who say that there are those that change into regions (in the way that states for the US become personified), so depending on how you read the canon some might still be alive...
** Hmm, good point. Let's see, Wessex no longer exists in any capacity so he's a goner. Kent managed to survive more or less intact, territory wise, so they might still be hanging around, although I don't know if they fit the culture requirement. Speaking of which, given the fact that northeners consider themselves separate from southeners, at least one or two of the Northumbrias might still be hanging in there, although on the other hand they got put through the wringer more then the others because of the whole Danelaw thing. Gah, this whole thing's getting the better of me. If I could draw properly I'd probably be drawing the various personifications in question by now.
*** Seeing as how Alfred the Great and his descendants, being the kings of Wessex, were the ones to unite England as a Kingdom, maybe England ''is'' Wessex. Or at least his immediate Successor. Seeing as how Mercia was the predominant kingdom of the Heptarchy, based in central England, Iggy could have started out life as him (the rulers of Mercia often took the title "Bretwalda", meaning "Britain Wielder", roughly meaning "High King of Britain/England"). Alternatively, England is the result of an amalgamated Wessex and Mercia (definitely them, but possibly including some of the other kingdoms) merged into a single kingdom. Supporting this is the fact that Alfred allowed the Mercians to keep some of their autonomy, rather than outright annexing them to Wessex. This, combined with his patronage of vernacular Old English and a focus on unification, would have caused Wessex, Mercia, and the others to be subsumed into a larger English identity.
**** The term 'bretwalda' wasn't just applied to the Mercian kings, it was used to refer to the king of whichever kingdom held the most power, something which, given that the Anglo-Saxon period was basically a series of brawls, changed rather frequently. The first one to really earn the title was Edwin of Northumbria. Not that it really matters, just thought I'd provide some free education. Incidently, out of the Hepetarchy the Northumbria brothers are the ones who are most likely to still be around.
* I like to imagine England killed most of his siblings, just for the amusing mental image of him and some of the other nations sitting around drinking tea and calmly discussing the days when this was normal. BewareTheNiceOnes.

[[WMG:Evgeni Plushenko is actually Russia in disguise.]]
* You've gotta admit, [[http://i34.tinypic.com/11lsqyf.jpg the resemblance]] [[http://tinypic.com/r/fbdus2/4 is uncanny]].

Alternatively...

[[WMG:In accordance with the theory that nation-tans exist, Plushenko is a clone of Russia.]]
* Not content with the [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp Cold War]] simply being over and done with, Russia decided to continue the confrontation on another front--namely, professional figure skating. Plushenko was cloned, educated, and trained as the world's first potentially superhuman figure skater, having been cloned from Russia's body so that he would develop all the optimal traits of the Russian people but also be saner.
** Plushenko's performance at the Vancouver Olympics exposed a few flaws in the cloning technology, allowing Russia's [[{{Yandere}} original personality]] to leak through in the event of a loss or breakdown.
* Or, if the whole gods/demigods WMG is true, Plushenko is really Russia's son.
** Which would mean that nations can have kids with humans. Hmm. This requires further thought.

[[WMG: Alfred is Multilingual]]
* [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County-1396x955.png Case in point]] (Better data is [[http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/cats/population/ancestry_language_spoken_at_home.html available here]] for download). When you're talking the United States, you're fairly hard pressed to find not only a culture that isn't represented, but isn't represented in bulk. It stands to reason that, with the settlers concentrating more strongly from these two areas than others, Alfred would most likely be fluent in Spanish and German. If we're going to make smaller regions a representation of the whole, he'd also have French, Chinese, Russian, and Italian (and others) under his belt.
** Or, at least, he had them at one point. Alfred isn't exactly known for being the most culturally aware, and it could be that he took them all and assimilated them as quickly as possible so that he could stick with what he already knew. With Hispanic immigration as high as it is, though, there's at least one he can't avoid...
** I'd have to disagree with this theory. Not only for one does it go against America's personality (his world map is only of North America, thus I doubt he'd actually realise that there are languages other than English or the common language that all the nations use to talk to each other) but also Americans are not exactly known for being culturally accepting. Not meaning to insult any Americans here, but most of the world does see (or at least stereotype) the American populace as being ignorant of other cultures. As Hetalia is playing off that stereotype, making America Multi-lingual would throw off the ignorant stereotype he's portraying. Also, when studying Linguistics (hence a link can't be supplied if anyone wishes to see for themselves), we were given statistics of the percentages of the three main English dominate speaking nations (Britain, America and Australia) and on a "national" (meaning how many people in the nation they got to do the survey) scale only 41-2% spoke a language other than English. This shows a surprisingly low amount of bilinguals living in America, although it is very culturally diverse. In comparison, in the less culturally diverse nation of Britain, 86% spoke a language other than English. This doesn't support America being a multi-lingual if someone like England - who sees smaller immigration rates per year (America sees 2.92 immigrants per 1,000 people, whereas the UK as a whole sees 2.17 immigrants per 1,000 people according to this site = [[http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_net_mig_rat-immigration-net-migration-rate#definition]]) - has double the amount of citizens who speak more than one language. Also, America has not federally established any Multicultural Policies, despite other Western nations like Canada, Argentina, the UK, Netherlands, Australia (despite not being in the West is still counted), and most other nations in central Europe have done so. Going to the other Wiki, and looking up "Multiculturalism" then scrolling down to the section about the US will reinstate this, and also mention that there's a prominent national myth about going to the US and having one's culture assimilated into the American culture. Statistically and just on the basis of stereotyping, there is too low a chance of America being multilingual - if Himaruya does bring multilingualism in the US up at all, then my best bet would be as a side note, rather than an actual depiction of it in the series itself.
* Alternatively America is multilingual but is unaware of it and can only speak other languages with his people, thinking that he's just speaking different dialects. This Troper read a very good fanfic working off this theory.
** In terms of linguistics, that'd be one hell of a stretch. If nothing else, keeping a sentence agreeable in gender is quite a new experience for English speakers (and that's hardly scratching the surface of the differences between English and everything else). That he could switch into something else when speaking to, let's say, his Spanish-speaking population (the roughly 30 million of them) without realizing it was something beyond dialect isn't really possible. Even for Alfred.
*** Especially now, with all the arguments of English vs. Spanish, he's well aware.

[[WMG: Canada is Multilingual]]
* If America, who prefers the 'melting pot' approach to culture, is multilingual, (He may very well speak Spanish or German.) then Canada most certainly speaks languages other than English and French. These would include Chinese, Portuguese, Punjabi, Spanish, Italian and Ukrainian, as well as First Nations' languages, almost all of which are preserved, and many are still taught in schools.

[[WMG: America is CaptainAmerica]]
Kind of obvious really.
* Would relate to the Black Panther is the Nation-tan of Wakanda theory above. The identity of Steve Rogers was invented as a cover-up so nobody would suspect the very personification of America would be doing something so risky as to fight alongside his own men. The super-soldier formula never truly existed and and was conveniently "lost" after being used on "Steve Rogers." On one hand, it kept the Germans on their toes knowing that America had found a way to create super soldiers, and on the other, allowed and explanation for Captain America's powers. During the Cold War, he was placed in Cold Storage and temporarily replaced as Captain America by somebody else to keep him safe in case Russia decided to fire his nukes or something. He was later taken out of storage and now operates a double identity both as Alfred the nation and Steve Rogers the superhero because he's "The Hero."
** He bugged every director he could find, and he finally did it. He got a movie made about himself.

[[WMG: France had stronger genes than England.]]
All of England's colonies have his giant eyebrows except for America, Canada, and Seychelles who were also French colonies.
** Those with English eyebrows are those who were English to begin with. Those with French characteristics started as French colonies. And, in the case of America, he was born before France and England arrived, so he has neither of their genes in him.
*** When you say English to begin with, do you mean colonised by England first? Because the British were the first colonisers in New Zealand, but New Zealand doesn't have the eyebrows. If you meant it as claimed by England first, then how does that explain Australia having the eyebrows when he was first claimed by the Dutch, French, Spanish, Russians, etc before the British decided to just go there and colonise anyway? Also there's the native Indigenous peoples of these countries, which are arguably the first settlers of these nations before the Europeans even came around. Sorry, I'm just not seeing your point clearly because I'm not sure what you meant by it exactly.
*** I think what the OP meant was that Britain's culture was the dominant one - which, as this part-Australian troper attests, is fairly accurate. And New Zealand does have the eyebrows.

[[WMG: China is [[DroppedaBridgetonHim secretly a girl]].]]
Think about it. Women are constantly portrayed as being "weaker" in China, and when the bosses found out that their nation-tan was female, they forced her to hide her gender and pretend to be a guy. And besides, PLEASE tell me I wasn't the only one who thought China was a girl when I first saw him? >.>
** Given that China's seiyuu had roles occasionally dropping bridgets on other people, this come at no surprise.
** Oh, I would really like this to be true, but it would ruin the tension!
** If China was secretly a girl, it seems doubtful that [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/files/gosya.gif he would ever take off his shirt in front of anyone else]], even if - or ''especially'' if - it was another nation. Also, when he turns around a little in the link, he appears to lack female breasts. (Sorry, Korea.)
* Sort of impossible, but it would explain Hong Kong. Daddy!England and Mommy!China?
** It occurred to this troper while watching the episode where China meets Baby!Japan that...well, China has [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_binding very small feet.]] Although, obviously after the 2010 Bloodbath and that cute Mandarin dress, China's got to a be a guy...or seriously flat chested.
* This troper likes to think that he went through a gender-swaped version of what I like to call Hungarian Gender Confusion-that is, ([[{{CaptainObvious}} as the name implies,]]) when [[{{DroppedABridgetOnHim}} one drops a Bridget on]] ''[[{{DroppedABridgetOnHim}} themselves.]]''

[[WMG: China's panda is named Peter, and lives in Seattle. Oh, and did we mention [[PhineasandFerb he's a secret agent?]]]]

[[WMG: England lied about his height.]]
By now it's pretty obvious that he's not as tall as France and there's a lot more than just 2 cm between him and America. Knowing how self-conscious he can be, it's more than possible that he lied to make people think he's taller. (Let's just conveniently forget about the fact that Himaruya writes him.)
* To England and France, historically, them being of different heights in actuality but not in number is a very real possibility. There was a good period of time in which the English measuring system and the French one were different, with the French feet slightly larger (which is why we get myths such as Napoleon being very short). I can't think of an explanation for America, so it could be very well that he maintains this due to his self-consciousness.

[[WMG: If Nantucket is America's cowlick, then the rest of his hair is the Corn Belt.]]
It makes sense. Corn is milky yellow/golden, and so is America's hair.
* I always thought of the corn belt as his digestive system, personally.

[[WMG: [[PsychopathicManchild Russia]] and [[NaiveEverygirl Ukraine]] are [[SitcomArchnemesis France x England]] [[ShipperOnDeck shippers]].]]
See [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruktime this]]. No reason, just RuleOfFunny.

[[WMG: America is a post-op female-to-male transsexual.]]
Florida [[TheSimpsons is America's wang]] but was not one of the original 13 colonies. So America must not have been born with a wang.
* He was always referred to as male, though, long before he even attempted to a acquire Florida.
** Everyone (in-universe) referred to Italy as a girl before finding out (even Italy), and they also thought Hungary was a boy. Clearly nation-tans are a bad judge of gender.
*** Italy never said he was a girl, as far as I know. Heck, he even almost reveals his true gender to HRE in that strip about [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/kmn.html his dream meeting Japan]], not to mention getting all flustered and allowing Hungary to go bathe before him in [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/hnsan.html Hungary-san and her Maiden's Heart]] and then in another strip showing no concern [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/mz.html about getting nude and swimming with HRE]]. Not to mention that even though Austria thought was female and thus bought him dresses and such, he was technically raised by his granddad Rome along with Romano, and I'd sure as hell hope that he'd know his own grandson's gender. Of course, I could always be missing out on something (like an official statement by Himaruya, for example) but there hasn't been any indication that Italy was "gender-confused".
*** True, but the logic to make him female originally is faulty, and asserting literal gender change moves well beyond mistake. The theory is saying that expansion would mean body parts would be added for each gained territory, and that makes no sense especially in context of characters like America who expanded from about 375 thousand miles to almost 4 million. That, and it suggests that for a character to be male they need a phallic body of land, which is again in contrast to the series which makes genitalia (male or female) an important region rather than a suggestive one.
*** Three things; One- It was kind of a joke theory anyway, for some reason my joke theories (regardless of fandom) are always taken dead seriously and nitpicked even when (I think) it should be obvious it's a joke. Two- I'd say making two islands someone's nipples is a little on the suggestive side, although admittedly not on the level of what I'm suggesting would be. Three- I'm not saying that a nation-tan needs a suggestive geographic feature to be a particular gender, I'm saying that if a nation-tan is already particular gender and has a suggestive geographic feature that correlates to that gender there may be a relation. This theory came from fridge logic related to that.
*** Joke theories don't work when they're no more ridiculous than the normal ones...

[[WMG: America is kept in the dark about what his government does.]]
When America goes to visit Japan, it seems like he's oblivious about what his boss actually wants and is really just there to befriend Japan and some whales. Also, the anime episode that introduces Tony properly pretty much has a MoodWhiplash when America's boss tells him that it wasn't a UFO but a fallen weather balloon. The colors are extremely dark, and his boss practically says "shut up, stop bothering us." And right after that scene, Tony comes up to America and befriends him. With the personality that America has, it could explain why he pretends he can't read the atmosphere - if he read the atmosphere his politicians gave off all the time, he'd get depressed and paranoid.
* We've already seen this same thing with Germany, Japan, and the Italys, and it's been shown that the Nation-Tans will be allowed to cry, scream, and eventually be hit if they don't agree. I'm pretty sure that's how it is for everyone: they don't get so much explanations as orders for what they're supposed to do. In the same way, they never seem to be consulted about what they'd feel towards a certain action before they have to carry it out.
** As if there weren't already enough reasons to dislike politicians.

[[WMG: A nation-tan in the style of America is one of the unidentified people in ''The Situation Room''.]]
For reference, that's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Situation_Room_(photograph) a well-known photograph]] of high-ranking government officials receiving live updates of the operation to kill Osama bin Laden. Obviously the Alfred F. Jones we know isn't in there because someone would have noticed by now if there were a set of people with the same names as the nation-tans who also resembled them, but multiple fics have portrayed the American government as explaining Alfred's presence by his being a security expert of some kind, which would fit very well with this situation. My money would be on the guy they call "John".

[[WMG: Russia actually has a friend]]
Not a relative, not someone who happens to share the same political system, not someone he's intimidated into submission, but an actual friend. Said friend is Australia, according to an Hetalia-verse interpretation of [[http://tinyurl.com/28288am this]], and before you ask, yes, the fandom knows about this (well some of them anyway) and there have been a couple of fics but for once they've managed to keep things platonic, well so far anyway.
* For some reason, the idea of Russia being friends with the land of EverythingTryingToKillYou seems weirdly fitting.
** From the AussiesWithArtillery page, regarding why invading Australia is a bad idea: "It's like Russia. In Russia if you invade you can keep marching until you freeze to death. Invade North West Australia and you can keep marching until you die of heatstroke." They have things in common!
*** Russians were also guests of honor in Australia for many years. Australians once let Russian visitors survey the land of Port Jackson and Botany bay ''including Military Fortifications which did not raise any eyebrows with Australians at the time'' (Though for the Brits and the rest of Europe it caused a RedScare) and the city of Darwin was owned by the USSR for three days due to communication problems.
* If India is ever created he or she might be good friends with Russia, or might be someone that Russia is quite protective of as is more in character for him and also historically canon.
* Ireland is another possibility, though they might have had a falling out by now due to Ireland apparently supporting Georgia in the fairly recent conflict between Russia and Georgia. But since Russia (well, the USSR) was the first nation to recognize Ireland as an independent country, I could see that being the basis for a good relationship between the -tans.
* France. Around the time Russia began being exposed to European influence under Peter the Great, Russians (aristocrats especially) showed a fascination in France. Dressing like the French and speaking it was apparently the cool thing to do. Just as well, the communist party was apparently very strong in France in 1946, later joining NATO in 1949. Even after joining there was apparently higher sympathy towards the communists in France than there was the U.K. or the U.S..
** Also, when in the episode where Russia after a meeting reveals his fantasies of deforming the other Allies' faces to France. If this troper remembers correctly, Russia repeatedly refers to "them" rather than "you all", allowing one to wonder if Russia likes France more than the others.

[[WMG: China is narrating the entire thing from the Future.]]
Since Yuki Kaida is the narrator, suppose that China is using "his" real voice as the narrator many years into the future and Hetalia is one big nostalgic flashback to happy times before humanity launched into space and all the nations got separated.
** Alternately because Kaida also voices Taiwan, it may also be the case that Taiwan is narrating the thing from the Future as well.
*** Jossed in the dub, where China's voice actress is not the Narrator.

[[WMG: England is scared that Sealand will become the next America]]
England doted on America, and got his heart broken for it. Remembering this, when a new nation-tan appeared that was clearly his little brother, his knee jerk response was to do exactly the opposite of what he'd done with America, and declare this person was nothing to do with him. However, this had the result of Sealand declaring himself a country. England, by now, had recognised this ''was'' his little brother, but decided he didn't want him to become a country because if he did he may end up like America, more powerful than England, and it would mean England would lose another sibling, and so works against Sealand being recognised by other countries.\\
He realised, of course, that Sealand hated him, and is trying to get him to like him, which is why in strips he's always trying to convince him to come to his house. He secretly quite likes the fact that he has to help Sealand out sometimes, as it stops him from cutting England off entirely.\\
This is supported by the strip where he has a nightmare that Sealand grows up. Even if just thought Sealand was being an idiot, calling himself a country, he'd hardly have nightmares about it. Also, the fact that Sealand suddenly becomes taller than him is reminiscent of the strip where he says goodbye to a small America, comes back a short time later, and finds America is now taller than him.\\
England does love Sealand really, he just doesn't want to admit it. His reaction of horror to seeing Sealand had put himself up for sale on the internet could quite easily be seen as fear for what his little brother could be getting himself into.
** I think England might love Sealand just a little more if he'd stop shooting at his commercial fishing already.

[[WMG: Russia is a ''WarriorCats'' fan.]]
''WarriorCats'' is ''very'' popular in Russia, having translated super editions and field guides that most other countries never bothered with. So surely the character himself would enjoy it as well, no? He probably likes it for all the FamilyUnfriendlyViolence.
** Russia appreciating the violence makes even more sense when you consider the covers that the Russian publishers use. AmericanKirbyIsHardcore might as well be renamed [[AmericanKirbyIsHardcore Russian Warriors Is Hardcore]].
** Come to think of it, China seems to like the series a lot, too.
*** Bit of a misconception there: The books that everyone believes are from China are actually published in Taiwan. The Simplified Chinese translation, which is published in China, only goes up to the first series, so Taiwan is likely a much bigger fan. This also raises the possibility of Russia and Taiwan secretly being obsessed with England, being the ''Warriors'' authors' home country.
** Official list of nations who have at least encountered ''Warriors'': America, Canada, England, Taiwan, Japan, China, Russia, Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Finland, Slovenia, Turkey, the Czech Republic, Korea, Hungary, Vietnam, and France. Germany, too, seems to be particularly fond of the books.

[[WMG: England is a big fan of cars.]]
And secretly, he's [[TopGear The Stig]]. Some say he's an immortal representative of England...
* So England is Ben Collins?
** Well, no, but there is speculation that there's more than one Stig, right? England can't ''always'' have time to do this secret side-job, so he lets Ben Collins fill in for him and throw everybody off his trail. After all, a proper English gentleman doesn't recklessly drive really fast cars.

[[WMG: Alfred really gets around]]
The states. To get them America had to make a lot of treaties and such.
* Spain gave America his Florida.
* We didn't even need the states to make [[ActionHero that assumption]]. America [[PatrioticFervor "Fuck Yeah!"]] Jones!
[[WMG: France's sexual "reputation" was spurred by Jeanne d'Arc's death and the Revolution]]
There may have been a point where Francis would have had something akin to a decently ''sane'' love life. And it's likely that his relationship with St. Joan would have been genuinely one of love, if not for her burning at the stake. After that, he couldn't take is as seriously for fear of losing another partner. Then came Marie Antoinette and the French Revolution...
* The French have always been thought of as sex-hounds, though.
* WordofGod says France had completely forgotten about Joan of Arc until Napoleon mentioned her, and there's no reason to assume he was any closer to Marie Antoinette than he was any of his other queens.
** A recent strip seems to suggest otherwise.
*** Which is hilarious because the French people blamed Marie Antoinette, an Austrian Princess, for running their finances into the ground, which inevitably started [[LaResistance the French Revolution]].

[[WMG: Muscovy (ur-Russia? USSR-tan?) gained control of the other Soviet countries by killing them and eating their hearts, or at least some physical symbol of their essence.]]
Whether this is [[PsychopathicManchild because]] Russia is CuteAndPsycho or ([[RussianGuySuffersMost one of the reasons]]) [[BreakTheCutie why]] Russia is CuteAndPsycho has yet to be determined.
* It definitely ''sounds'' like something Russia would do. At the very least, I could see him doing it as a symbolic gesture, to the utter horror of any nation-tan who witnessed the act or heard about it later.

[[WMG: China was born / first appeared sometime during the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sovereigns_and_Five_Emperors Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors]] Period, or between that period and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xia_Dynasty Xia Dynasty]] period.]]
Logically, this seems like the best bet. China is often mentioned as being [[OlderThanTheyLook approximately 4000 years old]]. This fits pretty well with the traditional chronology of Chinese history, where the Xia Dynasty was supposedly established in roughly 2100 BC, having been born out of the earlier "''San-huang wu-ti''"[[hottip:*:We'll use this term in the future, since its ''way'' easier to write than the full name "Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors Period".]], which has [[ShroudedInMyth many elements of]] [[TheTimeOfMyths older mythological and cultural traditions]], and roughly ends somewhere around 2000 BC. Considering the fact that it was a very long time ago, and there's lots we don't know about those periods (much of it comes from oral, later written, and archaeological sources), its not at all surprising that these periods overlap.

Now then: China, like many nations, likely appeared as a small child when a form of cultural and national identity appeared among the people living in this region. This may have happened during the end of the "''San-huang wu-ti''", as it eased into the Xia Dynasty Period. He may have been "found" by one of his earliest bosses, and brought to live in the courts with the most important members of their society. China's growth probably mirrored [[http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8710/italygrowthandhistoryhi.jpg Italy's]] over the intervening centuries, with "Chibi China" representing the late "''San-huang wu-ti''" and early Xia, older kid China during the later Xia Dynasty and the Shang Period, young teen China during the Zhou Dynasty (likely the Western Zhou Period), and his older teen form during the Eastern Zhou (known to us as the "Spring and Autumn Period" and later the more famous "Warring States Period"). This would be when he was truly maturing as a nation, and began seeing himself as the "Middle Kingdom". He would fully mature into his adult form upon the accession of Qin Shi Huang as the first emperor of Imperial China, under the "Qin Dynasty". This would mark a turning point in his life, being that it was founded around 221 BC (when he was roughly 2000 years old). From this point on, after being unified under the Qin (and later the Han), China began acting as a "Big Brother" figure to the other East Asian nations. Japan is, after all, first mentioned by the Chinese in the "Book of Han" (a collection of writings detailing the later Han period). He would not, however, begin taking serious lessons from China until after he meets Korea and begins borrowing culture and knowledge from them later in the 1st millennium AD.

Addendum: During the early history of China, such as during his "chibi" days and the Warring States Period, there may have been "rival" Chinas. These small states, if they had any regional identity, would have had to have been either killed by or absorbed into China, possibly helping to facilitate his growth. However, it is unlikely that any rival states appeared during later periods of unrest. By the time of the Three Kingdoms, or the Southern Song, the idea of "One China" had long since been established. Any rulers of rival kingdoms saw themselves as contenders to the Mandate of Heaven, not the founders of their own national states. Thus, China merely suffered from the fatigue of civil war, or possible split-personality disorder at worst. The reason there is a Hong Kong and Taiwan is because Hong Kong existed as a British colony for many years, has a fusion of Chinese culture and British Colonial society as his background, and is treated as a special zone in China (Macau may also exist as a Portuguese equivalent). Taiwan, meanwhile, had its own indigenous cultures which still exist on may parts of the island. This, on top of having a similar experience with Japan as Hong Kong had with Britain, as well as merely being settled and Sinicized rather than an inherent part of China's boundaries (remember, the ROC government is merely hosted in Taiwan, considering itself rightful ruler of all China. Many Taiwanese are fine with independence, as well). This is why a Tibet- and Mongolia-tan also exist.
* Given how the Warring States all had their own identity which were retained by their successor provinces, they could have just been China's older siblings who passed on their skills and personality and currently live in his house as retired nations. The reason that China doesn't remember his first dynasties very well was because he almost died during the Warring States period and thus experienced memory problems when he was re-unified.
** So his memory problems could be similar to those following the HRE=Germany theory... interesting.... Of course, for all we know, the other Chinese siblings may have in fact [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence moved up in the cosmic ranks]]... and have become China's ''Dragon''! Also, his memory loss could be due to the book burnings that took place when the first Dynasty of the Imperial China came about. Shi Huangdi didn't want there to be any history that preceded him, after all.

[[WMG: Russia was originally just his own capital Moscow.]]
Russia as Muscovy had to fight with other Russian states like Novgorod for the dominance of the Russian lands. As these states fell, he incorporated them to his territory, which later he was known as Russia.
* It goes without saying that this is pretty much history canon. It would also explain, along with the Mongol Hordes, why Russia is as completely insane and dangerous as he is.

[[WMG: England was at one point married to Queen Elizabeth I.]]
It's historical canon. She stated that she was married to her country. Bring that to its logical conclusion, and...
* I've seen several fics with this pairing. Really, it was just too good to pass up.

[[WMG: Although they may arguably not be particularly close or talk to each other much, Japan is aware of Canada's existence.]]
Just look at the sheer amount of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sister_cities_in_Canada Sister Cities]] they seem to share, especially in northern Japan (particularly Hokkaido). One search command will get you at least 37 by my computer's count. They haven't had enough interaction to be sure about this, but even the countries aware of Canada can forget him from time to time, such as at the G8. It would also make sense, since a guy as observant as Japan who hangs out with America so much would pick up on the differences between the two North American brothers.

[[WMG: The "F." in America/Alfred F. Jones's name comes from:]]
Make your guesses!
* '''F'''reedom!
* '''F'''uck England!
* It's a reference to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_E._Neuman Alfred E. Neuman]]!
* '''F'''uck yeah!
* '''F'''ernandez
* '''F'''rance/Francis made him add it as payment for helping him in TheAmericanRevolution!
** It's probably reference to Alfred E Neuman, [[http://hetalia.shoutwiki.com/wiki/America#Name as said on his page]] but troper considers it either Francis or Franklin. TheOtherWiki also said that the 'F' is for JohnFKennedy.
*** Odds are, the Alfred comes from the ship, Jones comes from one or all of the Jones mentioned, and "F" stands for ''ALL'' of the above, that way the fans can choose which one they like most and stick with it. On another note, I like how one possible explanation for Alfred is the ''USS Alfred'', since it fits with Canada's name coming from the ''Matthew''.
* WordOfGod says about this:
-->'''What does the F stand for?'''
-->According to my first note, it seems like Foster.
-->But I wrote a lot around it, like Franklin and F*ck,
-->''the mystery of F deepens and deepens...''

[[WMG: The 2010 Christmas Bloodbath, when all the nations are trying to find some secret mark on their bodies for a reason that boils down to [[ItMakesSenseInContext strip-or-the-world-blows-up]] and they wind up trying to strip Russia...]]
They are actually gang-raping him. I mean, Russia occupies the Woobie role extraordinarily well throughout the special. And if you ask a Russian this is historically accurate.
** ''Owch.'' Yes, Russia is TheWoobie, but way to ruin [[CrowningMomentOfFunny the]] [[DefeatMeansFriendship mood]] of those strips.

[[WMG: America was named after his mother.]]
This troper thinks America was a Indian tribe that was the original representation of the country and Spain named America. Later, for some reason, England named her son after her. That's why America has a girly name.
** History disagrees with you very much, my friend; the name 'America' is based of the Latin form of the masculine name 'Amerigo.' Plus, the name was coined by a German.
[[WMG: america and canada are the sons of finland and some native america tribe]]

[[WMG: England is the biological father of America. He just didn't realize it when they first met.]]
This troper find it to be a HUGE PlotHole to believe a European baby could suddenly appear in a country of people that look nothing like him. Besides, had it not been for the English, the USA would be far different then what it is now!
* There's no PlotHole. Europeans were colonizing, and because of that a new Tan was born.
** On the other point, England didn't father America. America was running around before England even showed up on the continent (that's canon). Because of the original settlers in his territory his lineage is, in fact, Nordic (regardless of which colony believed to have founded him, they all pretty much came from the same area). England's contribution was to colonize effectively, which allowed America to age up, but it had nothing to do with his birth.
*** Their official connection is 'brother' as well, so...
**** Alternatively, all of England's insistence that he's their parent [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Arch leads Canada and America to tease him.]]
***** Except England is ''not'' and has never claimed to be their parent. Guys, remember to check the actual manga sometimes.
****** It was a joke, geez.

[[WMG: England is Germania's bastard son.]]
If his siblings are Ireland, Scotland, and Wales, it raises the question of why he's the only non-Celt in the family. Since that part of Britain wasn't really England before the Angles and Saxons took over, it's the only answer that makes sense.
* There is some proof of continued Celtic influence on English culture, as well as there having been the (now mostly extinct) Cornish and Cumbric languages. So it could be possible that England is Germania's bastard son with an earlier Celtic nation-tan. Alternatively, England is in fact Celtic by birth, but has become one of the Germanic family through adoption similar to America (this could have also happened to Prussia, a Baltic state that became Germanized).
** I'm inclined to go with the adoption theory, because, as said, we know that Scotland and Wales, at least, are his brothers, and Himaruya has never given any indication that he may be related to Germany. We could really do with knowing when England actually appeared; whether it was after the country was established or if he just got a name change when that happened.

[[WMG: For a brief and very sad period in history, America/Alfred would have misconstrued some instructions from his boss and wound up calling France/Francis "Freedom". France was very pleased as he is rather [[IncrediblyLamePun free with his hands]].]]
I nearly insisted on referring to a certain very important revolution as the "Freedom Revolution" in my European history class...which would have been [[CrossestheLineTwice really quite accurate]].

[[WMG: America is {{Stephen Colbert}}]]
Or rather, Stephen Colbert is America in disguise. Or maybe not in disguise. Because, let's be honest, it just makes sense. He's even admitted it before. He wrote a book about it.
* And so can we. (Everyone can be America.)

[[WMG: England's tattoo represents Liverpool]]
In his version of Marukaite Chikyuu England says "my tattoo really hurts, but it's a hot six string!" Considering we've had birthmarks, nipples, idiot hairs and glasses representing specific places, I think this probably does too. And I think [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Liverpool Liverpool is a likely candidate]].

[[WMG: England is both England and the UK]]
He has a split personality that gradually developed as he unified with his siblings. He may have some control over which personality takes over at which times, but considering the general British stereotypes are those of the English, they're probably quite similar anyway. In fact, it's quite possible most people wouldn't notice if the personality were to switch while he was with them. Possibly, he never actually told any of the other nations, and when he demands they call him Britain rather than England they just assume he's saying that's who he's representing.
* Himayura has stated that while he and his brothers act as the UK, England is the one who represents them as a whole in the meetings. Or something like that.
** It's because his brothers are too rowdy, but you're right. With how much people take pride and identify themselves as Scottish, Welsh, and Irish, they're definitely still alive. It would be interesting, though, to see the state of his brothers (since England has so much power in the UK, and even strips which take place in the Isles never show the others).
*** Sorry, I didn't explain the guess properly. The theory doesn't mean the other UK nations are ''dead''; rather, it's based on an idea I've come across where the UK as a whole has a personification ''as well as'' the individual contries within it. That applies here, except that the UK is a split personality of England, rather than a completely separate person, based on the aforementioned stereotypes thing, and the fact that English people are more likely to identify themselves as British than people from the rest of Britain. Also, that many people seem to think 'England' and 'Britain' are interchangeable. Really, no matter how rowdy they are, I think England would have difficulty convincing Scotland in particular to let him represent all of them. If the other UK nations knew that the person representing them was actually the UK, it might go down a bit better, as that person ''would'' represent all of them. Although the other nations thinking they were talking to England might still cause some issue...
**** With the clarification, this theory makes sense. I'd think that the other Tans might not know he's still England, though. Consider that, after the point the nations united, everything became known as British with who had been England as the head. Everybody, after not seeing his brothers as much if at all, might just figure he'd gone through a very-common name change.

[[WMG: The real reason why Russia always wears his scarf is...]]
C'mon, let us hear your ideas!
* He uses it to cover a nasty scar on his neck.
* It reminds him of the warmer memories of his childhood.
* It's keeping his head on. He was actually decapitated at some point and somehow managed to survive (well, if he can survive his heart falling out...) but he doesn't want to alarm the other nations.
* It's canon (or, at least, he says it's canon) that it's a body part and he literally cannot take it off.
** {{Jossed}} He is shown without it in the first volume of the manga [[http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/507/meeting02copiazv5.jpg]]
*** I'm just repeating what Russia, himself, said. The quote about him not being able to remove it comes from the CD's, though, so comes down to exactly what level of canon you consider them.
*** And just how reliable you consider Russia's word to be...
* He's Russia and he can do what he wants.
** (Referring to the above Body Part theory) It's a removeable erogenous zone. And whenever someone touches it, he gets all nice and dere like in the strip where Lithuania [[TastesLikeDiabetes falls asleep on his shoulder and they talk about their dreams.]]
*** But he's not wearing it in the first few minutes of paint it white...

[[WMG: In combat since WW2, England assumes the identity of [[CallOfDuty Captain Price]].]]
It's not that hard to imagine "Arthur Kirkland" serving alongside and befriending the aforementioned soldier at some point during the WW2-era games. At some point, however, the ''original'' Price gets killed in action, prompting England to take his identity in memory of the man. But as the War drew to a close, he decided to retain the name and mustached appearance as his cover whenever entering combat alongside humans. Besides, how ''else'' could he survive the sort of crap he's gone through? [[spoiler:[[ModernWarfare Up to and including being locked up in a Russian gulag for three years.]]]]

[[WMG: Russia [[ShipperOnDeck ships Austria/Hungary]] and has been doing so for the past two hundred years.]]
[[http://chaneljay.deviantart.com/gallery/29776356#/d370ra5 Observe.]]
* In 1956 Hungary had a falling out with ''Russia''... And it's worth noting that in 1848 Russia "bringing them together" involved rushing in and literally crushing Hungary's army. (That's hardcore shipping for you...)
** It said in the notes that after the 1956 rebellion was crushed, Austria had a "hostile attitude to communist Hungary", and that Russia helped to reconcile them.

[[WMG: The British Empire was dismantled to save England's life.]]
Rome started to age, and eventually died, when his empire fell. England refers to himself several times in the series as "the great British Empire". Although obviously he never literally represented the empire countries, it doesn't seem implausible that having so much territory would change his status in some way. Maybe at some point England noticed a couple of wrinkles or a grey hair. Someone realised that this meant his days were numbered, and so it was decided to grant independence peacefully to the colonies before they tore the empire apart and England suffered the same fate as Rome.
* Well, and there were some pesky little things called World Wars...
** That doesn't discredit the guess, does it? The guess was that England started to subtly age, realised what that meant, and it was decided to get rid of the empire (although some people grasped the seriousness of the situation better than others). How does it affect the guess if the wars contributed to that situation?
*** Well, the wars kind of made Britain weak and nearly bankrupt. Which is why it didn't even try to keep its empire together anymore, it just didn't have the money and the resources. Just before WWI Britain fought the Second Boer War trying to ''expand'' its empire. After WWII it pretty much let go most of its colonies because it had to focus on rebuilding Britain itself.
**** Yes, it couldn't keep the empire together, so it didn't try. Why can't that translate to Hetalia terms as England looking like he might die if the empire didn't go peacefully? Am I just missing the objection here?
**** The point is, the empire didn't fall apart because England noticed a couple of wrinkles or a grey hair and thought that at this rate he would die. The Second Boer War was fought technically "minutes" before WWI to ''expand'' the empire. It was because the war left Britain weak and exhausted.
***** OK, I get the point now. Still, I think the guess has some merit if I'd worded it so that it said that ''after'' the wars England started to age, which corresponded to the real life problems in Britain. So as well as the issues in terms of the country, the nation-tan also seemed to be in trouble.
* That makes sense considering [[ImperialJapan Japan]] was showing signs of old age (high blood pressure and a bad back) during WWII.

[[WMG: China was castrated as a child.]]

[[WMG: China made the same mistake as Hungary, only in reverse.]]
* As an alternative theory to the castration one above, so far there are four confirmed ancients in canon, and two of those four are female. Considering the fact that women had more outlets and chances for some type of power in the ancient world even if they still weren't equal to men, a lot of the ancient nation-tans were likely female. Presumably China, at 4,000 years old, is one of the "younger" ancients, so he could very well have grown up around female -tans and assumed that he too was female. Obviously he no longer believes this, but he might still be more comfortable in more feminine clothes/still considers himself feminine in some ways. This would explain both his androgynous style and his drawing of himself that looks like a woman. Supported by Nyotalia China having tomboyish clothing in her sketch (though YMMV, I guess); she would have grown up around primarily male ancients and made the exact same error as Hungary.

[[WMG: England has travelled with [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]].]]
Simple logic: in [[http://hetalia.livejournal.com/5087111.html this strip]], England knew exactly when America's computer would be made (thinking about it, this implies America has also had some contact with the Time Lord), and considering the Doctor has been fighting off alien invaders from England's house for centuries, they're bound to know each other. When England was younger the Doctor probably took him on a trip to cheer him up (it's unlikely he'd risk it often, considering the potential England has to meddle), and England was so awestruck by the latest model computers it somehow stuck in his mind all those years.
* This has a logical conclusion. Why doesn't Gakuen!England want anyone to know what his Christmas is like? Well, if Series/DoctorWho and Hetalia are the same universe then ''England gets invaded by aliens at Christmas''! He doesn't want anyone to know because he's utterly convinced that they won't believe him.
** That... that is just brilliant.

[[WMG: China was originally planned to be unveiled as a girl.]]
An earlier guess is that China is a girl. We've seen enough now to know that this isn't true. But just looking at him, he is ''too'' feminine. Apart from the obvious lack of breasts, he really did look female in that dress from the Christmas bloodbath. I propose that Himaruya originally designed him with the thought in that back of his mind that he would one day [[DroppedABridgetOnHim drop a Bridget]] on the readers. However, he never acted on it and sort of forgot about it. It may occasionally have drifted back into his mind, and may even have still been lingering when the anime was cast. By now, though, there's been too much evidence to say he isn't, so the idea has been dropped.

[[WMG: The plans Alfred makes get boxed, à la [[TheOffice Office]] ]]
In TheOffice, complaints are filed into a box until the complainant has forgotten about it and moved on. This is the same method used to handle Alfred in the War Room, since he's much too powerful to simply shoo out. Actual (discarded) US war plans read like a teen obsessed with comic books: nuking the moon (or at least building a military base on it), LSD experiments, psychic soldiers, killer fungus, and exploding animals. The only way the military can get things done, and not make a complete fool of itself, is to file and pretend to prepare for these until Alfred has gotten bored and forgotten all about them.

[[WMG: America's glasses]]
They're actually a TragicKeepsake from Republic of Texas, a small child living in Mexico's house, who he became friends with. Texas moved out, which Mexico was forced to accept after fighting with him. But then Texas moved in with America, leading to bad blood between Mexico and America. Texas lost his life in the ensuing Mexican-American war, but entrusted his glasses to America in his final moments and caused him to go on a RoaringRampageofRevenge, ending in America seizing a significant amount of land from Mexico and growing into the "adult" he is today. It explains [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/files/arm.gif this]].

[[WMG: Russia has the heart of a child... and he keeps it in his coat pocket.]]
In [[http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2010/09/hetalia-russia.jpg this strip]] Russia's heart manages to pop out from the side of his chest rather than the center where one's heart is normally located because he keeps it in an inside pocket of his coat.
* Um...the heart is normally located in the left side of the chest. That's why, when you sing your national anthem, you usually put your right hand across your chest onto the left side and over your heart.
** It's slightly to the left, but closer to the center than most people think. When you cover your "heart" for the national anthem, you're more likely covering a lung.

[[WMG: That one song (Tetris theme) does not appear in Russia's MKC because it's russian]]
Hear me out. America's been staring at the wall funny ever since he sent Lithuania for batteries. He's clutching his gameboy color like it could save his life. In the other hand is a game cartrage. He's softly humming a song- one that Russia recognizes. Russia asks him about it, and he tells Russia it's this "Totally awesome game (he) can't stop playing!" and that he "can [[TetrisEffect see it everywhere.]] So Russia decides to try his hand. And he kicks ass at it. So America convinces him to put it in the song, saying everyone will think it's what you assumed it was.
And when that part plays, Russia steps away from the mic to play through the first level of tetris really fast.
* That makes too much sense to be ignored.

[[WMG: The inspiration for the Jones in America's name came from Junie B. Jones.]]
Don't tell me you haven't thought of it.
* Actually I had always thought it had come from Indiana Jones.

[[WMG:In the Christmas 2007 strip, when a drunken England reveals that someone broke his heart, he was talking about Seychelles and not America.]]
* Evidence? Not disregarding the theory, but there needs to be something to back this up.

[[WMG: Theres a reason Russia didn't have his scarf in the first few minutes of paint it white.]]
It's [[NoodleIncident a long story]]. You see, this guy named [[CandleJack Candle Jack]] cam

[[WMG: England was King Arthur]]
The original King Arthur "legend" was a diary that England kept. Later, France read it and made it into a story of his own. England had a greater hand in taking care of his people then, and was revered as something close to a king. The "Round Table" were all the other Anglo-Saxon nations that England eventually conquered. "Mordred" was a rebelling English or Celtic State. After taking him out, England gradually retreated from the public view of his people, causing the legend of the Once and Future King. Either that, or England had a psychic dream and saw America's Revolution and wrote it down in his diary as something of note. Later retellings corrupted it into an actual part of the story and connected it with England's disappearance from public view.
** The problem with this theory is that the legend of King Arthur is of Celtic origin, and he was supposed to have fought against the invading ''Anglo-Saxons'' - that is, the English. So if anything ''Wales'' was King Arthur.
*** But your issue depends on England actually being originally Anglo-Saxon, when I'd say the evidence points towards him being a Celt who was adopted by the Germanics. After all, the rest of the UK, at least, have been confirmed as England's brothers, the other British Isles have been stated to have the bushy eyebrows, and he doesn't share ''any'' features with the nations that are definitely Germanic, nor has there been mention of him being related to them. It's quite possible that England before he was England wrote down his diary while he was still resisting the invaders, and got captured by them afterwards. Or maybe it wasn't a diary at all, just a fairy story he wrote to keep his hopes up that someone would come save him and his people.


[[WMG: The British brothers can trace their blood straight back to Germania and Rome]]

England and Wales are related to Rome and the Italy brothers. Scotland is related to Germania, Germany, Prussia, and possibly Holy Roman Empire. Historically, the Romans never managed to conquer what is now Scotland, and were actually [[ViolentGlaswegian terrified of them.]] However, several Germanic tribes migrated there, and spread the English language.

[[WMG: England has the two personifications of the Kingdom of Northumbria living with him]]
Northumbria was made up of two kingdoms that alternated between being so closely allied that they were considered on and the same, and trying to kill each other, hence two personifications. While most of the Hepetarchy probably went the way of the dodo, these two hung on due to a) cultural differences between north and south, b) the fact that the border between Scotland and England kept changing, and c) general stubborness. After they were Northumbria they were the Danelaw for a while, then Bernica (northern Northumbria) spent a few centuries as the border region (and probably the menace known as the Border Rievers) and is now hanging on as Berwick-on-Tweed, while Deira (southern Northumbria) who the Nordics took more of an interest in during the Danelaw era is surviving on a combination of the north-south divide and people from Yorkshire thinking of themselves as a distinct group, to the point that [[http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=5901800389 some of them want independence from the rest of England]] (although no one takes that particular group seriously).
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Prussia]]
!Prussia
WMG regarding the character of [[AxisPowersHetalia/NeitherHolyNorRomanNorAnEmpire Prussia]] goes here.

[[WMG: Prussia used to be married when he was younger.]]
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg-Prussia It's history canon.]] The reason why [[WordOfGod his profile]] says he was never married is because the Holy Roman Empire and Poland wouldn't allow them to officially marry (at the time, Brandenburg and Prussia were fiefs of HRE and Poland, respectively). The two still lived together like a married couple, anyway. Common-law marriage, see? After the HRE's collapse, Brandenburg was absorbed into Prussia and ceased to exist. Prussia was devastated and never remarried, and denies that he ever was.
* Actually, Brandenburg still exists as a federal state of Germany. This just brings the mental image of Prussia and Brandenburg hanging out in Germany's basement. The marriage aspect still works, however.

[[WMG: Prussia becomes EastGermany.]]
He calls his brother Ludwig 'West', he dislikes Russia, and he somehow still exists in modern day strips.
* This may have been helped along by WordOfGod, which stated that Prussia feels more like an enclave rather than a nation these days, and that he was stuck doing dead-end jobs. Maybe he was split between Kaliningrad and East Germany? Since there's still a feeling of "East-German-ness" in those parts of Germany, maybe that's how he was living on into 2009? He was living with Germany anyway since the days of the German Empire, so it could work...
** Recently, [[Tropers/{{Kazokuhouou}} I]] read an article about how a significant portion of Germans (from both sides) actually want Germany to ''redivide'' for economic reasons. So.....
*** Just a bit of explanation for people who don't understand the whole "want to divide" thing. The Russians ran East Germany into the ground (a long occupation, isolation, and a healthy dose of communism tends to do that...), and the economy was essentially completely destroyed because of it. It was bolstered back up after the Berlin Wall came down, but East Germany is still lagging well behind its Western half and requires a great deal of aid. Germany is an economic superpower, but nowhere near what it could be considering it's carrying around the crutch that is its recently-liberated section. This is on top of the fact that, due to the roughly 40 years apart, the two populations are different in basically everything (political beliefs, lifestyle, etc.), and it's a common thing to speak about them as separate entities. It really wouldn't be that much of a shock for them to indeed split. TL;DR version: Communism sucks in practice, and it's completely plausible that Prussia will get yet another name change.
**** So essentially, Germany wants to kick Prussia out of his basement?
** More evidence for this theory in the new game in Himayura's page:
-->'''Prussia:''' I'm done cleaning the library!
-->'''Germany:''' You really needn't have bothered, nii-san. I can do that much by myself. Since the unification until now I've done everything by myself. This kind of thing is no problem for me.

[[WMG: Prussia is not Prussia]]
At least, not in present day strips. He's actually [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Prussia,_Ontario New Prussia]]
* Poor Canada...
--> ''Oi oi, North!''
** That's the reason why he likes maple syrup.
** Conversely, he lives on as a [[http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/79-east-germany-lives-on-as-a-tiny-carribean-island/ Carribean Island]]. His association with Canada is through their mutual buddy, Cuba.

[[WMG: New Prussia is Prussia's kid]]
And by New Prussia I mean [[http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/New_Prussia/ this]] kid, not the town in Ontario. I can so see Prussia pulling a SatW!Iceland, pulling out an urn with his ashes in it...

[[WMG: Prussia is a Zombie]]
He's dead, he just doesn't really seem to realize it yet. This explains the ghostly appearance and red eyes.
* Except that he's been an albino-esque character since his childhood, when Prussia was very much going strong. Even later, he has the red-white color scheme during the brief depiction of the Austrian Succession, which was again while Prussia would have been very much alive.

[[WMG: Prussia is really Germany]]
He was so shattered at his brother's death that Germany gained a split personality, also inhabiting the brother that isn't there any longer. The fact that Germany and Prussia are never seen together in official pictures in modern time supports this.
* I would quote if I could find it, but the {{Word of God}} is that in the modern era he spends his time running around Europe and bumming off Germany and Austria (basically in a nod to how the region that was once West Germany is still having to work hard and support what used to be East Germany). Germany and Prussia do in fact interact, and with others in the room who would point out if Germany was speaking to himself (Prussia's drama CD). But, beyond that, Prussia is a pretty isolated character if only because of his own stubbornness. It's not out of character for him not to be interacting much (honestly, if he'd been someplace like the Meeting of the World, I would have put that more in the O.o.C. category. He's not really the diplomatic type; and if he did go I'm sure he probably would have gotten bored and left quickly).
** And, beyond that, Prussia in the modern era is shown interacting with England, France, Austria, and Italy (among others). All four of them are very well acquainted with both Germany and Prussia, all four of them are not known for holding their tongues to spare another's feelings, and at least one most certainly would have said something were this Germany rather than Prussia.

[[WMG: Prussia represents Awesome.]]
* Prussia and his later incarnation (presumably) East Germany ceased to exist years ago, so how does he still exist in the modern day? Simple: what has Prussia always has, and still does, claim to be?
** Prussia's claims to be awesome and invincible are mostly about him convincing himself of it, though. Especially in the more-modern eras, as he loses his power and place in the world, he's just trying to keep himself from breaking down completely by assuring himself of his own worth and that his old principles are still valid (note any time he talks about 'tears welling up'). If Prussia truly represents awesome, does that mean that being awesome is nothing but a series of delusions to protect self-esteem?

[[WMG: Prussia became Berlin state]]
* That explains how he survived. Since Berlin was the capital of Prussia, it would make sense if Gilbert becomes a German state along with Saxony and Bavaria.
** Problem with that, though... The states don't really get personified in the canon (it's exclusively a fan-thing, I believe, to show something like that). So, if Prussia is simply a state, why would he still be displayed within the main cast? Wouldn't he fall into the same spot as Brandenburg, Saxony, and Bavaria (to simply list German examples, though we could say this for places like the US, China, UK, etc., as well), who are not shown? It's a better bet to say that he's East Germany, as the division between the two is noticeable enough for people to identify themselves as something different.
*** There are characters for Saxony and Bavaria that appear briefly as background characters and in footnotes, but it's debatable if they're still kicking around in the series or not after their assimilation into Germany. But if Prussia is still around, perhaps it's not too much of a stretch to assume that they're living in some capacity too. Brandenburg? Beats me.
**** They're background characters, yes, but the sketch in question was from a historical period where they were both countries (or, rather, as close to countries as any of them were in those days). There's been no sign of them otherwise.
***** It appears that they might (key: might) still be hanging around, if Prussia's words in the recently-released ''Kuso-game'' are to be believed. In addition to them, other brothers get referenced.

[[WMG: Prussia doesn't represent anything anymore.]]
* He's stated that he doesn't have a body in his character CD. While this can be interpreted as him simply not having a country to attach himself to, it's also likely that he literally doesn't have a biological body. It could have dissolved (so to speak) after the German reunification, although it probably started fading in and out of existence starting with the dissolution of Prussia after [[WorldWarTwo World War II]]. He's not dead, though, and he still retains consciousness; he just can't interact with the physical place like he used to.
** The "no body" statement was actually in a fan-made version of Maru Kaite Chikyuu, it doesn't appear in any official song. However, the idea of poltergeist Prussia is too amusing, or rather a Prussia that only THINKS he's a ghost and tries (and fails since he's not quite dead) to haunt others "awesomely".
*** That is too epic not to exist, someone has to write it.
*** Well, [[http://sora-ko.deviantart.com/art/APH-Haunting-Austria-105711210 here's a fanart of ghost!Prussia.]]

[[WMG: Prussia becomes Brandenburg state.]]
* Prussia grew out of the Margraviate of Brandenburg, and Potsdam was its base of power even though Berlin had been its capital. While this would prevent a challenge for the times when the two were separate, it is possible that there was originally a separate Brandenburg-tan as well. They might have faded after the union of Brandenburg-Prussia, or they faded with being dissolved after WWII as well. Nowadays, it is Gilbo who is Brandenburg as some consider it to be the remnant of Prussia.
** Appears to be Jossed now; Kuso-game refers to Brandenburg and Prussia as separate elder brothers of Germany.

[[WMG: Prussia no longer represents anything, but keeps himself alive out of [[{{Determinator}} sheer willpower.]]]]
Despite not actually being a country anymore, he's still around in the present day. What keeps him around? His [[SmallNameBigEgo monstrous ego]]. He's here to stay whether the other nations like it or not, dammit.
** If this is actually the case, then said ego is at least partly justified. You have to admit, surviving on willpower alone is pretty awesome.

[[WMG: Gilbert is now the personification of the Internet]]
Admittedly, this WMG is based on a fanfic that I read, but somehow it just fits, plus it'd explain a lot. You have to admit, there is something rather Prussia-esque about the Net.
* Or perhaps he's become the personification of everything AWESOME.

[[WMG: During WWI Prussia was actually in control of Germany at the time, Not Germany]]
Seeing that Prussia dominated the political scene of the German Empire this makes sense, it also explains why Germany didn't meet Italy before, as The German Empire and Austrian-Hungarian Empires were Allies with the Kingdom Of Italy prior to WWI.

[[WMG: Prussia is still around because of the House of Hohenzollern]]
The House of Hohenzollern was the royal family of Prussia and had been since before Old Fritz came along. According to TheOtherWiki, despite the abolition of the German monarchy in 1918, the House of Hohenzollern never relinquished their claims to the thrones of Prussia and the German Empire. Members of the family still style themselves princes of Prussia. This troper reasons that if some nut claiming a seafort and calling himself a prince is enough to create a nation-tan, then the descendents of a country's royal family continuing to claim the throne and call themselves princes of the country in question should be enough to keep one going.

[[WMG: Prussia is Germany's militarism]]
Okay, bear with me here. Modern Germany was created by combining the existing German states into one country. The personalities and defining traits of each of these states mixed together to create the 'Complete' Germany. Some of these states had enough of their own identity to continue existing as seperate beings, one example being Prussia. The question is, what aspect of Germany's psyche would Prussia represent? Looking through history, at the Teutonic Knights, Prussia and supposedly the GDR, all of these states have something in common- state glorification of war/violence, in other words, militarism. However, in the modern day, Germany is very anti-militaristic, so despite him caring about his brother, he is still rejecting what his brother represents. However, he can't make that part of him disappear, so instead Prussia is still hanging about, waiting until his brother needs him again...

[[WMG: The Kingdom of Prussia will return.]]
And that's why Prussia is still alive.\\
Whatever it is that decides when a nation-tan is going to die seems to know when a country is gone for good and when it's going to return. If they started to die as soon as their nation stopped existing, then we wouldn't still be on the original Poland. So the nation Prussia is going to return somehow.\\
I realise that this theory depends somewhat on Himaruya being clairvoyent... but why not?
* This might not be so farfetched. After all, it's been said that East Germany still has a different culture from West Germany, due to living under communism, as well as other factors. Maybe they re-separate into two countries, and the East renames itself Prussia? Then, all they have to do is put the Hohenzollern pretender on the throne...
* Actually, it returned as a [[http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/Free_State_of_Prussia reconstituted free state of Prussia]]. So, not a nation, exactly, but given Himaruya's recent micronation spree (Sealand, Seborga, Wy...) it's pretty plausible.

[[WMG: Prussia has always been alone because he took a vow of celibacy as a Teutonic priest/his extreme religiousness.]]
Because he was formed as a religious order, and because there are, in fact, legitimate drawings of him in Teutonic priest garb, it seems it could be possible that Prussia claims to hate "clustering" so much and likes to exalt the benefits of being alone simply because he has no other choice. Catholic priests take a vow of celibacy upon entering the papacy.
* So, with the wide-embracing of atheism in East Germany, in the modern era he should be racing to lose it.

[[WMG: Prussia is, in fact, a {{Cyborg}}.]]
After the end of WWII, the Allies had several plans for Germany. One was to split it into three parts and de-industrialize it, which was quickly scrapped due to being near impossible (an industrial society supports more people than a pre-industrial one, [[InferredHolocaust so what would happen to all those extra Germans]]). Instead, they went with the plan we're all familiar with, in which Germany was split into occupied zones governed by the Allies, and later reconstituted as [[TheAtoner today's Germany]]. Well, all except for one piece...

Before and during WWII, Hitler centralized Germany as much as he could, removing many of the special rights as he could from German states and cities. For example, Austria ("''Österreich''" meaning "Eastern Realm") became "''Östmark''" (meaning Eastern March), basically making it a simple area of Germany and attempting to remove any aspects of a separate Austrian identity. Prussia was another one of the hardest hit, and lost pretty much every right he had as the Kingdom of Prussia within Germany, and later the Free State of Prussia with the Weimar Republic. At the end of WWII, the Allies were set to make this ''de facto'' status official, and also disassembled Prussia's body, giving much of it to Poland and Russia. Prussia likely would have died, his people and land (the Russian occupation zone) becoming part of Germany...

However, Russia, not wanting to play nice and deciding instead to not completely reunify Germany as a Federal Republic, declared "WeCanRebuildHim!!!" *SlasherSmile*

Thus, the Russian occupied zone was reconstituted as the German Democratic Republic (GDR). This is represented by having Russia perform some [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel seriously disturbing surgery]] on Prussia, giving his land and people a new country, but also integrating as much Soviet philosophy, government, doctrine, technology, and culture as he possibly could. This, combined with the fact that Russia annexed historical East Prussia (Kaliningrad), resulted in Robo!Prussia. Robo!Prussia remained a loyal Soviet underling for decades before the USSR collapsed. This, of course, allowed Gilbert to reunify with his brother, although his continued robotic existence kept him somewhat separate from his brother (read: ''Ostalgie''). However, Russia still has control of the Kaliningrad region (which acts as a type of remote control). He simply awaits the best moment to... make use of it.

The personification of Kaliningrad, the Soviet ace-in-the-hole? ... [[spoiler:''' ''GILBIRD'' ''']]

[[WMG: Prussia is actually Lithuania and Latvia's brother.]]
The original Prussia was Baltic in language. However, he was only the two Baltics' half-brother, as his father was Germania. When he became the Order of the Teutonic Knights, Prussia tried to forget his original Baltic identity and was successful in doing so.

[[WMG: Prussia is actually the city King Of Prussia, Pennsylvania.]]
* He still lives with his brother because America didn't feel like putting up with him.
** Or Prussia, IA, or New Prussia, ON... There are a lot of places.

[[WMG: Yet another why-Prussia-is-still-around WMG]]
Prussia is still around because he originally wasn't a country at all. He wasn't even ''Prussia'' - the original Prussia was a country in Europe that the Teutonic Order took over. Thanks to this unusual origin, the awesomeness that is Prussia will never be destroyed.
* Considering how vicious the knights were, and how vicious Prussia eventually became, it's likely Prussia killed the older nation and took its name.

[[WMG: Prussia's died lots of times.]]
...and keeps coming back because he's awesome.
* My headcanon is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavus_von_Tempsky this]] is one of his deaths... yes I know he doesn't look a thing like him... see the below entry?

[[WMG: Prussia is a TimeLord.]]
Someone had to say it.

[[WMG: Prussia is the Holocaust.]]
Inspired by a fanfic, yes. But hear me out. There have been a few good fanfics of Prussia being imprisoned behind old Luddy's back. Without anyone to represent them, the people in the concentration camps stopped thinking about themselves as Germans and Poles ect. and started thinking of themselves as members of the concentration camp, later referred to as the holocaust. And Prussia was just chillin without a country. So he took over.

[[WMG: Prussia and {{Rance}} are the same person, just from different dimensions.]]
This means that somewhere in the Ranceverse, there is a country called Rance, and it is ''awesome''. And hey, Rance's theme ''is'' a remix of the East Germany anthem.

[[WMG: Prussia, or a descendant of him, goes on to become the [[LegendOfTheGalacticHeroes Galactic Empire]].]]
Taken in part from [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/LegendOfGalacticHeroes the Legend of the Galactic Heroes WMG]], it wouldn't really be surprising if it turns out that Gilbert, or at least his successor, is the Empire, especially given how blatantly German it is (or more specifically, ''Prussian''). Suppose that he manages to be the one who convinced Kaiser Rudolf to forge that interstellar country in the first place? Eventually, he'd be the premier Nation in the galaxy (though perhaps not the ''only'' one left, given the Free Planets Alliance, Phezzan and the fringe worlds). On the other hand, it's not hard to imagine this being a tad bitter, especially when Hungary, Austria and Germany would have been long dead by the time the series takes place...

[[WMG: Prussia is still around because of the comic]]
Okay, this troper's head canon is that nation-tans exist as long as their's enough people who think of themselves as being part of that nation. Even though Prussia ceased to exist as a state decades ago, there were still enough people around who thought of themselves as Prussian to keep Gilbert going (being East Germany for a while may also have helped). However, with the passage of time, the people who identified themselves as Prussian or East German steadily decreased in number and under norml circumstances Gilbert would have eventually faded away. But them, luckily for Prussia, Axis Powers Hetalia comes along and suddenly there's a hoard of Prussia fans, with any of them who have the right ancestry proclaiming themselves to be Prussia (there's an entire group devoted to it on deviantArt for pete's sake). The number of people that Prussia has to his name shoots up and he bounces back from the brink.
* Going off of this, Prussia is the one who told Himaruya about the nation-tans in the first place. The only reason he took so long to appear is that he knew if he was the star or even just one of the leads, other -tans would suspect and his plan to survive would be ruined. So he made it Italy because if it had to be someone else, at least it's cute little Italy. (II'm pretty sure he thinks Italy's cute in canon, I think it's in one of the Drama CDs?)

[[WMG:Prussia is now a [[GirlGenius Jagermonster]].]]
He's a powerful soldier with a strong accent, he already looks a little unusual by human standards even if he hasn't got the six-inch fangs, and Episode 12 shows him with the appropriate NiceHat. He doesn't wear the Nice Hat in public in order not to attract suspicion. This is why he hasn't aged since the fall of Prussia; he would have become a regular human if he hadn't drunk the Jagerbrau, and now he's a Jager, he'll live for hundreds more years.

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[[folder:Other Nations]]

!Other Nations
WMG regarding the rest of the official Manga/AxisPowersHetalia nations goes here.

[[WMG:Himaruya will choose the ponytail guy for Portugal]]
* Ponytail guy is popular all over pixiv and tumblr. To the point where people act him as canon. Plus, the Portuguese fandom probably emailed Himaruya to make Portugal a dude since a girl is an "icky" representation of their country. He'll probably do a {{ascended fanon}}.
** ...I fail to see how a female representation of Portugal is "icky."

[[WMG: What Thailand's {{Verbal Tic}} means]]
* In the series, Thailand says "ana" after every sentence. In the 1860's, Anna Leowens (of {{The King and I}} fame0 came to Siam (now Thailand) to teach the royal court about Westernization. Thailand must of liked her so much, he adopted the verbal tic of "ana" to remember her by.
** Actually, it's a real verbal tic said by Thais in certain situations, explained here: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=211093352245163

[[WMG: Canada is...]]
[[WildMassGuessing American Theories]] (''[[WebOriginal/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries In America]]'') propose that [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Seekret Plans]] = {{Badass}} = [[{{Badass}} Canada]] = [[{{Badass}} Canada]] is a closet {{Yandere}} and will someday open a Can of Whoop Ass on his bro America. Literally (and gangstah style)? And/or he secretly controls a portion of the galactic trade organization from Earth...[[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment secretly]]. (Because he is [[{{Badass}} Canada]]. And [[{{Badass}} Canada]] is... Wait, who were we talking about again?)
** Haha, awesome. Of, course, though, the result will be that he'll go BadAss and nobody will bother to see/hear/notice it happen.

[[WMG: Finland is a NightmareFuelStationAttendant]]
It explains the creepy name suggestions.
* Some fanfics have painted him in this light.

[[WMG:Lithuania is a {{Yandere}} and a convincing StepfordSmiler.]]
Because if Russia managed to rub off on ''Latvia'', then imagine how easy it must be for Lithuania, who is Russia's 'favorite'. Estonia is sane because Russia doesn't particularly like him.
* On a related note, apparently Lithuania has the world's highest suicide rate. Make of that what you will.
** Lithuania also has the highest homicide rate in the EU but the country has 4.8% of Russians which is really small compared to Estonia and Latvia so I don't think it was Russia "rubbing off" of him.

[[WMG: There used to be a ''lot'' of Korea in the anime...]]
... and when the protests started the studio chopped out his scenes and replaced them with previews for Cleaning Out the Storage.
* You have made my day.
[[WMG:Poland is secretly a badass]]
[[WMG: Netherlands looks like America]]
Or rather, America looks like Netherlands. Canada seems to have some physical traits from France but America looks nothing like England. The explanation is that he was actually the personification of New Netherlands and was given to England after the Third Anglo-Dutch War.
* [[http://himaruya.blog61.fc2.com/blog-entry-689.html Ehhhhh....]]
** Maybe a little around the eyes.
** If the hair was parted like America's I could see it. Maybe he got Netherland's hair, a mix of Sweden and Finland's features (they mentioned finding him), and England's laws, governing ideals, and other features (whathaveyou)... the melting pot in full swing. Perhaps he has a bit from France too, who knows... Canada simply has more noticeable aspects of France and England because he was raised by them longer and the ethnic populations of Canada resemble them the most (French and English Canadians, respectively).
** In Hetalia, everyone has OnlySixFaces. Of course they look alike.
* If America started as the personification of any "New _____" colony, it was New Sweden. [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/sntr.html The Battle For America strip]] talks about America first appearing to Finland and Sweden in the latter's territory, not in New Netherlands. The strip also implies that America resembles Finland more than England or France (they promptly deny that it matters).
** There were more Finns in New Sweden than Swedes, too.
[[WMG: Poland isn't done developing his character]]
Thanks to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_%28Polish_trade_union%29 Solidarity]]

[[WMG: All will not become one with Russia. All ''will'' become one with Belarus.]]
Belarus is the only country that even ''Russia's'' afraid of, though that might have more to do with the obsessive incestuous stalking than political reasons. Someday he'll crack and fall under Belarus's sway, then with his help, she will take over the world.
* [[BewareTheniceOnes Ukraine]] is the woman-behind the woman-behind the man.
* But Belarus only cares about her brother. She couldn't care less about the others. She would just nuke them all if anything so that [[MurderTheHypotenuse they would be out of the way for good.]]
** ''Exactly''. She will kill the other nation-tans and claim their land, and the world will end up with one country: Belarussia.

[[WMG: South Italy becomes the Vatican]]
After the two halves of Italy reunite, there really isn't a need for BOTH of them. However, Vatican City is recognized as an independent country, so Lovino switches from being South Italy to being the representation of the Vatican. His boss is the Pope.
* I am more of a mind of him becoming Sicily. It has a culture and economy different from that of the rest of Italy. The people have much pride in their island, describing themselves as Sicilians first and Italians second. They also have their own language. Sicily is different from the rest of Italy to the point that it's an autonomous region. Another fact is that Sicily is home base to the mafia. All these factors point at Romano becoming Sicily, which strongly identifies with the rest of Southern Italy, rather than the Vatican, which has a culture better related to Northern Italy.
** I Always Thought Grandpa Rome became the Vatican. Because IRL The Vatican Resisted Italy Joining The HRE.
*** [[http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/Cal05000/Proof1.png]] | [[http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/Cal05000/Proof2.png]]
** The Vatican is it's own independent nation, isn't it?
*** According to the [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Vatican_City Hetalia Wiki]], Vatican exists and is at odds with the Italies.

[[WMG: Mama Egypt committed suicide alongside Cleopatra.]]
* Actually, she converted to Islam and changed her name.
** Egypt only converted to Islam after he was conquered by Rome and converted to Coptic Christianity. By that time, Mama Egypt was long gone.
** Ancient Rome is mentioned to have fallen in love with Ancient Egypt at first sight. Odds are, he conquered her, and some time in between the fall of Rome and the coming of Islam was the birth of modern Egypt. Perhaps Egypt died along with Rome circa 500 A.D., followed by a brief century or two of baby!Modern Egypt, who was then conquered and raised by Arabia, and then conquered and taken in by Ottoman!Turkey before that stuff with France and Britain and his "protectorate" status under Iggy. He then gained independence and became a republic under Nasser.
*** My personal theory is that Mama Egypt died when Ancient Egypt lost its culture. The Romans basically reverted Egypt to a classical culture based mostly off that of Ancient Greece. Therefore, for my theory, I believe that Mama Egypt committed suicide after Grandpa Rome conquered her, wanting to die a queen and not a slave. She did, however, leave behind her son to be come the modern Egypt.

[[WMG: Poland's possessiveness toward Lithuania stems from his secret jealousy of Austria.]]
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole,_Hungarian,_two_good_friends Poland used to be (and still is) best friends with Hungary]]. Then Austria came into the picture and married Hungary, taking his wife to live with him. Poland was left bitter and jealous as a result and compensates by being clingy over the friends that he still has.

[[WMG: Tino Väinämöinen (Finland)'s name is not actually [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Tino or Timo]], it is in fact [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Häyhä Simo]].]]
Because naming the personification of Finland anything other than the single most BadAss sniper of WWII is a crime against history, fictional comic strip or not be damned (note: not actually being Finnish, I just think that this WMG would be totally bad ass. More historical information is needed to see this happen).
* Seconded. I also now have a mental image of Finland with a rifle and Russia looking uncharacteristically nervous.
** Perhaps Russia tried repeatedly to break into Finland's house, only to be shot at from seemingly nowhere, foiling every attempt?
*** Okay, the above needs to happen. I don't care if it's canon, or in a fanfic/fancomic, it just needs to be done.
**** Some fanfic author out there has to see this, or maybe has already written one or at least knows of one?
**** On a related note Sniper!Finland is a fairly popular subject of fanart.
***** Links, ''please''. On [[http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp169/Murasakinekomata/Hetalia/114491592.jpg another related note]] (mildly NSFW due to [[ClusterFBomb gratuitous use of the F-Word]]).
****** Your [[http://typelike.deviantart.com/art/Sniper-Finland-133458343 wish]] is my [[http://scientificromance.deviantart.com/art/APH-Sniper-Tino-updated-124484288 command]]. [[http://purplenekomata.deviantart.com/art/APHTF2-Sniper-Finland-145043886 Five]][[http://monkey-sama.deviantart.com/art/APH-Finland-151699042 fan]] [[http://bearcatt.deviantart.com/art/APH-quot-Tino-Hayha-quot-121201871 arts]] and [[http://masa-kocha.deviantart.com/art/Cold-Sniper-152662054 two]] [[http://strawberry-itchiko.deviantart.com/art/Cosplay-Sniper-Tino-145288481 cosplays]]. And on a related note, [[http://musiclover1993.deviantart.com/art/White-Death-120722452 a fan fic]].
******* FinnsWithFearsomeForests ?

[[WMG: Katyusha is actually the current Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Timoshenko in disguise]]
* plaited hair, blond hair, does Katyusha/Ukraine remind you of the Ukrainian Prime Minister?
* your mileage may vary, though. [[{{BewareTheNiceOnes}} Still...]]
* Her name's not Katyusha and her hair was only braided in childhood. She's shown being hysterically obedient to her boss-of-the-moment, while Tymoshenko and former president Yushchenko had a significant falling-out.

[[WMG: Holy Roman Empire is actually a girl, and is not Germany.]]
She is, instead, Liechtenstein. The tiny country has been described as the last remnant of the Holy Roman Empire. There are some awesome one-shots out there that explore this.
* {{Jossed}}. The Voice Actor for the HRE is male. If that was female, at least that theory would hold water.
* {{Jossed}} definitively. Not only is HRE constantly referred to as male, there's even a strip where he runs away from Chibitalia because of an erection.
* This seemed completely ridiculous at first, but then I pondered it for a bit. Perhaps instead Liechtenstein is actually a boy, forgot about the past and for some reason thinks s/he's a girl and made a very convincing trap to the other countries, explaining why s/he was "mistaken" for a boy in that one strip. This could however be {{Jossed}} as she has an official genderbend. Another observation is HRE has {{Monochromatic Eyes}} which Liechtenstein has and Germany does not. But in all honesty, these are all most likely coincidences and I would still bet my money on HRE = Germany considering the author's standards, unless an {{Ass Pull}} for {{Rule Of Funny}} occurs.
** Liechtenstein is female, there's just way too much evidence to question that one. And considering there's also a mountain of evidence for HRE being a male, this theory is {{Jossed}} for good.

[[WMG: It's South Italy who represents the country - North has the same status as Prussia.]]
Well, South Italy supposedly represents Rome which -is- the capital of Italy.
* In connection, the explanation goes along the lines of why Prussia (as East Germany) still would be alive after the fall of the Berlin wall. The nations, perhaps, are more representative of their cultures than of their specific landmasses. As long as major cultural differences exist, then so will that particular nation-tan. And, since North and South Italy are still quite different places that make up a whole, they both represent their country simultaneously.
* It's possible that ''South'' has the same status as Prussia: Berlin and Brandenburg are both found in East Germany, after all...

[[WMG: Belgium has a muscle deficiency.]]
In [[http://himaruya.blog61.fc2.com/blog-entry-716.html this blog entry]], Belgium says a saxophone is too heavy for her to lift, even for a short time. The average saxophone weighs about 6 to 7 kilograms. A normal woman would be able to lift it.
* If Belgium represents European Union, as most of European institutions are based in Brussels, it can be a consequence of the financial crisis. It would mean that she takes the damages of 27 countries.
* Could also have something to do with the current linguistic divide/constitutional crisis in Belgium - if her people are that divided they can't form government, that could have an impact on her strength.

[[WMG: Rome is the father of Greece and Egypt.]]
...I probably don't have to explain this one.
* That would explain Egypt's light skin but a guy invading his uncle?
** Eh, pretty much all of the royal families of Europe are related but they still kept attacking each other for centuries. A nation attacking his uncle would be downright fitting.
** Considering that Rome was in love with Ancient Egypt and Ancient Greece... I would consider this definitely possible.

[[WMG: Holy Roman Empire and Chibitalia's versions of ''Marukaite Chikyuu'' are either a mistake or a prediction of the future]]
Think about it. "''Draw a circle, here's the world''"? The Chibitalia miniseries takes place in olden days... so wouldn't the world '''not''' be a circle? Shouldn't it be: "''Draw a line/cube/flat plane, here's the world''"? Not only that, I wouldn't think they'd have bolognese by then.
* ..They already knew the earth was round in the middle ages.
* {{You Fail History Forever}}
* Italy also did have pasta during that time, although only bolognese ''sauce'' was invented recently. They most likely did have bolognese back in the middle ages (since all they need to do is add tomatoes and meat balls to pasta and anything else of their liking), but it probably wasn't called bolognese, or it possibly was. I don't know much about the history of Italian cuisine so I could be wrong. The above tropers already disproved the "predicting the earth is round" theory so there's no need to get into that.

[[WMG: Australia's human name is Bruce]]
Why mess with a perfectly good stereotype, especially since it's Hetalia we're talking about.
* Honestly, I preferred something like Oswald, or 'Oz' for short, since that's what Australia's nicknamed anyway, at least from what I've seen when watching {{F1}}.
** Ladies and gentleman! Introducing: Bruce "Oz" Oswald, AKA Australia!
*** Somehow I would have thought Australia's last name would be Kelly, after Ned Kelly. How can you NOT name Australia after the father of Badassry in his land? Also the surname Kelly is in the top ten most common surnames in Australia still, so it is contempory too.
**** Bruce Oswald "Oz" Kelly. We all win.

[[WMG: The Vatican is father of both Italies.]]
Himaruya mentioned a Grandpa Rome, but he never told who was the father of both Italies. The Vatican being old may be a good candidate for one.
* Alternatively, maybe the Vatican (being historically younger) is the Italies' little brother or cousin, he simply has a case of less-delayed aging so he looks more like their grandfather by now. He prides himself on looking older and uses it to his advantage!
** The Catholic Church came out of Rome and was always a powerful political entity even before it officially became the Vatican.
*** I can actually see him being older that Rome, at least using Hetalia!Logic. As the Vatican received its name from an older name for the site on which it stands. In ancient times a low, level region on the western bank of the Tiber River was known as Ager Vaticanus ("Vatican Field"). This name is believed to be derived from Vaticum, the name of an Etruscan settlement which vanished centuries before the earliest Roman history. The origin and meaning of Vaticum is not known for certain. In Latin vates mean "prophet", and vaticinatio, "prophecy." Some authorities have theorized that Vaticum, which was outside the limits of ancient Rome, was so called because a legendary priestly king once revealed oracles to his people there. Over time the name Vatican came to refer specifically to a nearby hill rather than to the land area near the river, and was used as a graveyard by the Roman Empire.

[[WMG: Mongolia is partially responsible for Russia's psychosis.]]
The Mongol Empire was incredibly brutal, so it would stand to reason that Mongolia's unsavory methods of conquest left a big mark on Russia's psyche.
* Not to mention Ivan the Terrible causing some more trauma in there too.

[[WMG: [[LukeIAmYourFather Turkey is Greece's father]].]]
* They have the same IdiotHair, just like the Italies have the same ones as their grandfather Rome.
** I don't see why not, considering old notes ''did'' say he was in love with her...
* History doesn't agree with you much... Turkey originally came from central Asia, before he moved through the entire continent, invaded Constantinople(which also put an end to Byzantium), renamed it Istanbul, etc. It even says he used to be brothers with Japan on his profile, which sort of explains him being 'protective' against Greece. Greece used to be part of the Ottoman Empire, but the Idiot Hair seems like something Mediterraneans have, so I'm guessing Turkey got his when he settled in where he is now.
** The fact that he came from Asia doesn't really stop him from becoming Greece's dad later on... Also, Egypt and the other Mediterranean nations don't have that curl. Minus a hatless TRNC in an unfinished sketch, and he can be considered Turkey's kid too.

[[WMG: Taiwan once pretended to be China in UN meetings.]]
* There is a good reason why Taiwan has the same [[YukiKaida VA]] as China's. By altering her voice, Taiwan can get away with cosplaying as China in UN meetings. After all, Taiwan called herself the Republic of China. However, the real China found out about her ruse and begged the other nations to kick her out of the UN.
** It's more likely that the rest of the Allies and the UN simply didn't recognize the change of government China went through after his civil war, resulting in the communist PRC (America, leading the others, opted to continue recognizing the ROC through Taiwan. It was no secret to any government that the Nationalist side only controlled a few islands, after all. The change in UN recognition likely occurred after China convinced America and his Boss, Nixon, to recognize China's government and not Taiwan's.

[[WMG: Canada is a seekret {{Yandere}}]]

[[WMG: Mother Greece's name is Helen.]]
Well, Ancient Greece is sometimes known as Hellenistic Greece, and it's not like the name didn't exist, [[Literature/TheIliad Helen of Troy, anyone?]]
** "Hellenistic Greece" is actually a period of Ancient Greece. And by your logic, Greece should be named Helen as well, since the country's official name is Hellenic Republic, "Hellas" being the Greek word for Greece. (Needless to say, the words "Hellas" and "Helene" are not related.)

[[WMG: Spain thought America was a girl when he first saw "her".]]
America is an actual Spanish girl's name and it was the Spanish who named America so...
P.S. I know the name applies technically to both continents and the country itself is technically the United States, [[MST3KMantra but just go]] [[RuleofFunny along with it]].
* And he didn't find out America was actually a boy until Florida was handed over.

[[WMG: Canada is an Alternate Universe counterpart to [[FamilyGuy Meg Griffin]].]]
Just think about it.
* Which would, by extension, make America/Alfred an AlternateUniverse Chris. Hey, it kind of works......!
** Not quite. Chris is Meg's younger brother, and Canada is ''younger'' than America.
*** On a joke theory, but there's been no statement over which of the two is older. It will completely depends upon which colony birthed the eventual country. Considering how early European maps had identified a 'Canada', he could easily be the elder one.
**** Nope. America started to become what it is today on July 4th, 1776. Canada didn't form until 1867.
***** By that logic, America wouldn't have been born until the revolution began (which obviously wasn't the case). The French founded Canada back in 1534 which, even if we take America's birth as the earliest colony founded within his future territory, makes Canada nearly a century the senior.
****** But America was discovered in 1492. Shouldn't that make America older than Canada?
******* You're confusing the Americas with the US, and discovery with colonization. Columbus landed in what is now the Bahamas, and he pillaged but he didn't colonize. Even if he did, it wouldn't have affected the development of the character America. Even Columbus wasn't the first to discover the Americas, that honor is more correctly attributed to Vikings. Who, by the way, landed in what is now Canada.
******** But the vikings landed on what is now Newfoundland and Newfoundland was its own colony separate from Canada until 1949. And was in effect the last province to join Canada since Nunavut was created from the NWTs which were already part of Canada.
********* It's still Canadian, now, which was the point they were trying to make.

[[WMG: New Zealand's ahoge channels the circular energy of the universe.]]
Just take a look at that curl and think about it. It's scary.
** Then what about everyone else's ahoges...?
* Alternatively, [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann is actually made of Spiral Power]].
* Or something [[{{Uzumaki}} much, much worse.]]

[[WMG: Korea might be rewritten back to the original Fem!Korea pop-singer character if he was to return in the anime.]]
Though of course, his character design stays male. At least this would appease the Korean MoralGuardians.
* The problem with that theory is that the Fem!Korean was put into Himaruya's short-lived comic [=MoeKan=]. Unlike Hetalia, which is an AffectionateParody, [=MoeKan=] is pretty insulting in regards to Koreans (that is, when put in comparison). Like the Koreans investigating Hetalia when the anime was announced, they'd probably investigate [=MoeKan=] and get even madder.
* Alternately, Fem!Korea might be retconned as the ''North'', if only for the FIFA World Cup-related strips.

[[WMG: The two hooded enemies of Hungary, Wallachia and Moldavia, were actually Romania and Moldova in disguise.]]
* Of course with Moldova being introduced, it was theorized that Romania will somehow look like Moldova. And besides, Wallachia was the core of Romania in RealLife.

[[WMG: Greece is the father of the Italy brothers and doesn't know it]]
* Also, the Italy brothers are actually half-brothers and have different moms.

[[WMG: If Rome is the Italies' grandfather, the Italies also have a father/mother.]]
Italy Veneziano sometimes represents the Duchy of Milan and sometimes the Republic of Venice. Italy Romano corresponds more or less to the Kingdom of Sicily/Naples/Two Sicilies.
What occupied the Italian Peninsula between the fall of Rome and the creation of these states?
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Italy_%28medieval%29 The Lombard Kingdom of Italy!]] All of the various Italian city-states that popped up later are his/her children.
* The series seems to very purposely side-steps direct descending, though. It could simply be allusion to the fact that that there are many, many things which lead to a nation being formed, and that the 'relatives' only were a prime aid in that. Considering characters never mention parents (I've never seen any talk of it, but then I could have skimmed over that), maybe none of them actually have those relations...
** Greece does. Ancient Greece has been referred to as his mother repeatedly.

[[WMG: Most countries in Western Europe are related.]]
Spain, Portugal, France, Veneziano, England and his brothers, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, and Liechtenstein all are the great-grandchildren of two brothers: Celtiberia (Spain, Portugal, Ireland, and Scotland) being the elder, and La Tene (France, England, Wales, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, and Liechtenstein) being the younger.
** I have also long thought that the European countries were related but rather more recently (relatively speaking) then the above. Two words: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_period Migration Period]]. The Roman Empire almost certainly played a part as well.
*** I would like to point out that the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtiberians Celtiberians]] and the La Tene cultures both predate the Roman Empire by centuries. However, your point still stands.
**** I wouldn't be surprised if both applied, although that could lead to inbreeding jokes. Either way, it'd explain why a lot of European history (Ex: the England vs France thing) tends to feel like a series of family arguments and feuds that have got really out of hand.
** I drew up a [[http://a.imageshack.us/img529/9178/font1.png family tree]] for Western Europe, to the best of my ability. I left out some familial links that would be important, and I didn't do the Slavic countries or Scandinavia, because that's beyond my comprehension of how they relate to each other. Tell me what you think.
*** [[SincerityMode I like it]]. It has a few areas that I'd argue on, but those would probably be just nitpicking[[hottip:*:Since Canada is portrayed as equally British and French, and since Quebec-kun has never been more than a bad dream of Canada's, I'd place English Canada & Quebec together on one line, but distinct from one another, both to show "a nation within a nation" and the fact that Canada is basically portrayed as Britain and France's colonial-era lovechild in {{Fanon}}. As well, Canada would also be closer to both Britain and France with America on the other side, due to the close ties Canada had with both nations.]]. Scandinavia would probably fit in as a direct relative of Germania. Germanic culture started in Scandinavia and far-northern Germany, so the current Scandinavian nations would likely be cousins or uncles of the Germanic nations seen in the strips.
**** Russia and his sisters would also be [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus%27_%28people%29 related to the Nordics]], specifically Sweden.

[[WMG: New Zealand's gender will NEVER be revealed.]]
Maybe it's another [[SoulEater Crona]].
* As a New Zealander I fully support this, if only for the RuleOfFunny.
** If [[http://blog-imgs-26-origin.fc2.com/h/i/m/himaruya/hj3.jpg this]] is anything to go by, this may even be canon (Text Translation: What do you think I am?)
*** To add on to the above troper, the question was "Is New Zealand a man or a woman?" and [[AmbiguousGender he/she/it]] replied "Which one do you think?"

[[WMG: Canada's ahoge is Quebec.]]
It sticks out and pretty much demands to be noticed, it helps set Canada apart from his brother America, [[IncrediblyLamePun it's kinda loopy]], but it doesn't wanna detach itself from Canada's head.
* But it's already been said that Quebec-kun lives with Canada somewhere.
** No, that was just a nightmare Canada had. There may or may not be an actual Quebec character.
*** Provinces are canon, first off. But, with how much Quebec enjoys rebelling against/clinging off/annoying the rest of Canada, he probably has a lot of nightmares about his wayward province.
* And it's alluded to that Montreal is his vital regions. In terms of land mass, though, Quebec is the largest province, and it's pretty much in second place for most everything else. I, at least, can't really see that such a huge part of the country would be represented as a single (if prominent) hair while 'lesser' provinces/territories would by default have to represent huge sections of the body.
** Then which part of Canada represents Ontario?
*** Canada hasn't been expanded on, so it's impossible to know for certain. But, considering Ontario contains the financial center, capital, largest population, etc., it's probably his head.
* I don't know about Quebec. But there are a few provinces who I could easily picture as certain body parts for Canada. Ontario=the head. Alberta=the ahem uh groin( Alberta seems very masculine). Saskatchewan=the stomach(because it produces so many of the crops)
** Actually perhaps Quebec could be the heart since it was the first colony and the maple leaf which is often used to symbolize Canada only grows in mass quantities in Quebec?
* Personally, I always saw Canada being diced up like [[http://xinorix.deviantart.com/art/Canadian-Anatomy-150470581 this.]] Quebec being the neck goes to that MyBigFatGreekWedding quote: "The man is the head (of the house), but the woman is the neck. And she can turn the head any way she wants."

[[WMG: Canada is Ontario and the other provinces other than Quebec]]
This is going off the idea that some of the nations are form the same place, but represent different cultures and ethnicities. Think about it- Quebec is the only Province in Canada where more people speak French than English. Furthermore, Quebec is the only province shown in hetalia, so 'Canada' could just be the representation of the other provinces!
* Kumajiro could represent the territories
* We probably just haven't seen the other provinces/territories because they haven't been necessary to the plot, considering it's already been established that things like province-tans exist. It could be Canada/Kumajiro are like North/South Italy, while the provinces work under them.
* I don't think that English Canada could be represented by just one person if the territories and Quebec get their own representation. I think it would make more sense if that were the case to have the regions of Canada represented separately i.e. BC,Ontario, the prairies, the Maritimes, Newfoundland, Quebec, Territories.
* At least have Newfoundland have its own state-tan. I mean it was the last province to join and the last bit of land that Canada aquired. And Newfoundland was a separate colony during both world wars and it is also where the vikings landed way back when.

[[WMG: Denmark and England are directly related]]
Denmark conquered England and unified with him back in the 11th century, and the Danish influence on England was the single largest, arguably. To this day, thousands and thousands of places in England have Danish (well, Norse) names and were named by Denmark, and up to 40% of people in some parts of England have Danish or Norwegian blood. The English language is also largely drawn from Norse, and English and Danish are weirdly similar languages. Plus, look at Denmark's eyebrows. They aren't on England's scale, but they're the biggest of anyone who isn't part of the England family.
* They're also both heavy drinkers.
* Hmm, historically speaking, the term 'England'was used well before the Viking invasion (it literally means 'land of the Angles' after all), so England-the-person would have been around before then too. On the other hand, the Angles themselves came from an area which now covers parts of both northern Germany and southern Denmark. Other contributors to the population at the time that England came into being were the Britons and Romano-British, Saxons, Jutes and Frisians (maybe, no one's 100% sure about that one). The Saxons were from what is now Germany, while the Jutes homeland is believed to also include part of Denmark. As for the language, Old English was the language of the Anglo-Saxons, although odds are that it had the same root as old Danish, hence the similarity. The culture was much the same as well, IE: fight-happy and with the same gods (although their names were slightly different, eg Woden instead of Oden ect). In short, England's family tree is really flipping complicated, but I can see how he'd be more closely related to Denmark then Germany. Not sure how direct they'd be though, maybe it'd be more like uncle (Denmark) and nephew (England) or cousins rather then brothers.

[[WMG: Several supposedly male nations are actually [[SweetPollyOliver female]] ]]
Because of the prejudice against girls doing things that existed throughout history, they disguised themselves as males to command more respect. Candidates include
* Poland (because duh)
* Norway (Look at him/her?)
* Finland (There must be a reason why Sweden calls him/her the ''wife'')
* China(?) (This is more for the sake of having a TokenGirl on the main characters side, but considering how girls are treated in China, I wouldn't be surprised..)
** I can't speak for the others, but Poland has been naked in canon. Considering France, America, and an intoxicated England were all present as well, if Poland wasn't male there would have been something said.
** [[DudeLooksLikeALady China]], too, has been seen without a shirt/in a wife-beater/naked at some point, and he was definetly a male. Plus [[WordOfGod Himaruya]] himself has stated his gender outright. AND he has a GenderBender self, [[UnfortunateImplications so]]...
*** Link to Himuraya's statement or it didn't happen. I thought he said China was androgynous?
*** And I quote from China's character sheet: "Lampshaded in his entry on the official character chart: 'The only female member of the Allies. Not.'"
**** The identification map listed him as such, but it also did that to Lithuania and Poland who have been repeatedly confirmed to be male. I wouldn't put much stake in it, anymore.
** "He" could just be referring to himself as male to pass as male, and the others either don't know or are keeping it a secret. Maybe he's just androgyne and flat chested? His gender bender self is a boy dressed as a girl, to fit in with the other countries.
** One of Finland's innumerable objections to the marriage is that he's male, and (although not PC) the term 'wife' in a relationship is often used as a sign of dominance.
** Norway had an entire strip where he (as well as the other Nordics) referred to him with male terms. It was pretty much the point of that particular comic.
*** A coverup? Or maybe mistaken sex?
**** A cover up from who? For what reason? There's no point. And the Nordics (most of them, anyway) have been together for well over a millennia. Especially considering one of them is a hyperactive loud-mouth with little regard for other's wants, it would have come out and stayed out.\\
We still don't know China's sex for certain, but these speculations are getting out of hand. Yes, there was gender confusion in the series, but it was on two young children (who we already knew the real sex of, by the way) when all the discussion is on grown men. Just because you can apply such a concept to a few characters doesn't mean that everyone who isn't RatedMForManly should be automatically suspected.
***** "We still don't know China's sex for certain"? Oh for goodness' sake, [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/v2_014-024.html HIMA HIMSELF]] refers to China as male. Calling him big brother and comparing him to an old man...what more proof do you need?

[[WMG: Spain controls Paul the Octopus.]]
* Explains his win at the 2010 World Cup. No wonder why Germany, Prussia, and the Netherlands are eager to make dinner out of the poor cephalopod when Paul's bets are against them.
** Don't forget Argentina. They were actually passing around recipes.
** [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/15/paul-the-octopus-madrid-transfer Well...]]

[[WMG: Grandpa Rome is Quintus from the Cambridge Latin Course textbooks grown up.]]
Why? [[RuleofCool Because it's awesome.]] And I can't unsee it.
* Argh, now I can't either. Then maybe Melissa is Ancient Greece!

[[WMG: If they appear in strips, and those strips get into the anime, Hong Kong and Taiwan will be replaced by talking pandas.]]
See: Tibet. After the mess with Korea, the studio probably doesn't want to risk stepping on over a billion more toes.
** But with Korea, they cut out all of the strips. If they foresee a serious problem with any character, they'd probably just follow the exact same pattern.
*** Particularly to avoid the UnfortunateImplications of portraying a group who isn't exactly happy with your series as subhuman.
*** To clarify, the original troper was thinking of something more preemptive, as with the anime storyline with China and kid Japan where they replaced Tibet with a panda.

[[WMG: Austria is a Pianist from {{Elona}}.]]
He always has his piano because he carries it with him everywhere.

[[WMG: Finland, with some help from Sweden, secretly wrote ScandinaviaAndTheWorld]]
Thus, the Finland there is much more aggressive than he would usually be as an expression of his hidden frustration, while the Sweden there is portrayed as something akin to the OnlySaneMan because he is the one who is closest to Finland. Denmark, Norway, and Iceland are also shown in AlternateCharacterInterpretation because this is how Sweden and Finland perceive them. Sweden's relationship with Aaland and the recent Finland trolling were thrown out as [[RedHerring red herrings]] to keep the other nations from catching on to the author's true identity.
* What about America's total dumbness? And the Sisters?
** America is pretty ignorant around most countries, so Finland probably gets the impression that America is dumb. He gets further flanderdized in the comics for the sake of humor. The Sisters were thrown in as FanService when Denmark read the comic and complained that there were no chicks.
*** So Humon is really a living Hetalia cast member?!
** This troper adores this theory, but Finland pretty much said it himself that he views Belgium as [[CoolBigSis mature and cheerful]]. So how come ScandinaviaAndTheWorld's Belgium is, [[NerdGlasses well...]]
*** The story is being published on Denmark's account, so it could have been Denmark's idea of a joke, just like how the sisters were thrown in so Denmark would continue publishing the comics.

[[WMG: Sealand is England's son.]]
We don't really know how genetics work in Hetalia, and there's no real evidence of this, but there are a couple of things which suggest their relationship is different to England and his other brothers.\\
First off, they have the same surname in their human names. The only other two characters who this applies to are the Italy brothers, and they are the same country. Generally speaking, different countries who are siblings have different surnames. Sealand isn't really a country, of course, but this is still pretty odd.\\
Second, while countries such as America and Australia were discovered, and people settled there, Sealand was ''built''. Other places would have been claimed by someone else if England hadn't, but Sealand wouldn't have existed at all if it weren't for him.\\
So why does it call them brothers? I've got a few possible explanations.
* England so far has only ever referred to his family as 'brothers', and that seems to be the general thing to claim new nations as. So why, when a new 'nation' appeared who looked like him, would he assume anything but that this was another little sibling? As stated, we don't know how these things work in Hetalia, so it's quite possible that he hasn't even realised.
* So far, the only nations known to have direct offspring are Rome, Germania, Ancient Egypt, and Ancient Greece. These all have one thing in common: they're dead. Think about it, if something happened to you, and everyone else it had happened to was now dead, you wouldn't be particularly keen to acknowledge that the event had happened.
* England basically disowned Sealand. Yes, he still looks out for him, but he rejected him. Rejecting a brother, while bad, isn't as bad as rejecting your own child. Either to keep up appearances with others, or to soothe his own guilty conscience, England calls Sealand his brother.
* Regular people don't seem to have any idea about the personified nations. Since England and Sealand's official 'ages' are twenty three and twelve respectively, Sealand calling him 'Dad' among ordinary people would look very weird. Going with an above theory on human names, it may be very important to keep their true identities secret, so England makes sure that Sealand can't let slip anything that may raise unwarranted interest by not telling him the truth.
* If it hurt when a brother left him, how much worse would it be with a son?
** But he originally ''liked'' that brother. Sealand... not so much.
*** Or he's just pretending to hate Sealand because it doesn't want to get hurt. He clearly cares about him.

As an extra to any of these ideas, England could have had a change of heart (or realised the truth) by now and decided to tell Sealand the truth, but changed his mind when he saw that Sealand was happy with Sweden now.
** I think the problem is, not just with this theory, what makes a nation directly descended and what makes them just related is confusing. Case in point: Norway and Iceland.\\
There is no evidence of people on Iceland before Norwegians settled there, which would seem to make Norway his parent. Despite this, they're brothers. In the same way, there were no people on Sealand until some [[strike:crazies]] citizens from the UK decided to settle there. If a relationship like that of the Nordics is firmly fraternal (somehow), I don't see a reason Sealand would be different.
*** Yes, it is very confusing, and as I said there isn't really evidence, it's just speculation. But as I see it, there ''is'' a difference, in that even if Norwegians hadn't settled in Iceland, the body of land would still have been there. Sealand is located on a manmade construction, which would not have been there if the UK hadn't built it. But there is no real evidence as to why this would make things different, so it is only speculation.
*** Regarding the Nordic situation, the second explaination given above would probably apply there as well. When having kids is seen as a sign that your days are numbered the last thing you'd want to do is tempt fate. Plus this troper has always figured that familial relationships in Hetalia were usually more of a state of mind then anything else. As for Sealand, that kid is pretty much one of a kind (he's the only man made nation for a start) so it's entirely possible that the usual rules don't apply, whatever said rules may be.

[[WMG: Russia/Sweden aren't the tallest nations.]]
Netherlands is. The nation-tan's height is supposed to be based off the average for its country, right? In that case, Netherlands would be the tallest, taller than Russia and Sweden.
* If its based on average height then Canada would be the second tallest which would coincidentally also work in regards to country size because he's the second largest country on the planet.
* [[http://www.interbasket.net/news/4385/2009/09/average-height-by-country-males-20-years/ Average Canadians are nowhere near the tallest...]]

[[WMG: Turkey raped Hungary]]
Ottoman Hungary was especially rebellious, and Turkey was the closest thing to a BigBad ever seen in the series, considering Germany's.... [[{{Bowdlerise}} softening up]] during [[ThoseWackyNazis WWII]]. As for canon, see the strip where Prussia finds Hungary injured: She explicitly states that Turkey/Ottoman Empire left her like that, and her clothes are torn to the point where Prussia got a pretty good look at her cleavage without trying. Her reaction to this is commenting on her "awesome muscles", implying she doesn't seem to fully understand that she's a girl ''quite'' yet (and so wouldn't be able to fully grasp exactly what Turkey did beyond simply beating her up) But following dialogue makes it seem like it's starting to sink in, meaning whatever Turkey did made her understand once and for all that she wasn't one of the guys. Prussia being the focus of the strip was meant to distract us from what happened here. Looking at [[http://www.queendom.com/articles/articles.htm?a=5 this site]], it could also explain:
* (number two) Her settling down into a maid and marrying/maintaining a relationship with Austria, whose gentle, refined demeanor makes him probably the male character most unlike Turkey.
* (number five) Her reaction to Austria being sexually harassed and the whole YaoiFangirl CovertPervert thing.
Her relationship with Prussia ([[HomeSweetHome wanted nothing to do with him one settled]], [[UnresolvedSexualTension beats him up]]) could be either of the above or a mix of both. She also seems like she's having a nightmare when God wakes her up and tells her about hitting France with a frying pan, but that may be stretching it a little.
* This theory makes too much sense for my liking. I will say that I seem to remember Hungary having a happy little giggle to herself at the end of the strip mentioned, which doesn't seem like all that natural a response, even if she didn't fully understand what had happened.

[[WMG: Canada is [[WebOriginal/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Bandit Keith]].]]
He finally cracks and goes insane after one too many incidents of being mistaken for America, changes his name and appearance, adopts 'in America!' as his catchphrase, and becomes obsessed with a Japanese childrens' card game, like real Americans do (cough[[TabletopGames Pokémon]]intheninetiescoughhackwheeze). It all makes sense now. In America.

[[WMG: Canada is the reason America is scared of ghosts]]
Canada borrows something and America thinks it's vanished. Canada puts something back in the wrong place and America thinks it moved on its own. Canada tries to talk to America and America hears mysterious whispering noises. Despite being barely visible, Canada successfully emotionally scarred his brother.
* Headcanon. ''' ''ACQUIRED.'' '''
* Best WMG ever.

[[WMG: HRE had a HeroicBSOD and became Germany because he finally learned [[DroppedABridgetOnHim the truth about Italy]]]]
A older HRE returned to Austria's house hoping to see his true love. He tells Austria and Hungary he's changed his name to Germany and given up his dreams of conquest for Italy's sake. Hungary, [[YaoiFangirl being who she is]], is thrilled. Austria attempts to break the news gently, but HRE passes out. When he wakes up the only thing he remembers is his name being Germany and that he wanted to form a large empire. Austria decides not to say anything because he'd have to explain why Italy was dressed like a girl in the first place.

[[WMG: Switzerland and Austria mend their broken friendship]]
Austria and Switzerland had a falling out specifically because the Hapsburgs moved their seat of power from what would become Swiss territory to Austrian land. However, the Austro-Hungarian Empire does not last forever. In the aftermath of World War II, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria#Foreign_policy Austria]] becomes a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_country#Recognised_as_neutral neutral]] country (expressly modelled on the Swiss system, but developed a bit differently). IRL, this had to do with Austria bordering most of the Communist Bloc (Hungary and pretty much all its former empire being made into Soviet Satellites after their liberation). In Hetalia, however, this would result into Austria needing to rethink his priorities. Having lost his empire (and his wife) following WWI, he pretty much went with Germany (inter-war) without putting up a fight. However, WWII went about as well for them as the first one. With Hungary now on the other side of a giant fence, and with no desire to join either of the main Blocs in Europe, Austria decided to rebuild the one friendship he'd been wanting to fix. Cue him nervously knocking on Switzerland's door...

... and once Switzerland was convinced to put his gun away, the next scene would be of Switzerland doing his normal "lessons" on Neutrality. Only now, [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Austria is sitting beside Liechtenstein and taking notes]]. Happily ever after... until the Iron Curtain falls and Austria joins the EU. ''' ''*BANG*'' '''
** Okay (minus that last bit), if that never gets into canon, then it ''needs'' to be a fan strip, because seriously... ''aww.''

[[WMG: In relation to the above theory, Austria and Hungary have a tearful reunion following TheGreatPoliticsMessUp]]

Being separated from your ex-wife (who you were forced to divorce) by a giant fence must suck. It's been noted on TheOtherWiki that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria-Hungary_relations#After_World_War_II Austrians and Hungarians living near the border felt the isolation far more intimately than most places]] (except for, obviously, Germany). As well, Austrian and Hungarian officials symbolically cut the barbed wire of the Curtain to signal the end of the Cold War. Cue the tearful reunion.

[[WMG: Prussia and Austria's rivalry has to do with their geography.]]
Simply put, both claim to be the "East" German realm. Austria is literally "''Österreich''", meaning "Eastern Realm". Meanwhile, Prussia is basically the personification of the German "push east" in which they tried to colonize Eastern Europe by force. For the longest time, it was his entire ''raison d'ètre''. He even calls his brother Ludwig "West". Most of their rivalry is thus centred on the fact that [[ThereCanBeOnlyOne there can't be TWO East Germanys]]. After WWII, Austria thought that he had finally won, since it seemed that "Prussia" had died. Oh, how he must have fainted in shock upon seeing Gilbert stroll into that World Meeting sporting the name "German Democratic Republic", and even being recognized in common parlance as "East Germany". The horror!

Upon reunification, Gilbert lost the "GDR" title, but likely continued to be "East" due to cultural and geographic reasons. And now, Austria wonders if he'll ever be rid of him...

[[WMG: Romano knows more about what the nation-tans bosses do than the others]]Working on the assumption that the nation-tans aren't told about everything their bosses get up to (which I think we'd all like to believe, considering the nation-tans aren't complete monsters), basically exactly what it says. Romano is aware of what's going on with the human governments. This is why he hates Germany and Japan so much and doesn't want Italy hanging round with them. His being as useless as his brother when it comes to fighting could be deliberate, because 1: he doesn't want to win, and 2: he's hoping it will make Germany decide being allied with Italy is too much trouble. And his taunting Italy that Germany and Japan don't like him is kind of obvious.\\
A reason why Romano could have picked up on more could be that the bosses restrict how much access they're allowed to human media. With Italy having two nation-tans and N.Italy apparantly being their representative Romano may sometimes get forgotten about and be able to sneak looks at what's going on in the world.\\
Romano doesn't want to leave his brother alone with Germany and Japan, so he sticks around, even though he doesn't want to. Eventually, however, he decides he can't support them any longer, even if it does mean leaving Italy, which is why the allies were able to get Southern Italy first.

[[WMG: Similar to a previous guess: As France's genes were stronger than England's (in America's birth), ''Germany's'' genes were stronger than France's in the case of Cameroon.]]
Cameroon was once a German colony, but later a French one. In Hetalia-speak, you could say that while he was young, Cameroon was harshly raised by Germany. And if you take a look side-by-side, you could say that Cameroon looks almost like a black Germany.

[[WMG: Austria and Monaco are in-universe genderbends of each other.]]
They act very alike (harsh and uptight) and I'm pretty sure Austria is rather intelligent like Monaco is. And before Himaruya made her blond and blue-eyed (when she had brown hair and brown eyes) she looked very much like him.

Also it would be awesome.
* {{Jossed}}. Fem!Austria doesn't wear glasses.

[[WMG: Poland tried to bring the other Eastern European nations to his own territory after World War I to act as buffer to both Germany and Russia.]]
* I can see the history behind this one, since Poland did have pieces of what became Ukrainian and Belorussian territory. However, it seems more likely that he took over pieces of their territory to act as a buffer against all of them, rather than try to start a new empire (the last time he tried, he ended up losing Lithuania to Russia, followed by losing his own independence).
** History would disagree with you, after the Great War, Poland wanted to rebuild the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which would attack Russia (Germany wasn't seen as a threat after WWI), but Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus didn't want any part of it.

[[WMG: Hungary is a FTM {{Transsexual}} living as a woman]]
.. Or she's just transgender, gender queer maybe.
* Well, she was originally supposed to be a guy, I think. Poland was gonna be a girl, but instead he was made into a crossdresser. So anything's possible.

[[WMG: [[http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6743/s640x480ud.jpg New Zealand]] is female]]
That's too feminine, even for the {{Bishonen}} loving Hetalia.
* I agree that they look more female than male. I hope they are, because Hetalia needs more girls.
* Also, New Zealand was the first country in the world to allow women to vote. I hope New Zealand's a girl. A kickass one at that.
* Their [[http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/images/hetalia/d/d9/Miniw_1.jpg new]] [[http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/images/hetalia/6/69/NZland.jpg drawings]] is even more ambiguously feminine. But they have no hair-decs, which usually signifies countries as a girl. Maybe the mangaka's breaking the rules?
** Well, Norway is a male and he has a [[http://i.animecrazy.net/norway001.jpg hair-dec]], eh? It could go either way, but this troper is definitely hoping for a female.

[[WMG: Canada was supposed to be a main character from the first episode.]]
We just couldn't see him. You see, thanks to his invisibility effect, we only got to see him when he finally had [[ADayInTheLimelight some strips and episodes that focussed on him]]. To borrow from the Trivia section on Canada's page of the [[TheWikiRule Hetalia Archives]]: "''Canada is one of the Allied Forces during the second world war which would bring the total of Allied powers in the story to six, and is the third strongest Western Power and did contribute much in the war, but being under so much British Influence much of Canada's efforts were considered British efforts, which can be considered a contribution to Canada's invisibility. This could also would explain why Canada isn't often seen amongst the others when the Allies are acting together.''" Canada's RealLife contribution to the War effort was impressive, and is usually recognized more in the modern day, although largely unknown at the time since it was considered part of the British war effort. Thus, Canada was one of the nations at the World Meeting (obviously), had a seat at the Allied meetings (as actually seen in one episode), and likely confronted the Axis on that island multiple times along with the rest of the Allies. [[FridgeBrilliance He was simply so meek and invisible that neither the other characters nor the audience saw or noticed him]].
* Canada's accomplishments were considered British because the nation was a commonwealth at the time. This status makes him on par with countries like Australia and South Africa, who also don't get much more than a nod despite their efforts. In Hetalia terms, I'd say Canada probably rarely (if ever) was allowed to attend those meetings, and he was instructed later by UK. When he managed to get in, he probably had no option but to keep his mouth shut (which we see). That he fought in attacks isn't unlikely, but they would still be British efforts because he was British.
** Also, the idea of 'they show up, therefore they are main characters' kind of makes RedShirts main characters, too.
*** Well, this ''is'' [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters Hetalia]], the line between "Main Character" and "RedShirt" can get pretty blurry. The argument was really that Canada being under British rule for much of its history (note: this is just me being pedantic, but Canada was a "Dominion", part of the British Empire - later the "Commonwealth") and later with American influence taking its place, which is why he was so meek and thus overlooked at the meetings. England never told him not to talk, he just couldn't see him at all, just like the rest of the characters couldn't see him.
**** Despite the large cast, the 8 main characters have always been well defined. I think, considering Canada's role in the series and his invisibility through history, 'minor character' is a very fitting term.
*** The theory might not be so much that "Canada shows up, therefore he's a main character", so much as "Canada ''may'' have been a main character", but we just never saw him due to his invisibility, and was thus shunted down to RedShirt status. It's basically a play on the concept that for all the ''many'' countries that played important parts in WWII, only 8 are recognized as the "main players". It's a joke with the punch line "Canada represents everybody else!". Oddly enough, Canada [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hetalia:_Axis_Powers_characters#Canada is included as one of the allies]] on the Hetalia character page on TheOtherWiki. It makes more sense to say that he's considered one of the Allies, but only as a SixthRanger with very little focus.

[[WMG: Belgium actually represents only one region.]]
* Although she's indeed supposed to be representative of both regions of Belgium, she was actually merely representing the Walloons, since her official language back then was merely French.
* Or, she only represents Flanders, as she is described as Holland's sister

[[WMG: Belgium is developing a split personality]]
* While she used to be a lot more united due to Catholicism acting as a common focus for the country and the Francophones suppressing the Dutch-speakers, since the decline of religion and the resurgence of Flemish as a language she's feeling [[IncrediblyLamePun in two minds about everything]]

[[WMG: Vietnam will appear in volume 4]]
And She'll smack America/France with her paddle
** [[http://hetalia.livejournal.com/11140642.html Confirmed]] besides the smacking of America/France with her paddle.

[[WMG: Monaco DrivesLikeCrazy]]
And adores others that do so; hence [[FormulaOne the Monaco Grand Prix]]

[[WMG: Why Belarus might hate Lithuania]]
It's been said that she has been hurting Lithuania long since he became Russia's subordinate. Back when Lithuania was powerful, the states that would later become Belarus were conquered and became Lithuanian territory. In-universe, this could be the equivalent of him forcibly taking her from her siblings. It was only centuries later, in 1795 that she was able to return home when Poland was partitioned. Spending such a long time away from family must have been unbearable. The fact that Russia seems to favour Lithuania over her would make it even worse. The above could also explain why she is so desperate to marry Russia: because he is strong, she wants security and she never wants to be separated from him again.

[[WMG: Windows is a ShipperOnDeck for Belarus/Ukraine and wants you to hop aboard.]]
[[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/WINDOWS_IS_A_SHIPPER_9700.png Proof.]]

[[WMG: Hungary and Romania are twins]]

[[WMG: Russia and Belarus will eventually get married/engaged, no matter how incestuous that is]]
Because, you know, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Russia_and_Belarus Union State of Russia and Belarus]], anyone?

[[WMG: Canada looks so much like America because of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalists#Historical_loyalism The]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Empire_Loyalist Loyalists]].]]

He used to look a lot more like France, but the advent of the Loyalists borne from the Revolution caused Canada to transform from a predominantly French-based colony to several English and French ones. This is also the reason why Canada didn't gain too many features from England or his siblings: the majority of those Loyalists saw themselves as British North Americans, and thus Matthew took on an appearance similar to colonial Alfred. Perhaps the only exception to that is Canada's reddish blond hair in his original artwork, which could have been gained from Ireland or Scotland. The fact that so many Loyalists were American-based was part of the reason why the Americans thought that the 1812 War would be a cakewalk; it makes sense that it would also cause other countries to mistake the lesser-known brother for the more famous one.
* Canada is the fourteenth colony. They were actually invited to the Continental Congress in 1775, but they declined, along with Georgia. Georgia had a change of heart and came to the Second Continental Congress in 1776; Canada didn't.

[[WMG: Canada is [[SoulEater Crona]] ]]
and Kumajiro is Ragnarok but think about it both are shy, have parental issues and have sarcastic side kicks who bully them. All Canada needs to do is start murdering people and taking their souls for the sake of impressing his mother and honestly is it really that far fetched? Everyone keeps saying Canada will snap one day Crona is pretty much what Canada would act like once he's snapped.
* I think Russia is Crona. We've already seen that russia used to be a [[TheWoobie woobie]], and he was bullied by General Winter when he was younger, and then he snapped and became violent during the bloody saturday event.

[[WMG: Poland cross-dresses due to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth]]
When leaders met in 1565 to form the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Lublin Union of Lublin]], the king of Poland and the Grand Duke of Lithuania [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismund_II_Augustus Sigismund II Augustus]] decided it would be best to [[DisguisedInDrag disguise]] the personification of Poland. This way, Lithuania and Poland could legally marry each other due to [[ValuesDissonance values dissonance.]] Due to this marriage set up, Poland gained a newfound fetish for stylish woman's clothing and still explores it to this day in the manga and anime.

[[WMG: All will become one with Greece.]]
All the neko-tans are part of the Greek Army. One day, Greece will wake up and decide to take over the world. Starting with Turkey.

[[WMG: Lithuania developed a crush on Belarus when he saw her smile.]]

[[WMG: New Zealand is a girl pretending to be a boy.]]
I'm not sure why this theory appeals to me so much but it does. I personally think New Zealand looks more feminine, but the issue is that unlike every girl in Hetalia, they don't have hair decs, which indicates boy. Or that they want people to think they're a boy. Also explains the ShrugOfGod on the issue; Himaruya isn't going to lie to his readers, but he doesn't want to ruin the joke before it gets started.\\
I also like to imagine that only England and Australia know her real gender. England doesn't realise that no-one else does, and doesn't understand why they mock him for putting her in dresses as a child, and Australia is just having a massive laugh at everyone's expense.

[[WMG: Poland isn't actually that girly.]]
Especially considering how a crossdresser would likely be treated in RL Poland, he's just trying to mess with the other countries.

[[WMG:Belgium is France's half sister.]]

[[WMG:There is a character named Black America who is Alfred's longtime girlfriend/wife.]]
America is known for its large black population and it wouldn't be much of a stretch she could exist.She would evoke many African American stereotypes espically those of Black women.B.A. would be loud,matronly,be very religious,an excellent cook,conservative,obsession with her African roots,have a bit of a temper problem,and have a love for soul food and grape soda.I think she was born from the amount of African slaves coming to America from West Africa.I can even picture her being the mother of the original thirteen states.She was bought by England as a slave to work for America and to keep him company.B.A. and America would have grown close together to the point of harboring romantic feelings for one another though she still would resent being a slave.No, America would not have forced himself on her but have a secret mutual,quasi-romantic relationship with her but couldn't marry her until 1967 when interracial marriage was made legal.B.A. I have a feeling would always be tempted to runoff with other nations like France and Russia because she felt that she wasn't being fairly treated enough by America.She then would for some strange reason always comeback to Alfred for some strange reason.I think she would have had an active role in the Underground Railroad and greatly participate in the Civil Rights Movements.Heck, I believe she would have been a spy for the Union in the civil war.I think America and B.A. these days have a loving relationship but the past still puts a strain on them.However,Alfred these days does his best treat her like the first lady she is.

[[WMG: Hungary is a distant relative of Estonia and Finland.]]
Originally, there was the Finno-Ugric peoples. Some of them split away and travelled south, arriving in modern Hungary while the others stayed and would become the modern Finnish and Estonians. Over time the people living in Hungary mixed with other groups such as the Magyars, creating a seemingly unrelated nation.

[[WMG: Romano controls the mafia]]
* {{Jossed}}. There was an economic map drawn of modern Europe, and when it came to Romano he was sick and seemingly injured because of what the mafia was doing to him. In Hetalia terms, they're probably equivalent to bullies who beat him up for his lunch money every day. Bullies with guns.
** They were shown once, when Romano was trying to make Spain better. They tried to make him do what they wanted, which is apparently how it usually is. On that occasion though, he was determined enough to beat them.

[[WMG: Hungary's human name really is Erzebet.]]
Or, it was. Elizaveta is a Russian variant of the English name Elizabeth. It's possible before the Austro-Hungarian compromise her people called her Erzebet. Prussia and Austria call[ed] her Elisabet or some other German cognate. And while it was never part of the Soviet Union, it was still a satellite state, so perhaps Russia started calling her Elizaveta. And it stuck.

[[WMG: Latvia is Lithuania's nephew.]]
Himaruya has said that the Baltic States aren't brothers. It makes sense that Estonia isn't related to Lithuania and Latvia, as Estonia is Baltic geographically, but Finnic in terms of language, culture, etc. However, Latvia should be related to Lithuania in some way, as Latvian is a Baltic language. Latvia may not be Lithuania's brother, but he could definitely be Lithuania's nephew.

The state of Latvia did not officially exist until the fall of the Soviet Union, though it started to be known as a region in the 18th-19th century, which would fit with Lativa being so young. Before the area that is present-day Latvia came under the control of other nations, it was home to four different Baltic tribes: the Curonians (Courland), the Latgalians (Latgalia), the Semigallians (Semigallia), and the Selonians (Selonia). Their languages eventually died out (though its debatable if Latgalian did, as there is a "dialect" of Latvian called Latgalian that is similar to old Latgalian), and the lands they inhabited make up four of the five cultural regions of Latvia (the fifth is Livonia, land of the Livs, a Finnic tribe).

Latvia is the son of one of these extinct Baltic states, likely Latgalia.

[[WMG: Canada has been shipping USUK since 1854.]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_triangle For his own well-being.]]
* I don't know... Canada tended to get furious whenever Britain chose America over him.

[[WMG:Canada and Ukraine have a long-term romantic relationship with each other.]]
The two countries both have a long history together.Many Ukrainian immigrants have come to Canada.The Canadian province Saskatchewan was made because of the influx of Ukrainian immigrants.In the Hetalia world Canada and Ukraine might actually have a child together.This makes Canada one lucky guy.
* Alberta having been created on the same day as Saskatchewan would be one of Ukraine and Canada's twins and well Manitoba has loads of Ukrainians too. Perhaps the prairie provinces are all their children?

[[WMG: In light of the recent earthquake Japan had experienced, Fukushima and Miyagi will be the first Japanese prefectures to be featured in the manga.]]
* As well as one of the Japanese feudal clans.
** He's not posting clans, but he already has put feudal domains into the comic.

[[WMG: Belarus is Lady Gaga.]]
* They both have long platinum blond hair
* They're both 'strange girls'
* They're both somewhat creepy
** So, uh, what about Lady Gaga's ex ''Matthew Williams''?
* Belarus x Canada?

[[WMG: Australia is a ''bad'' WellDoneSonGuy or StalkerWithACrush to England.]]
Historically, it would be pretty accurate. Early Australia as the country it was (I'm basically thinking Federation to WW2, even though Australia-tan would most likely have existed before that) was still ''very'' much obsessed with it's Britishness, and under British control. The only reason wee really federated in the first place was because of White Australia's fear of the influx of migrants (particularly the Chinese) thanks to the Gold Rush, so Australia became a country so we could have an immigration policy. Stuff like the White Australia policy was largely about staying the white, ''British'' colony we were founded as, one of our Prime Ministers justifying the policy as essential to "Australia remaining the integral southern outpost of the British Empire," or something like that. We never actually declared war in WW1, 'cause it was assumed we'd be at war just because England was. Another one of our Prime Ministers said "Australians are British to their bootstraps". When the Balfour Declaration was made in the early thirties, declaring all of their dominions autonomous and such - including Australia - Australia actually ''resisted'', and refused to ratify the treaty until 1942. That was after Darwin had been bombed, Britain had a lot of our troops and refused to give them back, pissing Australia off and pretty much ending the crush. But I can see Australia-tan following England around to almost Belarus-levels, switching between "TAKE CARE OF ME I NEED YOU DON'T EVER LEAVE", "LET ME DO THAT FOR YOU BECAUSE I LOVE YOU AND WANT TO BE A GOOD DOMINION", and some kind of [[SingleWhiteFemale Single White Nation-tan]] [[BuffySpeak thing]]. England would probably originally be flattered by Australia's attention/devotion, but eventually be a bit like "um, you can... be a little more independent now, okay? I don't mind." And Australia's like "No. *glomp*"
** I always imagined England wouldn't have been a great parent to Australia, after his experience with America, so I can see Australia developing a bit of an inferiority complex and feeling a need to prove what a good little brother he is, which could evolve into an obsession. Since Australians are probably the people most likely to get a warm welcome by Brits, England probably decided he'd take whatever affection he could get.
** I think Australia will be a devoted little brother who loves to tease England. Because honestly English tourists are hilarious, their ascents and how they buy stuff with Australian flags on it. In cricket (and anything else were its Auzzie's v the Pomms) it only matters if we beat the English, ever heard of the Ashes? What I wanna see is Australia's relations with America. Because in the post-WW2 era Australia was influenced most by the Americans. I can just see Australia in the anime deciding that England had fucked him over one time too many and realized how cool America is, and started following and copying America instead. (cant you imagine England wondering what happened to his little shadow?)
** You guys do realize that Australia was just allying himself with the major power at the time, right? We worked out that if there actually was an attack on us, Britain would probably not be strong enough to help. So Australia became America's 'sidekick' in hopes of protection. Something I wonder about is our Canada relationship - I'm hoping Australia can see Canada, but that would be ruining the Canada effect now wouldn't it? However, I think the only reason Australia tried to be 'British' was because England was sorta his only/main nation role model.

[[WMG: If there's a direct sequel to ''Paint it White,'' the antagonists would be...]]
Switzerland and Liechtenstein. Especially since [[spoiler: they were pretty much the only Nations apart from Iceland that got away from the AlienInvasion practically unharmed]]. And with the G8 basically weakened and the world in turmoil (with a few billion less people around), would it be surprising if the Alpine siblings decide to go on a campaign of global conquest?
** What about the non-UN member nations? It would be hilarious if Taiwan was the one leading them.
** I wouldn't be surprised if Iceland joined the siblings. Then again, they were literally having some intimate picnic time while just about ''everything'' around them was going to Hell and back.

[[WMG: Zealand's gender will get confirmed eventually, after being a RunningGag.]]
I can see some strip stating their gender somehow. "Running Gag" as in maybe the other nations are confused, they refer to NZ by different things, and Zealand doesn't state their gender.

[[WMG: Lithuania is the winner of Eurovision.]]
[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/AxisPowersHetalia?action=edit#Link]]

[[WMG: Spain named Canada]]
One of the theories about where Canada got its name talks about Spanish explorers looking for gold. They listed it as ''acá nada'', or ''cá nada'', meaning 'nothing here'.
* Desperate for attention, Canada clung to the closest thing to a name he'd ever received.

[[WMG: Male!Ukraine is [[HeroicBuild built like a tank]] and/or [[GagPenis well-endowed himself.]]]]
Ukraine has...prominently feminine traits, so it would make sense for him to be incredibly masculine. Plus, with the former, it would make a good contrast with [[BigBeautifulMan Russia]] and [[{{Bishonen}} Male!Belarus.]]

[[WMG: Ukraine has Avoidant Personality Disorder]]
Think about it. She's terrified of disappointing her boss, and she doesn't want Russia to think badly of her. She is said to be a crybaby, and those with AvPD tend to react to criticism by blushing or crying.
** On that note, maybe Poland does as well. He may be confident and troublesome with those he knows and trusts, but he's painfully shy otherwise and scared of new people.

[[WMG: Korean Spirit = Korean Soul = Seoul]]
Am I really the only one who thought this? Really?
* [[http://www.hetarchive.net/scanlations/files/cazzo2.gif I do believe that's canon.]]

[[WMG: Sealand is the next Canada]]
Nobody knows he exists except Japan, England, Iceland, and Wy. That's ''now''. In a few hundred years, ''nobody'' will know he exists, except maybe England. After he sinks in the ocean (you know it will happen) he'll start sneaking into Canada's house and sleeping there. Canada never notices, though. He will eventually pick up Canada's randomly fading away. Before you know it, he will ''be'' Canada, hair and everything.

[[WMG: Thailand crossdresses in his spare time]]
* Actually, he use that as disguise to find hidden information and unlike other, his {{Ukefikation}} fandom tend to be a facade cause he unleash his badass a lot.
** *person who suggested this WMG* Actually, I based that off the concept of kathoey, which is what Thailand tends to be (stereotypically) associated with. It's not ukefication (femme =/= submissive), and he would still very much keep his BewareTheNiceOnes quotient, he'd just like to dress as a [[[[Bishoujo pretty girl}} for fun and fanservice.
*** Not everybody think that it's fun, plus, it may be more like {{Fandisservice}}.

[[WMG: When Thailand is at home, his personality switch to sadist and kinky]]
* He would smile, kind and be gentleman when he's outside but when he is at home, is pretty sadistic person.
* ''Possessing porn for personal use is not illegal''

[[WMG: Thailand has FoeYay with Burma and Cambodia]]

[[WMG: Sweden is Russia's father]]
From my understanding, Russia was founded by the Rus people in around the Viking era, who relocated there from Sweden, establishing the cities that would later turn into Russia and giving their name to the land ("Land of the Rus" = "Russia). Fanon seems to have the Viking era!Nordics being the same tans as the modern ones, and as far as I remember it was our Finland and Sweden discovering America in Viking era. So it makes sense for Sweden to found Russia. There's no real proof to them being blood related, but it's possible. If not father and son, they are probably related through some kind of way (eg. via the Kievan Rus or some kind of Viking-tan), or once said they were (like England and America).

[[WMG: Romania is a vampire]]
Specifically a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strigoi Strigoi]]. It explains the red eyes and CuteLittleFangs. Alternatively, he is the in-universe inspiration for them seeing as how he is effectively immortal (just like all the other tans) and apparently uses BlackMagic.

[[WMG:Romano is CampStraight]]
* But he isn't camp.
* What I meant to say is that, although he's had HoYay and is tsundere around Spain, he's only into women.
** YourMilageMayVary on that one.

[[WMG:Romano represents Sicily, and that is why he is still around.]]
Historically, "Southern Italy" was essentially Sicily, Naples, and eventuallt the Kingdom of Two Sicilys, and it's still an autonomous region with a distinct language and culture. It's also the place most strongly associated with TheMafia.

[[WMG:Turkey is the future [[Warhammer40000 Imperium of Man.]] And probably the God Emperor, too. ]]
It's mentioned that the God Emperor of Mankind was born in Anatolia, where Turkey would later emerge. So maybe Turkey got on his good side at some point, over time assuming different identities until he became known as the Imperium.

But by the 41st Millennium, however, the notions of personified countries would likely be viewed by the Inquisition as heresy. So he may have taken on various roles in the Imperial Guard, conveniently "dying" should people start suspecting him. It also wouldn't help that he would also be the LastOfHisKind, assuming that China's still lurking somewhere...

[[WMG: Romano's temper represents Mt. Etna.]]

[[WMG: Hungary is related to [[FullmetalAlchemist Riza Hawkeye]].]]
* Both are scarily proficient in their weapon of choice, and just as scarily quick to use it (Hungary's frying pan, Hawkeye's gun).
* Both are extremely loyal to a male direct superior (Austria and Roy Mustang respectively).
* And look at the names: RIZA Hawkeye, eLIZAveta Hedervary.
** [[JapaneseRanguage Note that the /l/ and /r/ sounds are interchangeable in Japanese; Hawkeye's first name is sometimes spelled "Liza" or "Lisa" in the manga.]]
* The only problem: Hawkeye wouldn't be too happy about Roy/Ed.
* And no one brings up the fact that they had the same [[MichikoNeya seiyuu]]?
* Or that both of them look hot in ''and'' out of uniform?

[[WMG: New Zealand is the {{Transsexual}}, or transgendered, one]]
I'm going for Bigender, androgyne, or FtM but anything goes.

[[WMG: Romano ships China and England]]
* His [[VerbalTic verbal tic]] "chigi" sounds like is could be a [[PortmanteauCoupleName ship name]] for China and Iggy/Igirisu.

[[WMG: In ''[[TheMovie Paint it White]],'' Switzerland and Liechtenstein were spared the AlienInvasion for more than just Permanent Neutrality.]]
Setting aside the odds that a race of alien invaders would be aware of Earth-based politics, there's good reason to suspect that the Alpine siblings' seemingly inexplicable escape from the Pict's hijinks had something to do with [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN CERN's]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider Large Hadron Collider]] being in Swiss territory. That, and maybe the fact that the Alps are [[CrazyPrepared honeycombed with bunkers and armed strongholds]] designed to fend off just about ''anything.'' This could also tie to an earlier WMG suggesting that the two ''could'' become the new antagonists in a direct sequel to the movie, given that they'd be more than able to take on a world just weakened by the Pict...

[[WMG: India is actually a {{bifauxnen}}]]
Himaruya did say India is similar to Hungary, the manliest character in Hetalia.
* I thought they might be similar in that both of them are known for having spicy cuisine?

[[WMG: Liechtenstein is into [[GothicMetal gothic metal]]]]
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elis_%28band%29 See]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlSfVtu1Pvk here.]]

[[WMG: HRE became Schroder from {{Peanuts}}]]
They do share physical similarities, and Schroder is obsessed with German/Holy Roman Empire music (namely Beethoven). It could easily be that after his supposed "death," HRE was actually just in a comatose state for many years and eventually awoke in a town at America's house. He didn't age or grow, because the fall of the nation he represented stunted his growth. So he eternally is trapped as a young boy in a town along side Charlie Brown and Snoopy, lamenting over his separation from Italy by playing piano and attempting to replace Italy's place in his heart with Beethoven. The reason he refuses Lucy's feelings is because some part of him still thinks he'll be able to find Italy again.

[[WMG: Canada in the CodeGeass Universe is actually the Holy Britannian Empire.]]
The Holy Britannian Empire and Canada are both founded by British Loyalists in North America.
* Except that Canada was not ''founded'' by Loyalists at all. It was the refuge they went to when America broke away, but they didn't start it. It had been around for a while - Britain took the already-established colony from France initially.

[[WMG: Ladonia is a Pokemon fanboy.]]
We've seen that his laptop is covered in Pokemon stickers, most noticeably Pikachu and what appears to be Woobat. Plus, he was playing a Pokemon game on a Gameboy (hard core gamer, much?) and introduced himself to Denmark by saying, [[MemeticMutation "I'm the internet country Ladonia! My favorite Pokemon is Stunfisk!"]]
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[[folder: Other Characters]]
!Other Characters
WMG regarding the [[AxisPowersHetalia/ThoseWhoDoNotSeemToFitAnywhere official non-nation characters]] goes here.

[[WMG: Tony is the Nation-tan of an alien planet.]]
No need to explain this one.
* So maybe he's more like a "planet-tan"?
** [[ShapedLikeItself Or the nation-tan of a planetary nation]]?

[[WMG: Tony is Puerto Rico.]]
After all, it's in a weird limbo, a part of the US that feels like an independent country. And this would explain why he lives in America's house.
* Tony is a chupacabra?

[[WMG: America is illegally subletting parts of his home to Tony.]]
[[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic Which means he's an]] [[IncrediblyLamePun illegal alien]].

[[WMG: Kumajiro does know who Canada is; he just likes to mess with him.]]
[[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/1124276.html Proof. "I asked who about someone other than Canada?"]]
* [[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/338610.html More Proof: "You are Canada, find something to show you are Canada."]]

[[WMG: General Winter is an AnthropomorphicPersonification of [[DepartmentofRedundancyDepartment Win]][[CaptainObvious ter.]]]]
Russia apparently made a pact with General Winter as a child, which may be the reason to why the Northern Nations and Siberia are all so cold.
* General Winter is actually another name for Russian Winters, made up by invaders who failed due to the climate. He was known as the "Czar's deadliest soldier".

[[WMG: Germany's unseen boss is {{Adolf Hitler}}]]
It's pretty obvious
* This is Wild Mass Guessing. The "stating the obvious" entry is [[CaptainObvious this way]].

[[WMG: Alternatively, Germany's unseen boss is [[TheGreatDictator Adenoid Hynkel]].]]
With Hetalia having elements of PoliticallyCorrectHistory, this would be an interesting twist in what we all thought was the obvious truth.

[[WMG: Hanatamago actually represents the Åland Islands.]]
* Hmm. That's actually semi plausible, although it begs the question of why the Aland Island's nation-tan is a dog.
** It's a ''lot'' better than ending up as someone's glasses or stray bit of hair, and oodles better than being a nipple. (No really... poor Corsica) And also, Hanatamago's cute, isn't she?

[[WMG:Kumajiro represents the Northwest Territories.]]
Or, alternatively, "Northern Canada" as a whole. Kumajiro is a polar bear, which is known to live in Canada's Northern territories, and the reason he's so small despite his species is due to the lack of development up north.
** Additionally, maybe his role as a pet is symbolic of how dependent the northern populations are upon their southern brethren.
*** And his constant presence around Canada could represent how Canadians are never really that far from the Frontier/the North. It could also represent how Southern Canada is just as dependent on the North's resources as the North is dependent on the South's infrastructure, economy, and population. It's a symbiotic relationship, but one that neither recognizes, either because Canadians don't see it as important, or they don't know enough about it (trust me, this is true for many Northern and Southern Canadians when asked about the other parts of the country). That's why Canada and Kumajiro can never get each other's names down! (who?) Or, they could just be messing with each other, as stated above.

[[WMG: When the kappa said goodbye to England and left Japan's house, it went to [[VideoGame/{{Touhou}} Gensokyo]].]]
* Because that's the only place it'd be able to live happily. Maybe the little girl was Reimu.
** And the Tengu he was waving at was Aya. ... Quick! Somebody! Crossover fic!

[[WMG: Prussia's little bird actually represents the Prussian coat of arms.]]
See also the guess above this one. Not only will Prussia live on, but he's got the flag-tan to prove it!
** That has broader implications you have to address, though. A: Where are the other flag-tans? And B: The Nation-Tan is a representation of a culture; so people associate themselves with it. The people who associate(d) themselves with the Prussian flag/coat of arms considered themselves Prussian, and not what I suppose would be called flagian. How can one exist if nobody associates with it?
*** While this WMG is probably wrong, it has caused this troper to keep thinking of the eagle on Prussia's flag as Gilbird, whether they want to or not.

[[WMG: ALL the tans are actually an Alien species - Tony is their momma]]
It's an alien species that's somewhere between symbiote and a parasite lays eggs on planets with the potential for sentient life, usually tucking caches of the eggs in areas particularly liking to foster civilizations judging by the locations of the most evolve species. These eggs can lay dormant for millennia. When the cohesive thoughts and emotions of a people reach the eggs, the one at the top of the grouping will enter a stage of activity, using the thoughts and emotions to create a beings that can walk among the sentient beings above as one of their own. The alien-being, however, gains sustenance and near-immortality as long as the culture that created them flourishes, even if daily sustenance can also be gained by eating edibles. (Also, due to the sentient species on their planet talking longer than expected to reach North America, only two eggs were viable - Canada and America. The Aliens realized their miscalculation in time to lay new broods in South America, though) Eventually, Humans and the "countries" will realize around when the sentient species develops Interstellar travel capabilities, and the "countries" will hit the True Puberty of their species. (Also, Tony is their mother/guardian/caretaker of the hatched on the planet.) Canada and America, due to how late they were born have some physical issues, to say the least. They went through cycles of adult forms and child forms, at least until they had the stabilizing influences of others of their species (And the Mythological Twins in North America were based on them and the legends spread like wildfire, LOL). America actually has more issues than Canada, thus why Tony sticks so close to him. The physical forms they took on at their birth don't always match their true genders - thus, Hungary growing up thinking she'd be a he is actually true.
* This would also explain Poland. Poles have a view of their nation as being female (much like other "motherland" concepts), and so the male Feliks became a crossdresser in order to be truer to what his "true gender" should be. The question is, does America know the truth about the nation-tans, or does he just see Tony as a benefactor who has an interest in helping him? Perhaps the reason America and Canada were able to grow so fast was because England and France (having already gown up) helped them "speed along the process". Now Tony is paying attention to them due to any unforseen consequences of this prodigious growth...
* The need for culture could potentially be [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Power]]. The presence of the Anti-Spiral shifted the nation-tans relationship from Parasites to Symbiotes. Furthermore, they didn't start looking human until after they were exposed to a certain amount of Spiral Power and grow emotionally closer to humans the more they were exposed.

[[WMG: Tony is the nation-tan of the moon.]]
He lives at America's house because America planted a flag on the moon. Tony is an amalgamation of the moon landing, pulp sci-fi fiction, and the tradition of planting a flag on land you claim for your country. He's not human because there are no human settlements on the moon (yet).
* If he came because of the moon landing, he shouldn't have shown up for 14 years after he befriended America.
* There are a lot of theories that Tony is a Tan, but it's probably more likely he stands for nothing more than the beliefs of the culture in the same ways that England/Japan's various creatures do.
* Would actually make a pretty funny plot point if Chile appeared, since a chilean man bought the moon in the late 80s(no, [[http://www.lunarregistry.com/info/embassy.shtml SERIOUSLY]]), and even tough the UN declared the moon not to have any owners, chilean people still defend that they own the moon, to the point of [[MemeticMutation Memetic Mutation]]

[[WMG: China's dragon boss is the representation of the Communist Party.]]
The staff could not portray the communist leaders for fear of provoking the Chinese.
* Shouldn't it be the exact opposite? The Chinese Dragon was actually a sort of mascot for China, ''until'' the Communists took over and destroyed as much traditional Chinese culture as they could find. I always sort of thought the Dragon boss represented the spirit of Chinese traditions that people still cling to, even in the midst of the world pressure to Westernize.
** It's evidently both. How, you ask? Simple: China's dragon is in fact the representation of ''The Mandate of Heaven'', that spirit of the traditions of the Chinese people which determines who a rightful "Boss" should be. China is so old, and the Mandate idea established at least 2000 years ago (when China was himself at least 2000 years old), that the sheer amount of China's culture and traditions allowed a separate entity to appear. One who's purpose is to judge the worthiness of China's rulers. Regimes, dynasties, and bosses may come and go, but the Mandate is forever, waiting for the day that the Communists lose the will of heaven (read: The People's belief in their ability to govern) and get replaced by the next regime (whatever it may be), just as the ROC and the Qing Dynasty both lost the Mandate. The above idea that the Communists attempted to destroy it could still be valid, since ideas like the Mandate can run opposite to the Communist ideal of "The End of History", as well as their own desire to modernize China and remove such "outdated" ideas.

[[WMG: Tony is actually Mexico-tan]]
...This may sound a tad [[UnfortunateImplications unfortunate]], but Tony is an [[StealthPun alien]] that lives in America's house. Also, Tony is a common name for Hispanics.
** America refers to Tony and Mexico individually, so this at least is one UnfortunateImplication that doesn't happen in the series.

[[WMG: Russia's boss is trying to kill him.]]
See [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/rsa.html this strip]]
Why would you give the personification of your nation such a dangerous job unless you actually wanted him dead? It is insane, of course, but this is {{Josef Stalin}}, and from what I know, it somehow seems like the kind of thing he would do. Maybe Russia is seen as a sign of the past, not a symbol of the USSR, and Bloody Sunday would hardly have stood him in [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/russ.html in good stead]]. But seeing as this is [[{{Psychopathic Manchild}} Russia]] we're talking about, you wouldn't want it to be too obvious you were trying to murder him, and so he just gives him the most dangerous jobs he can.\\
Alternatively, he's not actively ''trying'' to kill him, he just doesn't care if he dies, for the reasons stated above.

[[WMG: The fat lady who work as a teacher in the Gakuen Hetalia game is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_Union_member_states the African Union]].]]
[[http://i29.tinypic.com/6ofthw.png This lady]]. All the teachers in World Academy are like this, the old man [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations Mr. UN]] (from [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/files/mikan2.gif this]] strip) is the Principal and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization World Trade Organization]] is the school nurse.

[[WMG: [[GagDub Herr Schtick]] is the personification of the [[ThoseWackyNazis German Nazi Party]]]]
It stands to reason that the stick appeared near the end of WorldWarI, since that was when things started going bad for the Germans, leading to the loss of the War, the Versailles Treaty, the Great Depression, and the rise of the Nazis. Hitler becoming Germany's boss was when Herr Schtick made his bid for control of the Reich. Because, as we all know, Germany has a serious [[IncrediblyLamePun stick up his ass]]. Once the War starts to go south for the Axis, Italy will realize that he just wants to be happy with Germany. Since, IRL, the Italians switched sides near the end of the War when Mussolini was basically deposed, Feliciano will, in a rare moment of bravery, [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6174139/1/Herr_Stick get rid of Herr Schtick for good... by setting him up to run away with Flying Mint Bunny]].

[[WMG: Kumajiro is a figment of Canada's imagination.]]
Since poor Canada is always getting ignored, he needed an imaginary friend.
* A common fan theory is that Kumajirou is a teddy bear that Canada has given an [[IJustWantToHaveFriends imaginary personality]]. When/if anyone else notices, they tend to grow a little concerned.
** ''If'' anyone even notices... Alfred and Arthur are the only ones really in any position to do so (in canon), and they tend to forget Canada pretty quickly. Besides, there was a drawing I recall seeing by Himaruya that shows a young colonial Canada and America interacting with Kumajiro.

[[WMG: United Nations is actually Earth, the teachers in Gakuen Hetalia are the continents.]]
[[http://aph.starry-sky.com/files/mikan2.gif I think UN]] looks awfully old to say he's younger than most of the nations. Really, he just represents Earth, but because there's not a lot to do in that role he takes the most appropriate job he can get. As for Gakuen Hetalia, there must be some significance to the nations being in continent classes. An earlier guess was that the African class teacher was the African Union, which would also fit in here; just like Earth, they take appropriate jobs.
** Or alternatively, he used to be the League of Nations. But given how ''that'' turned out, it's likely that his age may have been the result of his rapid slide to incompetence and irrelevance. Looking it that way, taking up the role of the UN could be a sort of "second chance."
** I honestly just assumed, upon first reading the strip, that the old man was just a representative ''from'' the United Nations. Aside from {{Fanon}} (fan theories and a reference to him on the Hetalia Wiki), is there anything that actually confirms that he's a "-tan"?
*** When you put it that way... no. But I like my theory. And if Japanese prefectures get personifications the surely it's not beyond the bounds of belief that the UN - and Earth - should?
**** His name is '''Mr. UN''' and given that '''Mr. Newspaper''' is canon and there's one for every country I don't see why would be so hard for him to be the United Nations.
***** Like I said: when I ''first'' read the strip. Given all the micronations, prefectures, and provinces that have appeared, it doesn't seem the farfetched that the U.N. would have a personification. However, the old guy first appeared, it was long before Himaruya went on his "micronation blitz". That being said, Himaruya could have wanted to have the UN be represented by the old guy all along, and was meaning to make smaller -tans after he had gotten a number of countries out of the way, or Mr. UN has been retconned into a -tan, or [[SureWhyNot Himaruya liked the idea of a UN character and ran with it]]. And where did it say "'''Mr. UN'''"? The strip I read simply had "U.N." floating over a guy that slightly resembled Colonel Sanders? In any case, I did enjoy the theory. And considering how many people seem to think that there is a "Native America" personification, along with possible tribes, it would be downright fitting for the African teacher to represent Africa as a continent.

[[WMG: Tony has a cousin named Paul.]]
There's a movie coming out soon, called ''Paul'', and the tititular alien looks awfully familiar...
* Or, this could be Tony's breakout role as Paul...
** [[CreditsGag Alfred F. Jones as Hero.]]

[[WMG: Australia's Koala is f*cking evil.]]
I know it's been said to death, but [[http://pics.livejournal.com/melcratch/pic/0000852s LOOK AT HIM!]] The damn thing is giving a Nazi salute! It even has it's left arm behind it's back and a nose similar to a toothbrush mustache, like [[EvilOverlord some over-the-top dictator]]. The evil eyes really don't help.
* Maybe it's just a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_bear drop bear.]]

[[WMG: Australia's Koala is TheManBehindTheMan.]]
Likely, he's the personification of the DeathWorld / EverythingTryingToKillYou aspects of Australia. Oz knows not to mess with him, so he just let's the Koala run the place. That's why Australia also appears to be giving the Nazi Salute; the Koala must be coercing him somehow. The rest of the world is just relieved that they don't have to share a landmass with him.

[[WMG: Australia's Koala is like Sweden.]]
It looks terrifying but, really, it just wants to cuddle -- hence why Australia is so willing to carry it around. He's knows it's secretly a marshmallow inside.
* Not sure man, in RealLife [[KillerRabbit koalas are pretty vicious animals.]]
** So are [[{{UsefulNotes/Denmark}} the Swedes]].

[[WMG: Mochimerica was the one who took the embarrassing pictures.]]
We saw him when he took the one with Iggimochi, is obvious he's working for France or alternately...

[[WMG: Picardy was the one who took the embarrassing pictures.]]
The pictures are from the ''April Fool's Aftermath'' Game and we will see them when Himaruya releases the whole game.
* Confirmed! Well, that he took the pictures, that is.

[[WMG: Tony is the nation-tan of Brazil.]]
Because it'd be [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varginha_UFO_incident hillarious]] if it was real.

[[WMG: Australia's Koala is a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropbear Dropbear]].]]
Just a thought, considering how evil it looks as discussed by an above WMG.

[[WMG: A nation's pet will live as long as the nation does.]]
Think about it. These nations have had their pets for a long time. We see [[FanNickname Gilbird]] delivering a letter to Austria and Maria Theresa regarding the invasion of Silesia, and then we see him again in the present. Tony, America's alien friend, has been around since Roswell in the 1940s. My theory is that, once a nation picks its companion, a special bond is made, and that pet/friend/whatever will remain with the nation for as long as the nation lives. So, if Prussia were to suddenly disappear, Gilbird would do the same, as he has already far exceeded a bird's normal life span (if he had been a baby bird during Maria Theresa's rule, he'd be 400-something or 500-something years old today).

[[WMG: All the Mochis have special filling inside them.]]
Well, they're [[CaptainObvious mochis]], and usually mochi has fillings inside. Them, being mochis, have filling correspondent with their respective nation's food stereotypes. [[AccidentalNightmareFuel And of course they can be eaten. When eaten, their body dissolves into said filling, making them one big giant food stock of all the nations around the world when they're hungry]]. The fillings are, for example:
* Mochitalia's filling is pasta sauce.
* Mochipan's filling is regular red bean paste.
* Mochimerica's filling is ground meat/bacon/pork.
* Mochigirisu's filling is [[SpotOfTea tea]].
* Mochifuransu's filling is wine.
* Mochicanada's filling is [[CanadaEh maple syrup]].
* Mochirussia's filling is [[VodkaDrunkenski vodka]].
* Blockgermany's filling is beer. That is, if you can chew through its very tough outer body, though.


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[[folder:Hetaliaverse]]

[[WMG: When a Nation-tan is about to disappear, it becomes human.]]

First some canon base: [[WordOfGod Himaruya said]] in one of his notes that [[PerpetualFrowner Germany]] had other siblings (namely Saxony, Bavaria, Holstein, and so on) and that they simply passed the baton to Germany and then either retired, lived on their territories [[HikikoMori without visiting anyone anymore]], or slowly faded away. Thinking about it, it kinda makes sense: when a nation stops existing, either by conquering or political change they lose whatever [[AWizardDidIt magical trait]] they have that makes them age differently. Then they become normal humans and start aging from there. If, for example, England disappeared as a nation at, say, 23 years old (nation-tan age, not actual age of course), he'd then continue aging year by year (next year, he'd be 24) and be now exposed to die by wounds, sickness, old age and everything else that can kill [[{{Muggles}} normal people]].
* That would also explain why Prussia is still around despite technically not existing anymore, he may have actually aged, but being as awesome as he is, it doesn't show.
** This has been kind of my headcanon for a while now. My own reasoning being that in the Chibitalia strips, Rome is shown as an old man after running off with Italy when the empire fell.
* This seems to have been confirmed. In the Micronation event it was said that Nikko Nikko was now a normal Japanese citizen and would grow old like other people; however it did say that it would be harder for bigger countries to "revert back to normal people" (which sort of implies that they were originally human too).

[[WMG: Barjona Bombers and Advance! Kitakou Broadcasting Club are set in the same universe as Gakuen Hetalia.]]

All of the main characters in Himaruya's ealier series also represents certain administrative units (Japan's cities and prefectures) but does it in a less direct way than Hetalia. Therefore, it is possible that this is an extention of the HighSchoolAU, with the focus being Japan's various prefectures. In the main Hetalia universe, the characters shown in those series lack their human names and are direct personifications of the places that they represent. (Yamato is Nara and Miyako is Owari, etc.) The versions of Noto and Yamato appearing in the deleted Christmas strips are the main Hetalia universe versions of them, meaning they are actually Prefecture-tans intruding on a party for Nation-tans. They went unrecognized because Japan was not present at the time.
** Jossed, in the HetaliaBloodbath2010 Himaruya introduced a different Osaka, though Himaruya even {{Lampshade}}d the similarities between him and a character in one of those universes.

[[WMG: The nations are a separate race.]]
* This explains why they seem to age so oddly, and are seen among other people as well. A new one is "born" every time a new nation is, or will soon be, created.

[[WMG: The nation-tans are born from the land itself.]]
* It's not logical (as far as you can consider APH logical) that the nation-tans would have parents in flesh and blood or themselves give birth as this puts up some serious questions:
** What about Nations that would have more than 2 parents? (Example: America being a conglomeration of several colonies)
** The so very plausible Mpreg, anyone?
*** Or if the nations could pull off a momentary sex change (male -> female and back), why is it never mentioned?
** Where are the mothers?
*** The very few girls/women in Hetalia would have to pregnant non-stop if they'd have to be the mothers for all the countries unless we have a few bridges suddenly dropped on us
*** If the mothers are humans, why are they never mentioned? I mean, giving birth to nation should be somehow honoured?
** What about countries whose exact "birthday" isn't known? Not every country has a grandious day of foundation recorded by several documents, many just get somewhere along the line a mention that they have been existing.
** We never see babies, only little kids/chibis that are already walking and talking
* By looking at the nation-tans as incarnations born by the very land they represent as soon as people start to think of it as a separate political-social entity (just imagine them waking up one day laying on the ground somewhere in the middle of their countries, no one else around them and with no recollection of how they came to be or rather "awaken" for the first time like children aorund the ages of 5 do) you get those questions out of the way
** As to why they refer to each other with family relationships: similar land will bear similar people
*** Example: Switzerland and Liechtenstein looking similar as they both were born by the alps, so to speak, and the two Italies look like twins since they represent each one half of the Italian peninsula
** Older nations can, by influencing through culture and occupation, those that live there and thus be "the creators = the father/mother", sometimes even adopting their "creations" as children or grandchildren
*** Example: Greece refers to Ancient Greece as his mother since she occupied the land before him, making her his predecessor and founder of his culture
*** Another example: when America/Alfred was discovered, the nation-tans around him (France, England and ?) tried to find out whom he looked like the most to know by whom he was influenced the most and thus who was his "creator"
** When a nation-tan dies, he/she just gets slowly absorbed back by the land, which would explain the slow fading of the old cultures instead of a sudden death
** The nation-tans cannot be killed by physical means (ever tried to kill earth with a sword?) as there would no wars if they could and they will not age at all or at least not at the same pace as humans as they are rather a combination of land and an idea

[[WMG:Nations can only die if...]] 1) their capital is destroyed, or 2), they collapse
[[WMG: Nation-tans exist.]]
They are just like ordinary citizens; even throughout their immortality and their participation in historical events, nobody singles them out. The only people who know them are other Nation-tans and the leaders of the nations. It's a well-kept secret.
* It also seems that they have varying jobs for different times. Such as Russia having to dig a canal, or America saying something about upgrading his factory parts.
* Other Nation-tans, the leaders of the nations (or rather the government officials of the nations) and ''[[WordOfGod Himaruya]]''.
* If that's the case, then England must be writing songs for [[DragonForce a certain brittish Power Metal Band]]
* And they're all in hiding when not working. Why? [[spoiler: Because all of the {{Fangirl}}s would attack them if they weren't]].

[[WMG: The nation-tans are gods/demi-gods.]]
They're immortal (or something like it), they're present at ANY historical event that requires their participation, no matter how difficult it would be to transport themselves there, and some of their miscellaneous traits can be neatly accounted for (Russia's ability to be nigh-perpetually hammered and still have a functioning liver, for example). Taking a page from ''Literature/AmericanGods'' - pun not intended - they can only die once their nation has stopped exerting major influence over the rest of the world. This explains why Grandpa Rome could age and die after the empire collapsed. The same thing could (conceivably, mind you) happen to Prussia, and probably happened to [[MissingMom Mother Egypt and Mother Greece as well]]. (General Winter, who may be the embodiment of all the ancient Eurasian/Slavic nomads, still exists because of Siberia and its people.)
* I figure something similar, since they seem to just appear once certain conditions are met as in the strip where Finland and Sweden find America (the person). They seem to be intrinsically linked to the condition of their nation and people, getting sick when the economy goes bad, acquiring psychiatric problems when their people suffer (like Russia cracking on Bloody Sunday and going completely insane during the Bolshevik Revolution) and suffer injuries proportional to the scale of battles (China's scar from the Sino-Japanese war). World leaders could conceivably treat them as a 'national barometer', watching their health and interactions for clues on what to do. So it would still fall on the presidents and prime ministers and monarchs to interpret the daily goings on of nigh-immortal spirit people. Stalin was just really, really sadistic. Poor Ivan.
* [[Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians And the next child of the Big Three to reach sixteen will be...Latvia! Or perhaps he's too old, but I'd hate to see Olympus' fate in the hands of Sealand...]]
** xD Latvia's fifteen. We're safe. Well, safeish. Is omniphobic Latvia really better than genki kid Sealand?
*** There's always [[BigBrotherInstinct devoted to Switzerland]] Liechtenstein...
** Alternatively, they're [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_angelic_hierarchy#Principalities_or_Rulers Principalities]].
** Or they're [[AnthropomorphicPersonification Anthropomorphic Personifications]] powered by [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve the power of belief]]. That's why they use so many national stereotypes--who they are is determined by what we humans ''believe'' they're like. When no one's around to believe in them, they die, consigned only to the realm of history.

[[WMG: The series takes place in two different worlds/dimensions/what have you.]]
The characters are shown interacting with citizens and the bosses of their nation, but also in some other random dimension where they don't have to walk hundreds of thousands of miles to, say, interrupt England's embroidery fun. The fact that their houses represent their nation's land, but each nation is also shown in actual places, taking part in historical events, also supports this. In essence, their collective houses are akin to the Mount Olympus of Greek mythology, and our world either works in tandem with this other dimension or is directly affected by the activity there (or vice-versa). This provides a reasonably sane reason for the character's both representing their entire country and acting as a normal human would during an event ([[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/531.html Cleaning Out The Storage]], for example).

[[WMG: Axis Powers Hetalia isn't about the personifications of some countries, but how these countries ''really'' are.]]
They love to joke about their populations as part of their own personality traits, and Japan is one hell of a {{Yandere}}, for causing earthquakes and stuff. The characters that appear are few and more important, since it's a retelling of older times, but it's suggested that everybody else will appear, sooner or later. Oh, and USA wants to screw badly with Iraq, but he's against gay sex. Afghanistan is a girl (Afghanis-tan), and she is still crying for what USA did to her. France is still one hell of a nymphomaniac, and Argentina is so uppity that the only explanation is that he's a {{Tsundere}} with an EmbarrassingFirstName.
* But, then how does Afghanis-tan feel about America's kindhearted-yet-physically identical brother who's helping her rebuild?
** She doesn't notice him, like everyone else.

[[WMG: The Nation-tans all have [[HitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy Babel Fish]] stuffed in their ears.]]
* They seem to be capable of understanding and speaking all languages, and who's to say that Tony doesn't have an unlimited supply...
** So long as Japan doesn't try to salt and eat them all.

[[WMG: One or more characters is a Time Lord.]]
More on the WMG/TimeLord WMG page.

[[WMG: The reason you hardly ever see the Tans for provinces, states, etc. is because...]]
They do exist, but they usually travel around with the personification of their country ala PartyInMyPocket. It's very rare that they separate to do anything.

[[WMG: The World of Hetalia Is About the Same Size as the Planet Pluto.]]
* Same as our world- just smaller. I thought of this because....well, the characters or countries personified, they '''are''' the world: literally. I figured the very "Earth" they stand on should be different in scale.
** The Tans ''are'' their populations, their homes are the land masses. But, by the nature of symbolism, what is symbolizing doesn't have to be the same size as what it symbolizes.

[[WMG: Every Hetalia Nation-Tan Can Speak Fluent Latin. Everyone.]]
* Fans have speculated that the characters speak a universal language that was translated into Japanese: "Hidekazian", or just understandable gibberish. (Or possibly the [[HitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy Babel Fish theory]], see above). I has concluded: Latin. It is the language used with scientific terminology, all around the world. I think it may even justify with Korea, Japan, China, all the rest of the Asean Sensasean, even though their languages don't root from any European- Germanic or Latin- languages. Or maybe...just maybe...[[WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaChick they listened to their hearts]][[WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaChick ...and understood.]]

[[WMG: Marukaite Chikyuu is some sort of magical song that Nation-tans suddenly sing out of nowhere when they turn into a more developed country.]]
In episode 48 the anime, when Austria and Hungary hear Chibitalia (well... practically full grown Italy by then) singing this song, they become concerned about it for no apparent reason and go over to check on him, only to find that he has grown up. His voice even changes. Maybe when moving on to the next stage of... nationhood?... randomly singing this song is one of the symptoms. Singing "Marukaite Chikyuu" intentionally without anything really happening seems like it's exclusive to the ending credits only, and so far that one incident seems to be the only time any of the Nation-tans sing it in the actual storyline. (correct me if I'm wrong though...)
* How would you explain Prussia's version, then? It seems he waited until modern day, namely after he heard Germany's version, before trying his hand at it. By that point, he'd been around near 800 years, had grown to maturity, and had become a few different nations. Considering it's an anime that stands behind the practice of OnlySixFaces, doesn't it stand to reason there would only be one song as well?
** You have a point with Prussia. And you're talking about the different versions of "Marukaite Chikyuu", right? I like to think of it as the fact that when a song is translated into another language the words change around to fit the language better. They may sound like they're all speaking Japanese ''to the viewer'' but they're probably like pokemon: they speak differently but still understand each other.
*** Perhaps I'm tired, I'm not understanding. What exactly does TranslationConvention have to do with the theory presented? I was saying that, if it's sung by all of them when they 'become a nation', why would Prussia seem intrigued by it in modern day (after he'd become many different nations), and only try it after the character who refers to him as an elder brother did it as an adult (long after Germany, as well, had become a nation)? If we take Prussia's official MKC as canon, there would need to be some serious explanation for this theory to work.
** Well, Prussia has been alot of things. Right now, he's east Germany. He has one because everyone else did, and he wanted one. Notice how he doesn't quite know some of the words and how it doesn't follow the patteren the others do? It's because he's not ready to sing it yet. Like you said, he's been a few different nations. And he'll be a few more. In the beginning of his song, he's listening to everyone else's. It seems to me he was thinking "Where the hell am I? I'm more awesome than they are! Where's my song?" and decided to make one. Maybe he has a bunch that have been lost because things changed since then or he learns more and more of the words as it gets closer to modern times.
* I disagree. I think that ''Marukaite Chikyuu'' is just a nation-tan's way of saying "This is who I am, and this is what I stand for." I think it's important that Veneziano sang it when his voice was changing, because that's when he was mature enough to know himself well enough to sing his own version of ''Marukaite Chikyuu.''

[[WMG: Hetalia is a ModelUnitedNations conference that went ''severely'' OffTheRails.]]
The delegates got bored, and things got silly.
* Explain Sealand, then.
** That little brother who sneaks in and tries to join in with his older brother while not-so-subtly demanding they leave already?
* One of the Italies was probably some minor nation like San Marino, before deciding that representing San Marino was totally uncool and declared himself half of Italy. While it'd make more sense for Feliciano to do it, since San Marino is surrounded by North Italy, it'd probably be more in character for Lovino to make the claim.
* Likewise, Gilbert did one of two things: either the same as above, represented some minor nation that is uncool and declared himself Prussia, or (and this is considering the Prussia=EastGermany theory is correct) the Model UN takes place pre-unification, Gilbert represents the GDR (while Ludwig represents the FRG), and he just [[YouFailHistoryForever fails history forever]].
* And yes, it is quite possible that they both just represent the country they're from, since usually there's more than one representative at the UN (and the Model), but hell, if we've got to think of an explanation for certain countries, why not make it fun?

[[WMG: There are -tans for every major political unit]]
We see this in the existence of Sealand-tan, among others. The nation-tans are the leaders of clans of state/province/prefecture -tans. Thus if we were able to take a more detailed look at say America-tan's family, we would find California-tan, New York-tan, Texas-tan, Virginia-tan, Florida-tan, Utah-tan, etc. A lot of the nation-tan's meetings are really discussions on how what their clan's member-tans want to do (like Ontario-tan wants to send oil to Texas-tan and Louisiana-tan for refining), but since the nation-tans are so damn bizarre HilarityEnsues.
* This would make sense, since some [[{{Fanon}} fans]] like to postulate that "nations" are the embodiment of the people's idea of a nation rather than the embodiment of arbitrary lines in the sand. Hence, there could be a Quebec-tan living in Canada's basement, or certain countries without a national identity (such as certain third-world countries) may be portrayed differently than other nations. Of course, America's glasses representing Texas may throw this right out the window...
** Quebec has already been personified, and his very birth and development seems to be something that bothers Canada enough to keep him awake at night.
*** Actually no, that was just a nightmare Canada had.
** Fun Historical Fact: After America peacefully annexed the Republic of Texas, it proceeded to get into a war with Mexico over the rightful ownership of Texas. (Specifically the land between the Rio Grande and the Natchez Rivers.) As a part of peace treaty after the war, America annexed much of the modern day American West. Manifest destiny, the belief that it was America's destiny to manifest itself across the width of North America, or from Sea to Shining Sea, was fulfilled. With that goal out of the way, America started looking to the world at large rather then just what was there on it's doorstep. Therefore, America's geopolitical vision was corrected from shortsighted to average, and without Texas this would not have happened (at least, not in this way or as quickly). That's how I interpret the whole "The Glasses Represent Texas", at any rate.
*** I is in love with the above Troper's mind. Now, I'd love to hear your interpretation of Canada's glasses, since I still haven't figured out their purpose, yet.
**** Canada has the opposite problem. Since Canada retained it's identity as a subject of the British Empire, he was more focused on helping his brothers then himself. After being made an independent country in the Commonwealth as a reward for helping England in WWII (who declared Canada "a fully grown nation" after seeing him, Australia and New Zealand fight like men possessed against the Axis), Canada got glasses as a part of becoming a sovereign nation so that he would start looking after his own affairs. Of course, now instead of being just a part of the Empire, he's overshadowed by America and can quite clearly see that, leading to his particular neurosis. (I wrote the above entry on Texas and this is my best shot at explaining Canada. My regiment (8th CA, TXSG) traces it's lineage back to the battle of San Jacinto, and my company's CO is a history teacher in his civilian life, so military history is a big thing for us. Really opens your eyes after you get over all the HollywoodHistory that ends up being fed to you...)
***** That. Is. Awesome. I was going to just say that Canada's glasses just represented the provinces of Manitoba and Saskatchewan (given to him by Ukraine), but I like your theory ''way'' more.
***** Huh. So America is near-sighted and Canada is far-sighted. Head canon acquired.
*** As Texas once existed as its own independent nation and thus would have a Nation-tan, Texas probably GAVE America those glasses.
**** Maybe he lives in the glasses (absorbed into America), and could theoretically transform back and forth? Perhaps that's how all the territories exist with Nation-tans?
**** "Alright Florida, I have a date tonight."
** Chibi Prussia was supposedly the embodiment of the Teutonic Knights.

[[WMG: A Nation is not only powered by the beliefs of his own culture]]
Rather, if we follow the "each nation is a representation of his people's beliefs" theory, then it's not '''only''' a people's own beliefs that shape the Nation. The concept of the nation is also influenced in part by how others view the country: ''that's'' why the nations are represented by stereotypes! It's because of how others view them that they take on their shape as-seen by other nations! It's also how the relationships between the nations are personified; they're influenced by how the other nation's people see them just as much as they are influenced by their own nation. That's why a country like Canada, with so many citizens who are patriotic and angry over their nation's representation, is still seen as "invisible" to others - it's how the rest of the world sees Canada! Just like how America is represented as having elements of Type-2 EagleLand; whilst many Americans probably wouldn't see themselves that way, others would.\\
In short, each Nation is represented by the beliefs of the world society at the time. Influenced largely by their own nations' beliefs, culture, and viewpoints... but also influenced externally by the stereotypes believed and imprinted on the nation by other cultures and their people. England may not ''see'' himself as anything other than prude, but France is more than willing to point out what other people think of England's sexual achievements. It gives the lyrics to Germany's ImageSong "Einsamkeit (Loneliness)" a tragic angle when you realize how he looks at other nation's stereotypes of him and he comments how the reasons behind his cultural quirks are different from what others guess (''"I may appear stern, but only because I'm straining to laugh"'')... The concept of a "nation" isn't just based on how the people see themselves - it never has been. It has always been influenced, at least in part, by how that nation presents itself to the world, and how they respond to it, whether even the nation is recognized. Humans are affected by how other view us, we in our own ways are influenced by these expectations, so why should nations be any different?
* The [[SouthPark Imaginationland]] entry on the FridgeBrilliance: WesternAnimation page was the influence for this WMG, especially in how they describe the "fictional" Jesus as not being the same as the real portrayal of the person he was IRL - other culture's views of him would be different and seen as fictional compared to Western Christians. Why can't it be the same for Nations?

[[WMG: The Hetaliaverse was a 'dry run' for our world]]
So maybe an unfathomably long time ago, God thought it would be cool to make a world in ways x, y, and z. However, He wasn't sure if He'd end up with a fantastic work of art or a big fat mess, so He decided to crudely model the future history in advance, using a much, much smaller scale than the final product. Hence, the nation-tans came to be and unwittingly forecast an exponentially bigger future. One might even theorize that after the 'tan's deaths or disappearances, they were reincarnated as their real life counterparts.

[[WMG: Who is controlling whom?]]
We've seen both sides of the coin. We've seen nations bowing to the will of their bosses, and we've also seen them acting independently of their bosses (such as the Italian Wars, the War of Austrian Succession, etc...) So who's really pulling the strings? Discuss.
* I always thought of it as the nation-tans being personifications of the countries, so while the leaders technically outrank them anywhere but a democratic republic, the nation-tans are still more powerful. For example, Germany was just going along with "[his] boss" in WWII, with some reservations but not enough to actually outright refuse, in the same way enough of the population of the country went along with things that we still refer to Germany's actions in the war as "Germany's actions in the war". However, one of the Eastern Europe-tans (Russia? I was only able to read part of that arc, and don't remember much of it) joined in on a historically successful revolution against the leader, because in hindsight the leader would be and had been deposed. Think of it as a manager-client relationship. The manager runs everything, but the client can fire (or if firing [[DrunkWithPower doesn't work]], [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized punch out]]) the manager, since the manager's only power is being able to shill the client's talents, and it's easier for the "client" to get a new leader than for the "manager" to take over a new country.
** That makes a lot of sense and seems to fit with canon. Head canon acquired.
** It fits with a theory that I had: basically, since the nations represent the people, the degree of control a boss has over a nation is proportional to the control he/she has over the population. Thus, a democratic country has the Boss serving as a manager who the nation advises as needed, whilst a despotic state has the leader control everyone, nation and people alike. This extends to intelligence work: anything that's not officially acknowledged by the government, or is hidden from the people, is unknown to the nation. Thus, from America's perspective, Area 51 rally doesn't exist, since his boss won't tell him, and so he's confused by that dichotomy, since his people are pretty aware of it anyway, sort of like when his boss told him that "it was a weather balloon, not a UFO."

[[WMG: This series was not originally supposed to be so [[HoYay homoerotic.]]]]
America was originally supposed to be female, per the real life use of feminine pronouns in reference to America. However, ExecutiveMeddling put the kibosh on that plan because they didn't want Japan to get beaten by a girl. As this rendered relationships with America incredibly HoYay laced, they decided to go the whole nine yards with additional characters and make the whole series like that.
* America was male and HoYay-rific long before executives thought that they might like to meddle in the series.
* It's true that there were quite a few countries that were originally going to be female but were changed to male in production. Whether it's ExecutiveMeddling or not, I don't know. However, I highly doubt any of the Allies and Axis were going to female at first, at all. Some people in RealLife think of their country as a beautiful woman, like a ship, but I don't think it has an influence on Himaruya's decision. If it did, Russia would be a MILF.
* You do realize that this is a webcomic and as such it had no ExecutiveMeddling until the anime came around, right?

[[WMG: All nation-tan's are pansexual]]
Even Sweden, especially since it's stated that [[SingleTargetSexuality he only likes Finland]]. They're personifications of countries. They must be ready to make treaties, get married, and be nice with other countries, no matter their gender.
* But an alliance doesn't have to be romantic/sexual in nature, unless it's [[RuleOfFunny played for laughs]]. I mean, when Japan, Germany, and Italy signed the Tripartite Pact under the kotatsu, they weren't exactly having a threesome...[[FridgeHorror unless...]]

[[WMG: The Nation-tans don't really have human names ]]
They just recently chose human names to use as a cover-up. Sure in the past we've seen humans refer to the nation-tans by their nation name, but then the nations were relatively safe from humans. There weren't things such as bombs around that could blast a country apart, so in those times it didn't matter if anyone knew that was a nation walking around or not. However, ever since the WWs, and the invention of nuclear weapons, nations now have to be very wary. Especially with terrorism. Imagine how much trouble would occur if terrorists realised that they could attack one nation-tan and destroy that nation as a result? At least if a nation-tan is alive there's always a chance for the country and culture to survive no matter what damage occurs to the landmass. Think about it, we haven't seen any human call a nation-tan by their nation name in the modern strips. The only one was the old book store owner that Germany sees, but considering his age the book store owner could very well be a veteran, thus knew Germany back when they were fighting in war together. On the other hand, we've seen America being called "Alfred" in a commerical; if his people were still calling him America then why did he need to use an alias? Surely they would know who their nation was if he appeared on TV, so why would he even need to use the fake name? It's because his people don't know that he's the embodiment of their nation, much like other people don't know who their own nation-tans are. Only the government and military personal know who the nation-tans are, because the government needs to keep an eye on the nation-tans to be able to know if there's any problems in their lands, and the military have to protect the nation-tan so the must know who to protect. Everyone outside of that just sees them as regular people though, thus they need fake human names to blend in.
* This has sort of been this troper's head-canon for a while, although said head canon has the human names being used for convenience as well as protection (after all, there's going to be times when they have to deal with humans and they can't be bothered explaining the whole nation thing). Also, points to France for hiding in plain sight.
** This troper loves France for hiding in plain sight but hates his human name...why be "Francis" if he could've been "François"?
*** Maybe he is François, but simply anglicized his name for some people. We all know America would be too stupid to pronounce "François" properly.

[[WMG: The nation-tans cannot be killed.]]
At least, not directly. The only way one could be killed would be by completely destroying their country. They do seem to get on relatively well, considering that most of the major characters have, at various times, been at war with the others. If they'd actually been trying to kill eachother, you'd think there'd be a lot more tension than there is. Italy and France are still having phone conversations during WW2! It would also explain why they're all still alive when they seem to fight on the frontlines. When they shoot at eachother, they're just trying to injure the other, but they know they can't actually kill them.\\
Admittedly, it's stated in a character profile that Germania 'delivered the fatal blow' to Roman Empire, but that could be interpreted as delivering the blow to the Roman Empire itself, not the actual person (I'm not strong on this area of History, so if that can be verified or shown wrong...). Alternatively, since Rome was shown to have aged after taking Italy and running off, the blow may have come after he started to age - something which rather suggests that he'd lost his position as a nation-tan by this point.\\
I also know England 'died' once, but since America was able to bring him back just by insulting him, he can't have really been that dead.\\
Really, I can't see that the nation-tans are able to be killed physically, considering how many battlefields they must have been on over the centuries. China was stabbed in the back, and he survived. Seriously, [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/knt.html look at that scar]]. There is no way he should have survived that.
* Or alternatively, they can get "killed" only to come back to consciousness after a short while. They could only really die if (in addition to above), their people are sufficiently broken or some cataclysmic event simply wipes out the country.
** [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4941946/1/The_Trip This]] [[KatekyoHitmanReborn KHR]] crossover presented a great theory as to why the Nations can't die: According to the author, a nation only well and truly 'dies' if there is not a single living person that recognizes him/herself as a citizen of that country. That also reasons out as to why 'dead' nations (Read: Prussia) are still around and kicking: A nation 'dies' when their identity has been erased from their citizens' minds. As for 'dead nations' like the Ancients Egypt and Greece: as their empires fell, their people identified more and more to their modern equivalents, and thus their life and position in the Hetalia world was shifted to their sons. As for Grandpa Rome, since a great majority of his landmarks and cultures are still widely invoked by the Italy Brothers, he exists, but only just, as does Prussia. No one truly identifies with Germania anymore, that's why you only see him with Grandpa Rome. In a nutshell, the citizens act like the Nation-tans' [[HarryPotter Horcruxes]], once they're all dead, then the nation-tans can finally die.
** The only problem with this theory is that Rome said he got permission from God to come down to see Italy (or he snuck away from God, I can't remember; anyway, God was mentioned in such a context). So he was pretty much dead and in Heaven, or wherever country spirits go when they die.
*** He got "permission". The last pannel was God tied up.
* Another similar theory states that humans can't kill Nations, but other Nations can. It still takes a hell of a lot to kill a whole Nation even as a Nation.

[[WMG: The early history of Great Britain...]]
...went as follows:\\
In Celtic times there was one nation-tan for the entire island. He was then forced up north by Rome, and became Scotland. Around this time a second nation-tan appeared, who represented Roman Britain. After Rome left and the Saxons invaded, he retreated into a relatively small part of the island and became Wales. And around this time England appeared. The Viking invasions then caused England to become the subject of a joint custody agreement.\\
As for the Norman invasion... Normandy could have had a personification. He took custody of England and for a while essentially took on the role of the England nation-tan (because actual England was still a child). He probably passed away quite peacefully sometime later, and England (by this point an adult or at least a teenager) quietly took his rightful role back.
* It depends as to whether or not Normandy got a personification. Considering how different the Franco-Viking Normans were from mainstream French culture during the early years, I'd say there probably was. However, he likely acted as a big brother figure to England, much like England would later do for America, rather than taking over directly. As for Scotland, I doubt he had the whole island - the southern Celts were Britons (sometimes called P-Celts) while the Gaels (Q-Celts) were in Scotland and Ireland. There was, perhaps, a Proto-Celtic personification (similar to Germania?) who fathered all the Celtic nations, with a Gaelic child or children who became Ireland and Scotland ([[YourMileageMayVary North Ireland and Man are up in the air]]), and a Brythonic child who became Southern Britain (modern England and Wales), later Roman ''Britannia''. Then, the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes (who were all very similar) came along, bringing with them either child England (Angleland), or a collection of tribal-tans that became the Heptarchy, with either England emerging from them, or either Mercia and/or Wessex rising to the position.
** This troper's head canon is that kiddie England appeared in the 7th century when Edwin of Northumbria was declared overking of most of what is now England and that it was in fact Deira, aka south Northumbria (who in my head is something like two parts Denmark to one part Prussia in the personality department) who found him. This was followed by centuries of ickle Iggy getting passed around from one kingdom to another as power shifted, finally ending up in Wessex's care until the Norman conquest.
** Northern Ireland probably didn't show up until a lot later. According to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Isle_of_Man#British_and_Irish_Celtic_dominance the other wiki]] the first Celts on the Isle of Man were probably Brythonic, but then it seems to have been sort of made more Gaelic by "the Irish invasion". Manx is closer to the Gaelic languages than it is to Welsh... so I guess that one depends on when you think the nation-tan would have appeared (if you think the Isle of Man has a nation-tan).
** In that case, it sounds like Man was a portion of England or Wales that was taken by Scotland and Ireland at some point (just like Corsica / Italy's Nipple), and was simply never reintegrated back into anyone. Officially, it's got its own parliament as is not considered a part of any constituent UK country - or a part of the UK proper, it's something like a Crown Dependency. I now have an image of Scotland, North Ireland, and England occasionally arguing over a nipple or something that's been placed on a fireplace [[IncrediblyLamePun man]]tel in their house (It's mine! No wai!). As for North Ireland, it depends on when he appeared. Is he the incarnation of pre-Irish-unification Ulster? Or did he appear in the '20s?
*** Er... I think I prefer the thought of Man being a person. I know England and Scotland fought over the island a lot, so maybe he'd be a little brother caught in a tug-of-war? (Historically, I'm not sure if he'd be older than England... but I like him as a little brother.) My headcannon on Northern Ireland is that they appeared some time before Ireland declared independance (the political views of the two parts were divided already) and is now an emotionally messed up teenager.
**** He could also easily be a person. But, in that case, he'd have to be an incredibly small one. Maybe Sealand- or Chibitalia-sized, since the island has less people than most modern cities. As for North Ireland, Himaruya apparently [[WordOfGod said that]] England was the youngest of his brothers. However, we can't rule out that North Ireland has had more than one incarnation, and thus his current form could appear younger.
***** Unless the Irelands ''aren't'' England's siblings (we don't know exactly how family relationships work in Hetalia) and the third brother ''was'' Man. And I thought their heights were based on the average heights of people living there, not the size of the country (or Crown Dependancy, as the case may be)?
****** It seems that [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Northern_Ireland.2C_Scotland.2C_and_Wales North]] Ireland, at the very least, is England's brother. There's no confirmation for [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Ireland the South]] of the Island, however. So maybe... although most {{Fanon}} ''does'' make them siblings. If not siblings, then, at the very least, related indirectly through North Ireland, possibly as some sort of custody battle. As for heights, it's mostly speculation. Sizes of Nation-tans seems to be a strange mixture of population heights (as you said), the size of their land-masses/population density, and they're relative ages. For example, Chibitalia was so small because he was a brand new "nation", that had not yet matured or gained independence, just like America and Holy Roman Empire. Either that, or, the colonial Americans and medieval Italians and Germans were '''seriously''' short people. XD

[[WMG: Not everything gets a Tan]]
When Finland first told France and England about a child sighted near his settlement, he didn't consider this could be a Tan. Despite all being there, having formed colonies, all three seem ecstatic that a new personification had possibly been born. Especially considering how much France and England colonized, this is an unusual reaction to something that in other theories would have been common.\\
The people of New Sweden (the probable establishment that birthed America) considered themselves members of their home countries, and not citizens of a new nation. It could be that a Tan's creation is linked to future development and identity, rather than just a identity claimed by its founding people.
* This does make a lot of sense. It could be that America appeared precisely ''because'' all these nations were settling colonies in the same area. If it had just been one or two countries, it would have been a continuation of that country in a new land. However, the many different founding nations resulted in the American melting pot, thus creating a new nation that is descended from - but inherently distinct from - the European countries.

[[WMG: If Hetalia is a parallel to ScandinaviaAndTheWorld, then Nyotalia/Hetalia Genderbends are all canon.]]
The Nyotalias represent the Sisters. They just haven't appeared because marketing the series as a mostly [[HoYay borderline-boy's love series has been working too well]].

[[WMG: The Hartford Convention, Hetalia Style]]
The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Convention Hartford Convention]], in which the New England states met to debate making a seperate peace with Great Britain and thereby declaring their independence, will take the form of a previously unseen New England character threatening America with cutting off his Nantucket ahoge. Before New England can act though, America and Great Britain make peace, much to the chagrin of New England.
* He will undoubtedly show up again sometime in the late 1860s, trying to convince Acadia / The Maritimes to join him instead of attempting that silly [[CanadaEh "Confederation"]] thing that Mattie had been going on about. Again, it never really gets off the ground for him... I sense a JokeCharacter ButtMonkey in this one!

[[WMG: The Nation-tans have been mistaken for gods and/or heroic figures later personified as gods in the past.]]
After all, if you were living in the ancient world and there was an immortal being running around on your land and accompanying your tribe or small principality into battle, you would likely think of it as a god, too. Especially since the Nation-tans represent their culture as a whole ''oh so'' well. Since religious and political leaders were often one and the same in those eras (and even in some recent ones), this served to reinforce the view among the people. Some of them could be rather obvious: The Olympian Pantheon were likely the Nation-tans of the many different city-states of Ancient Greece. The City of Athens, for example, was likely personified as Athena, who put a lot of emphasis on her people being wise and philosophical. It's possible that Momma Greece started out life as one of these (perhaps Athens, considering its the capitol, or Ancient Macedonia, being the Prussia of that relationship) before unifying à la Germany. Alternatively, she was their daughter, just as modern Greece is her son. Bonus points if the city-states lied in or met to do business in a house or similar structure on Mount Olympus.

Ancient Rome's story follows the idea of a historic character later deified (in this case, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quirinus Quirinus]]). Quirinus, of course, is the divine persona of the Roman people. [[WhamLine His original identity was Romulus]]. It really isn't too hard to figure out the story from that: Romulus and Remus were twin "city-state tans" who were born on or near the seven hills. As time passed and the small would-be nations grew, there came a reckoning, and Remus came out the loser. Rome, left as the sole -tan, was devastated by his actions and felt incredibly lonely. So, he agreed with his early bosses (the early Senate, perhaps?) when they said Rome needs women, and so he went off to abduct Sabine-tan, the personification of the Sabine people. Married to her, and with the abduction of the Sabine women taking place, they eventually became one people and Rome was left lonely again. He changed his human-name "identity" to Quirinus after "Romulus" mysteriously disappeared (he chose to go into hiding full-time as a nation-tan, rather than continue to be King) and Quirinus/Romulus was deified by his people. He, of course, chose to go out conquering to fill the void left behind by Remus and Sabine, which would fit perfectly with the theory some fans have that Rome indirectly killed Ancient Greece and Egypt after falling in love with them. He never got over killing his brother, and when he became old and knew that his time was near, willingly let Germania - the nation he thought of as his best friend - put him out of his misery. It may also explain why he favoured North Italy so much. After all, if Rome vaguely resembles South Italy, then perhaps North Italy took after Remus?

Of course, the Germanic gods were likely the personifications of the various Germanic and Norse tribes that existed in pre-Christian Europe (there were a LOT). As time passed and the tribes conquered, and in turn were conquered, the Germanic pantheon grew. Perhaps Odin/Woden and Thor were nation-tans at one time? A similar theory could be used for the Celtic gods. Maybe they were all ancestors of the modern British Isles siblings? Native American and other cultures may have held to the idea that the spirits of their tribes were in fact the spirits of nature and the land?

Eventually, of course, the nations decided to go into hiding, perhaps as a sort of [[HarryPotter Statute of Secrecy]] that was agreed upon by the nations. Maybe they didn't like playing god anymore, or they were forced into hiding after the rise of Monotheism in many places (Christianity in the West, Islam in Africa and the Middle East). India with its various states likely explains the Hindu pantheon, and China of course has his dragon and likely chose to hide anyway, just because he was old and didn't feel like bothering with all the power struggles any more. By the modern day, gods and goddesses disappeared into myth and nations chose to keep the concept of themselves alive by telling some artists and writers about the concept of a national personication, leading to the phenomena of [[TheFrenchRevolution Marianne]], [[TheBritishEmpire Britannia]], [[UsefulNotes/TheUnitedStates Columbia]], [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Germania, Italia, and Mother Russia]].
** It's also likely that after the arrival of Christianity and Islam, their respective clerics and preachers may have initially seen the Nations ''as'' pagan gods and would have likely tried to hunt them down. As they learned more about them, however, things got more complicated especially once the Vatican's personification shows up before the Papacy. It's possible that eventually, they eventually tried to either handwave them off as "forgotten saints" or simply hold up the masquerade.
** According to TheOtherWiki, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaldean_mythology Near Eastern mythology]] amongst more complex city-states held that the Gods were rulers of a cosmic order that represented their cities on a higher plane, and that Wars between the cities were analogous to wars/fights between the Gods that represented them. So... Babylon invaded Sumer's vital regions?

[[WMG: Alternatively, to the above theories, America and other nations simply adopt new customs instead of dying.]]
It's been established that, if anything, America looks like a cross between nations, such as Finland and/or Netherlands. More likely than not, America represented local tribes at first, before effectively converting to the American colonists. We already know from the Chibitalia stories that France and other European countries existed alongside Rome (normally, that would be an anachronism), and that the British Isles nations are England's brothers (and possibly sister). For that to work, the nation-tans would have had to exist in a previous incarnation (such as Gallia, Britannia, etc.) before becoming the modern nations they are now. That could possibly be because, when a new culture establishes itself in a country, the nation-tan simply adopts the new customs and language instead of outright dying. Therefore, the European countries likely became Frenchified/Anglophied/Germanophied/etc. It could be that a nation, like Rome, only outright dies when his entire government, society, structure, language, and everything else is effectively dead. Rome's "duties" were taken over by his grandsons, so, they took whatever survived Rome's fall and he subsequently died.

In the same way, it could very well be that America at first represented the tribes, and found himself transformed to represent the colonists, the new dominant force in that region. On top of that, regions of both Canada and the United States have many native people who have effectively assimilated into the majority culture, further lending credence to this theory. A previous nation-tan didn't just die and him replace it because the process of white people taking over the "New World" was somewhat gradual (the United States only declared the end of the "Frontier" in the last century, and Canada still has one with a large Native majority in those regions).

[[WMG: Provinces, states, whatever. They all have Tans.]]
[[http://www.horror-vacui.net/hetarchive/scanlation/shorts/hetastreeeem/isseisousin.jpg This]], from the Christmas event, shows that China's provinces are alive and vocal. If they're around for him, the cast of potential characters is far more massive than originally assumed.
* Considering the above link and the fact that micronation-tans have been appearing, this is almost pretty much canon. It's also possible, following the theory that they represent cultures, that the smaller tans basically represent different cultural regions within a larger nation, since it's hard to imagine a single large country representing an entire union of diverse peoples. Thus, there could be tans for the Caucasus in Russia, the American South, French Canada and/or Western Canada, the many tribes still extant in Africa, and generally just minority populations that exist in larger countries.
** [[http://i.imgur.com/9iKoB.jpg Japanese prefectures have also being release.]]

[[WMG: The Turnout of [[EurovisionSongContest Eurovision]] 2010 and the entrants for 2011...]]
...is because of the Hetalia-verse. Austria, although he loves music, hasn't competed since 2007. But Italy hasn't competed since 1997. Germany wins in 2010. In short, Italy is way happy that Germany won, and annoys the heck out of Austria to urge him to join again so they can both join Germany for 2011.

[[WMG: The nation-tans age physically partially based on how their country grows]]
As said above, the nation-tans age psychically partially based on how their country grows economically, politically, land and population wise. How else would America catch up so quickly with England (according to the wikia, they are physically a year or apart)? Like humans, though, they can't age backwards. How old their land is, how long civilization has lived there and so on also contribute to their age.
* Isn't this one already canon? That development and health is linked directly to progress (or lack thereof) of their citizens... Or was that just fanon?
** It was touched [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/rkgk7.html in this strip]]. North American colonies developed themselves very quickly, much to England's dismay.
*** Also, while Latvia is way older than America, he still look like a teenager because [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic he hasn't being able to develop properly due to Russia's intervention...]]

[[WMG: The gender-bends exist in canon.]]
For every nation there is a male and a female personification, and, in theory, a ruler gets to choose which of them will represent them at world meetings and such. However, the fact that bosses can choose was forgotten a long time ago, and they very rarely change things now. This is why there are more boys than girls; naturally, leaders of the past would be more likely to choose the males to represent them. Some, for whatever reasons, did choose the girl, but not very many. In Hungary's case, they probably thought they had two boys, and picked the more boyish of the two.
* Partially confirmed: They exist in canon ''but'' in another dimension (unless Estonia was just dreaming the whole time).

[[WMG:Family kinships are different amongst the nations compared to the ones humans have.]]
No one is really blood related since it is impossible for different nations to be fully blood related. Even with Romano and Italy they were confirmed to have different lineages with Romano having Arabic blood while Italy's is Germanic, at most I would say they are more like half siblings. Other siblings like Belgium and Netherlands, Russia, Ukraine and Belarus etc are related due to a common root in their heritage rather than a genetic bond. It could also explain why Russia and Belarus have different last names.
** I could believe this for the most part, but there are a couple of exceptions. England and Sealand are one, because the 'citizens' of Sealand are just British citizens. Possibly, I'd say Norway and Iceland too, since Iceland was uninhabited until the Norwegians settled there. Especially since there's a strip explicitly about them being siblings.

[[WMG:I hope to be {{Jossed}}. The prefectures that have been featured on Himaruya's blog are going to be characters for a new series he's working on and thus he will be ending APH pretty soon.]]
* Or they're just extended parts of the Hetalia universe... or they're for a different series that will be worked on alongside Hetalia because he can start a new series without ending this one. I... can't see where this idea would have come from. And I hope it to be false.
** I'm about 80% sure he's not quiting Hetalia for a long, long time. Volume Four just came out, and Volume Five has a vauge release date.

[[WMG: The strip will end covering the end of WorldWarII.]]
The strip is loose in covering whatever time period it feels like, but it began by covering the formation of the Axis and Allied Powers, with a brief introduction to the Holy Roman Empire, and WorldWarI. It's only fitting the finale would cover the victory of the Allies, with Germany, Italy, and Japan standing there, dumbfounded.
* Dumbfounded, not so much, they knew it was coming. By the end, the Axis' citizens were actually relieved that the war was over because it'd been going so horribly. Italy won't be there, they switched sides and were brutalized by the Germans for that. Prussia, based on evidence pointing to him becoming East Germany, is going to be dragged off by Russia. I can see it ending at that point in history, but it's not going to be simple.
** And then it will continue with a spin off series featuring Russia as the main character and it will be set during the Cold War. It will be called...Yandssia (can't think of a clever name but something to do with being yandere). The Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact will be a [[DysfunctionalFamily interesting take ]] of their [[FiveManBand cooperation with each other]] while NATO will be the [[BigBad big scary organization trying to tear Russia's family apart]]. Communism has never looked so cute.
** While the series may reach a "conclusion", it's hard to tell whether or not the series itself would end. Himaruya has a ''lot'' of potential ground to cover, as well as fan dissatisfaction of it just ending while so many stories could be made. After WWII is concluded, Himaruya could just continue to release strips as a sort of "After-Story", or contract out other people to do the same.
*** Alternately Himaruya will continue to do [[CashCowFranchise Hetalia]] until AuthorExistenceFailure kicks in.
* That's a nice idea but Himaruya hasn't added anything substantial to the WWII storyline in what, years? He's been doing other periods.

[[WMG: Hetalia takes place in Ireland.]]
It has to take place somewhere, right? That would explain why we don't have an Ireland nation-tan.
* But we don't have a lot of nation-tans. And why would it being set in a country mean they didn't get a -tan?
** ...I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around how a nation-tan can live in the country they represent.
*** They're there as well as the landmass, not instead of. Where else would they live?
**** Ireland.
**** And why not Mexico?

[[WMG: The Gen-Ben and 2P Nations are different personalities/bodies]]
See [[http://www.geocities.jp/himaruya/4ka00.html here]] for Nyotalia and Nyo-2Ps and [[http://www.geocities.jp/himaruya/4ka0.html here]] for 2Ps (Some fans say 2P are their dark sides, some just say different colors) nation-tans. The Nyo, 2P and Nyo-2P nations are different personalities in each 'original' nation-tan's head. There are four per nation-tan (Original, Nyo, 2P, and Nyo-2P) and each has their own body and personality. They can change the body of the nation-tan to their own whenever they feel like it, but the 'original' can overpower them if s/he really, ''really'' needs to. Whever someone talks about or references a personality, the nation-tan automatically changes to that personality.

[[WMG: The nations' homes are all in a separate dimension/universe/colony/whathaveyou.]]
They may have houses in the human world, but their primary homes are in another universe/colony/whatever that's strictly for nations, and they are in the same positions as the land masses would be. For example, Canada, Mexico, and America would all have homes near one another. The Atlantic Ocean might be a river or a lake separating the Western half of the nation's world from the Eastern, and England has a house on the water. Then you have Germany's house, and then France's, and so on and so forth. They have the ability to go into the human world whenever they please, but they really only stay there when they're on business. As for nations that share homes with someone else (like Germany and Prussia), there is a specific part of the house reserved for them. So, in Germany and Prussia's case, Prussia's wing would probably be in the Eastern part of the house.

[[WMG: In Paint it White, the alien's order of attack depends entirely on a nation's level of neutrality.]]
Mainly based off their stance in World War II, but general levels of neutrality contribute too.\\
Switzerland and Liectenstein were protected permanantly, as is shown in the movie. Iceland also appears to have done OK. And if I recall correctly, when England and France were in the room looking at the globe, and England turned it to look at his land, it showed the United Kingdom had been overtaken, but not Ireland, which frankly seems illogical, considering they're right next to eachother.\\
Which countries were overtaken? The former Axis and Allies, Finland, the only nordic not to take a neutral stance during the war, and Poland, who didn't really get much of a choice, but nonetheless could not be called neutral.\\
Some countries - like Canada - may have avoided being attacked earlier because they were under another country's rule at the time.\\
There's probably serious issues with this theory, but if permanent neutrality causes complete protection, surely it makes sense that a neutrality that hasn't lasted as long and isn't ''as''strong would also have some effect? So the aliens had to attack the countries which tend to take sides first, then they would be powerful enough to attack the more neutral ones (but not Switzerland).
* Oh, right. Just rewatched the movie, and it says they chose Earth because of all the fighting making it an easy target, so in retrospect this may have been kind of obvious.

[[WMG: The beauty of the nations is an adaptive characteristic.]]
It's intended to keep their leaders from hurting them, similar to how cuteness in the offspring of many species keeps their parents from abandoning them. If it's true that a nation cannot disobey a direct order from their boss unless the wider population is in revolt against the government, then this could lead to power abuse even on a very personal level (think of someone like Caligula ordering Rome to disembowel himself over and over again for sadistic amusement). The reason the nations all look like supermodels is because leaders are less willing to brutalize beautiful, cute, charming looking people. In addition, it might inspire regular citizens to fight harder for the country during wars (there are no ugly people on propaganda posters). This might be at work even on a generational level since nations live so long; it would explain why Rome looks so much rougher than his descendants/successors (that or standards of beauty changed).
* Interesting. This troper just put their good looks down to the fact that most people think that their homelands are beautiful, so they are, if that makes sense.

[[WMG: The nations were originally normal humans.]]
I've been toying with this idea for a while, but I never had any canon evidence to support it. However, in the recent micronation event, we met Nikko Nikko, who has apparently "RETURNED to being a normal Japanese citizen". Himaruya also noted at the end that it "might be difficult for the usual nations to REVERT back to normal people". The implications are clear: the nation-tans were once human.\\
What exactly this entails is hard to say. Perhaps it just means that when they first appeared, they aged normally, but quickly slowed in their age process. However, an idea I find more intriguing is that they were born to regular humans, and were just [[TheChosenOne chosen]] to represent their country.\\
There are obviously a few issues here. Firstly, familial relations between countries. Perhaps when they become nations, their appearence changes slightly to resemble their new 'family'. Also, micronations. I can't say exactly where Sealand would have come from; maybe his parents were just some poor, random couple in Britain.\\
Yes, this guess does have some pretty heartbreaking implications. But I think it has a basis.
* This troper has read fanfics based on the idea that it was a sort of reincarnation deal. Someone very important to their nation's people dies and later wakes up de-aged and knowing that they're now the country itself (in the fics in question, England is usually [[KingArthur ''that'' Arthur]], one fanfic had Poland being some famous king who united the people who became the Poles, and another had Australia being Ned Kelly). Of course, that still leave the question of where the blinking hell Sealand came from.
** Could you give me a link to that fanfic?
*** Which one?
*** The one with Australia, preferably

[[WMG: The nation-tans genuinely don't know how bad war actually is for normal humans.]]
The worst they usually get from wars is a painful and embarrassing but non-lethal beating, so they assume it's the same for humans. This explains how the nation-tans appear to be perfectly sweet and nice people (with the exception of Russia) and remain on speaking terms with each other while the nations they represent get involved in horrible war crimes. From their point of view, it's like losing a playground game; stings a bit, but no real damage. HighOctaneNightmareFuel indeed, plus TearJerker if they ever found out.

[[WMG: Alternately, they're all secretly raving psychopaths and enjoy killing humans.]]
Human lives don't really matter when you're centuries old, and most people don't know the nation-tans exist so nobody can stop them.

[[WMG: The ahoges aren't actually hair, but antennae.]]
The nations appear to have sensation in them, and hair is dead tissue. Since they're not actually human, they're not obliged to follow human anatomy. Brings to mind the VermillionLies song "Long Red Hair", almost ...

[[WMG: The nation-tans are the souls of their respective countries]]
The troper will admit that this theory was inspired by a certain HumanoidAbomination but it makes sense. You know the term 'national psyche'? Well, that's what they are; the collective attitudes, values, emotions, motivations, abilities, beliefs and quirks of every person who considers themselves part of any given nation given human form, with some other, more metaphysical stuff mixed in.

* This. They are the "idea" of a nation, not the actual territory (that changes with time), not their government (even more fickle), nor their subdivisions (states, provinces, counties, etc.). They are almost the "spirit" of a people, a la Hegel.

[[WMG: Spain is responsible for the Italies' uselessness.]]
From [[http://hetalia-kink.livejournal.com/18439.html?thread=63121415#t63121415 this kinkmeme request]]: "So you all probably noticed how potentially badass Chibitalia and Chibimano were. But when they grew older, they became more and more useless and cowardly. In the series, they stated that tomatoes can make you useless. Spain grows tomatoes. But you don't see him eating them. He does, however, feed them to the Italies. The reason is this- he's afraid that the Italies, being descended from Rome, would rise up and control Europe. They do have the potential power and strength after all. In order to stop that from happening, Spain feeds them tomatoes so that they woud grow more useless and useless. BONUS: The times when Spain would fall into trouble? It's usually because he ate a tomato at that time, because there was nothing else to eat."

[[WMG: A nation-tan can not exist unless a 'national bond' of sorts is strong enough among it's people.]]
Allow me to explain. In order for a nation-state to genuinely exist internally, it's people must recognize a common bond between themselves. It can be something as simple as language, traditions, or something like agriculture. Or it can be something like religion, political beliefs, or a common enemy. In order for a nation-tan to come about, this bond has to be strong enough among the people to create an anthromorphical form, and thus a nation might be born. However, in order for the nation-tan to survive, others must recognize it as a potential form of state, or it will disappear the moment the bond between it's citizens become non-existent, or simply changes.

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[[folder: Future Nations]]

[[WMG: Brazil and India will appear, sooner or later]]
They'll be in the modern day strips, with Russia and China, as being the developing countries (or the wannabes). It'll be an allusion to BRIC. Prepare for lots of soccer and curry related jokes.
* I'm just imagining the war ending, and England having to go through Eddie Izzard's [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6omQ5JjjLsE bit]]... The section in question is in the last about 40 seconds (I couldn't find a more specific clip :<) But the rest is worth a listen; if for no other reason than that it's pretty close to what the series is.
** Confirmed, India made its appearance in the Halloween Special

[[WMG: The Asian {{Meido}} character [[http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/metanorn6/aph/asia3.jpg]] introduced after Australia is most likely to be the Philippines.]]
* She is counted among the Asian group, and yet, she wears a western Meido uniform. This probably reflects the Philippines' rather Western and Latin culture [despite being Asians] and the fact that many foreign maids are Filipino women. This has a bit of UnfortunateImplications for many Filipino fans because of RealLife abuses against the maids, but they are quite willing to accept her since she looks like a {{Tsundere}} and a NinjaMaid.
** Actually, that's Vietnam. There is a character in the first episode of the anime who is speculated to be the Phillipines, though.
*** WordOfGod says the maid is simply a Spanish housemaid. I predict we'll get Philippines when he finishes drawing the ASEAN10 as he said he wanted to do.
*** Officially Jossed. Himaruya was trying out another design for Vietnam with that sketch, and he's still trying to decide what type of hairstyle to give her.

[[WMG: Kurdistan-tan exists]]
* Kurdistan is a nation without a state, whose people tends to organize as their own government. It even provides services where and when it is able to. He is a young nation, who is argued over by older nation-tans who have joint custody of him.
** So he would be a brother to Iran, but Turkey and Iraq hate him for being annoying.

[[WMG: Just as East Germany is really Prussia, West Germany is really the Confederation of the Rhine.]]
* Which was itself formed from the broken HRE, so...

[[WMG: [[{{Oireland}} Ireland]] will be female.]]
The series has a distinct shortage of female compared to male nations. In Ireland's case, the author would be totally justified in making Ireland female, since Ireland's name ''Éireann'' / ''Éire'' gives us the (female) first name of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin Erin]]. She could possibly be a BottleFairy {{Tsundere}} with CoolBigSis attributes, constantly fighting against England (now the main fighting has to do with the above-mentioned "custody battle over North Ireland"). She could also have had a hand in raising the other Commonwealth nations (after all, England IRL and in Hetalia had a hands-off approach; meanwhile, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Newfoundlanders Ca]][[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_Irish na]][[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–Ireland_relations da]] and the Oceania-region Commonwealth nations have a history of Irish immigration). Going off on a tangent, Ireland and Scotland may have actually raised the Commonwealth nations together in England's absence. That would explain [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Gaelic Canadian Gaelic]], and why more English Canadians claim Irish and/or Scottish heritage than English proper. Adding to my theory, [[BonnieScotland Scotland]] will have to be most definitely male, since what better name to give him than [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Scott]]? Bonus points if they're [[ScotIreland twins]].
* The UK is completely male, it's already canon in that England's been tormented by his brothers since his childhood. Depending upon whether you believe that Ireland would be related to England or not, this would mean that it would also be represented by a male.
** Did it say that England ''only'' has brothers, or just has brothers plural? Because it's completely possible that they have a half-sister, and/or that Eire is the closer to Earth but less social fraternal twin to the CuteButCacophonic brother who isn't Scotland or Wales.
*** {{Jossed}}. It's specifically said England has four older brothers.
**** Where so? I remember it being said he was the youngest of four brothers, which would provide weirdness for Northern Ireland being one of the elders ones (unless the Irelands were twins). He has not seemed to say much about Ireland itself in regards to their relation to England or Northern Ireland, except that their brows are thick yet with a different feel than England's.
**** well maybe ireland is so tomboyish that aurthur considers her a brother even though she's a girl
**** I have read notes where he said that Ireland would probably be female.
**** If he's the youngest of 4, then the 4th brother would ''have'' to be Ireland, there's no real way around it. The UK has 4 countries, but Northern Ireland didn't make an appearance until the 20th century when England would already have been about 1,100 years old. Therefore, you're left with the brothers consisting of Scotland, Ireland, England, and Wales. Unless a source appears on the above troper's claim that the canon has changed, that's what we have to go with.
***** In regards to the above: check below for some links that show Northern Ireland as one of the brothers. This actually makes sense, since while Northern Ireland as we know it only appeared in the last century, the Province of ''Ulster'' has been around for longer than a united Ireland, being one of the small kingdoms that eventually came to be part of Ireland, much like the Heptarchy mentioned below.
***** Going off topic here, but if he's the youngest of four, what about Sealand?
***** You have to think of Sealand along the lines of America, he really doesn't factor into the equation despite the role of 'brother'. The "4 brothers" refer to the countries which made up the British Isles before the UK was formed. Northern Ireland, because it came so late, is also not counted in the original four. Because the UK doesn't represent Sealand (the UK has actually gone to great lengths to avoid dealing with them because they're so volatile and annoying), he also isn't counted when it's referred to England representing his brothers in meetings. I personally like to think of Sealand more as a child in a series insistent on the terms 'brother' and 'sister', he was more born from England than anything and he doesn't affect England's fraternity.
***** Maybe his brothers are Scotland, Wales, and ''Cornwall''. It may not technically be a different country these days and hasn't been for a long time but it was when England first came into existence and remained independent until the 11th century, it's believed to have been more or less left alone by the Anglo-Saxons, and there's apparently quite a few Cornish people who think they're separate from the English, plus it's got it's own culture, language (even if there's very few people who still speak it), and flag.
***** If Cornwall is personified, should Isle of Man and Brittany be too? Isle of Man would have to be a man of course, but would Brittany be male despite the name?
****** Well Brittany was independent until the 16th century, on the other hand, wouldn't they be France's?
****** Isle of Man is independently governed and not part of the UK, so it probably would have a personification. Whether or not he would appear in the series is a different matter (as an unimportant sidenote I like to include him when writing fanfiction).
****** It's possible that, due to the fluid change of "countries" in Britain, the 4 brothers have changed over time. England may only be the youngest of the Heptarchy (which would actually be seven, so scratch that), or maybe he ''was'' the youngest until a new one came along. Conversely, it hasn't been the first time the author has changed the gender of a Hetalia character. Hungary was originally gonna be a guy, and Poland a girl... so it really could change at his whim. Or, Ireland's a cross-dresser?
******* Maybe some of the Heptarchy were/are girls (based on RuleOfFunny Essex almost certainly was)? Or maybe he's the youngest of four ''surviving'' brothers, since some of the Heptarchy (eg, Wessex and Mercia) probably wouldn't have survived until the present day.
******* It would seem that [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Northern_Ireland.2C_Scotland.2C_and_Wales Northern Ireland]] was the correct assumption, illogical as it may be. But then, no one ever claimed Hetalia to be perfectly logical... [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Ireland Some Stuff is said about Ireland]] itself, so that's up in the air. Himaruya considered a female Ireland in 2007, but it's not set in stone, and it could easily change. Apparently, she would likely have been a crybaby if he ran with this idea. Well, this strengthens a few arguments without actually settling or jossing anything.

[[WMG: The Philippines already appeared in the anime but the staff did not name her.]] [[http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/nikkihiiragizawa/03spain.png]] the fact that she serves Spain [which in RealLife is her colonial master] is a good indication of this.
** According to the official Hetalia book, "World Wide Walking", that's not Philippines. According to the translation, that's just a maid who's just there in the background.
*** ''Yeah Right''. And what is my country (in)famous for in the rest of the world? ''Maids!''
**** Actually, Himaruya has confirmed that she is just a Spanish housemaid when a fan asked who she was once. So, there isn't really a personification for Philippines so far in the series.
**** Honestly, the belief that this is the Philippines seems more like Filipino fans reaching to find themselves in the canon more than actual, solid theory. A lot of nations have, at this point, not been personified; Philippines isn't an exception.

[[WMG: South Africa will be white and not black.]]
* It would be more realistic if he was related to England or Holland rather than being portrayed as black. After all, South Africa's history had been made mostly by whites.
** This is an incredibly racist, insular statement. The Xhosa, Bantu, Asanteman, Zulu, and many other black African political entities in that region had centuries of history before and after European colonization, it's just not a topic that white people generally care or know anything about. Furthermore, the history of modern South Africa 'made by whites' involved whites * in power* , yes - ruthlessly oppressing a vast black majority, as well as Asian and mixed-race people. The most significant event in the last fifty years of South Africa's history was the overcoming of that oppression by peaceful means under Nelson Mandela. All races of South African people participated in that effort, but the ANC, by inevitable demographics, also had a large black majority.
*** However, given that Himuruya is also influenced by Eurocentrism and concentrates mostly on * European* and East Asian history, the WMG is still valid.
*** Alternately, there may have been separate nation-tans for Colonial South Africa and Black South Africa, or Colonial South Africa and -tans for each of the sham state 'homelands' the Apartheid regime propped up. Modern South Africa could be White and Black South Africa's child, or just the two of them awkwardly trying to live together as a democracy. Given the high degree of separation and disparity that still persists there, I believes the latter theory.
*** Alternately [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment alternately]], South Africa is biracial with a self-loathing complex.
* Perhaps there are two, what had been a colony and the original nation, and they fight for control of the house? It would fit beyond just South Africa into a lot of places which were occupied by Europeans.
** The only problem I see with that is, with the amount of African nations that had at one point been under colonial rule, it would get rather crowded and hard to remember who is who. And Hetalia is [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters one big clusterfuck]] already.
*** This troper personally opts for the notion that the ''original'' South Africa-tan is/was white because it was founded as an European colony: all the native nation-tans were just forcibly shoved into his/her house against their will. But now there's a new biracial South Africa-tan that's the child of all these previous nation-tans who's currently running the house.
* America isn't Native American, Australia isn't Aborigine, and Japan isn't Ainu. Sadly, it appears as though native populations don't factor into the race of a tan. I'd imagine that India and Bangladesh are British Empire-born as well...At best, maybe as tan as Egypt or Turkey.
** I would say it's based more on what the 'typical' modern day inhabitant from that country is. America and Australia are, or at least are considered, majority-white countries, so they're white. I would say India and Bangladesh would be, well, ethnically Indian-looking (not British), because at least as far as I know that is the general opinion on what people from India look like. The history of South Africa is complicated and the general 'opinion' on what race they are rather split, so really god knows.

[[WMG: If there is ever a Philippines-tan she will be a girl her human name will be somewhere along the lines of Corazon Rizal.]]
This is WMG isn't it? \\
"Las Filipinas" (The Philippines in Spanish) is a feminine noun, and as said somewhere higher up in this page there aren't that many female countries. Unless another WMG above is true and he made the same mistake with the Philippines as he did with America.
Why Corazon Rizal? Well Philippines-tan will most likely have a Spanish name (almost everyone in the Philippines does). Plus it'd be a nice tribute to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corazon_Aquino a well-loved former president]] and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Rizal the national hero.]] Some of the other countries' names are based off of historical figures as well.
* Alternatively, she works as a Spanish maid/dominatrix who practices boxing...

[[WMG: DoctorDoom and BlackPanther are Nation-tans for Latveria and Wakanda respectively.]]
* More specifically they are what occurs after a Nation-tan decides that the current ruling bodies of the land they represent are not acting in their land's best interest and take ruler ship for themselves. They become internally prosperous but any and all actions outside there countries fail since they disrupted the true order of things. T'Challa is aware of this that is the real reason why he doesn't sell his cure for cancer, because it only works with Wakanda. Doom on the other hand refuses to believe it hence why he keeps trying to take over the rest of the world.
** IronManArmoredAdventures universe's BlackPanther isn't Wakanda's Nation-tan. His father was explicitly killed in his back-story, which means that he's human... [[WildMassGuessing or Nation-tans can pass on their status as Nation-tan to their biological children after their death.]] Although, his only successful actions outside Wakanda were against a fellow Wakandan, so the rest of the theory holds true.
** We've seen how Italy came out of Rome's death, so possibly T'Challa's father represented a previous version of Wakanda that was destroyed to the point that after being reconstructed, T'Challa came into being.


[[WMG: Mexico is female, and will pretend to be in a relationship with America.]]
Since [[Memes/{{Politics}} Canada is]] [[MistakenIdentity America's hat]], Mexico [[IncrediblyLamePun must be]] [[HoYay America's]] [[TheBeard beard]]. (See [[IncrediblyLamePun Tony's entry]] near the top [[JustForPun for precedence of APH politics based on punnery]].)
* I think that happened in ''ScandinaviaAndTheWorld''.
* Given this is Hetalia, and it doesn't shy away from HoYay, why is the 'female' part important?
** Because if she wasn't then she wouldn't be TheBeard.

[[WMG: All Stateless Nations have a nation-tan.]]
Every stateless nations are represented by a tan somewhere in this universe. (For examples, please see the Encyclopedia of Stateless Nations). People have talked about Kurdis-tan, and we've seen Sealand in the anime already. Why not others? Maybe New England is around somewhere, living with America. And Quebec is in Canada's house.
* I'm pretty sure this one's already canon, considering bodies like Quebec and Vatican City have been personified. It's most likely that he just has had no need to show everything that has representation, and not a matter of that their representation isn't there.
** Which leaves: all the nations and stateless nations have a nation-tan, it's just that Himaruya had yet to reveal them. In any case, all nation-tans and stateless states do exist.

[[WMG: Che from {{Evita}} is Argentina.]]
In ''Evita'' he serves as an everyman/narrator, and at one point appears to be arguing with Eva, appealing to her conscience to help the poor like she promised to do. And, well, who better to narrate about a country's most famous citizen than the country himself. (Yes, I am aware he's supposed to be Che Guevara, but this sounds better.)
* Che from ''Evita'' has nothing to do with Che Guevara. ''Che'' is a coloquialism that can be translated as ''dude''. Che represents the people of Argentina, the working class of Argentina or Argentina itself.

[[WMG: South Africa-tan is, in accordance with both theories, black. And white.]]
During the time where the apartheid was going on and whites ruled in South Africa, they refused to acknowledge the real South Africa-tan as their nation-tan and forced a white person into being their nation-tan. Since he was human and never meant for that role, the pressure of it more or less breaks him - we've seen that nations have some of their people's stereotypes as their personality traits. South Africa has so many cultures, languages, and groups of people native and otherwise that all of their stereotypical personality traits become his and, since many of them utterly contradict each other, it overloads him, driving him into a catatonic state. Normal nations develop slowly over time, so the real South African-tan is able to handle the diverse personalities of the nation's people. The white South Africa-tan couldn't take the sudden overload. Now that black people have gotten more rights there and have taken back their country, the real South Africa-tan is back. He or she probably let the white South Africa-tan die off peacefully, as by this time he would've lived far longer than a human was meant to be with a constant stream of MindRape thrown at him; the kindest solution was to just let him go. As a result of this clusterfuck and the failure of forcing a human to be a nation-tan, no other country ever attempted it again.
* Or let's say that the original South African or Transvaal Republic fought by the British in the Boer War was the original South Africa-tan, then he was demoted to a province as the Transvaal then after the end as Gauteng province. Then, a black South-Africa tan, a mixed or Colored one, took over and became the present South Africa-tan.
* Or maybe South Africa-tan gained the power to change colors (like a chameleon) because of the stress.

[[WMG: Mexico is to America as Belarus is to Russia.]]
People think this because of the issues with immigration between Mexico and America. [[http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=133484843337288 There's a Facebook page for it]]
* America isn't afraid of Mexico, though, nor does he try to avoid it like Russia always does with Belarus. From the few times Mexico has been mentioned, America seems to alternate between thinking of and working with Mexico like a business partner and considering it a rival/nuisance.
** Besides, Belarus is very forward about 'crossing Russia's borders', if Mexico tried the same thing it would probably end up either shot or sent back home (if not both). Especially now, as the US is in an immigration crack down, there's no way Mexico could be so blatant about his presence. The fanon makes their relationship concerning immigration almost a TomAndJerry-esque one, and that might be more likely.

[[WMG: The Mexican-American War was the result of a LoveTriangle that [[TearJerker went horribly wrong]].]]
I'd say a type eleven; with America at point A, Mexico at B, and Texas at C. Or a type eight with the twist that despite all three loving each other they wanted the other two to be theirs exclusively thus making [[TenchiSolution the obvious solution]] not desired.
* Texas gave America her glasses as she passed away.

Alternatively...

[[WMG: Texas was the (now deceased) [[HasTwoMommies child of America and Mexico.]]]]
The Mexican-American War was a custody dispute [[TearJerker that ended tragically]]. Texas gave America his glasses in this version, too, but possibly a little earlier.\\
(Sorry, I just can't picture The Republic of Texas still being alive, and if s/he isn't alive then it will be played for Drama.)
* At the same time, APH is an allegorical telling of history that is played for RuleOfFunny. And your theory has precedence going against it. Prussia is still around, as well as the other Italy, meaning that two historical nations that no longer exist as nation-states are still running around causing general havoc. Sealand was never a nation (hell, you can describe it as a glorified oil platform and basically get it's nature down).\\
Just look at China. If you wanted to play it up for drama, the PRC is a young nation who systematically killed all the siblings who rose up from the remains of the Chinese empire, but has the bad fortune of being mentored by Russia (and getting mind-freaked) while waiting desperately for his chance to finally finish the job with the ROC (who, while never regaining her full strength due to her illness, is friends with the US and managed to create a vibrant culture of her own).\\
Drama only happens on rare occasion, angst is typically out of character, and the main appeal of the show is the fact that it has so many cheerfully unbalanced stereotypes playing out the roles of history.\\
Besides, wouldn't you want to see this joke with the Zimmerman telegraph:\\
''America: WE HAD A DEAL! I STAY OF EUROPE, AND YOU STAY OF THE AMERICAS! IT WAS THAT SIMPLE!''\\
''Texas: Um... hey, ya'll... I really don't like the idea of Mexico trying to invade my vita...''\\
''America: Shut up, Texas! The grown ups are talking.''
* Actually, the joke I want to see come from the Zimmerman telegraph involves a Tsundere Mexico turning down the offer because of the numerous ways it would upset America but saying s/he turned it down because of how difficult it would be (despite the fact that Mexico and America weren't that close at the time). However the main reason I assumed Texas had a bad end was because the glasses that are supposed to represent Texas came across as a TragicKeepsake, and there can't be a tragic keepsake without a tragedy... however during the reading of your response I figured ways for it to be something other than a tragic keepsake and thus tragedy is no longer required.
** Considering how it's now canon that provinces and such are personified, it's hard to imagine that an economy and population as large as Texas would have been killed off.
** Not to mention the spirit. If the Nation-tans are personifications of belief and identity, well... Texans still celebrate Texas Independence Day, identify themselves as Texans before Americans, and you'll see twice as many Texas flags as American flags if you visit. It's hard to see Texas being dead with all that.
*** Following the same logic, there is quite likely a Hawaii as well.
*** [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/13/chile-flag-mistaken-for-t_n_761511.html When they recognize the Texan flag, of course.]]
[[WMG: Regardless of whether either of the previous two theories is true, Mexico will have a huge case of BelligerentSexualTension with America.]]
* Even if ''Mexico'' isn't a girl, most Latin-American Nation-Tans will be. The Dominican Republic and Haiti will have a sort of [[RedOniBlueOni Italy-Brother's dynamic]], Barbados has the Iggy-brows (which she ''hates''), Colombia is a serious emotional wreck, and Puerto Rico is so {{Tsundere}} towards America that she tries to forget that she's technically one with him.

[[WMG: There was never a Confederate States-tan.]]
* Rather, the CSA was a council of States-tan. Since this is APH we're talking about, all of them were cheerfully deranged and able to be defeated through their eccentricities.
* No, she's clearly America's estranged sister. Her name is [[IncrediblyLamePun Dixie]].
** We never see her because she's 1. not politically relevant anymore (she's only still alive thanks to [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve power of belief]]) and 2. Alfred represents her and the Native America-tans as Arthur does the other British nations.
*** Arthur represents the other British nations politically, though. Bodies like Native Americans are essentially unspoken for, especially outside of their various jurisdictions. If Alfred was representing them, he forgot.
* Another theory is that he/she exists as a Brazilian Enclave and city called Americana. After the Civil War, many former Confederates immigrated to Brazil, where they were known as Confederadoes. Though they consider themselves Brazilian and no longer clamor for States' rights, they still remember their Confederate heritage. It's likely that CSA was dying by the end of the Civil War and America, not wanting to have his sibling die, gave him/her over to Brazil so he/she could continue to exist.
* Maybe The Confederacy was a figment America's imagination that somehow went wild, and now the Southern states believe he's an actual nation-tan.
* Perhaps it was a LiteralSplitPersonality?


[[WMG: Canada and America have a older brother named Newfoundland.]]
* Newfoundland was where the vikings landed at Vinland making him the oldest. Newfoundland was also a completely separate British Colony until 1949. Meaning that he fought both world wars before joining the Confederation. We never see him because neither America nor Canada can understand the accent he speaks with.

[[WMG: Each of the indigenous American nations also has a personification.]]
There can't just be "Native America-tan" because that's ''not'' a nation. But there could certainly be, say, Apache-tan and Lakota-tan and so forth. As someone mentioned above, nowadays they're probably living on reservations with the people whose belief keeps them going.
* We've only seen one canonically so far, and the chances of seeing more are quite slim. But, especially considering the micro-nation spree that Himaruya has been on lately, within the laws of the canon they probably are all represented individually.

[[WMG:The personfication of Lady Liberty is America's wife/girlfriend.]]
The reason why is America is extremely dedicated to liberty,justice,and the pursuit of happiness.Plus in the past Lady Liberty has been used as a personification of America.I can even imagine that she came along with France as an extra bonus to the statue in her honor. I cannot think of any other country who could fit Alfred to a T.I can see her as his faithful spouse or girlfriend who carrys the high ideals the country stands for and has a continuing friendly relationship with France(provided that he doesn't do anything funny to her which would make Alfred hunt him down to the ends of the earth).I can see Alfred devoted to her and probably treats her like a queen.In other words Lady Liberty is Alfred's perfect first lady.

[[WMG: Wales will own a dragon.]]
If England gets a unicorn and loads of fairies and stuff hovering around, then his brothers should get something too. Scotland, of course, has the Loch Ness Monster and Ireland should have some [[{{leprechaun}} leprechauns]] hanging around his house. Also, [[{{Rule of Cool}} dragons are awesome]].
* Well, [[spoiler: China's boss is a dragon, so it's possible.]]
* In playing with the stereotypes, wouldn't it be more likely he just owns lots and lots of sheep?
** He does own of sheep. [[PutOnABus He never shows up on the world stage anymore because he has to keep the dragon from eating them all day.]]

[[WMG: If the Confederate States of America exists, he/she will be shorter and younger than America.]]
Nations' heights and ages are at least partially determined by how powerful they are, how much land they have, and how stable they are internally. The CSA suffered from the same problem as HRE--a strong appearance but a weak constitution. His/Her vital regions could never really agree on anything except that they wanted to secede and some even wanted to secede from the CSA. Therefore, given CSA's condition and later time of "birth," it's likely that his/her growth might have been stunted.
* This one I can see, since there's no way that it could be ''dead'' with how many people still consider it alive and well. But with how fractured/underfunded/hit by natural disasters it is... Probably short and pretty scrawny.

[[WMG: Confederate States-tan was brutally murdered as an infant]]
If new nation-tans are children, and they are linked to the nations they represent... well either that or...

[[WMG: Confederate States-tan was actually a split personality/clone of America ]]
And in fact, still exists even today, deep inside America's brain, making him elect G.W. Bush.
* I love you.

[[WMG: There are two Mexico's]]
North and South. North is more western and South more traditional. Most likely opposite genders too; I'm going for the male to be North.
* This theory could be (and usually is) applied to nations that haven't been personified yet. While I understand the motivation, it doesn't seem to take into account how the series is. Every nation, especially one with a very large population, is culturally diverse. Yet we have single personifications for Russia, China, etc.. Mexico shouldn't be any different.
** It all depends on what Himaruya decides to show us. There appears to be only one nation per country, but we sometimes see more. South Italy, Prussia (East Germany?), and even Scotland, North Ireland, and Wales have been confirmed to exist as nations living with the "main" representatives. It could just be that whoever is dominant gets to take on the name of the country, while the other constituents taken a backseat. We don't really get to see any others, and unless Himaruya decides to show us or [[WordOfGod tell us]], we may never know if there is more than one Mexico (if Mexico even appears at all). Heck, at one point, Himaruya debated making a character for Castile. Not to mention that China ''did'' get more than one personification: Hong Kong is now a part of China (having been returned), and Taiwan ''wants to be'' China (hosting the government-in-exile of of the Republic of China). We haven't seen enough of Russia to get the full story on him, yet. As well, considering the "micro-nation" wave that happened recently (on top of the ones already introduced), it really wouldn't be that hard to imagine.
*** Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales ''are'' separate countries, as was East Germany. Don't know a lot about Italian history, but if Italy wasn't two countries at some point then we can always go with the justification that Italy is the main character, so it's natural there would be more focus on Italian history.
**** Correction, they ''were'' separate countries. And while they maintain their own separate cultures (and recently, parliaments), they are still part of the UK - a unitary state. Arguably, the same point could be made for any number of "countries" and "nations", depending on how we use the term. Mexico is a federation (The United Mexican States). That means it could easily have one, two, or even multiple -tans (a la the German states that had appeared at one point). It could also be that Mexico ''once'' had more than one, and the number's been thinned down to a single -tan. All of this, of course, depends on whether or not Himaruya bothers to make Mexico canon by drawing him/her/[[TakeAThirdOption them/it]]. As for Italy, there have been a number of states on the peninsula, from a united Italy to two Italys to a large number of city-states.
***** Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Ireland are still separate countries today. Although countries are usually independent states it's not necessary for them to be. In this case, England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland are formerly independent states that retain their cultural identity, institutions, and historic memories, which by definition makes them countries. These four countries make up the larger country known as the Unite Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

[[WMG: Should Åland ever be introduced...]]
He/she will be {{Yandere}} for Sweden, influenced by his/her time spent in Russia's house. Sweden will be oblivious (because he/she was such a sweet kid, pre-Russia) while Finland will use this as his reason for trying to keep him/her in his house, so he can keep an eye on him/her.

[[WMG: During the Qing Dynasty, Manchuria is the Prussia to China.]]
If Prussia was the dominant state in Germany, then in Qing Dynasty China, Manchuria is, since the Qing Dynasty is Manchu in origin. However, Manchuria was later dominated by Russia and later Japan, the latter giving him/her nominal independence as Manchukuo. However, she was reconquered back by China and was only mentioned rarely since.
* It would be history canon, but considering the fact that the region went through a complete shitkicking throughout WWII and the Second Sino-Japanese War, she may not have even survived. Especially since Manchuria was heavily Sinicized following it's incorporation into China. It may still have a regional identity, though, so he/she may still exist similar to Tibet.
* Perhaps Manchuria lives in China's house like Prussia lives in Germany's house, except s/he is now called Dongbei and does things like be a tech help operator (Dalian is a major destination, present-day, of job outsourcing and vacationing for Japanese tech companies) and making crude jokes about the good old days. The Manchu ethnic identity hasn't died yet, so the idea can be explored in fanfiction.

[[WMG: There are two Ireland's]]
Northern and Ireland. We can presume the latter will be female, since WordOfGod is he was thinking of a female, crybaby, Ireland back in 2007.
* I think most people had assumed that. There should be, logically.
* I've been pimping these several times on this page, but once more shouldn't hurt. [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Ireland Ireland]] and [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Northern_Ireland.2C_Scotland.2C_and_Wales North Ireland]] have been mentioned as minor characters that haven't been seen or properly developed yet. A lot of doors remain open for their eventual characterization.

[[WMG: Portugal is an AloofBigBrother to Spain]]
Well, he might not be older but he has the looks at least. If he's not the older then Spain is a BigBrotherMentor ''and'' a BigBrotherBully.
Oh, and they have the [[TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivalry The Glorious War Of Brotherly Rivalry]] going on.
* Portugal's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Portuguese_Alliance close relationship]] with Spain's maritime nemesis England probably doesn't help matters. Goodness, they probably ganged up on Spain to make his life hell during the colonial era...
* Portugal also probably holds a grudge for when Spain was [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_Union in control of]] him or her. Their relations have consistently been terrible until the modern day, though they're starting to work it out now.

[[WMG: [[SouthOfTheBorder Mexico]] is the [[ChildByRape child]] of [[BadassSpaniard Spain]] and the [[{{Mayincatec}} Aztec Empire]].]]
Maybe not rape (Invasion doesn't have to mean rape, reguardless of what the FanDumb does in fanfiction), but, this was pretty much how Mexico was born in history. This troper can't picture Spain simply "finding" New Spain running around and adopting them like England and America. Just throwing this out there.
* The whole 'England adopting America' scenario didn't make sense in the first place. [[PlotHole What is a European child doing in a land of people which looks nothing like him?]]
** When America first appeared, it was stated that there were at least 5 European Tans on the continent (there were actually quite a few more). There's no reason a European-descended Tan running around would be a PlotHole.
* That is actually a very credible theory since Mexico is a mestizo country since the beginning, and ALMOST all the people in Mexico have a distant Spanish and Native american ancestor...
* Just fot the record there was a lot of rape when the Spanish first came to Mexico and many latin countries, and was the main reason of many mestizos...thus the born of Mexico

[[WMG: Puerto Rico will be female]]
The island is usually referred to using feminine pronouns, both because of it's beauty (countries are usually referred to in a feminine way) and traditionally. I'm also betting on her being a loud BottleFairy who's related to Spain and America somehow.

[[WMG: The distant ancestors of the nation-tans...]]
...are both still alive, and are personifications of the various [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-chromosome_DNA_haplogroup genetic]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mitochondrial_DNA_haplogroup markers]] in the modern human population. The Y-chromosome-tans are all male, and the mitochondial DNA-tans are all female. Together, they gave rise to the earliest nation-tans, from which all others are descended. Of course, this also means that the first nation-tans were Y-chromosomal Adam and Mitochondrial Eve, denoting a common ancestor of we mortals and the nation-tans.

[[WMG: Wales was responsible for naming Canada and America.]]
Or, at least, partially responsible. It was established earlier that England had several older siblings, Wales among them. As well, we know that England likely names the North America Bros., due to both of them having Anglophone names (Alfred was King of England and Matthew was the name of the ship in which Cabot sailed to Newfoundland). However, if you go to [[LandOfMyFathersAndTheirSheep the page for Wales]]:

-->''"A lot of people in Wales are called '''Jones''', '''Williams''' or Davies..."''

Obviously, Wales was able to convince England to give America and Canada Welsh last names to go with their English first names. Makes you wonder which Commonwealth country is going to get the "Davies" surname...?

[[WMG: Central Asia hasn't been touched upon yet because...]]
In real world relations, The Baltics want nothing to do with Russia while Ukraine and Belarus are treated as being the same ethnic group as Russia. This translates easily into Hetalia with the former being scared shitless of him and the latter being his siblings. However, other ex-USSR countries like Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan would theoretically be on good terms with Russia (while not being related to him). Introducing them would possibly involve reworking Russia's character (or making retcons left and right) since he appears to not have any actual friends and any time we see Soviet!Russia, he's with only the Baltics.

[[WMG: England forgave New England for starting the American Revolution.]]
Assuming there is a New England character we haven't been introduced to yet. Evidence is in this quote from the website of the British Consulate in Boston:
"There is a strong relationship between the United Kingdom and New England, built on the wealth of our many historic, academic, business and cultural connections. But this relationship is also firmly based in the present, and a shared commitment to scientific innovation and technological advance. We are proud to promote British excellence in this dynamic part of the United States, working with New England's commercial, scientific and political communities to stimulate the exchange of ideas and the development of our common interests."
* This same sort of thing could be said for any of the original colonies, though. Virginia, for example, was exceedingly important to the British (economically, socially, governmentally, etc.), and was where the Revolutionary War was finally lost. For the exact reasons you've listed, they are also currently in very good standing with the United Kingdom. There would need to be more provided to say that "New England, as an individual, was forgiven" rather than "all the colonies were forgiven".
** That point is conceded. But the important thing to remember is that New England was the one that started it. The other colonies just participated. So it'd be simpler to forgive the other colonies, who could be seen to have just jumped on the bandwagon, than it is to forgive the young upstart that started the whole thing.
*** That's assuming, though, that the one who started it is the one who will be given more responsibility. That's often not the case. In WWI the Austro-Hungarians actually started the war, and the Germans were brought in because of their alliance. Guess who got more of the blame.

[[WMG: The Golden Horde might be one of Russia's autonomous republics.]]

[[WMG: Portugal will be confirmed as a girl in Volume 4.]]
The last time when Himaruya posted drafts of a Portugal, he seems to be leaning towards a female Portugal. Either the {{cool big sis}} type or the {{tomboy}} type.
* She'll probably be a CoolBigSis. And possibly one who has a ''smashing'' sense of humor.
** She'll probably be a CoolBigSis to England, as Portugal is England's oldest ally. The above AloofBigBrother relationship WMG with Spain likely still applies, regardless of Portugal's actual gender.
** A CoolBigSis or a LoveInterest, it all depends on how you look at the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Portuguese_Alliance Anglo-Portuguese Alliance]].
** She could also be a bit of a CoolBigSis to America, as the first neutral country to recognize his independence after the Revolution. They [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_%E2%80%93_United_States_relations still get on well today]]. (Second point with regards to England may also apply...)

[[WMG: Scotland has a beard.]]
Name ten Scottish men who don't.
* [[ComicallyMissingThePoint David Tennant, Gordon Brown, Kevin McKidd, John Barrowman, Alex Salmond, Angus Robertson, Ewan MacGregor, Bruce Crawford, John Swinney, and Keith Brown.]]
* My scottish brother in law, his two brothers, his father, one of his uncles, his best man, all three of his cousins, and one of his grandfathers; half of whom could grow a beard but prefer to be clean shaven. I met them all at the wedding. Heck I even have photos.

[[WMG: In reference to an earlier WMG...]]
The Colbert Nation is a real nation that has its own nation-tan - and that tan is Stephen Colbert.
[[WMG: The Confederate States of America would have his ahoge represent Roanoke, Virginia.]]

[[WMG: The British Isles are all female except for England.]]
Think about it, in Hetalia, who would see this coming?
* They've been referred to as England's brothers, and when asked about Scotland, Himaruya's speculations used the word "he". He speculated that Ireland could be female. However, nothing's really set in stone yet, so this is possible.

[[WMG: Wales is England's Canada.]]
As in, if anyone sees Wales, they assume they're England. I am English, and for a long time I honestly thought Wales was a region of England.
** Well, technically it ''was'' for some hundred years...
** I tend to think of Wales on the same terms as people use for the Confederacy. He comes out for a photo op once and a while, but for the most part he's locked in the basement and ignored.
** Alternate theory: ''Cornwall'' is England's Canada. To explain: the four parts of the United Kingdom are more separate then you'd expect. N. Ireland, Scotland and Wales all have "Regional Assemblies", which are mini-Parliaments that can call referendums and pass separate laws (although they still have to go by what England's Parliament says). Cornwall ''doesn't'' have one, but there is a ''huge'' push to have Cornwall as a separate region with its own RA and also to get Cornish listed as a separate nationality. I can picture Cornwall being England's pissy twin brother who is always getting confused for England. He's a lot bitchier about it, though, and flies into a rage when confused for England. As such, the other Brits try to keep him out of the spotlight. Instead of pancakes, he has pasties, and ''Heaven help you'' if you confuse him for England while he's ''drunk''...
*** As a cornish girl, I am in full support of this theory.

[[WMG: Where are Scotland, Wales and Ireland?]]
Scotland and Wales are fighting Ireland. I'm not the best at history, but I'm fairly sure the IRA (Irish Republican Army) started fighting for Ireland's independence just after or just before World War 2, and since they're still trying to get Northern Ireland today, (Granted, more peacefully) It makes sense to me that that would be where the other British nations are.
* I... can't see this. It's probably mainly my own headcanon, but I don't think Scotland would fight Ireland for going independent, when they threaten it so much themselves. Also, the UK and Ireland are not at war, and haven't been since Ireland gained independence. I can see some pretty heated arguments going on, but not constant fighting. Plus, I think most of Ireland's anger is probably aimed at England. I think they're just some of the many countries that haven't appeared yet.
* The successful Irish War of Independence (it wasn't the first one) was actually kickstarted during ''WWI'' (continued and finished afterwards), making this WMG possibly right but set in the wrong time. Scotland might have fought Ireland with an "if I can't leave you can't!" mentality. Ireland was neutral in WWII, though I like to think he/she did what some Irish soldiers did by pretending to be North Irish - there might be grudges but Ireland still cares about the family that's taking a beating. Scotland and Wales - and Cornwall if he's the last of the older brothers - are playing human. Scotland and Cornwall are with the army or the RAF while Wales is in military intelligence (apparently Welsh was used to develop spy codes like the US used Native American dialects). North Ireland is also either playing human with the RAF or is too young physically to fight and instead helps out on the home front.

[[WMG: Ireland is another one of those characters everyone thought was a different gender to what she actually was]]
Thereby rectifying the "Ireland will be female" with the "England was picked on by his four ''brothers''". Because to him, she was his brother, as he didn't know better. Everyone was probably somewhat embarrassed when they figured it out.

[[WMG: Berwick-Upon-Tweed has a tan.]]
Anyone else heard the legend of how Berwick was accidentally left out of the end of the Crimean War (A WAR WITH RUSSIA)? I would not leave something like that glory out. Also, with the disputes between Scotland and England over whose it actually is, it's difficult to have it any other way.
* This could go one of two ways, in my mind. Either Berwick-Upon-Tweed is an immense badass and would go after Russia if Russia ever came near him, or everyone forgot about him in that war, except for Russia. Both of these are the main choices I can see because they sound most like Hetalia's style to me.
* This troper's head canon is that the personification of Berwick-on-Tweed used to be the Anglo-Saxon kingdom of Bernicia (aka the northern part of Northumbria) who's been progressively demoted over the centuries and isn't happy about it.

[[WMG: Kazakhstan...]]
Is Russia's childhood friend, whose history goes something like this:
# Being begrudgingly annexed into Russia's house in the 1700's.
# Changing his entire way of life for Russia despite still fighting back against him.
# Letting Russia move his industries and citizens into his house during WWII and shouldering the Union's agricultural needs, while claiming he's going to leave for China.
# Staying in Russia's house longer than any other Soviet Republic and only leaving when Russia points it out.
Present day, Russia's military and economic cooperation with Kazakhstan is second only to Belarus among the former Soviets, and Kazakhstan gives Russia huge discounts on oil and gas. So why haven't we seen him yet? Because Russia's too confused by his {{Tsundere}}ness!

[[WMG: Fem!America isn't just America's female counterpart, she is/was the Confederacy.]]
She has the stereotypical flirty, ditzy Southern belle look, as well as GrayEyes (See types 4 and 5, not to mention the Confederate soldiers had grey uniforms) and it may just be the excess patriotism but Southerners refer to America as female a lot more than Northerners do. However, a notable thing in the way of this theory is the lack of [[{{Meganekko}} Texas.]]
* America is male, and has glasses to represent Texas. Femmerica does not wear glasses, but is very Well endowed. The conclusion? Her boobs are Texas.
* {{Jossed}}: she lives in another dimension with the rest of the Nyotalia girls.

[[WMG: Israel-tan will rise from the dead.]]
While a number of nations are clearly descended from ancient powers, Israel is the only example of a nation that has genuinely come back to life.
* That would be pretty cool, but it's probably more likely a new one was born (cf. Ancient Greece and Modern Greece). Although, actually, Poland also came back to life (albeit after a much shorter period of time), and he's still the original... so this would be a fair thing to happen.

[[WMG: Israel is the second oldest living nation with China taking first place]]
Probably not, Israel is a rather young country.
* But it's an incredibly old nation.
* Alternatively, Israel is a young -tan but there's another who represents Old Israel/Jewish Diaspora. Likely Modern Israel's older sibling or parent.

[[WMG: Rome raped Israel and got her pregnant with Palestine]]

[[WMG: America is secretly in love with Mexico]]

[[WMG: America is married to Puerto Rico]]

[[WMG: There are ''four'' USA-tans.]]
It's been said that the USA can be divided roughly in four areas, so here we go.
* Northern States: Alfred, of course! He won the American Civil War and so gets to represent the USA in world/G8 conferences.
* Southern States: Amelia Davies. She used to be the Confederacy of States, but then she lost the Civil War and was held as a prisoner. She made several escape attempts before finally being allowed out. She's racist and homophobic, but she's slowly getting over both.
* Hawaii: Ailana Kalula. She's a fairly cool person and quite friendly. She's also good at dancing, and is most likely black.
* Alaska: I can't think of a good first name for him, but the poor guy's surname is Braginski, as he's Russia, Ukraine and Belarus' little brother. He's scared of his siblings, but gets on OK with most other people. He can see Canada.
* They all live together, and have a sitcom-esque relationship.

[[WMG: The girls seen in [[http://i56.tinypic.com/312bbyb.jpg here]] with Rome are the female medditerranean and middleastern ancient civilizations.]]

[[WMG: Cyprus will be a [[BigBrotherBully Big Brother Bully]] towards TRNC and Russia will be his [[BigBrotherMentor Big Brother Mentor]]]]
If you did the research, Cyprus-TRNC relations aren't as great. Probably Cyprus will become Yandere to keep that "Peace" Stigma but secretly loathes TRNC and probably Turkey. Not only that, Russia and Cyprus have [[HeterosexualLifePartners REALLY]] [[JustFriends GOOD]] relations with each other.
* {{Jossed}} in the Drama CD

[[WMG: The former-Yugoslav nation-tans will appear soon.]]
It would start with their "big sister", the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Yugoslavia). She would take some of the younger nation-tans into her home and take care of their countries for them.

After sometime, the nations got fed up with their sister and began the Yugoslav wars. Of course they win, and Yugoslavia ends up dying (parallel to Grandpa Rome and going to country-heaven) or just disappearing for a long time.

[[BrotherSisterTeam Bosnia and Herzegovina]] will be twins or just siblings. [[ChivalrousPervert Croatia]] will be male and there will be some BelligerentSexualTension between him and female [[{{Tsundere}} Slovenia]]. [[WhoIsThisGuyAgain Montenegro]] will be male as well. [[AloofBigBrother Serbia]] and [[CuteShotaroBoy Kosovo]] will be brothers, with the former being the BigBrotherBully. [[SilkHidingSteel Macedonia]] will be female and [[BigBrotherWorship look up to]] her "big brother" Greece, who will [[BigBrotherBully tease]] her but nonetheless be [[BigBrotherInstinct supportive of her]]. Kosovo will prefer Macedonia being his sibling because she is much more supportive on his quest to be recognized as a full-fledged Nation-tan.

[[WMG: Ireland is a vampire with a split personality]]
* Ireland is a vampire, evidence for this; where was Bram Stoker from? Ireland, that's where! so it makes sense for Ireland to be a vampire. As for the split personality, my thinking for this is that Northern ireland (the guy that now represents it at least) is the original who wanted to stay as part of the UK whereas the Republic came into being as the bit that wanted out of the UK and as a result his Nyotalia seperated from him (therefore a split personality) and became the Republic so Northern Ireland is a boy and Republic of Ireland is a girl they're still the same person but they exist in separate bodies.

[[WMG: Venezuela and Colombia will be female]]
* Both countries are known for their beautiful women. Venezuela will be a [[TallDarkAndBishoujo drop-dead gorgeous]] woman, referencing the fact that most Miss Universe winners are from Venezuela. She will have a love/hate relationship with America, representing how both countries are known for their tense, yet somewhat cordial relationship, will be {{VitriolicBestBuds}} with her sister (Twin?) Colombia (Due to the fact that they were originally one country, so there's the old nostalgia, and the way both governments go from being besties to sworn enemies at the drop of a hat) and will have a {{NeverLiveItDown}} moment with Spain, because of that one moment when Spain's prime minister told Hugo Chavez to shut the hell up.
** Colombia is also quite beautiful and always dramatic and over-the-top, referencing the fact that the most successful soap operas are Colombian (the other nations think it's because she's always doing cocaine, though). She is always trying to catch up with the other, more developed nations but never quite reaching their status, and she has a sort of admiration/crush on the older and "wiser" America, although she sometimes can't really comprehend why she likes America in the first place ([[HopelessSuitor It is no more than a high school crush, though]]). She really, really likes her [[MustHaveCaffeine coffee]] and is always ready to party and have fun (referencing the tons of carnivals in the country), normally with Brazil.

[[WMG: If the states of the 13 Colonies get personifications, they will be older (physically) than America.]]

[[WMG: The three nations that is next to Vietnam and Thailand in Hetaween are Malayu,Laos and either Burma or Cambodia]]
* Cause they're definately not just simple human(Look at the man on the right outfit,same as Thailand)

[[WMG: Northern Ireland is England and Ireland's child.]]
Since NI's much more recent than they are, it makes more sense to this troper than NI being their sibling.
* But Himaruya doesn't really go for making characters other characters' children, except when the parent is dead. Plus, I'm fairly sure the settlers in Northern Ireland from Great Britain were more Scottish than English, so if they were someone's child, I don't see why it would be England.

[[WMG: Ireland once dated South Italy]]
* Explanation?
* It would be more likely that Ireland had a fling with Spain - he was helping him/her fend off England in the late 1500s/early 1600s, and maybe Romano had a crush.

[[WMG: Nevada looks like Molossia]]
The vast majority of the micronation-tans look like the nation they declared independence from. Sealand has England's hair and eyebrows, Wy and Hutt River have Australia's band-aid, eyebrows, and to an extent hair color, Seborga looks just like a third Italy brother, Kugelmugel has Austria's ahoge and eyes, Republic of NikoNiko looks more or less like a little version of Japan. Apart from Molossia, the only major exception to this trend is Ladonia, but he's largely internet-based anyway, which pretty much excuses him. Molossia looks absolutely nothing like America, so if this trend holds true, the tan for the state of Nevada will likely resemble Molossia.

[[WMG: Some ancestors of characters]]
* Gaul: Most likely female, probably the mother of France, as well as possibly Switzerland, Netherlands, and Belgium. She probably had France by Rome and Switzerland, Netherlands, and Belgium by Germania.
* Scandinavia: Ancient Scandinavia up until the fall of the Vikings, that is. Likely the reason why Iceland is Norway's brother rather than son. Most likely male, they're probably parent to the Nordic 5. Almost definitely sibling to Germania.
* Sápmi: Probably female, it seems likely she'd be Finland's mother, but since she still exists as a cultural region, she would, unlike other ancestors, still be alive. Jury's still out on what she thinks of her son's relationship with Sweden.
* Persia: Enemy to Ancient Greece and parent to the as-of-yet unmentioned Iran character. My guess would be male, though it could go either way.
* Anatolia: Turkey's ancestor. It seems unlikely they'd have a relationship with Ancient Greece as bad as Turkey's with modern Greece.
* Carthage: Rome has already mentioned them. Given that he said he gave Carthage a thorough beating as opposed to slept with them, Carthage likely was a man and an enemy to Rome.
* Kievan Rus': Ancestor (probably mother) to Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus. Probably a doting mother, and possibly a similar personality to Ukraine, with aspects of Russia. Also known as [[JustForPun Mother Russia.]]
* Hibernia: Ireland's ancestor, presumably father as Britannia has been stated to be mother to England and his old brothers. Britannia was definitely Ireland's mother, then. Probably Britannia's brother.
* Caledonia/Pict (No, not the aliens): Scotland's father and possibly Britannia's brother.
* Various Native American tribes: Unlike most others, I think that it seems unlikely there was a single Native America tan. More likely, there were tans for each tribe and two major tribes from the areas of the earliest permanent European colonies in modern America and Canada were the parents of America and Canada.
* Aztec: Ancestor to Mexico. Likely killed by Spain.
* Maya: Aztec's spouse, most likely, and another ancestor to Mexico. Likely either killed by Aztec or Spain.
* Byzantine Empire: Ancient Greece was referred to as the Byzantine Empire once, but that's not exactly historical canon, so it seems unlikely that they're the same person. While I would say that they might be Greece's father, that's not exactly history canon either, as they're separated from Ancient Greece by quite a while. But they might be a relative at least, and probably a brother or sister to Rome.
* Iberia/Hispania: Parent to Spain and Portugal, as well as the as-of-yet unmentioned Andorra character. I would guess they'd be male.
* Dacia: Ancestor of Bulgaria, Romania, and the other countries in that general part of Europe.

[[WMG: Himaruya might not make nation-tans for the rest of the UK and Ireland ]]
* Or at last not Scotland. If Himaruya bothers to check up on the fanbase, then he might know about the internal debate on the multiple fan representations of Scotland and how they are perceived. A good example is the Pixiv design of Scotland, which is either liked or hated for various reasons. For some it's a simple as just not liking the design. Others seem to think Scotland should be a middle aged man with large muscles and a beard who screams a lot due to this being one of the scottish stereotypes. Personally, I don't see the argument. The cast of Hetalia is made up of bishounen boys, so an extremely hairy Scotland would go against the consensus of the series. Most of the rest of the arguments mostly lie in his uniform design, and how uncreative some find it.
* As a result of all the different interpetations several designs for Scotland already exist in the fandom. Some guard their ideas more viciously than others. As a result I think Himaruya might avoid making Scotland and the rest of the UK, just to avoid starting some kind of flame war among his fans.
** Smart man.

[[WMG: Narrator Lady is Esperanto-tan.]]
Esperanto isn't a nation, it's a constructed language. Narrator Lady appears to consist of a disembodied voice. Makes sense to me.
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[[folder: Hidekaz Himaruya]]
!Hidekaz Himaruya
WMG regarding [[HidekazHimaruya the author]] of Manga/AxisPowersHetalia goes here.

[[WMG: Himaruya is ''[[FauxAffablyEvil VERY]]'' proud of himself.]]
Not only did he create an internet phenomenon, [[EstrogenBrigade he created hoards of]] [[GeekyTurnOn raging female fans]], practically teasing tons of people wanting to [[SailorEarth join in on the fun]], spawned ''countless'' [[MemeticMutation internet memes]] that will eventually rot our minds, [[BannedInChina and sparked a huge controversy]]. If you were a regular college New Yorker that simply made a webcomic and caused all this....[[ForTheEvulz wouldn't you be just absolutely euphoric?]]
* In other words, this is one of the biggest instances of trolling ever. Well played.

[[WMG: Hidekaz Himaruya is [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis in on the whole thing]].]]
If [[http://hetalia-kink.livejournal.com/11813.html?thread=34041125 this fic]] is any indication, he's one of the "scribes" observing the Nations since World War II. And he's using the knowledge learned as Japan's scribe to make the franchise. The catch is that they're ''supposed'' to be top secret. So he tweaks and waters down some details, passes his work as fiction and cover his tracks on the Internet. Even if he were to talk to another scribe about, say, Francis streaking during the ''Tour de France,'' none would be the wiser.
* On that note, so is [[ScandinaviaAndTheWorld humon.]] Only she's the "scribe" for the Nordics.
* Also, does anyone find it why there's next to ''nothing'' online on Himaruya himself (or at least pics of him)?
* On a second note, he's a capitol, and Japan tells him about meetings, stories, and such.

[[WMG: Himaruya is an [[http://community.livejournal.com/kitayumeverse/4346.html alpaca]]]]
* So... it's canon?

[[WMG: Himaruya is gay.]]
Hence the preference for {{Ho Yay}} in almost all of his works
* Perhaps his characters are based on the gay community he encountered in NY
* One rumor goes he had a Fujoshi upperclassman who would make him draw what she wanted, and after that he couldn't shake off the Fujoshi mindset.

[[WMG: Himaruya was conflicted on whether to make Canada or Mexico but chose Canada.]]
* He spent time in Canada, and got to know a lot of Canadians. Chances are, he doesn't know enough about Mexico yet to draw a Tan for it.

[[WMG: Himaruya will release one or two nations every year, most likely a principality and will reveal a big nation only when he needs to promote something.]]

[[WMG: Himaruya IS Estonia]]
Not an author avatar, but actually him. Eesti is watching the other nations and putting their antics in a webcomic ForTheLulz.
* [[http://community.livejournal.com/kitayumeverse/4346.html But Himaruya is an Alpaca..!]] Does that make Estonia an Alpaca as well?
** [[HiveMind We]] [[AssimilationPlot are]] [[MentalFusion all]] [[NightmareFuel Alpacas]].

[[WMG: Spain is Himaruya's favorite character]]
There's been so much of Spain in sketches on his blog and in the manga. Heck he was even the spokesperson for promoting book 3. Let's face it Himaruya is hot for Spain.
* There's been more Spain than usual as of late, but I don't think it comes close to how much he likes to deal with America and Japan.
* {{Jossed}}? He said his favorite character was Estonia for what I recall...
** If I remember correctly, he was making a joke about how the Estonia design looked just like him. I think the comment was more along the lines of how handsome he was than that Estonia was his favorite.
** [[http://hetalia.livejournal.com/11163171.html Volume 4.]] Estonia. [[spoiler: Nyotalia harem]]. That is all.

[[WMG: Himaruya works at a travel agency as his day job.]]

[[WMG: Himaruya intended to troll us with Hetalia from the very beginning.]]

[[WMG: "Hidekaz Himaruya" doesn't really exist.]]
Let me explain. Japan one day gets really bored and starts doing some doodles of his friends. On a whim, he decides to make little comics of them. When he shows the others, they all like them, and someone (probably America) dares him to make a webcomic out of it. Japan comes up with the pen name "Hidekaz Himruya", and even designs "Himaruya", making him look a bit like Estonia for a laugh.
Italy is the titular character because Japan is trying to hide the fact that he's the author - it'd be pretty obvious were Japan the main character - and the "hetare Italia" bit was a joke suggested by Germany that [[TheDitz Italy hasn't managed to get yet.]] He's careful to make fun of himself a bit, getting tips from the others on how they see his quirkiness. Of course, he can't resist giving himself oodles of ShipTease. [[BannedInChina South Korea gets a bit upset over it]], but other then that, the others ''love'' the little comics.
I mean, ''come on''. Who would know history better then someone who had seen it first-hand? I mean, Japan can directly access primary sources for all sorts of historical events, and recent history is no problem for him. He's also seen firsthand what world conferences and G8 meetings are like. He came up with the cover story of "Himaruya" having gone to America and met lots of people from other nationalities to explain "Himaruya"'s knowledge of stuff to do with other countries.

[[WMG: He won't make the Holocaust a KAWAII DESU YAOI FEST because he's not an asshole]]
Actually, this is pretty much confirmed in a way. He won't touch the Holocaust because there are just some things you can't DESU DESU up ever. I think he even said he wouldn't even go near the issue without serious consideration and with a very dark tone, and was rather disgusted by some of the holocaust yaoi popping up with Germany and Poland.
* Not that Hetalia is, per se, a KAWAII DESU YAOI FEST...

[[WMG: Himaruya is going to start doing more serious strips...]]
... about the nature of an implications of being a nation-tan.\\
Volume 4 included the strip [[http://www.hetarchive.net/scanlations/volume4.php?t06 ''A Bientot (Until we meet again)'']] We've had stuff on France's relationship with Jeanne d'Arc before, but... this felt different. I missed this strip at first, and when I saw it mentioned by others I assumed it was fanfiction. It really goes into the sad parts of being a country.\\
And then there was the micronations event. This might just be me, but the stuff on Nikko Nikko seemed to confirm the theory that nation-tans turn human when their country disappears. And he even included notes at the end about what generally happens when a country disappears and how some survive!\\
These two together make me wonder if Himaruya is starting to think more seriously about his series. I think he's still mainly do the jokes, but he seems to be touching on the more serious stuff more often lately. I think there might be a few guesses about the nature of the nations confirmed or jossed before too long.
* Confirmed? He actually completed the one where the soldier ask Frances about nations and the cons of being almost immortal.

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!The Axis
WMG regarding [[AxisPowersHetalia/TheAxis North Italy, Germany,and Japan ]].

[[WMG: NaziGermany is Germany's evil SplitPersonality.]]
[[index]]
* This could explain why Germany seems to be a pretty good guy most of the time, but was a total psychopath during WorldWarTwo. Both personalities share a lot of the same traits, but Nazi-Germany had no moral problem with the horrible things he did during the war. Then, post WWII, England, America, France and Russia brought him to a nation psychologist, who was able to get rid of Nazi-Germany for good. Yay!
** Germany was still the same no matter what during WorldWarTwo. It's just that he always followed orders no matter how disgusting or crazy he thought they were. So more of a case of JustFollowingOrders really.
*** Maybe it wasn't just that he had to obey his boss. Maybe he was also subject to the collective will of his people. Maybe nation-tans have much less free will than individuals do; as long as the majority of the people don't defy a dictator, the nation-tan can't defy him either.
**** If that were the case, Germany would have got the hell out of Dodge before 1939. Or did you forget the mass immigration from Germany at the time? It's what got Albert Einstein in the United States.
** The Nazis gained a lot of momentum when Germany was put through a period of poverty, humiliation, and starvation. Pretty good motivators to start following desperate (and awful) ideas, but even so it took a while to slip into depravity. This theory probably has more momentum in explaining how Germany could be oblivious to what was going on while simultaneously performing genocide; however, there's enough real issues that mental illness doesn't have to be resorted to.
*** Mental illness, or simply following the results of the obedience tests sociologists started undertaking shortly thereafter.
*** I stopped for a bit to consider the implications of Nazi Germany being a different person and here's what I came up with, run with me here: if Nazi Germany was a different person we can only assume that because he was unable to properly latch on to the population he would have died at the end of the war and the same would go for any other country who's had a schism. Now, if every such schism were to result in a new Nation-tan and that Nation-tan were to actually ''win'' then what would happen to the old one? He would become obsolete and die wouldn't he, and the new one would replace him but Nation-tans always seem to be the same person. Here's the point I'm getting at: the only way the new Nation-tan could rise to power is by doing away with the old one and assuming his position. This means that the France in the Chibitalia strips was not a ''younger'' version of the one in ''Bloodbath'', he was the ''original'' France. The modern-day France in ''Bloodbath'' is the Fifth Republic who at the very least is France Version 10. In short, if every faction was it's own Nation-tan then it's quite possible that the modern nations are just versions of the past ones, all with the exact same face. Kind of makes them seem a bit cruel doesn't it?...
*** But Germany taking orders from his boss and being oblivious to it is canon. Besides, tons of germans died too and Germany isn't missing, like, an arm or something else that's Nation-tan code for slaughtering a bunch of your own. I'd say he's acting as his nation as a whole, and when the majority is following Hitler he follows Hitler, though he definatley isn't eager to some stuff. That last part is canon too by the way, he's even called them "weird" a few times.

[[WMG: The two Italys are the [[SuperMarioBros Mario Brothers]]]]
Or rather, a shout-out to them. From Romano's POV, Veneziano is a total Mario with his RenaissanceMan skills at art and cooking. Romano is the Luigi and he hates it.
This would also make a great explanation of why there are two of them.
WMG/AxisPowersCharacters
* Except that there were two Italys in History.
** Your logic has no place on WMG.
WMG/AxisPowersHetaliaAlliesCharacters
* [[{{Series/SuperMarioWorld}} That's Mama Romano to you, Veneziano! *Wheeze*]]

[[WMG: Italy is [[BewareTheNiceOnes stronger than he looks.]]]]
''Potentially'' stronger, at least. Italy is too lazy to show that he ''can'' kick ass, which is why he never got up and fought till now.
WMG/AxisPowersHetaliaPrussia
* This theory is backed by one strip where young Italy decides [[ThisIsUnforgivable enough]] [[ItsPersonal is]] [[IFeelAngry enough]] and [[http://i40.tinypic.com/29ol451.png gives Turkey]] [[LetsGetDangerous a flying kick to the face]].
WMG/AxisPowersHetaliaOtherNations
* Confirmed by WordOfGod. Italy isn't physically weak, but the enemy is scary and pasta is delicious, and there's a pretty girl over there.
** There is also the strip of Italy looking serious at the battle of Custoza when he fights against Austria
WMG/AxisPowersHetaliaOtherCharacters
* Did no one remember that IRL, Italy is the country most associated with ''the mafia''?
** Well, technically it's Romano that is involved with the mafia.
** Mafia ≠ military strength, in any case.

[[WMG: Holy Roman Empire becomes Germany when he grows up and forgets about his childhood when this happens.]]
The dissolving of the empire brought him to lose his memory. After its fall, the Holy Roman Empire dissolved into several parts; but the 'original' HRE became Germany. Because he became Germany, he lost all his memories as HRE. HRE didn't divide into Ludwig and Gilbert because Gilbert existed long before. Also, HRE and Germany look similar. This is not just to make the TearJerker less heartbreaking.
WMG/AxisPowersHetaliaHetaliaverse
* There is a good fanart entry in the livejournal community about this where HRE lost his memory after being "Napoleon'd". [[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/474207.html Here it is.]]
WMG/AxisPowersHetaliaFutureNations
* [[{{HSQ}} Holy Shit!]] Possibly '''confirmed''' [[spoiler: at the end of]] [[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/787290.html#cutid1 this strip]]. Let us all {{Squee}} now.
* Alternatively, HRE did divide into a lot of countries, but the Germany we know in the later eras is the almagation of these (He has Prussia living in/with him somewhere, then?). He won't get his memories back until and unless he can amalgamate all the former HRE countries, which will coincide with the apex of Axis Power in WW2.
* Historical support for this theory is that the Pope had crowned Charlemagne, a German, as the Holy Roman Emperor.
* This theory has spawned at least one [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5677669/1/The_Boy_Who_Couldnt_Grow fanfic]].
* Perhaps once Germany admitted to himself that he might actually care for Italy his memories became unblocked.
* History even goes so far as to give us the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Germany Kingdom of Germany]] that grew out of the earlier state of the East Franks (East Francia). However, Austria was shown to be the one in charge during that era (which [[FanNickname I like to refer to]] Hetalia-wise as [[IncrediblyLamePun "Bosstria"]]). By that logic, HRE as we knew him in Hetalia was likely the actual state of East Francia/Kingdom of Germany. When The HRE was formed, this Kingdom took on the role of Empire, but with Austria being the guy running the show (the HRE was, for the most part, controlled from Vienna by the Hapsburgs). He would later call himself "The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation", merging both concepts. Since most people wouldn't have known about this, it stands to reason that pretty much everybody only knew him as HRE and never knew of his previous name. Thus, no one took notice when "Germany" made his (re)entrance on the European scene (this time, with Prussia pulling the strings). This also allows Germany to survive despite [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/etc.html the statement by France in that one side-comic]] where he said that HRE "is no more" (scroll down to see it). He said nothing about ''Ludwig'' (or about actual death, for that matter, but that might just be the translation). Also, Italy's a grade-A ditz. He likely wouldn't recognize the clues even if they were pointed right out to him. Oddly enough, The Kingdom of Germany exists in roughly the same area as "West Germany", adding to the theory. There's also no reason why the "amalgamation" theory also couldn't fit into this: while HRE was the Kingdom of Germany, maybe modern Germany is the Kingdom of Germany after he took over and merged with the other states that came to exist, in a sort of re-unification?
* More teasing from the movie. While there were several cutaways throughout the movie, most of them had some plot relevance or included a joke. All except one that happens after Italy runs away and Germany can't go after him. Then, we are given a few seconds of Chibitalia and HRE saying each other's names. Nothing else happens, and it comes at an emotional moment between Germany and Italy. Really, how else are we supposed to take this?
* [[http://i.imgur.com/2T4lB.jpg This strip]] (found the link on this wiki - can anyone confirm its official placement?) shows Holy Rome trying to assert authority over his bickering Germanic states, demanding that they take turns speaking. We first meet Germany when...he's asserting authority over a bunch of bickering nations, demanding that they take turns speaking, although the more-robust Germany manages to do so without [[BloodFromTheMouth bleeding from the mouth]]. Either Germany started the way he meant to go on, or there's an awful lot of GenerationXerox among the nations.

[[WMG:Russia and Germany are related via [[{{Anime/Monster}} Johan.]]]]
Johan is German, blond, a creep with no conscience, a StepfordSmiler, and sadistic. Johan and Anna are Russia and Germany's love children, and either countries or normal people. Johan had his father's looks and Mother Russia's creepiness; Anna got her father's 'good' personality. Also, the flashback is a lie; Anna and Johan were given away to their 'mother' because Russia and Germany weren't ready to come out of the closet.
* Not ready? [[HoYay This is Hetalia]]!
** Maybe it was more of a brief fling that both sides regretted afterward and therefore don't like to talk about. Of course the LawOfInverseFertility had to kick in and result in Johan and Anna.

[[WMG: The characters are not actually the personifications of different countries, but rather some drunken College roommates who decided to reenact history for the hell of it.]]

[[WMG:Japan is the one who's {{tsundere}} for Korea]]
... possibly due to being a recovering {{yandere}}. When they were younger, he got into fights with Korea, raided his vital regions, and tried to make him be one with him; now he overcompensates by denying it entirely. He secretly keeps a stack of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_wave Korean Wave]] products - along with a copy of that drawing of them playing together.
* Japan even let Korea grope him once.
* It wasn't just when he was younger. Japan was occupying/oppressing Korea until the World Wars were over, and there are still people in Japan who don't consider Korea an independent nation (needless to say, relations between the two are awful). And it's not just their stint in Korea that they deny, Japan has a 'don't talk about it' stance on a lot of their less savory history.

[[WMG: North Italy's incompetence can be blamed on the Italian unification.]]
* South Italy's territory has been more or less the same since the end of the Roman Empire (he's basically Kingdom of Sicily/Naples/Two Sicilies who gained the territory of the Papal States, but they didn't fully merge - the Papal States still exists as the Vatican City). North Italy, however, is the result of a [[FusionDance merging]] of Republic of Venice, Kingdom of Sardinia, Grand Duchy of Tuscany, Duchy of Modena, Duchy of Parma, and others. Canon has shown that the Republic of Venice was capable of kicking ass as a child. We've seen nothing of the rest of the north Italian states, however. It's likely that Sardinia & Co. we're incompetent cowards, and when they merged with Venice to form Italia Veneziano, the ''hetare'' of the many overpowered the BadAss of the one.
** Romano was always a crybaby, though.
** And he's incompetent because Spain spoiled him rotten and allowed him to basically do nothing of value, which allowed him to grow into a whiny, useless adult.

[[WMG: Germany isn't the only one with memory problems]]
It's already been stated that Germany may or may not be the Holy Roman Empire with memory loss. But Italy seems to have his share of missing memories as well. In particular, he seemed to really love the HRE and promised to wait for him forever, but in the modern strips, Italy seems to have no recollection of that promise. Or maybe he just instinctively senses that Germany is HRE?
* I don't think he's neglecting it, with Germany at least... Italy's not flirting with Germany (we've seen Italy flirt with women before, and it doesn't look like what he does with Germany). Italy seems to just be a kind of goofy/touchy-feel-y personality with his friends; like one of those people who's a flirt without realizing it, simply because they're big on contact (he probably just refrains with Japan because of the initial reaction, whereas Germany is willing to play along). [[spoiler: Italy, as seen in the Valentine comic, doesn't seem to be aware of his effect on Germany; in that even when presented with the other's feelings he can't understand what caused them. It's also probably due a lot to his being oblivious to cultural differences (such as red roses, and Valentine gifts at all, being only for serious lovers in Germany). Italy, there, makes several adamant decrees of love to Germany simply because he doesn't know what sorts of signals he's sending out; and likewise Germany misinterprets because he (despite his best efforts) doesn't understand the more lighthearted intentions that were behind them. Austria seems better attuned to Italy's culture; as he, when described the relationship which he initially deemed to be sexual (constant kissing, hugging, and sleeping naked together), quickly recanted his first statement when he realized that Germany was speaking about Italy. It stands to reason, as Austria spent a significantly greater amount of time with Italy than Germany (or HRE, for that matter) did.]] Or, going a slightly different way, maybe Italy's saving love/his virginity for HRE, but not denying himself anything beyond that? I'm more well-acquainted with literature than anything else, so I can only say that such a belief occurs quite frequently there at least. It wouldn't surprise me if it were also a common trait for anime.
* Well Italy ''definitely'' remembers HRE at least (he says outright to Germany that his first love was another boy [[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/735352.html]] it's about halfway down the page maybe?).
* [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/etc.html There]] is a scraped bit of strip showing France telling a grown Italy that HRE is dead and that he should forget about him. (Scroll down to see it.) By time he meets Germany he would be well aware that his first love is long gone so flirting with other people isn't all that strange.
** I propose that EVERYONE has memory problems. If a nation goes through a major shift, then they change and lose memories of ever being different. This is illustrated in Raven Tears,(see Hetalia FanFicRecs, General, towards the very bottom of that section) where Canada and America used to be darker, but as the land got taken over by Britain and France, they started looking more European, forgetting their own mother, and Canada started speaking only french and America started speaking only English (this is especially sad to me, because that means that they ''might not even know that they are brothers''.)and that sort of thing used to be very, very common when there were still land wars, but in more modern times this specific type of amnesia doesn't affect anyone anymore, due to borders being kind of set in stone. France and England used to be Gaul and [whatever the British isles were before but I suck at history and don't know] and they can't remember. In the finale, it will be the end of time and everyone will remember everything. (I should probably put that as its own WMG)

[[WMG: England and Germany are related]]
Via Germania. Basically, England was first called England by the Anglo-Saxons who were Germanic, having invaded Britain after the Roman army abandoned it and at least partly ousted the native population. Arthur came into existence at the same time, eventually replacing his mother Britannia. Obviously, while he gets his hair color from Germania the eyebrows are from his mother's side. As for exactly what this makes them (cousins? half-siblings?) I'm not entirely sure.
* England might also be the Italys' cousin, if Britannia (aka Roman Britain) was a new individual and not just the nation-tan of the original Celtic island with a change of name and stuck in Rome's house.
* Well, English is classified as a Germanic language, so it makes sense that there was some intermingling of blood along the way.
** English ''is'' a Germanic language. It's just that it had a healthy dose of French, Latin, and (believe it or not) mathematics that make it seem like it's something else.
*** You're leaving out a fair helping of Greek as well as whatever bits and pieces it finds useful from any other languages. I refers to English as the "cannibal language" for a reason.
* If they aren't related, their royalty certainly is. The only reason we now have the House of Windsor was because dear [[KingBobTheNth King George V]] decided Saxe-Coburg and Gotha (which is Sachsen-Coburg und Gotha in German) was not a good name to have during the start of World War I, in which England and Germany were on opposite sides. So basically King George V gave a [[RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething royal "f*ck you"]] to his [[BigScrewedUpFamily cousin, Kaiser Wilhelm II]], who was then king of Prussia and Germany at the time.
* Going along with England being related to Germany via Germania, couldn't France also be related to them, seeing as how originally France was inhabited by the Franks after the fall of Rome, the Franks being a Germanic tribe. It's also called the "Frankish Kingdom" about the time of Charlemagne; I have no idea how to explain French being a Romanesque language.
** Well, prior to the Franks moving into the area, it was called Gaul and was populated largely by Celts. It was conquered by Julius Ceasar some time in the 1st century B.C.E., and the Gauls over time adopted the Latin language as their own. When the Franks overran that area, their own language influenced the development of the modern French language but did not change the largely Latin roots. It's really quite similar to how Latin had an influence on English but could not change that it is, at its core, Germanic.
* This troper has a crack theory. Ancient Britain/Britannia hated Rome's guts, but she, like her child(ren), was an alcoholic. She once got drunk with Rome. Nine months later, a tsundere with huge eyebrows was born. YES, ENGLAND IS THE ITALIES' UNCLE! Of course, this theory is total crack and should not be taken seriously.

[[WMG:After WorldWarTwo, Germany became TheAtoner.]]
He felt absolutely ''terrible'' for the things his "[[AdolfHitler crazy boss]]" made him do. He wanted to atone so much that he let America in to comfort him after almost being destroyed (i.e., Marshall Plan), and he also does not [[NoSwastikas like being reminded of the time period in which he was coerced into doing all that horrible stuff]].
* Seems to be proven in the first episode of the anime. Germany distinctly said that there wouldn't be any talking about the war.
** He only says anything to that effect in the dub.
* Not so much anymore. Germany is moving towards a much more self-oriented stance than its had in the past few decades, and even actively trying to get rid of the non-Germans (or at least non-German culture) in the country.
** Er, ''no''?
*** [[http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9ITKQ8G0&show_article=1 Actually...]] [[http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,14983040,00.html?maca=en-rss-en-all-1573-rdf It's only]] [[http://www.boston.com/business/articles/2011/04/13/skilled_turkish_immigrants_leaving_germany/ doing so well at integration]]. [[http://www.roubini.com/analysis/119108.php And attitudes about where they fit into Europe are changing from the older generations.]]

[[WMG: Japan is a HaremSeeker.]]
Think about it. He's had HoYay with almost ''half'' of the [[LoadsandLoadsofCharacters cast]]. He's [[XanatosGambit manipulating]] the other nation-tans into becoming part of his harem.
** He had already Taiwan and both Koreas in his harem, so why not add China and Manchuria on the list?

[[WMG: In the episode where Italy was thrown out the window by Germany, and was thrown back with a leaf on his head, Prussia threw Italy back.]]
Because Prussia wears a leaf on his head just like that, and Italy seems impressionable.
* Prussia had a leaf caught in his hair because he'd been hiding in the bushes while spying on Austria, and that's the only reason and only time it happened.

[[WMG: The strip where Japan doesn't recognize Lithuania refers, at least in part, to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiune_Sugihara Chiune Sugihara]].]]
[[http://aph.starry-sky.com/grc2.html See here]]. Lithuania mentions that "You really helped us out before." While stationed in the Japanese Consulate in Lithuania, Sugihara issued thousands of visas to Jewish refugees, a large number of which were Polish (hence explaining Lithuania's plural), but his heroism went unrecognized in his home country for decades. Hence, Japan has no idea what Lithuania's talking about.

[[WMG: Germany is Sweden and Norway's son]]
Well the theory is that after the time Norway finally forfeited to be in a personal union with Sweden via [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_of_Moss Convention of Moss]], Norway unwittingly bore the personification of the German Confederation around the time with Sweden. Mostly linked with dates of the Convention (August 14, 1814) to the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_of_Vienna Congress of Vienna (June 8-9, 1815)]] to roughly coincide with a human pregnancy. At the earliest date of conception, Germany would have been a late term pregnancy. This is a pretty convincing theory if the one with "Germany is The Holy Roman Empire" and [[MisterSeahorse male pregnancy]] implication with Norway was disregared (unless GenderBending [[AWizardDidIt was somehow]] [[FirstLawOfGenderBending implemented]]). [[http://blog-imgs-17-origin.fc2.com/h/i/m/himaruya/nagurenai.jpg It doesn't help that Little!Germany]] [[http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/images/hetalia/8/82/YoungSweden_Finland.jpg looks a lot like Sweden...]]

[[WMG: HRE and Germany are not the same person at all, except they have the same body.]]
Prussia somehow manage to find HRE's dead body, and make it into the Germany we have now. (I guess we can say the 'soul' is different? )
* This can also explain why Germany met Italy for the first time in WWI battle field, despite the two countries were allies before the war: Prussia deliberately arrange so, to avoid North Italy seeing a young Germany who was identical to Holy Roman Empire.

[[WMG: Hitler imprisoned Germany in the concentration camps.]]
Hear me out. If it comes to it I don't think that Germany would agree that much with what his boss did and maybe eventually join the resistance, getting caught, and knowing that he couldn't kill his nation he imprisoned him instead.
* Personally, I go with the theory that nation-tans don't know everything that their bosses get up to. I do agree that Germany does not seem like the kind of person who would go along with what was happening. And although I've never seen this before, I've seen stories where Prussia was imprisoned (usually without his brother's knowledge).

[[WMG: Germany=HRE, and Prussia, Austria and Hungary are the only ones who know.]]
Basically, Germany/HRE is found by Prussia after the dismantling of the HRE by Napoleon. Prussia thinks "I'll just see how he is", but when Prussia discovers that G/HRE has no memories, he decides to adopt him as his little brother. He never tells Germany the truth, because there are a lot of people who'd be interested in finding and possibly hurting HRE. Everyone just assumes that HRE is dead (including Italy).

Hungary, Austria and Prussia are, of course, friends. When Hungary and Austria first see Chibigermany, they shit a brick as they recognise him. They demand an explanation from Prussia, who explains and asks them to help him protect Germany. They agree (Austria figuring that it'd be too much trouble if Germany knew, and Hungary recognising the possibilities of a happy reunion between Veneziano and Germany) and so Germany grew up with no knowledge of where he came from.

However, this won't last. Germany can tell that something's not quite right - he keeps having flashbacks, and he was older then most nations at his "birth"/first memory. He'll eventually ask Prussia what his deal is. As there's really no reason for anyone to want to hurt HRE/Germany any more, Prussia shows him a crate full of his old stuff, including the underwear/broom. The Underwear/broom that Chibitalia gave to HRE so that HRE could be reminded of Chibitalia, which will turn out to be a ChekhovsGun as Germany's memories return. Cue ''epic-level freak-out'' from Germany as all his feelings for Italy come back in a rush.

Hungary, upon finding out, will go and get Italy, saying "Germany has something to tell you!" What follows will be a tearful and happy reunion between the two, along with one super-happy YaoiFangirl Hungarian and one ''seriously'' pissed off South Italian.

[[WMG: Italy is photosensitive.]]
He always keeps his eyes closed because he can't stand bright light. This could be due to just having weak eyes, or it could be due to something that happened when he was Chibitalia. This is supported by the fact that the only two times that he's ever shown with them open (in the anime, at least) is for a moment in the first episode, which took place indoors, so he wouldn't have as much of a problem compared to direct sunlight, and in the latest (possibly last) episode, which was shown to be very cloudy and maybe about to rain. He probably got used to doing things with his eyes closed a very long time ago. The other Italians, like Romano and Seborga, could also have this issue, but not to the extent that Veneziano has.

[[WMG:During WWII there were was more than one Germany.]]
* There's all sorts of WMG about Germany having split personalities or not knowing what was happening in himself. My theory is that there was a ''Nazi'' Germany. A [[KidsAreCruel small child]] nation in a SS uniform, blond haired and blue eyed, possibly being brought up by Hitler. Germany knew about this, was aware that as the child grew he would die. The other nations may have smothered Nazi, or Hitler did before he killed himself.

[[WMG:Japan's thing for NaughtyTentacles ...]]
* ... came about because of incidents in his youth with [[HPLovecraft R'lyeh-tan]].

[[WMG:Germany is [[LegendofZelda Link]]]].
* He has blond hair and blue eyes like Link's many incarnations and "link" is German for "left". But the main reason is because it would be really cool.

[[WMG:Japan is clinically depressed.]]
Think about it; he's always going on about how old he feels, while China is much older (and Korea might be older too, anon's not sure) but still acts young. Feeling tired all the time, being reclusive ({{Hikikomori}} for ''two hundred years)'', rarely expressing emotion ...

[[WMG:Germany has yet to comprehend that he is a Nazi.]]
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[[folder:Allies Characters]]
!Allied Forces
WMG regarding [[AxisPowersHetalia/JusticeDestinyStrikeFreedom America, England, Russia, France, and China]]

[[WMG:America gets his FriendToAllLivingThings trait from Native America.]]
Native Americans are usually shown to be more connected with nature and usually have a NonHumanSidekick. This carried over to Colonial America. So even though he might do things that harm the environment, animals still flock to him.
* [[http://kitkatoreo.deviantart.com/art/Mamas-and-their-Children-125725941 Played with]] in one piece of fanart that showed America's and Canada's potential mother.
** Only that Alfred isn't descended from Native Americans any more than Canada is, the two come from the European colonists who settled in North America. There is a Native American-Tan, and chances are he lives on a reservation right now while America has run of the rest of the country. Eskimo-Tan, Inuit-Tan, etc., would be in their respective states/provinces/territories, they wouldn't be either Canada or America.
*** Alternately, Canada and America could have originated from the Norsemen who first made their way to the North American continent in the 11th century. Could help explain why little America looked a lot like Finland.
**** Norsemen are still European...
*** Perhaps the nations of the Americas are descended from Native America(s?), but have been raised so long by the Europeans that they've been assimilated? I don't know about America, but In Canada, we have a decent-sized population of Native groups that have adopted French and English culture.
**** Wouldn't it make more sense that those native groups are represented by the Native-Tan?
**** Perhaps America and Canada were born to a Native America, and then were stolen from her when they were still young, and their white skin, blonde hair and blue eyes were omens that they would be raised by Europeans. They were too young to remember her when they were taken away, and England (or whoever was taking care of them at the time) raised them to believe that she's just a crazy savage who used to live there, and is of no relation to them.

[[WMG: America is an ancestor of Indiana Jones]]
Indy and his father's line descends from one of Alfred's early "adventures" in courtship. It explains the otherwise daring, brash and headstrong attitude of the explorer. It probably also helped in letting Indy into government secrets in the events leading up to Crystal Skull, and shows how he can survive a ride in a nuclear fridge. (C'mon, you know the scene)

[[WMG: England was in a mode of UnstoppableRage as well as OneManArmy in the last scene of TheAmericanRevolution.]]
He didn't seem to have any soldiers with him, so he was fighting on his own. America had SuperStrength, but England knocked his gun right out of his hands.
* It's hard to know where to correct this one first. The English were one of the most powerful military units at the time, and the American victory (miraculous as it was) had more to do with the benefits of guerrilla warfare than with SuperStrength. By the point the scene took place, the interest in continuing to fight to hold the colonies had waned. The English had pulled most of their forces, and a large number of loyalists had fled the country, so the fighting would have been with small numbers on the English side anyway. That doesn't mean that the English were any less of a fighting force, or that England was weaker than America, just that the motivation to continue the aggression was all but gone.
** You might be misunderstanding a bit. In that particular scene England is shown by himself, without any soldiers. America however, had at least 20 guys standing behind him, guns all pointed at England. America has been shown being able to swing a wildabeast around by the tail at 4 at the oldest. England knocks the gun out of his hands like it's nothing.
*** It's not a misunderstanding. England's lack of men represented a lack of interest by the British people in holding the colony, not the strength of the colonists (it was a war won by luck and coincidence, more than anything). Had the British come at full force, they could have slaughtered the colonists.
*** We're talking about the characters in the scene, not the context about the real world that it's representing.

[[WMG: The American Revolution psychologically broke England to the point that he refuses to go through the strain of another war with his colonies ever again.]]
England spoiled America rotten, only to be rewarded with America's "betrayal." The strain of trying to persuade America to return to him and then failing and having to deal with the fact that his former ward is now a grown country in his own right thoroughly broke him. As a result, England has given his former colonies freedom more peacefully than any other former imperialist power. As soon as they prove that they can be mature nations willing to solve things in a non-violent way, he will stop trying to persuade them to stay because he cannot and will not suffer through the strain of a revolution again. He was too deeply traumatized by his history with his former favorite "brother," America.
* Except that England didn't give up most of his territories until he was forced to by treaties surrounding the World Wars, and in cultures like India he was oppressive from beginning to end. The reason the American Revolution happened was because a peaceful solution simply couldn't be reached (despite both party's attempts), and the reason it ended was because England didn't have the time, money, or interest to continue trying to hold the colony when he had issues like fighting France on the European front. It wasn't that he mentally broke, nor is it unlikely that he would have gone to war with another territory if the same situation had occurred.
* Well, he managed to be involved in a three-year guerrilla War of Independence with Ireland after WW1, and Ireland was part of the British Empire for much longer than America, so he can't have been that broken. Mind you, he refused to admit it was a war, so YourMileageMayVary on that one...
** Isn't Ireland one of England's actual brothers? They've apparently never gotten along at all, since the brothers would drive England off with rocks and arrows when he was a child (and sent [send?] curses in the mail). If anything, the Irish War of Independence would be a brotherly spat that escalated to that point. England raised America and was betrayed. I think the feel of the two different wars would be completely different if Ireland and the other brothers get portrayed in the future.
* But England was still colonising after America. Although there's the fact that Australia was colonised to replace America (direct quote from the Other Wiki "Following the loss of the American Colonies after the American War of Independence 1775-1783, Great Britain needed to find alternative land for a new British colony. Australia was chosen for settlement, and colonisation began in 1788." ) so take from that what you will. Regardless, there were also other colonies like Antigua and Barbuda, Bangladesh, Jamaica, and others that have tried to revolt against England as well, except he cracked down on his other colonies to stop any revolutions breaking out. Also, I believe it was just before 1960 but he also had a war with Cyprus when Cyprus had wanted to go back to living with Greece, and England only backed out of that war because Greece and Turkey FINALLY agreed (on something) that they didn't want England having Cyprus. I know this isn't the same as the relation between England and America, but certainly it does show he didn't just back down after that one war. In my opinion, England probably only hardened after the Revolutionary War with America, because he hadn't wanted another nation to get that close to him and hurt him again once they betrayed him. Yes, he did let his other colonies have Independence gradually and peacefully, but only after he tried everything else to oppress the smaller ones until he had no option but to give it to them or go to war (and no one wanted that after the World Wars). There were also many other factors involved, which you'd have to look up when the first British Dominions came about to actually understand these factors.

[[WMG: Similarly, China is avoiding Korea to avoid the heartbreak Japan gave him.]]
Think about it. Korea is as close, if not closer, to China as Japan once was, but China seems to shun him all the time. Even though it's plainly obvious Korea's being annoying out of affection. Think about it - if being close to Japan nearly killed him, China obviously wouldn't want to go near Korea...
** The Chinese and Koreans don't like each other, but they've become significantly closer allies because of their hatred of Japan. China tends to side with Korea, if given the option.

[[WMG: England represents only Britain, but stands in for the rest of the UK at world meetings.]]
As in, Wales, Scotland and Ireland (or Northern Ireland, depending on the time period) all exist as their own people who are constantly heckling England, but they never get to show up at world meetings. Which is weird when it comes to Ireland in modern times because it is it's own country now.
* Ireland probably has his or her own spot at the world meetings now. North Ireland is likely a child embroiled in a custody battle.
* ...you meant it the other way around, no? Britain = the UK. Great Britain: England, Scotland and Wales. England = England. In any case, Ireland used to be its own country before being conquered by England, so it's more than possible that he was there all along, with Scotland and Wales, it's just that in those times there were no world meetings.
* Not a theory, it's already canon. WordOfGod says that Arthur is England, but he represents the UK at meetings because his brothers get too rowdy. Ireland is its own country, and would represent itself.

[[WMG: Conversely, America inherited his looks from one of the Nordic countries. Canada may also apply.]]
While it's still debatable, many scholars do agree that the Nordics were likely the first outsiders to set foot in the North American continent. And in the "Fight for America" strips, there was a panel possibly hinting that America and Finland shared a resemblance to each other. And given Canada and America's physical similarities, it's likely they have the same Nordic origins.
* Considering how there has been evidence found for [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Anse_aux_Meadows early Viking settlements in Canada that predate Columbus by a few hundred years]], having America and Canada descended from the early Nordic warriors wouldn't be that much of a stretch.
** Columbus' landing had nothing to do with either America or Canada. [[http://www.mrnussbaum.com/explorers/columbusroute.gif He dind't land anywhere near them.]] It more has to do with the eventual Spanish domination of South America than anything.
* Didn't it say somewhere that America got looks from Germanic heritage? It would make sense, with how much of the population and culture can boast it, but am I remembering incorrectly?
** It didn't say anything about his looks, just that he mixed with a lot of Germanic blood. It's probably just in reference to German-American being the biggest ethnic group in the US. Chibi-America still looked like non-chibi-America, anyway, before he got more German settlers.
*** But that depends on whether something like immigration can alter a nation's personal appearance. The US population is becoming increasingly Hispanic/Latino, so does that mean America could, theoretically, look like a Latino in the future?
* In the Christmas Bloodbath 2010, Finland tells America he can think of him as his father, because "You've got some genes from my people". I think Himaruya is definitely leaning towards this.
** I just pictured a family photo with Finland, Sweden, Sealand, America and Canada. It's actually a fairly cute image.

[[WMG:England used to have several more siblings]]
Or at the least several more people living in his house. Prior to the Norman Conquest, England was made up of several kingdoms which didn't really get along all that well, ergo Arthur had a bigger family and there was a lot of sibling rivalry. What happened after the kingdoms were all merged into one is uncertain; either they're still in England's house like Prussia's still in Germany's, or, more likely, they ceased to exist, which might explain why England took America ditching him so hard (losing most of your family is going to leave you a little fragile, even after several centuries).
* Lets see, the Heptarchy was made up of seven kingdoms,Northumbria, Mercia, East Anglia, Essex, Kent, Sussex and Wessex, although Northumbria itself was made up of two kingdoms, Deira and Bernicia, and there was another seven or so smaller kingdoms/sub-kingdoms. Add in the rest of the British Isles and you've got a really big family which based on history suffered from a serious case of sibling rivalry.
* Given that the word 'England' was first used long after the Anglo-Saxon kingdoms came into being, they were probably his older siblings, who depending on which kingdom had the most power at the time took turns raising England after their mother died until they ceased to exist round about the time of the Norman Conquest (some might have gone before then) and kiddie England went from being the fought over and possibly much loved baby of a large, unruly and frankly somewhat dysfunctional family to being on his own apart from three surviving siblings (Scotland, Wales and Ireland) who didn't like him. Poor Arthur.
* Well, most things were made up of multiple parts; what became Germany was made up of 39 different states after the HRE collapsed. What happened to them is really up to how small of a body fans want to mandate a Nation-Tan require. Most say that once a culture stops recognizing them, they die; so chances are a great deal of them are dead. But then there are others who say that there are those that change into regions (in the way that states for the US become personified), so depending on how you read the canon some might still be alive...
** Hmm, good point. Let's see, Wessex no longer exists in any capacity so he's a goner. Kent managed to survive more or less intact, territory wise, so they might still be hanging around, although I don't know if they fit the culture requirement. Speaking of which, given the fact that northeners consider themselves separate from southeners, at least one or two of the Northumbrias might still be hanging in there, although on the other hand they got put through the wringer more then the others because of the whole Danelaw thing. Gah, this whole thing's getting the better of me. If I could draw properly I'd probably be drawing the various personifications in question by now.
*** Seeing as how Alfred the Great and his descendants, being the kings of Wessex, were the ones to unite England as a Kingdom, maybe England ''is'' Wessex. Or at least his immediate Successor. Seeing as how Mercia was the predominant kingdom of the Heptarchy, based in central England, Iggy could have started out life as him (the rulers of Mercia often took the title "Bretwalda", meaning "Britain Wielder", roughly meaning "High King of Britain/England"). Alternatively, England is the result of an amalgamated Wessex and Mercia (definitely them, but possibly including some of the other kingdoms) merged into a single kingdom. Supporting this is the fact that Alfred allowed the Mercians to keep some of their autonomy, rather than outright annexing them to Wessex. This, combined with his patronage of vernacular Old English and a focus on unification, would have caused Wessex, Mercia, and the others to be subsumed into a larger English identity.
**** The term 'bretwalda' wasn't just applied to the Mercian kings, it was used to refer to the king of whichever kingdom held the most power, something which, given that the Anglo-Saxon period was basically a series of brawls, changed rather frequently. The first one to really earn the title was Edwin of Northumbria. Not that it really matters, just thought I'd provide some free education. Incidently, out of the Hepetarchy the Northumbria brothers are the ones who are most likely to still be around.
* I like to imagine England killed most of his siblings, just for the amusing mental image of him and some of the other nations sitting around drinking tea and calmly discussing the days when this was normal. BewareTheNiceOnes.

[[WMG:Evgeni Plushenko is actually Russia in disguise.]]
* You've gotta admit, [[http://i34.tinypic.com/11lsqyf.jpg the resemblance]] [[http://tinypic.com/r/fbdus2/4 is uncanny]].

Alternatively...

[[WMG:In accordance with the theory that nation-tans exist, Plushenko is a clone of Russia.]]
* Not content with the [[TheGreatPoliticsMessUp Cold War]] simply being over and done with, Russia decided to continue the confrontation on another front--namely, professional figure skating. Plushenko was cloned, educated, and trained as the world's first potentially superhuman figure skater, having been cloned from Russia's body so that he would develop all the optimal traits of the Russian people but also be saner.
** Plushenko's performance at the Vancouver Olympics exposed a few flaws in the cloning technology, allowing Russia's [[{{Yandere}} original personality]] to leak through in the event of a loss or breakdown.
* Or, if the whole gods/demigods WMG is true, Plushenko is really Russia's son.
** Which would mean that nations can have kids with humans. Hmm. This requires further thought.

[[WMG: Alfred is Multilingual]]
* [[http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/00/Census-2000-Data-Top-US-Ancestries-by-County-1396x955.png Case in point]] (Better data is [[http://www.census.gov/compendia/statab/cats/population/ancestry_language_spoken_at_home.html available here]] for download). When you're talking the United States, you're fairly hard pressed to find not only a culture that isn't represented, but isn't represented in bulk. It stands to reason that, with the settlers concentrating more strongly from these two areas than others, Alfred would most likely be fluent in Spanish and German. If we're going to make smaller regions a representation of the whole, he'd also have French, Chinese, Russian, and Italian (and others) under his belt.
** Or, at least, he had them at one point. Alfred isn't exactly known for being the most culturally aware, and it could be that he took them all and assimilated them as quickly as possible so that he could stick with what he already knew. With Hispanic immigration as high as it is, though, there's at least one he can't avoid...
** I'd have to disagree with this theory. Not only for one does it go against America's personality (his world map is only of North America, thus I doubt he'd actually realise that there are languages other than English or the common language that all the nations use to talk to each other) but also Americans are not exactly known for being culturally accepting. Not meaning to insult any Americans here, but most of the world does see (or at least stereotype) the American populace as being ignorant of other cultures. As Hetalia is playing off that stereotype, making America Multi-lingual would throw off the ignorant stereotype he's portraying. Also, when studying Linguistics (hence a link can't be supplied if anyone wishes to see for themselves), we were given statistics of the percentages of the three main English dominate speaking nations (Britain, America and Australia) and on a "national" (meaning how many people in the nation they got to do the survey) scale only 41-2% spoke a language other than English. This shows a surprisingly low amount of bilinguals living in America, although it is very culturally diverse. In comparison, in the less culturally diverse nation of Britain, 86% spoke a language other than English. This doesn't support America being a multi-lingual if someone like England - who sees smaller immigration rates per year (America sees 2.92 immigrants per 1,000 people, whereas the UK as a whole sees 2.17 immigrants per 1,000 people according to this site = [[http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/imm_net_mig_rat-immigration-net-migration-rate#definition]]) - has double the amount of citizens who speak more than one language. Also, America has not federally established any Multicultural Policies, despite other Western nations like Canada, Argentina, the UK, Netherlands, Australia (despite not being in the West is still counted), and most other nations in central Europe have done so. Going to the other Wiki, and looking up "Multiculturalism" then scrolling down to the section about the US will reinstate this, and also mention that there's a prominent national myth about going to the US and having one's culture assimilated into the American culture. Statistically and just on the basis of stereotyping, there is too low a chance of America being multilingual - if Himaruya does bring multilingualism in the US up at all, then my best bet would be as a side note, rather than an actual depiction of it in the series itself.
* Alternatively America is multilingual but is unaware of it and can only speak other languages with his people, thinking that he's just speaking different dialects. This Troper read a very good fanfic working off this theory.
** In terms of linguistics, that'd be one hell of a stretch. If nothing else, keeping a sentence agreeable in gender is quite a new experience for English speakers (and that's hardly scratching the surface of the differences between English and everything else). That he could switch into something else when speaking to, let's say, his Spanish-speaking population (the roughly 30 million of them) without realizing it was something beyond dialect isn't really possible. Even for Alfred.
*** Especially now, with all the arguments of English vs. Spanish, he's well aware.

[[WMG: Canada is Multilingual]]
* If America, who prefers the 'melting pot' approach to culture, is multilingual, (He may very well speak Spanish or German.) then Canada most certainly speaks languages other than English and French. These would include Chinese, Portuguese, Punjabi, Spanish, Italian and Ukrainian, as well as First Nations' languages, almost all of which are preserved, and many are still taught in schools.

[[WMG: America is CaptainAmerica]]
Kind of obvious really.
* Would relate to the Black Panther is the Nation-tan of Wakanda theory above. The identity of Steve Rogers was invented as a cover-up so nobody would suspect the very personification of America would be doing something so risky as to fight alongside his own men. The super-soldier formula never truly existed and and was conveniently "lost" after being used on "Steve Rogers." On one hand, it kept the Germans on their toes knowing that America had found a way to create super soldiers, and on the other, allowed and explanation for Captain America's powers. During the Cold War, he was placed in Cold Storage and temporarily replaced as Captain America by somebody else to keep him safe in case Russia decided to fire his nukes or something. He was later taken out of storage and now operates a double identity both as Alfred the nation and Steve Rogers the superhero because he's "The Hero."
** He bugged every director he could find, and he finally did it. He got a movie made about himself.

[[WMG: France had stronger genes than England.]]
All of England's colonies have his giant eyebrows except for America, Canada, and Seychelles who were also French colonies.
** Those with English eyebrows are those who were English to begin with. Those with French characteristics started as French colonies. And, in the case of America, he was born before France and England arrived, so he has neither of their genes in him.
*** When you say English to begin with, do you mean colonised by England first? Because the British were the first colonisers in New Zealand, but New Zealand doesn't have the eyebrows. If you meant it as claimed by England first, then how does that explain Australia having the eyebrows when he was first claimed by the Dutch, French, Spanish, Russians, etc before the British decided to just go there and colonise anyway? Also there's the native Indigenous peoples of these countries, which are arguably the first settlers of these nations before the Europeans even came around. Sorry, I'm just not seeing your point clearly because I'm not sure what you meant by it exactly.
*** I think what the OP meant was that Britain's culture was the dominant one - which, as this part-Australian troper attests, is fairly accurate. And New Zealand does have the eyebrows.

[[WMG: China is [[DroppedaBridgetonHim secretly a girl]].]]
Think about it. Women are constantly portrayed as being "weaker" in China, and when the bosses found out that their nation-tan was female, they forced her to hide her gender and pretend to be a guy. And besides, PLEASE tell me I wasn't the only one who thought China was a girl when I first saw him? >.>
** Given that China's seiyuu had roles occasionally dropping bridgets on other people, this come at no surprise.
** Oh, I would really like this to be true, but it would ruin the tension!
** If China was secretly a girl, it seems doubtful that [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/files/gosya.gif he would ever take off his shirt in front of anyone else]], even if - or ''especially'' if - it was another nation. Also, when he turns around a little in the link, he appears to lack female breasts. (Sorry, Korea.)
* Sort of impossible, but it would explain Hong Kong. Daddy!England and Mommy!China?
** It occurred to this troper while watching the episode where China meets Baby!Japan that...well, China has [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_binding very small feet.]] Although, obviously after the 2010 Bloodbath and that cute Mandarin dress, China's got to a be a guy...or seriously flat chested.
* This troper likes to think that he went through a gender-swaped version of what I like to call Hungarian Gender Confusion-that is, ([[{{CaptainObvious}} as the name implies,]]) when [[{{DroppedABridgetOnHim}} one drops a Bridget on]] ''[[{{DroppedABridgetOnHim}} themselves.]]''

[[WMG: China's panda is named Peter, and lives in Seattle. Oh, and did we mention [[PhineasandFerb he's a secret agent?]]]]

[[WMG: England lied about his height.]]
By now it's pretty obvious that he's not as tall as France and there's a lot more than just 2 cm between him and America. Knowing how self-conscious he can be, it's more than possible that he lied to make people think he's taller. (Let's just conveniently forget about the fact that Himaruya writes him.)
* To England and France, historically, them being of different heights in actuality but not in number is a very real possibility. There was a good period of time in which the English measuring system and the French one were different, with the French feet slightly larger (which is why we get myths such as Napoleon being very short). I can't think of an explanation for America, so it could be very well that he maintains this due to his self-consciousness.

[[WMG: If Nantucket is America's cowlick, then the rest of his hair is the Corn Belt.]]
It makes sense. Corn is milky yellow/golden, and so is America's hair.
* I always thought of the corn belt as his digestive system, personally.

[[WMG: [[PsychopathicManchild Russia]] and [[NaiveEverygirl Ukraine]] are [[SitcomArchnemesis France x England]] [[ShipperOnDeck shippers]].]]
See [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruktime this]]. No reason, just RuleOfFunny.

[[WMG: America is a post-op female-to-male transsexual.]]
Florida [[TheSimpsons is America's wang]] but was not one of the original 13 colonies. So America must not have been born with a wang.
* He was always referred to as male, though, long before he even attempted to a acquire Florida.
** Everyone (in-universe) referred to Italy as a girl before finding out (even Italy), and they also thought Hungary was a boy. Clearly nation-tans are a bad judge of gender.
*** Italy never said he was a girl, as far as I know. Heck, he even almost reveals his true gender to HRE in that strip about [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/kmn.html his dream meeting Japan]], not to mention getting all flustered and allowing Hungary to go bathe before him in [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/hnsan.html Hungary-san and her Maiden's Heart]] and then in another strip showing no concern [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/mz.html about getting nude and swimming with HRE]]. Not to mention that even though Austria thought was female and thus bought him dresses and such, he was technically raised by his granddad Rome along with Romano, and I'd sure as hell hope that he'd know his own grandson's gender. Of course, I could always be missing out on something (like an official statement by Himaruya, for example) but there hasn't been any indication that Italy was "gender-confused".
*** True, but the logic to make him female originally is faulty, and asserting literal gender change moves well beyond mistake. The theory is saying that expansion would mean body parts would be added for each gained territory, and that makes no sense especially in context of characters like America who expanded from about 375 thousand miles to almost 4 million. That, and it suggests that for a character to be male they need a phallic body of land, which is again in contrast to the series which makes genitalia (male or female) an important region rather than a suggestive one.
*** Three things; One- It was kind of a joke theory anyway, for some reason my joke theories (regardless of fandom) are always taken dead seriously and nitpicked even when (I think) it should be obvious it's a joke. Two- I'd say making two islands someone's nipples is a little on the suggestive side, although admittedly not on the level of what I'm suggesting would be. Three- I'm not saying that a nation-tan needs a suggestive geographic feature to be a particular gender, I'm saying that if a nation-tan is already particular gender and has a suggestive geographic feature that correlates to that gender there may be a relation. This theory came from fridge logic related to that.
*** Joke theories don't work when they're no more ridiculous than the normal ones...

[[WMG: America is kept in the dark about what his government does.]]
When America goes to visit Japan, it seems like he's oblivious about what his boss actually wants and is really just there to befriend Japan and some whales. Also, the anime episode that introduces Tony properly pretty much has a MoodWhiplash when America's boss tells him that it wasn't a UFO but a fallen weather balloon. The colors are extremely dark, and his boss practically says "shut up, stop bothering us." And right after that scene, Tony comes up to America and befriends him. With the personality that America has, it could explain why he pretends he can't read the atmosphere - if he read the atmosphere his politicians gave off all the time, he'd get depressed and paranoid.
* We've already seen this same thing with Germany, Japan, and the Italys, and it's been shown that the Nation-Tans will be allowed to cry, scream, and eventually be hit if they don't agree. I'm pretty sure that's how it is for everyone: they don't get so much explanations as orders for what they're supposed to do. In the same way, they never seem to be consulted about what they'd feel towards a certain action before they have to carry it out.
** As if there weren't already enough reasons to dislike politicians.

[[WMG: A nation-tan in the style of America is one of the unidentified people in ''The Situation Room''.]]
For reference, that's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Situation_Room_(photograph) a well-known photograph]] of high-ranking government officials receiving live updates of the operation to kill Osama bin Laden. Obviously the Alfred F. Jones we know isn't in there because someone would have noticed by now if there were a set of people with the same names as the nation-tans who also resembled them, but multiple fics have portrayed the American government as explaining Alfred's presence by his being a security expert of some kind, which would fit very well with this situation. My money would be on the guy they call "John".

[[WMG: Russia actually has a friend]]
Not a relative, not someone who happens to share the same political system, not someone he's intimidated into submission, but an actual friend. Said friend is Australia, according to an Hetalia-verse interpretation of [[http://tinyurl.com/28288am this]], and before you ask, yes, the fandom knows about this (well some of them anyway) and there have been a couple of fics but for once they've managed to keep things platonic, well so far anyway.
* For some reason, the idea of Russia being friends with the land of EverythingTryingToKillYou seems weirdly fitting.
** From the AussiesWithArtillery page, regarding why invading Australia is a bad idea: "It's like Russia. In Russia if you invade you can keep marching until you freeze to death. Invade North West Australia and you can keep marching until you die of heatstroke." They have things in common!
*** Russians were also guests of honor in Australia for many years. Australians once let Russian visitors survey the land of Port Jackson and Botany bay ''including Military Fortifications which did not raise any eyebrows with Australians at the time'' (Though for the Brits and the rest of Europe it caused a RedScare) and the city of Darwin was owned by the USSR for three days due to communication problems.
* If India is ever created he or she might be good friends with Russia, or might be someone that Russia is quite protective of as is more in character for him and also historically canon.
* Ireland is another possibility, though they might have had a falling out by now due to Ireland apparently supporting Georgia in the fairly recent conflict between Russia and Georgia. But since Russia (well, the USSR) was the first nation to recognize Ireland as an independent country, I could see that being the basis for a good relationship between the -tans.
* France. Around the time Russia began being exposed to European influence under Peter the Great, Russians (aristocrats especially) showed a fascination in France. Dressing like the French and speaking it was apparently the cool thing to do. Just as well, the communist party was apparently very strong in France in 1946, later joining NATO in 1949. Even after joining there was apparently higher sympathy towards the communists in France than there was the U.K. or the U.S..
** Also, when in the episode where Russia after a meeting reveals his fantasies of deforming the other Allies' faces to France. If this troper remembers correctly, Russia repeatedly refers to "them" rather than "you all", allowing one to wonder if Russia likes France more than the others.

[[WMG: China is narrating the entire thing from the Future.]]
Since Yuki Kaida is the narrator, suppose that China is using "his" real voice as the narrator many years into the future and Hetalia is one big nostalgic flashback to happy times before humanity launched into space and all the nations got separated.
** Alternately because Kaida also voices Taiwan, it may also be the case that Taiwan is narrating the thing from the Future as well.
*** Jossed in the dub, where China's voice actress is not the Narrator.

[[WMG: England is scared that Sealand will become the next America]]
England doted on America, and got his heart broken for it. Remembering this, when a new nation-tan appeared that was clearly his little brother, his knee jerk response was to do exactly the opposite of what he'd done with America, and declare this person was nothing to do with him. However, this had the result of Sealand declaring himself a country. England, by now, had recognised this ''was'' his little brother, but decided he didn't want him to become a country because if he did he may end up like America, more powerful than England, and it would mean England would lose another sibling, and so works against Sealand being recognised by other countries.\\
He realised, of course, that Sealand hated him, and is trying to get him to like him, which is why in strips he's always trying to convince him to come to his house. He secretly quite likes the fact that he has to help Sealand out sometimes, as it stops him from cutting England off entirely.\\
This is supported by the strip where he has a nightmare that Sealand grows up. Even if just thought Sealand was being an idiot, calling himself a country, he'd hardly have nightmares about it. Also, the fact that Sealand suddenly becomes taller than him is reminiscent of the strip where he says goodbye to a small America, comes back a short time later, and finds America is now taller than him.\\
England does love Sealand really, he just doesn't want to admit it. His reaction of horror to seeing Sealand had put himself up for sale on the internet could quite easily be seen as fear for what his little brother could be getting himself into.
** I think England might love Sealand just a little more if he'd stop shooting at his commercial fishing already.

[[WMG: Russia is a ''WarriorCats'' fan.]]
''WarriorCats'' is ''very'' popular in Russia, having translated super editions and field guides that most other countries never bothered with. So surely the character himself would enjoy it as well, no? He probably likes it for all the FamilyUnfriendlyViolence.
** Russia appreciating the violence makes even more sense when you consider the covers that the Russian publishers use. AmericanKirbyIsHardcore might as well be renamed [[AmericanKirbyIsHardcore Russian Warriors Is Hardcore]].
** Come to think of it, China seems to like the series a lot, too.
*** Bit of a misconception there: The books that everyone believes are from China are actually published in Taiwan. The Simplified Chinese translation, which is published in China, only goes up to the first series, so Taiwan is likely a much bigger fan. This also raises the possibility of Russia and Taiwan secretly being obsessed with England, being the ''Warriors'' authors' home country.
** Official list of nations who have at least encountered ''Warriors'': America, Canada, England, Taiwan, Japan, China, Russia, Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Finland, Slovenia, Turkey, the Czech Republic, Korea, Hungary, Vietnam, and France. Germany, too, seems to be particularly fond of the books.

[[WMG: England is a big fan of cars.]]
And secretly, he's [[TopGear The Stig]]. Some say he's an immortal representative of England...
* So England is Ben Collins?
** Well, no, but there is speculation that there's more than one Stig, right? England can't ''always'' have time to do this secret side-job, so he lets Ben Collins fill in for him and throw everybody off his trail. After all, a proper English gentleman doesn't recklessly drive really fast cars.

[[WMG: Alfred really gets around]]
The states. To get them America had to make a lot of treaties and such.
* Spain gave America his Florida.
* We didn't even need the states to make [[ActionHero that assumption]]. America [[PatrioticFervor "Fuck Yeah!"]] Jones!
[[WMG: France's sexual "reputation" was spurred by Jeanne d'Arc's death and the Revolution]]
There may have been a point where Francis would have had something akin to a decently ''sane'' love life. And it's likely that his relationship with St. Joan would have been genuinely one of love, if not for her burning at the stake. After that, he couldn't take is as seriously for fear of losing another partner. Then came Marie Antoinette and the French Revolution...
* The French have always been thought of as sex-hounds, though.
* WordofGod says France had completely forgotten about Joan of Arc until Napoleon mentioned her, and there's no reason to assume he was any closer to Marie Antoinette than he was any of his other queens.
** A recent strip seems to suggest otherwise.
*** Which is hilarious because the French people blamed Marie Antoinette, an Austrian Princess, for running their finances into the ground, which inevitably started [[LaResistance the French Revolution]].

[[WMG: Muscovy (ur-Russia? USSR-tan?) gained control of the other Soviet countries by killing them and eating their hearts, or at least some physical symbol of their essence.]]
Whether this is [[PsychopathicManchild because]] Russia is CuteAndPsycho or ([[RussianGuySuffersMost one of the reasons]]) [[BreakTheCutie why]] Russia is CuteAndPsycho has yet to be determined.
* It definitely ''sounds'' like something Russia would do. At the very least, I could see him doing it as a symbolic gesture, to the utter horror of any nation-tan who witnessed the act or heard about it later.

[[WMG: China was born / first appeared sometime during the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Sovereigns_and_Five_Emperors Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors]] Period, or between that period and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xia_Dynasty Xia Dynasty]] period.]]
Logically, this seems like the best bet. China is often mentioned as being [[OlderThanTheyLook approximately 4000 years old]]. This fits pretty well with the traditional chronology of Chinese history, where the Xia Dynasty was supposedly established in roughly 2100 BC, having been born out of the earlier "''San-huang wu-ti''"[[hottip:*:We'll use this term in the future, since its ''way'' easier to write than the full name "Three Sovereigns and Five Emperors Period".]], which has [[ShroudedInMyth many elements of]] [[TheTimeOfMyths older mythological and cultural traditions]], and roughly ends somewhere around 2000 BC. Considering the fact that it was a very long time ago, and there's lots we don't know about those periods (much of it comes from oral, later written, and archaeological sources), its not at all surprising that these periods overlap.

Now then: China, like many nations, likely appeared as a small child when a form of cultural and national identity appeared among the people living in this region. This may have happened during the end of the "''San-huang wu-ti''", as it eased into the Xia Dynasty Period. He may have been "found" by one of his earliest bosses, and brought to live in the courts with the most important members of their society. China's growth probably mirrored [[http://img842.imageshack.us/img842/8710/italygrowthandhistoryhi.jpg Italy's]] over the intervening centuries, with "Chibi China" representing the late "''San-huang wu-ti''" and early Xia, older kid China during the later Xia Dynasty and the Shang Period, young teen China during the Zhou Dynasty (likely the Western Zhou Period), and his older teen form during the Eastern Zhou (known to us as the "Spring and Autumn Period" and later the more famous "Warring States Period"). This would be when he was truly maturing as a nation, and began seeing himself as the "Middle Kingdom". He would fully mature into his adult form upon the accession of Qin Shi Huang as the first emperor of Imperial China, under the "Qin Dynasty". This would mark a turning point in his life, being that it was founded around 221 BC (when he was roughly 2000 years old). From this point on, after being unified under the Qin (and later the Han), China began acting as a "Big Brother" figure to the other East Asian nations. Japan is, after all, first mentioned by the Chinese in the "Book of Han" (a collection of writings detailing the later Han period). He would not, however, begin taking serious lessons from China until after he meets Korea and begins borrowing culture and knowledge from them later in the 1st millennium AD.

Addendum: During the early history of China, such as during his "chibi" days and the Warring States Period, there may have been "rival" Chinas. These small states, if they had any regional identity, would have had to have been either killed by or absorbed into China, possibly helping to facilitate his growth. However, it is unlikely that any rival states appeared during later periods of unrest. By the time of the Three Kingdoms, or the Southern Song, the idea of "One China" had long since been established. Any rulers of rival kingdoms saw themselves as contenders to the Mandate of Heaven, not the founders of their own national states. Thus, China merely suffered from the fatigue of civil war, or possible split-personality disorder at worst. The reason there is a Hong Kong and Taiwan is because Hong Kong existed as a British colony for many years, has a fusion of Chinese culture and British Colonial society as his background, and is treated as a special zone in China (Macau may also exist as a Portuguese equivalent). Taiwan, meanwhile, had its own indigenous cultures which still exist on may parts of the island. This, on top of having a similar experience with Japan as Hong Kong had with Britain, as well as merely being settled and Sinicized rather than an inherent part of China's boundaries (remember, the ROC government is merely hosted in Taiwan, considering itself rightful ruler of all China. Many Taiwanese are fine with independence, as well). This is why a Tibet- and Mongolia-tan also exist.
* Given how the Warring States all had their own identity which were retained by their successor provinces, they could have just been China's older siblings who passed on their skills and personality and currently live in his house as retired nations. The reason that China doesn't remember his first dynasties very well was because he almost died during the Warring States period and thus experienced memory problems when he was re-unified.
** So his memory problems could be similar to those following the HRE=Germany theory... interesting.... Of course, for all we know, the other Chinese siblings may have in fact [[AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence moved up in the cosmic ranks]]... and have become China's ''Dragon''! Also, his memory loss could be due to the book burnings that took place when the first Dynasty of the Imperial China came about. Shi Huangdi didn't want there to be any history that preceded him, after all.

[[WMG: Russia was originally just his own capital Moscow.]]
Russia as Muscovy had to fight with other Russian states like Novgorod for the dominance of the Russian lands. As these states fell, he incorporated them to his territory, which later he was known as Russia.
* It goes without saying that this is pretty much history canon. It would also explain, along with the Mongol Hordes, why Russia is as completely insane and dangerous as he is.

[[WMG: England was at one point married to Queen Elizabeth I.]]
It's historical canon. She stated that she was married to her country. Bring that to its logical conclusion, and...
* I've seen several fics with this pairing. Really, it was just too good to pass up.

[[WMG: Although they may arguably not be particularly close or talk to each other much, Japan is aware of Canada's existence.]]
Just look at the sheer amount of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sister_cities_in_Canada Sister Cities]] they seem to share, especially in northern Japan (particularly Hokkaido). One search command will get you at least 37 by my computer's count. They haven't had enough interaction to be sure about this, but even the countries aware of Canada can forget him from time to time, such as at the G8. It would also make sense, since a guy as observant as Japan who hangs out with America so much would pick up on the differences between the two North American brothers.

[[WMG: The "F." in America/Alfred F. Jones's name comes from:]]
Make your guesses!
* '''F'''reedom!
* '''F'''uck England!
* It's a reference to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_E._Neuman Alfred E. Neuman]]!
* '''F'''uck yeah!
* '''F'''ernandez
* '''F'''rance/Francis made him add it as payment for helping him in TheAmericanRevolution!
** It's probably reference to Alfred E Neuman, [[http://hetalia.shoutwiki.com/wiki/America#Name as said on his page]] but troper considers it either Francis or Franklin. TheOtherWiki also said that the 'F' is for JohnFKennedy.
*** Odds are, the Alfred comes from the ship, Jones comes from one or all of the Jones mentioned, and "F" stands for ''ALL'' of the above, that way the fans can choose which one they like most and stick with it. On another note, I like how one possible explanation for Alfred is the ''USS Alfred'', since it fits with Canada's name coming from the ''Matthew''.
* WordOfGod says about this:
-->'''What does the F stand for?'''
-->According to my first note, it seems like Foster.
-->But I wrote a lot around it, like Franklin and F*ck,
-->''the mystery of F deepens and deepens...''

[[WMG: The 2010 Christmas Bloodbath, when all the nations are trying to find some secret mark on their bodies for a reason that boils down to [[ItMakesSenseInContext strip-or-the-world-blows-up]] and they wind up trying to strip Russia...]]
They are actually gang-raping him. I mean, Russia occupies the Woobie role extraordinarily well throughout the special. And if you ask a Russian this is historically accurate.
** ''Owch.'' Yes, Russia is TheWoobie, but way to ruin [[CrowningMomentOfFunny the]] [[DefeatMeansFriendship mood]] of those strips.

[[WMG: America was named after his mother.]]
This troper thinks America was a Indian tribe that was the original representation of the country and Spain named America. Later, for some reason, England named her son after her. That's why America has a girly name.
** History disagrees with you very much, my friend; the name 'America' is based of the Latin form of the masculine name 'Amerigo.' Plus, the name was coined by a German.
[[WMG: america and canada are the sons of finland and some native america tribe]]

[[WMG: England is the biological father of America. He just didn't realize it when they first met.]]
This troper find it to be a HUGE PlotHole to believe a European baby could suddenly appear in a country of people that look nothing like him. Besides, had it not been for the English, the USA would be far different then what it is now!
* There's no PlotHole. Europeans were colonizing, and because of that a new Tan was born.
** On the other point, England didn't father America. America was running around before England even showed up on the continent (that's canon). Because of the original settlers in his territory his lineage is, in fact, Nordic (regardless of which colony believed to have founded him, they all pretty much came from the same area). England's contribution was to colonize effectively, which allowed America to age up, but it had nothing to do with his birth.
*** Their official connection is 'brother' as well, so...
**** Alternatively, all of England's insistence that he's their parent [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace_Arch leads Canada and America to tease him.]]
***** Except England is ''not'' and has never claimed to be their parent. Guys, remember to check the actual manga sometimes.
****** It was a joke, geez.

[[WMG: England is Germania's bastard son.]]
If his siblings are Ireland, Scotland, and Wales, it raises the question of why he's the only non-Celt in the family. Since that part of Britain wasn't really England before the Angles and Saxons took over, it's the only answer that makes sense.
* There is some proof of continued Celtic influence on English culture, as well as there having been the (now mostly extinct) Cornish and Cumbric languages. So it could be possible that England is Germania's bastard son with an earlier Celtic nation-tan. Alternatively, England is in fact Celtic by birth, but has become one of the Germanic family through adoption similar to America (this could have also happened to Prussia, a Baltic state that became Germanized).
** I'm inclined to go with the adoption theory, because, as said, we know that Scotland and Wales, at least, are his brothers, and Himaruya has never given any indication that he may be related to Germany. We could really do with knowing when England actually appeared; whether it was after the country was established or if he just got a name change when that happened.

[[WMG: For a brief and very sad period in history, America/Alfred would have misconstrued some instructions from his boss and wound up calling France/Francis "Freedom". France was very pleased as he is rather [[IncrediblyLamePun free with his hands]].]]
I nearly insisted on referring to a certain very important revolution as the "Freedom Revolution" in my European history class...which would have been [[CrossestheLineTwice really quite accurate]].

[[WMG: America is {{Stephen Colbert}}]]
Or rather, Stephen Colbert is America in disguise. Or maybe not in disguise. Because, let's be honest, it just makes sense. He's even admitted it before. He wrote a book about it.
* And so can we. (Everyone can be America.)

[[WMG: England's tattoo represents Liverpool]]
In his version of Marukaite Chikyuu England says "my tattoo really hurts, but it's a hot six string!" Considering we've had birthmarks, nipples, idiot hairs and glasses representing specific places, I think this probably does too. And I think [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Liverpool Liverpool is a likely candidate]].

[[WMG: England is both England and the UK]]
He has a split personality that gradually developed as he unified with his siblings. He may have some control over which personality takes over at which times, but considering the general British stereotypes are those of the English, they're probably quite similar anyway. In fact, it's quite possible most people wouldn't notice if the personality were to switch while he was with them. Possibly, he never actually told any of the other nations, and when he demands they call him Britain rather than England they just assume he's saying that's who he's representing.
* Himayura has stated that while he and his brothers act as the UK, England is the one who represents them as a whole in the meetings. Or something like that.
** It's because his brothers are too rowdy, but you're right. With how much people take pride and identify themselves as Scottish, Welsh, and Irish, they're definitely still alive. It would be interesting, though, to see the state of his brothers (since England has so much power in the UK, and even strips which take place in the Isles never show the others).
*** Sorry, I didn't explain the guess properly. The theory doesn't mean the other UK nations are ''dead''; rather, it's based on an idea I've come across where the UK as a whole has a personification ''as well as'' the individual contries within it. That applies here, except that the UK is a split personality of England, rather than a completely separate person, based on the aforementioned stereotypes thing, and the fact that English people are more likely to identify themselves as British than people from the rest of Britain. Also, that many people seem to think 'England' and 'Britain' are interchangeable. Really, no matter how rowdy they are, I think England would have difficulty convincing Scotland in particular to let him represent all of them. If the other UK nations knew that the person representing them was actually the UK, it might go down a bit better, as that person ''would'' represent all of them. Although the other nations thinking they were talking to England might still cause some issue...
**** With the clarification, this theory makes sense. I'd think that the other Tans might not know he's still England, though. Consider that, after the point the nations united, everything became known as British with who had been England as the head. Everybody, after not seeing his brothers as much if at all, might just figure he'd gone through a very-common name change.

[[WMG: The real reason why Russia always wears his scarf is...]]
C'mon, let us hear your ideas!
* He uses it to cover a nasty scar on his neck.
* It reminds him of the warmer memories of his childhood.
* It's keeping his head on. He was actually decapitated at some point and somehow managed to survive (well, if he can survive his heart falling out...) but he doesn't want to alarm the other nations.
* It's canon (or, at least, he says it's canon) that it's a body part and he literally cannot take it off.
** {{Jossed}} He is shown without it in the first volume of the manga [[http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/507/meeting02copiazv5.jpg]]
*** I'm just repeating what Russia, himself, said. The quote about him not being able to remove it comes from the CD's, though, so comes down to exactly what level of canon you consider them.
*** And just how reliable you consider Russia's word to be...
* He's Russia and he can do what he wants.
** (Referring to the above Body Part theory) It's a removeable erogenous zone. And whenever someone touches it, he gets all nice and dere like in the strip where Lithuania [[TastesLikeDiabetes falls asleep on his shoulder and they talk about their dreams.]]
*** But he's not wearing it in the first few minutes of paint it white...

[[WMG: In combat since WW2, England assumes the identity of [[CallOfDuty Captain Price]].]]
It's not that hard to imagine "Arthur Kirkland" serving alongside and befriending the aforementioned soldier at some point during the WW2-era games. At some point, however, the ''original'' Price gets killed in action, prompting England to take his identity in memory of the man. But as the War drew to a close, he decided to retain the name and mustached appearance as his cover whenever entering combat alongside humans. Besides, how ''else'' could he survive the sort of crap he's gone through? [[spoiler:[[ModernWarfare Up to and including being locked up in a Russian gulag for three years.]]]]

[[WMG: Russia [[ShipperOnDeck ships Austria/Hungary]] and has been doing so for the past two hundred years.]]
[[http://chaneljay.deviantart.com/gallery/29776356#/d370ra5 Observe.]]
* In 1956 Hungary had a falling out with ''Russia''... And it's worth noting that in 1848 Russia "bringing them together" involved rushing in and literally crushing Hungary's army. (That's hardcore shipping for you...)
** It said in the notes that after the 1956 rebellion was crushed, Austria had a "hostile attitude to communist Hungary", and that Russia helped to reconcile them.

[[WMG: The British Empire was dismantled to save England's life.]]
Rome started to age, and eventually died, when his empire fell. England refers to himself several times in the series as "the great British Empire". Although obviously he never literally represented the empire countries, it doesn't seem implausible that having so much territory would change his status in some way. Maybe at some point England noticed a couple of wrinkles or a grey hair. Someone realised that this meant his days were numbered, and so it was decided to grant independence peacefully to the colonies before they tore the empire apart and England suffered the same fate as Rome.
* Well, and there were some pesky little things called World Wars...
** That doesn't discredit the guess, does it? The guess was that England started to subtly age, realised what that meant, and it was decided to get rid of the empire (although some people grasped the seriousness of the situation better than others). How does it affect the guess if the wars contributed to that situation?
*** Well, the wars kind of made Britain weak and nearly bankrupt. Which is why it didn't even try to keep its empire together anymore, it just didn't have the money and the resources. Just before WWI Britain fought the Second Boer War trying to ''expand'' its empire. After WWII it pretty much let go most of its colonies because it had to focus on rebuilding Britain itself.
**** Yes, it couldn't keep the empire together, so it didn't try. Why can't that translate to Hetalia terms as England looking like he might die if the empire didn't go peacefully? Am I just missing the objection here?
**** The point is, the empire didn't fall apart because England noticed a couple of wrinkles or a grey hair and thought that at this rate he would die. The Second Boer War was fought technically "minutes" before WWI to ''expand'' the empire. It was because the war left Britain weak and exhausted.
***** OK, I get the point now. Still, I think the guess has some merit if I'd worded it so that it said that ''after'' the wars England started to age, which corresponded to the real life problems in Britain. So as well as the issues in terms of the country, the nation-tan also seemed to be in trouble.
* That makes sense considering [[ImperialJapan Japan]] was showing signs of old age (high blood pressure and a bad back) during WWII.

[[WMG: China was castrated as a child.]]

[[WMG: China made the same mistake as Hungary, only in reverse.]]
* As an alternative theory to the castration one above, so far there are four confirmed ancients in canon, and two of those four are female. Considering the fact that women had more outlets and chances for some type of power in the ancient world even if they still weren't equal to men, a lot of the ancient nation-tans were likely female. Presumably China, at 4,000 years old, is one of the "younger" ancients, so he could very well have grown up around female -tans and assumed that he too was female. Obviously he no longer believes this, but he might still be more comfortable in more feminine clothes/still considers himself feminine in some ways. This would explain both his androgynous style and his drawing of himself that looks like a woman. Supported by Nyotalia China having tomboyish clothing in her sketch (though YMMV, I guess); she would have grown up around primarily male ancients and made the exact same error as Hungary.

[[WMG: England has travelled with [[Series/DoctorWho the Doctor]].]]
Simple logic: in [[http://hetalia.livejournal.com/5087111.html this strip]], England knew exactly when America's computer would be made (thinking about it, this implies America has also had some contact with the Time Lord), and considering the Doctor has been fighting off alien invaders from England's house for centuries, they're bound to know each other. When England was younger the Doctor probably took him on a trip to cheer him up (it's unlikely he'd risk it often, considering the potential England has to meddle), and England was so awestruck by the latest model computers it somehow stuck in his mind all those years.
* This has a logical conclusion. Why doesn't Gakuen!England want anyone to know what his Christmas is like? Well, if Series/DoctorWho and Hetalia are the same universe then ''England gets invaded by aliens at Christmas''! He doesn't want anyone to know because he's utterly convinced that they won't believe him.
** That... that is just brilliant.

[[WMG: China was originally planned to be unveiled as a girl.]]
An earlier guess is that China is a girl. We've seen enough now to know that this isn't true. But just looking at him, he is ''too'' feminine. Apart from the obvious lack of breasts, he really did look female in that dress from the Christmas bloodbath. I propose that Himaruya originally designed him with the thought in that back of his mind that he would one day [[DroppedABridgetOnHim drop a Bridget]] on the readers. However, he never acted on it and sort of forgot about it. It may occasionally have drifted back into his mind, and may even have still been lingering when the anime was cast. By now, though, there's been too much evidence to say he isn't, so the idea has been dropped.

[[WMG: The plans Alfred makes get boxed, à la [[TheOffice Office]] ]]
In TheOffice, complaints are filed into a box until the complainant has forgotten about it and moved on. This is the same method used to handle Alfred in the War Room, since he's much too powerful to simply shoo out. Actual (discarded) US war plans read like a teen obsessed with comic books: nuking the moon (or at least building a military base on it), LSD experiments, psychic soldiers, killer fungus, and exploding animals. The only way the military can get things done, and not make a complete fool of itself, is to file and pretend to prepare for these until Alfred has gotten bored and forgotten all about them.

[[WMG: America's glasses]]
They're actually a TragicKeepsake from Republic of Texas, a small child living in Mexico's house, who he became friends with. Texas moved out, which Mexico was forced to accept after fighting with him. But then Texas moved in with America, leading to bad blood between Mexico and America. Texas lost his life in the ensuing Mexican-American war, but entrusted his glasses to America in his final moments and caused him to go on a RoaringRampageofRevenge, ending in America seizing a significant amount of land from Mexico and growing into the "adult" he is today. It explains [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/files/arm.gif this]].

[[WMG: Russia has the heart of a child... and he keeps it in his coat pocket.]]
In [[http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2010/09/hetalia-russia.jpg this strip]] Russia's heart manages to pop out from the side of his chest rather than the center where one's heart is normally located because he keeps it in an inside pocket of his coat.
* Um...the heart is normally located in the left side of the chest. That's why, when you sing your national anthem, you usually put your right hand across your chest onto the left side and over your heart.
** It's slightly to the left, but closer to the center than most people think. When you cover your "heart" for the national anthem, you're more likely covering a lung.

[[WMG: That one song (Tetris theme) does not appear in Russia's MKC because it's russian]]
Hear me out. America's been staring at the wall funny ever since he sent Lithuania for batteries. He's clutching his gameboy color like it could save his life. In the other hand is a game cartrage. He's softly humming a song- one that Russia recognizes. Russia asks him about it, and he tells Russia it's this "Totally awesome game (he) can't stop playing!" and that he "can [[TetrisEffect see it everywhere.]] So Russia decides to try his hand. And he kicks ass at it. So America convinces him to put it in the song, saying everyone will think it's what you assumed it was.
And when that part plays, Russia steps away from the mic to play through the first level of tetris really fast.
* That makes too much sense to be ignored.

[[WMG: The inspiration for the Jones in America's name came from Junie B. Jones.]]
Don't tell me you haven't thought of it.
* Actually I had always thought it had come from Indiana Jones.

[[WMG:In the Christmas 2007 strip, when a drunken England reveals that someone broke his heart, he was talking about Seychelles and not America.]]
* Evidence? Not disregarding the theory, but there needs to be something to back this up.

[[WMG: Theres a reason Russia didn't have his scarf in the first few minutes of paint it white.]]
It's [[NoodleIncident a long story]]. You see, this guy named [[CandleJack Candle Jack]] cam

[[WMG: England was King Arthur]]
The original King Arthur "legend" was a diary that England kept. Later, France read it and made it into a story of his own. England had a greater hand in taking care of his people then, and was revered as something close to a king. The "Round Table" were all the other Anglo-Saxon nations that England eventually conquered. "Mordred" was a rebelling English or Celtic State. After taking him out, England gradually retreated from the public view of his people, causing the legend of the Once and Future King. Either that, or England had a psychic dream and saw America's Revolution and wrote it down in his diary as something of note. Later retellings corrupted it into an actual part of the story and connected it with England's disappearance from public view.
** The problem with this theory is that the legend of King Arthur is of Celtic origin, and he was supposed to have fought against the invading ''Anglo-Saxons'' - that is, the English. So if anything ''Wales'' was King Arthur.
*** But your issue depends on England actually being originally Anglo-Saxon, when I'd say the evidence points towards him being a Celt who was adopted by the Germanics. After all, the rest of the UK, at least, have been confirmed as England's brothers, the other British Isles have been stated to have the bushy eyebrows, and he doesn't share ''any'' features with the nations that are definitely Germanic, nor has there been mention of him being related to them. It's quite possible that England before he was England wrote down his diary while he was still resisting the invaders, and got captured by them afterwards. Or maybe it wasn't a diary at all, just a fairy story he wrote to keep his hopes up that someone would come save him and his people.


[[WMG: The British brothers can trace their blood straight back to Germania and Rome]]

England and Wales are related to Rome and the Italy brothers. Scotland is related to Germania, Germany, Prussia, and possibly Holy Roman Empire. Historically, the Romans never managed to conquer what is now Scotland, and were actually [[ViolentGlaswegian terrified of them.]] However, several Germanic tribes migrated there, and spread the English language.

[[WMG: England has the two personifications of the Kingdom of Northumbria living with him]]
Northumbria was made up of two kingdoms that alternated between being so closely allied that they were considered on and the same, and trying to kill each other, hence two personifications. While most of the Hepetarchy probably went the way of the dodo, these two hung on due to a) cultural differences between north and south, b) the fact that the border between Scotland and England kept changing, and c) general stubborness. After they were Northumbria they were the Danelaw for a while, then Bernica (northern Northumbria) spent a few centuries as the border region (and probably the menace known as the Border Rievers) and is now hanging on as Berwick-on-Tweed, while Deira (southern Northumbria) who the Nordics took more of an interest in during the Danelaw era is surviving on a combination of the north-south divide and people from Yorkshire thinking of themselves as a distinct group, to the point that [[http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=5901800389 some of them want independence from the rest of England]] (although no one takes that particular group seriously).
[[/folder]]

[[folder:Prussia]]
!Prussia
WMG regarding the character of [[AxisPowersHetalia/NeitherHolyNorRomanNorAnEmpire Prussia]] goes here.

[[WMG: Prussia used to be married when he was younger.]]
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandenburg-Prussia It's history canon.]] The reason why [[WordOfGod his profile]] says he was never married is because the Holy Roman Empire and Poland wouldn't allow them to officially marry (at the time, Brandenburg and Prussia were fiefs of HRE and Poland, respectively). The two still lived together like a married couple, anyway. Common-law marriage, see? After the HRE's collapse, Brandenburg was absorbed into Prussia and ceased to exist. Prussia was devastated and never remarried, and denies that he ever was.
* Actually, Brandenburg still exists as a federal state of Germany. This just brings the mental image of Prussia and Brandenburg hanging out in Germany's basement. The marriage aspect still works, however.

[[WMG: Prussia becomes EastGermany.]]
He calls his brother Ludwig 'West', he dislikes Russia, and he somehow still exists in modern day strips.
* This may have been helped along by WordOfGod, which stated that Prussia feels more like an enclave rather than a nation these days, and that he was stuck doing dead-end jobs. Maybe he was split between Kaliningrad and East Germany? Since there's still a feeling of "East-German-ness" in those parts of Germany, maybe that's how he was living on into 2009? He was living with Germany anyway since the days of the German Empire, so it could work...
** Recently, [[Tropers/{{Kazokuhouou}} I]] read an article about how a significant portion of Germans (from both sides) actually want Germany to ''redivide'' for economic reasons. So.....
*** Just a bit of explanation for people who don't understand the whole "want to divide" thing. The Russians ran East Germany into the ground (a long occupation, isolation, and a healthy dose of communism tends to do that...), and the economy was essentially completely destroyed because of it. It was bolstered back up after the Berlin Wall came down, but East Germany is still lagging well behind its Western half and requires a great deal of aid. Germany is an economic superpower, but nowhere near what it could be considering it's carrying around the crutch that is its recently-liberated section. This is on top of the fact that, due to the roughly 40 years apart, the two populations are different in basically everything (political beliefs, lifestyle, etc.), and it's a common thing to speak about them as separate entities. It really wouldn't be that much of a shock for them to indeed split. TL;DR version: Communism sucks in practice, and it's completely plausible that Prussia will get yet another name change.
**** So essentially, Germany wants to kick Prussia out of his basement?
** More evidence for this theory in the new game in Himayura's page:
-->'''Prussia:''' I'm done cleaning the library!
-->'''Germany:''' You really needn't have bothered, nii-san. I can do that much by myself. Since the unification until now I've done everything by myself. This kind of thing is no problem for me.

[[WMG: Prussia is not Prussia]]
At least, not in present day strips. He's actually [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Prussia,_Ontario New Prussia]]
* Poor Canada...
--> ''Oi oi, North!''
** That's the reason why he likes maple syrup.
** Conversely, he lives on as a [[http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/02/20/79-east-germany-lives-on-as-a-tiny-carribean-island/ Carribean Island]]. His association with Canada is through their mutual buddy, Cuba.

[[WMG: New Prussia is Prussia's kid]]
And by New Prussia I mean [[http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/New_Prussia/ this]] kid, not the town in Ontario. I can so see Prussia pulling a SatW!Iceland, pulling out an urn with his ashes in it...

[[WMG: Prussia is a Zombie]]
He's dead, he just doesn't really seem to realize it yet. This explains the ghostly appearance and red eyes.
* Except that he's been an albino-esque character since his childhood, when Prussia was very much going strong. Even later, he has the red-white color scheme during the brief depiction of the Austrian Succession, which was again while Prussia would have been very much alive.

[[WMG: Prussia is really Germany]]
He was so shattered at his brother's death that Germany gained a split personality, also inhabiting the brother that isn't there any longer. The fact that Germany and Prussia are never seen together in official pictures in modern time supports this.
* I would quote if I could find it, but the {{Word of God}} is that in the modern era he spends his time running around Europe and bumming off Germany and Austria (basically in a nod to how the region that was once West Germany is still having to work hard and support what used to be East Germany). Germany and Prussia do in fact interact, and with others in the room who would point out if Germany was speaking to himself (Prussia's drama CD). But, beyond that, Prussia is a pretty isolated character if only because of his own stubbornness. It's not out of character for him not to be interacting much (honestly, if he'd been someplace like the Meeting of the World, I would have put that more in the O.o.C. category. He's not really the diplomatic type; and if he did go I'm sure he probably would have gotten bored and left quickly).
** And, beyond that, Prussia in the modern era is shown interacting with England, France, Austria, and Italy (among others). All four of them are very well acquainted with both Germany and Prussia, all four of them are not known for holding their tongues to spare another's feelings, and at least one most certainly would have said something were this Germany rather than Prussia.

[[WMG: Prussia represents Awesome.]]
* Prussia and his later incarnation (presumably) East Germany ceased to exist years ago, so how does he still exist in the modern day? Simple: what has Prussia always has, and still does, claim to be?
** Prussia's claims to be awesome and invincible are mostly about him convincing himself of it, though. Especially in the more-modern eras, as he loses his power and place in the world, he's just trying to keep himself from breaking down completely by assuring himself of his own worth and that his old principles are still valid (note any time he talks about 'tears welling up'). If Prussia truly represents awesome, does that mean that being awesome is nothing but a series of delusions to protect self-esteem?

[[WMG: Prussia became Berlin state]]
* That explains how he survived. Since Berlin was the capital of Prussia, it would make sense if Gilbert becomes a German state along with Saxony and Bavaria.
** Problem with that, though... The states don't really get personified in the canon (it's exclusively a fan-thing, I believe, to show something like that). So, if Prussia is simply a state, why would he still be displayed within the main cast? Wouldn't he fall into the same spot as Brandenburg, Saxony, and Bavaria (to simply list German examples, though we could say this for places like the US, China, UK, etc., as well), who are not shown? It's a better bet to say that he's East Germany, as the division between the two is noticeable enough for people to identify themselves as something different.
*** There are characters for Saxony and Bavaria that appear briefly as background characters and in footnotes, but it's debatable if they're still kicking around in the series or not after their assimilation into Germany. But if Prussia is still around, perhaps it's not too much of a stretch to assume that they're living in some capacity too. Brandenburg? Beats me.
**** They're background characters, yes, but the sketch in question was from a historical period where they were both countries (or, rather, as close to countries as any of them were in those days). There's been no sign of them otherwise.
***** It appears that they might (key: might) still be hanging around, if Prussia's words in the recently-released ''Kuso-game'' are to be believed. In addition to them, other brothers get referenced.

[[WMG: Prussia doesn't represent anything anymore.]]
* He's stated that he doesn't have a body in his character CD. While this can be interpreted as him simply not having a country to attach himself to, it's also likely that he literally doesn't have a biological body. It could have dissolved (so to speak) after the German reunification, although it probably started fading in and out of existence starting with the dissolution of Prussia after [[WorldWarTwo World War II]]. He's not dead, though, and he still retains consciousness; he just can't interact with the physical place like he used to.
** The "no body" statement was actually in a fan-made version of Maru Kaite Chikyuu, it doesn't appear in any official song. However, the idea of poltergeist Prussia is too amusing, or rather a Prussia that only THINKS he's a ghost and tries (and fails since he's not quite dead) to haunt others "awesomely".
*** That is too epic not to exist, someone has to write it.
*** Well, [[http://sora-ko.deviantart.com/art/APH-Haunting-Austria-105711210 here's a fanart of ghost!Prussia.]]

[[WMG: Prussia becomes Brandenburg state.]]
* Prussia grew out of the Margraviate of Brandenburg, and Potsdam was its base of power even though Berlin had been its capital. While this would prevent a challenge for the times when the two were separate, it is possible that there was originally a separate Brandenburg-tan as well. They might have faded after the union of Brandenburg-Prussia, or they faded with being dissolved after WWII as well. Nowadays, it is Gilbo who is Brandenburg as some consider it to be the remnant of Prussia.
** Appears to be Jossed now; Kuso-game refers to Brandenburg and Prussia as separate elder brothers of Germany.

[[WMG: Prussia no longer represents anything, but keeps himself alive out of [[{{Determinator}} sheer willpower.]]]]
Despite not actually being a country anymore, he's still around in the present day. What keeps him around? His [[SmallNameBigEgo monstrous ego]]. He's here to stay whether the other nations like it or not, dammit.
** If this is actually the case, then said ego is at least partly justified. You have to admit, surviving on willpower alone is pretty awesome.

[[WMG: Gilbert is now the personification of the Internet]]
Admittedly, this WMG is based on a fanfic that I read, but somehow it just fits, plus it'd explain a lot. You have to admit, there is something rather Prussia-esque about the Net.
* Or perhaps he's become the personification of everything AWESOME.

[[WMG: During WWI Prussia was actually in control of Germany at the time, Not Germany]]
Seeing that Prussia dominated the political scene of the German Empire this makes sense, it also explains why Germany didn't meet Italy before, as The German Empire and Austrian-Hungarian Empires were Allies with the Kingdom Of Italy prior to WWI.

[[WMG: Prussia is still around because of the House of Hohenzollern]]
The House of Hohenzollern was the royal family of Prussia and had been since before Old Fritz came along. According to TheOtherWiki, despite the abolition of the German monarchy in 1918, the House of Hohenzollern never relinquished their claims to the thrones of Prussia and the German Empire. Members of the family still style themselves princes of Prussia. This troper reasons that if some nut claiming a seafort and calling himself a prince is enough to create a nation-tan, then the descendents of a country's royal family continuing to claim the throne and call themselves princes of the country in question should be enough to keep one going.

[[WMG: Prussia is Germany's militarism]]
Okay, bear with me here. Modern Germany was created by combining the existing German states into one country. The personalities and defining traits of each of these states mixed together to create the 'Complete' Germany. Some of these states had enough of their own identity to continue existing as seperate beings, one example being Prussia. The question is, what aspect of Germany's psyche would Prussia represent? Looking through history, at the Teutonic Knights, Prussia and supposedly the GDR, all of these states have something in common- state glorification of war/violence, in other words, militarism. However, in the modern day, Germany is very anti-militaristic, so despite him caring about his brother, he is still rejecting what his brother represents. However, he can't make that part of him disappear, so instead Prussia is still hanging about, waiting until his brother needs him again...

[[WMG: The Kingdom of Prussia will return.]]
And that's why Prussia is still alive.\\
Whatever it is that decides when a nation-tan is going to die seems to know when a country is gone for good and when it's going to return. If they started to die as soon as their nation stopped existing, then we wouldn't still be on the original Poland. So the nation Prussia is going to return somehow.\\
I realise that this theory depends somewhat on Himaruya being clairvoyent... but why not?
* This might not be so farfetched. After all, it's been said that East Germany still has a different culture from West Germany, due to living under communism, as well as other factors. Maybe they re-separate into two countries, and the East renames itself Prussia? Then, all they have to do is put the Hohenzollern pretender on the throne...
* Actually, it returned as a [[http://micronations.wikia.com/wiki/Free_State_of_Prussia reconstituted free state of Prussia]]. So, not a nation, exactly, but given Himaruya's recent micronation spree (Sealand, Seborga, Wy...) it's pretty plausible.

[[WMG: Prussia has always been alone because he took a vow of celibacy as a Teutonic priest/his extreme religiousness.]]
Because he was formed as a religious order, and because there are, in fact, legitimate drawings of him in Teutonic priest garb, it seems it could be possible that Prussia claims to hate "clustering" so much and likes to exalt the benefits of being alone simply because he has no other choice. Catholic priests take a vow of celibacy upon entering the papacy.
* So, with the wide-embracing of atheism in East Germany, in the modern era he should be racing to lose it.

[[WMG: Prussia is, in fact, a {{Cyborg}}.]]
After the end of WWII, the Allies had several plans for Germany. One was to split it into three parts and de-industrialize it, which was quickly scrapped due to being near impossible (an industrial society supports more people than a pre-industrial one, [[InferredHolocaust so what would happen to all those extra Germans]]). Instead, they went with the plan we're all familiar with, in which Germany was split into occupied zones governed by the Allies, and later reconstituted as [[TheAtoner today's Germany]]. Well, all except for one piece...

Before and during WWII, Hitler centralized Germany as much as he could, removing many of the special rights as he could from German states and cities. For example, Austria ("''Österreich''" meaning "Eastern Realm") became "''Östmark''" (meaning Eastern March), basically making it a simple area of Germany and attempting to remove any aspects of a separate Austrian identity. Prussia was another one of the hardest hit, and lost pretty much every right he had as the Kingdom of Prussia within Germany, and later the Free State of Prussia with the Weimar Republic. At the end of WWII, the Allies were set to make this ''de facto'' status official, and also disassembled Prussia's body, giving much of it to Poland and Russia. Prussia likely would have died, his people and land (the Russian occupation zone) becoming part of Germany...

However, Russia, not wanting to play nice and deciding instead to not completely reunify Germany as a Federal Republic, declared "WeCanRebuildHim!!!" *SlasherSmile*

Thus, the Russian occupied zone was reconstituted as the German Democratic Republic (GDR). This is represented by having Russia perform some [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel seriously disturbing surgery]] on Prussia, giving his land and people a new country, but also integrating as much Soviet philosophy, government, doctrine, technology, and culture as he possibly could. This, combined with the fact that Russia annexed historical East Prussia (Kaliningrad), resulted in Robo!Prussia. Robo!Prussia remained a loyal Soviet underling for decades before the USSR collapsed. This, of course, allowed Gilbert to reunify with his brother, although his continued robotic existence kept him somewhat separate from his brother (read: ''Ostalgie''). However, Russia still has control of the Kaliningrad region (which acts as a type of remote control). He simply awaits the best moment to... make use of it.

The personification of Kaliningrad, the Soviet ace-in-the-hole? ... [[spoiler:''' ''GILBIRD'' ''']]

[[WMG: Prussia is actually Lithuania and Latvia's brother.]]
The original Prussia was Baltic in language. However, he was only the two Baltics' half-brother, as his father was Germania. When he became the Order of the Teutonic Knights, Prussia tried to forget his original Baltic identity and was successful in doing so.

[[WMG: Prussia is actually the city King Of Prussia, Pennsylvania.]]
* He still lives with his brother because America didn't feel like putting up with him.
** Or Prussia, IA, or New Prussia, ON... There are a lot of places.

[[WMG: Yet another why-Prussia-is-still-around WMG]]
Prussia is still around because he originally wasn't a country at all. He wasn't even ''Prussia'' - the original Prussia was a country in Europe that the Teutonic Order took over. Thanks to this unusual origin, the awesomeness that is Prussia will never be destroyed.
* Considering how vicious the knights were, and how vicious Prussia eventually became, it's likely Prussia killed the older nation and took its name.

[[WMG: Prussia's died lots of times.]]
...and keeps coming back because he's awesome.
* My headcanon is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gustavus_von_Tempsky this]] is one of his deaths... yes I know he doesn't look a thing like him... see the below entry?

[[WMG: Prussia is a TimeLord.]]
Someone had to say it.

[[WMG: Prussia is the Holocaust.]]
Inspired by a fanfic, yes. But hear me out. There have been a few good fanfics of Prussia being imprisoned behind old Luddy's back. Without anyone to represent them, the people in the concentration camps stopped thinking about themselves as Germans and Poles ect. and started thinking of themselves as members of the concentration camp, later referred to as the holocaust. And Prussia was just chillin without a country. So he took over.

[[WMG: Prussia and {{Rance}} are the same person, just from different dimensions.]]
This means that somewhere in the Ranceverse, there is a country called Rance, and it is ''awesome''. And hey, Rance's theme ''is'' a remix of the East Germany anthem.

[[WMG: Prussia, or a descendant of him, goes on to become the [[LegendOfTheGalacticHeroes Galactic Empire]].]]
Taken in part from [[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/LegendOfGalacticHeroes the Legend of the Galactic Heroes WMG]], it wouldn't really be surprising if it turns out that Gilbert, or at least his successor, is the Empire, especially given how blatantly German it is (or more specifically, ''Prussian''). Suppose that he manages to be the one who convinced Kaiser Rudolf to forge that interstellar country in the first place? Eventually, he'd be the premier Nation in the galaxy (though perhaps not the ''only'' one left, given the Free Planets Alliance, Phezzan and the fringe worlds). On the other hand, it's not hard to imagine this being a tad bitter, especially when Hungary, Austria and Germany would have been long dead by the time the series takes place...

[[WMG: Prussia is still around because of the comic]]
Okay, this troper's head canon is that nation-tans exist as long as their's enough people who think of themselves as being part of that nation. Even though Prussia ceased to exist as a state decades ago, there were still enough people around who thought of themselves as Prussian to keep Gilbert going (being East Germany for a while may also have helped). However, with the passage of time, the people who identified themselves as Prussian or East German steadily decreased in number and under norml circumstances Gilbert would have eventually faded away. But them, luckily for Prussia, Axis Powers Hetalia comes along and suddenly there's a hoard of Prussia fans, with any of them who have the right ancestry proclaiming themselves to be Prussia (there's an entire group devoted to it on deviantArt for pete's sake). The number of people that Prussia has to his name shoots up and he bounces back from the brink.
* Going off of this, Prussia is the one who told Himaruya about the nation-tans in the first place. The only reason he took so long to appear is that he knew if he was the star or even just one of the leads, other -tans would suspect and his plan to survive would be ruined. So he made it Italy because if it had to be someone else, at least it's cute little Italy. (II'm pretty sure he thinks Italy's cute in canon, I think it's in one of the Drama CDs?)

[[WMG:Prussia is now a [[GirlGenius Jagermonster]].]]
He's a powerful soldier with a strong accent, he already looks a little unusual by human standards even if he hasn't got the six-inch fangs, and Episode 12 shows him with the appropriate NiceHat. He doesn't wear the Nice Hat in public in order not to attract suspicion. This is why he hasn't aged since the fall of Prussia; he would have become a regular human if he hadn't drunk the Jagerbrau, and now he's a Jager, he'll live for hundreds more years.

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[[folder:Other Nations]]

!Other Nations
WMG regarding the rest of the official Manga/AxisPowersHetalia nations goes here.

[[WMG:Himaruya will choose the ponytail guy for Portugal]]
* Ponytail guy is popular all over pixiv and tumblr. To the point where people act him as canon. Plus, the Portuguese fandom probably emailed Himaruya to make Portugal a dude since a girl is an "icky" representation of their country. He'll probably do a {{ascended fanon}}.
** ...I fail to see how a female representation of Portugal is "icky."

[[WMG: What Thailand's {{Verbal Tic}} means]]
* In the series, Thailand says "ana" after every sentence. In the 1860's, Anna Leowens (of {{The King and I}} fame0 came to Siam (now Thailand) to teach the royal court about Westernization. Thailand must of liked her so much, he adopted the verbal tic of "ana" to remember her by.
** Actually, it's a real verbal tic said by Thais in certain situations, explained here: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=211093352245163

[[WMG: Canada is...]]
[[WildMassGuessing American Theories]] (''[[WebOriginal/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries In America]]'') propose that [[OmniscientCouncilOfVagueness Seekret Plans]] = {{Badass}} = [[{{Badass}} Canada]] = [[{{Badass}} Canada]] is a closet {{Yandere}} and will someday open a Can of Whoop Ass on his bro America. Literally (and gangstah style)? And/or he secretly controls a portion of the galactic trade organization from Earth...[[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment secretly]]. (Because he is [[{{Badass}} Canada]]. And [[{{Badass}} Canada]] is... Wait, who were we talking about again?)
** Haha, awesome. Of, course, though, the result will be that he'll go BadAss and nobody will bother to see/hear/notice it happen.

[[WMG: Finland is a NightmareFuelStationAttendant]]
It explains the creepy name suggestions.
* Some fanfics have painted him in this light.

[[WMG:Lithuania is a {{Yandere}} and a convincing StepfordSmiler.]]
Because if Russia managed to rub off on ''Latvia'', then imagine how easy it must be for Lithuania, who is Russia's 'favorite'. Estonia is sane because Russia doesn't particularly like him.
* On a related note, apparently Lithuania has the world's highest suicide rate. Make of that what you will.
** Lithuania also has the highest homicide rate in the EU but the country has 4.8% of Russians which is really small compared to Estonia and Latvia so I don't think it was Russia "rubbing off" of him.

[[WMG: There used to be a ''lot'' of Korea in the anime...]]
... and when the protests started the studio chopped out his scenes and replaced them with previews for Cleaning Out the Storage.
* You have made my day.
[[WMG:Poland is secretly a badass]]
[[WMG: Netherlands looks like America]]
Or rather, America looks like Netherlands. Canada seems to have some physical traits from France but America looks nothing like England. The explanation is that he was actually the personification of New Netherlands and was given to England after the Third Anglo-Dutch War.
* [[http://himaruya.blog61.fc2.com/blog-entry-689.html Ehhhhh....]]
** Maybe a little around the eyes.
** If the hair was parted like America's I could see it. Maybe he got Netherland's hair, a mix of Sweden and Finland's features (they mentioned finding him), and England's laws, governing ideals, and other features (whathaveyou)... the melting pot in full swing. Perhaps he has a bit from France too, who knows... Canada simply has more noticeable aspects of France and England because he was raised by them longer and the ethnic populations of Canada resemble them the most (French and English Canadians, respectively).
** In Hetalia, everyone has OnlySixFaces. Of course they look alike.
* If America started as the personification of any "New _____" colony, it was New Sweden. [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/sntr.html The Battle For America strip]] talks about America first appearing to Finland and Sweden in the latter's territory, not in New Netherlands. The strip also implies that America resembles Finland more than England or France (they promptly deny that it matters).
** There were more Finns in New Sweden than Swedes, too.
[[WMG: Poland isn't done developing his character]]
Thanks to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solidarity_%28Polish_trade_union%29 Solidarity]]

[[WMG: All will not become one with Russia. All ''will'' become one with Belarus.]]
Belarus is the only country that even ''Russia's'' afraid of, though that might have more to do with the obsessive incestuous stalking than political reasons. Someday he'll crack and fall under Belarus's sway, then with his help, she will take over the world.
* [[BewareTheniceOnes Ukraine]] is the woman-behind the woman-behind the man.
* But Belarus only cares about her brother. She couldn't care less about the others. She would just nuke them all if anything so that [[MurderTheHypotenuse they would be out of the way for good.]]
** ''Exactly''. She will kill the other nation-tans and claim their land, and the world will end up with one country: Belarussia.

[[WMG: South Italy becomes the Vatican]]
After the two halves of Italy reunite, there really isn't a need for BOTH of them. However, Vatican City is recognized as an independent country, so Lovino switches from being South Italy to being the representation of the Vatican. His boss is the Pope.
* I am more of a mind of him becoming Sicily. It has a culture and economy different from that of the rest of Italy. The people have much pride in their island, describing themselves as Sicilians first and Italians second. They also have their own language. Sicily is different from the rest of Italy to the point that it's an autonomous region. Another fact is that Sicily is home base to the mafia. All these factors point at Romano becoming Sicily, which strongly identifies with the rest of Southern Italy, rather than the Vatican, which has a culture better related to Northern Italy.
** I Always Thought Grandpa Rome became the Vatican. Because IRL The Vatican Resisted Italy Joining The HRE.
*** [[http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/Cal05000/Proof1.png]] | [[http://i960.photobucket.com/albums/ae87/Cal05000/Proof2.png]]
** The Vatican is it's own independent nation, isn't it?
*** According to the [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Vatican_City Hetalia Wiki]], Vatican exists and is at odds with the Italies.

[[WMG: Mama Egypt committed suicide alongside Cleopatra.]]
* Actually, she converted to Islam and changed her name.
** Egypt only converted to Islam after he was conquered by Rome and converted to Coptic Christianity. By that time, Mama Egypt was long gone.
** Ancient Rome is mentioned to have fallen in love with Ancient Egypt at first sight. Odds are, he conquered her, and some time in between the fall of Rome and the coming of Islam was the birth of modern Egypt. Perhaps Egypt died along with Rome circa 500 A.D., followed by a brief century or two of baby!Modern Egypt, who was then conquered and raised by Arabia, and then conquered and taken in by Ottoman!Turkey before that stuff with France and Britain and his "protectorate" status under Iggy. He then gained independence and became a republic under Nasser.
*** My personal theory is that Mama Egypt died when Ancient Egypt lost its culture. The Romans basically reverted Egypt to a classical culture based mostly off that of Ancient Greece. Therefore, for my theory, I believe that Mama Egypt committed suicide after Grandpa Rome conquered her, wanting to die a queen and not a slave. She did, however, leave behind her son to be come the modern Egypt.

[[WMG: Poland's possessiveness toward Lithuania stems from his secret jealousy of Austria.]]
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole,_Hungarian,_two_good_friends Poland used to be (and still is) best friends with Hungary]]. Then Austria came into the picture and married Hungary, taking his wife to live with him. Poland was left bitter and jealous as a result and compensates by being clingy over the friends that he still has.

[[WMG: Tino Väinämöinen (Finland)'s name is not actually [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Tino or Timo]], it is in fact [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simo_Häyhä Simo]].]]
Because naming the personification of Finland anything other than the single most BadAss sniper of WWII is a crime against history, fictional comic strip or not be damned (note: not actually being Finnish, I just think that this WMG would be totally bad ass. More historical information is needed to see this happen).
* Seconded. I also now have a mental image of Finland with a rifle and Russia looking uncharacteristically nervous.
** Perhaps Russia tried repeatedly to break into Finland's house, only to be shot at from seemingly nowhere, foiling every attempt?
*** Okay, the above needs to happen. I don't care if it's canon, or in a fanfic/fancomic, it just needs to be done.
**** Some fanfic author out there has to see this, or maybe has already written one or at least knows of one?
**** On a related note Sniper!Finland is a fairly popular subject of fanart.
***** Links, ''please''. On [[http://i408.photobucket.com/albums/pp169/Murasakinekomata/Hetalia/114491592.jpg another related note]] (mildly NSFW due to [[ClusterFBomb gratuitous use of the F-Word]]).
****** Your [[http://typelike.deviantart.com/art/Sniper-Finland-133458343 wish]] is my [[http://scientificromance.deviantart.com/art/APH-Sniper-Tino-updated-124484288 command]]. [[http://purplenekomata.deviantart.com/art/APHTF2-Sniper-Finland-145043886 Five]][[http://monkey-sama.deviantart.com/art/APH-Finland-151699042 fan]] [[http://bearcatt.deviantart.com/art/APH-quot-Tino-Hayha-quot-121201871 arts]] and [[http://masa-kocha.deviantart.com/art/Cold-Sniper-152662054 two]] [[http://strawberry-itchiko.deviantart.com/art/Cosplay-Sniper-Tino-145288481 cosplays]]. And on a related note, [[http://musiclover1993.deviantart.com/art/White-Death-120722452 a fan fic]].
******* FinnsWithFearsomeForests ?

[[WMG: Katyusha is actually the current Ukrainian Prime Minister Yulia Timoshenko in disguise]]
* plaited hair, blond hair, does Katyusha/Ukraine remind you of the Ukrainian Prime Minister?
* your mileage may vary, though. [[{{BewareTheNiceOnes}} Still...]]
* Her name's not Katyusha and her hair was only braided in childhood. She's shown being hysterically obedient to her boss-of-the-moment, while Tymoshenko and former president Yushchenko had a significant falling-out.

[[WMG: Holy Roman Empire is actually a girl, and is not Germany.]]
She is, instead, Liechtenstein. The tiny country has been described as the last remnant of the Holy Roman Empire. There are some awesome one-shots out there that explore this.
* {{Jossed}}. The Voice Actor for the HRE is male. If that was female, at least that theory would hold water.
* {{Jossed}} definitively. Not only is HRE constantly referred to as male, there's even a strip where he runs away from Chibitalia because of an erection.
* This seemed completely ridiculous at first, but then I pondered it for a bit. Perhaps instead Liechtenstein is actually a boy, forgot about the past and for some reason thinks s/he's a girl and made a very convincing trap to the other countries, explaining why s/he was "mistaken" for a boy in that one strip. This could however be {{Jossed}} as she has an official genderbend. Another observation is HRE has {{Monochromatic Eyes}} which Liechtenstein has and Germany does not. But in all honesty, these are all most likely coincidences and I would still bet my money on HRE = Germany considering the author's standards, unless an {{Ass Pull}} for {{Rule Of Funny}} occurs.
** Liechtenstein is female, there's just way too much evidence to question that one. And considering there's also a mountain of evidence for HRE being a male, this theory is {{Jossed}} for good.

[[WMG: It's South Italy who represents the country - North has the same status as Prussia.]]
Well, South Italy supposedly represents Rome which -is- the capital of Italy.
* In connection, the explanation goes along the lines of why Prussia (as East Germany) still would be alive after the fall of the Berlin wall. The nations, perhaps, are more representative of their cultures than of their specific landmasses. As long as major cultural differences exist, then so will that particular nation-tan. And, since North and South Italy are still quite different places that make up a whole, they both represent their country simultaneously.
* It's possible that ''South'' has the same status as Prussia: Berlin and Brandenburg are both found in East Germany, after all...

[[WMG: Belgium has a muscle deficiency.]]
In [[http://himaruya.blog61.fc2.com/blog-entry-716.html this blog entry]], Belgium says a saxophone is too heavy for her to lift, even for a short time. The average saxophone weighs about 6 to 7 kilograms. A normal woman would be able to lift it.
* If Belgium represents European Union, as most of European institutions are based in Brussels, it can be a consequence of the financial crisis. It would mean that she takes the damages of 27 countries.
* Could also have something to do with the current linguistic divide/constitutional crisis in Belgium - if her people are that divided they can't form government, that could have an impact on her strength.

[[WMG: Rome is the father of Greece and Egypt.]]
...I probably don't have to explain this one.
* That would explain Egypt's light skin but a guy invading his uncle?
** Eh, pretty much all of the royal families of Europe are related but they still kept attacking each other for centuries. A nation attacking his uncle would be downright fitting.
** Considering that Rome was in love with Ancient Egypt and Ancient Greece... I would consider this definitely possible.

[[WMG: Holy Roman Empire and Chibitalia's versions of ''Marukaite Chikyuu'' are either a mistake or a prediction of the future]]
Think about it. "''Draw a circle, here's the world''"? The Chibitalia miniseries takes place in olden days... so wouldn't the world '''not''' be a circle? Shouldn't it be: "''Draw a line/cube/flat plane, here's the world''"? Not only that, I wouldn't think they'd have bolognese by then.
* ..They already knew the earth was round in the middle ages.
* {{You Fail History Forever}}
* Italy also did have pasta during that time, although only bolognese ''sauce'' was invented recently. They most likely did have bolognese back in the middle ages (since all they need to do is add tomatoes and meat balls to pasta and anything else of their liking), but it probably wasn't called bolognese, or it possibly was. I don't know much about the history of Italian cuisine so I could be wrong. The above tropers already disproved the "predicting the earth is round" theory so there's no need to get into that.

[[WMG: Australia's human name is Bruce]]
Why mess with a perfectly good stereotype, especially since it's Hetalia we're talking about.
* Honestly, I preferred something like Oswald, or 'Oz' for short, since that's what Australia's nicknamed anyway, at least from what I've seen when watching {{F1}}.
** Ladies and gentleman! Introducing: Bruce "Oz" Oswald, AKA Australia!
*** Somehow I would have thought Australia's last name would be Kelly, after Ned Kelly. How can you NOT name Australia after the father of Badassry in his land? Also the surname Kelly is in the top ten most common surnames in Australia still, so it is contempory too.
**** Bruce Oswald "Oz" Kelly. We all win.

[[WMG: The Vatican is father of both Italies.]]
Himaruya mentioned a Grandpa Rome, but he never told who was the father of both Italies. The Vatican being old may be a good candidate for one.
* Alternatively, maybe the Vatican (being historically younger) is the Italies' little brother or cousin, he simply has a case of less-delayed aging so he looks more like their grandfather by now. He prides himself on looking older and uses it to his advantage!
** The Catholic Church came out of Rome and was always a powerful political entity even before it officially became the Vatican.
*** I can actually see him being older that Rome, at least using Hetalia!Logic. As the Vatican received its name from an older name for the site on which it stands. In ancient times a low, level region on the western bank of the Tiber River was known as Ager Vaticanus ("Vatican Field"). This name is believed to be derived from Vaticum, the name of an Etruscan settlement which vanished centuries before the earliest Roman history. The origin and meaning of Vaticum is not known for certain. In Latin vates mean "prophet", and vaticinatio, "prophecy." Some authorities have theorized that Vaticum, which was outside the limits of ancient Rome, was so called because a legendary priestly king once revealed oracles to his people there. Over time the name Vatican came to refer specifically to a nearby hill rather than to the land area near the river, and was used as a graveyard by the Roman Empire.

[[WMG: Mongolia is partially responsible for Russia's psychosis.]]
The Mongol Empire was incredibly brutal, so it would stand to reason that Mongolia's unsavory methods of conquest left a big mark on Russia's psyche.
* Not to mention Ivan the Terrible causing some more trauma in there too.

[[WMG: [[LukeIAmYourFather Turkey is Greece's father]].]]
* They have the same IdiotHair, just like the Italies have the same ones as their grandfather Rome.
** I don't see why not, considering old notes ''did'' say he was in love with her...
* History doesn't agree with you much... Turkey originally came from central Asia, before he moved through the entire continent, invaded Constantinople(which also put an end to Byzantium), renamed it Istanbul, etc. It even says he used to be brothers with Japan on his profile, which sort of explains him being 'protective' against Greece. Greece used to be part of the Ottoman Empire, but the Idiot Hair seems like something Mediterraneans have, so I'm guessing Turkey got his when he settled in where he is now.
** The fact that he came from Asia doesn't really stop him from becoming Greece's dad later on... Also, Egypt and the other Mediterranean nations don't have that curl. Minus a hatless TRNC in an unfinished sketch, and he can be considered Turkey's kid too.

[[WMG: Taiwan once pretended to be China in UN meetings.]]
* There is a good reason why Taiwan has the same [[YukiKaida VA]] as China's. By altering her voice, Taiwan can get away with cosplaying as China in UN meetings. After all, Taiwan called herself the Republic of China. However, the real China found out about her ruse and begged the other nations to kick her out of the UN.
** It's more likely that the rest of the Allies and the UN simply didn't recognize the change of government China went through after his civil war, resulting in the communist PRC (America, leading the others, opted to continue recognizing the ROC through Taiwan. It was no secret to any government that the Nationalist side only controlled a few islands, after all. The change in UN recognition likely occurred after China convinced America and his Boss, Nixon, to recognize China's government and not Taiwan's.

[[WMG: Canada is a seekret {{Yandere}}]]

[[WMG: Mother Greece's name is Helen.]]
Well, Ancient Greece is sometimes known as Hellenistic Greece, and it's not like the name didn't exist, [[Literature/TheIliad Helen of Troy, anyone?]]
** "Hellenistic Greece" is actually a period of Ancient Greece. And by your logic, Greece should be named Helen as well, since the country's official name is Hellenic Republic, "Hellas" being the Greek word for Greece. (Needless to say, the words "Hellas" and "Helene" are not related.)

[[WMG: Spain thought America was a girl when he first saw "her".]]
America is an actual Spanish girl's name and it was the Spanish who named America so...
P.S. I know the name applies technically to both continents and the country itself is technically the United States, [[MST3KMantra but just go]] [[RuleofFunny along with it]].
* And he didn't find out America was actually a boy until Florida was handed over.

[[WMG: Canada is an Alternate Universe counterpart to [[FamilyGuy Meg Griffin]].]]
Just think about it.
* Which would, by extension, make America/Alfred an AlternateUniverse Chris. Hey, it kind of works......!
** Not quite. Chris is Meg's younger brother, and Canada is ''younger'' than America.
*** On a joke theory, but there's been no statement over which of the two is older. It will completely depends upon which colony birthed the eventual country. Considering how early European maps had identified a 'Canada', he could easily be the elder one.
**** Nope. America started to become what it is today on July 4th, 1776. Canada didn't form until 1867.
***** By that logic, America wouldn't have been born until the revolution began (which obviously wasn't the case). The French founded Canada back in 1534 which, even if we take America's birth as the earliest colony founded within his future territory, makes Canada nearly a century the senior.
****** But America was discovered in 1492. Shouldn't that make America older than Canada?
******* You're confusing the Americas with the US, and discovery with colonization. Columbus landed in what is now the Bahamas, and he pillaged but he didn't colonize. Even if he did, it wouldn't have affected the development of the character America. Even Columbus wasn't the first to discover the Americas, that honor is more correctly attributed to Vikings. Who, by the way, landed in what is now Canada.
******** But the vikings landed on what is now Newfoundland and Newfoundland was its own colony separate from Canada until 1949. And was in effect the last province to join Canada since Nunavut was created from the NWTs which were already part of Canada.
********* It's still Canadian, now, which was the point they were trying to make.

[[WMG: New Zealand's ahoge channels the circular energy of the universe.]]
Just take a look at that curl and think about it. It's scary.
** Then what about everyone else's ahoges...?
* Alternatively, [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann is actually made of Spiral Power]].
* Or something [[{{Uzumaki}} much, much worse.]]

[[WMG: Korea might be rewritten back to the original Fem!Korea pop-singer character if he was to return in the anime.]]
Though of course, his character design stays male. At least this would appease the Korean MoralGuardians.
* The problem with that theory is that the Fem!Korean was put into Himaruya's short-lived comic [=MoeKan=]. Unlike Hetalia, which is an AffectionateParody, [=MoeKan=] is pretty insulting in regards to Koreans (that is, when put in comparison). Like the Koreans investigating Hetalia when the anime was announced, they'd probably investigate [=MoeKan=] and get even madder.
* Alternately, Fem!Korea might be retconned as the ''North'', if only for the FIFA World Cup-related strips.

[[WMG: The two hooded enemies of Hungary, Wallachia and Moldavia, were actually Romania and Moldova in disguise.]]
* Of course with Moldova being introduced, it was theorized that Romania will somehow look like Moldova. And besides, Wallachia was the core of Romania in RealLife.

[[WMG: Greece is the father of the Italy brothers and doesn't know it]]
* Also, the Italy brothers are actually half-brothers and have different moms.

[[WMG: If Rome is the Italies' grandfather, the Italies also have a father/mother.]]
Italy Veneziano sometimes represents the Duchy of Milan and sometimes the Republic of Venice. Italy Romano corresponds more or less to the Kingdom of Sicily/Naples/Two Sicilies.
What occupied the Italian Peninsula between the fall of Rome and the creation of these states?
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Italy_%28medieval%29 The Lombard Kingdom of Italy!]] All of the various Italian city-states that popped up later are his/her children.
* The series seems to very purposely side-steps direct descending, though. It could simply be allusion to the fact that that there are many, many things which lead to a nation being formed, and that the 'relatives' only were a prime aid in that. Considering characters never mention parents (I've never seen any talk of it, but then I could have skimmed over that), maybe none of them actually have those relations...
** Greece does. Ancient Greece has been referred to as his mother repeatedly.

[[WMG: Most countries in Western Europe are related.]]
Spain, Portugal, France, Veneziano, England and his brothers, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, and Liechtenstein all are the great-grandchildren of two brothers: Celtiberia (Spain, Portugal, Ireland, and Scotland) being the elder, and La Tene (France, England, Wales, Switzerland, Austria, Germany, and Liechtenstein) being the younger.
** I have also long thought that the European countries were related but rather more recently (relatively speaking) then the above. Two words: [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration_period Migration Period]]. The Roman Empire almost certainly played a part as well.
*** I would like to point out that the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtiberians Celtiberians]] and the La Tene cultures both predate the Roman Empire by centuries. However, your point still stands.
**** I wouldn't be surprised if both applied, although that could lead to inbreeding jokes. Either way, it'd explain why a lot of European history (Ex: the England vs France thing) tends to feel like a series of family arguments and feuds that have got really out of hand.
** I drew up a [[http://a.imageshack.us/img529/9178/font1.png family tree]] for Western Europe, to the best of my ability. I left out some familial links that would be important, and I didn't do the Slavic countries or Scandinavia, because that's beyond my comprehension of how they relate to each other. Tell me what you think.
*** [[SincerityMode I like it]]. It has a few areas that I'd argue on, but those would probably be just nitpicking[[hottip:*:Since Canada is portrayed as equally British and French, and since Quebec-kun has never been more than a bad dream of Canada's, I'd place English Canada & Quebec together on one line, but distinct from one another, both to show "a nation within a nation" and the fact that Canada is basically portrayed as Britain and France's colonial-era lovechild in {{Fanon}}. As well, Canada would also be closer to both Britain and France with America on the other side, due to the close ties Canada had with both nations.]]. Scandinavia would probably fit in as a direct relative of Germania. Germanic culture started in Scandinavia and far-northern Germany, so the current Scandinavian nations would likely be cousins or uncles of the Germanic nations seen in the strips.
**** Russia and his sisters would also be [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rus%27_%28people%29 related to the Nordics]], specifically Sweden.

[[WMG: New Zealand's gender will NEVER be revealed.]]
Maybe it's another [[SoulEater Crona]].
* As a New Zealander I fully support this, if only for the RuleOfFunny.
** If [[http://blog-imgs-26-origin.fc2.com/h/i/m/himaruya/hj3.jpg this]] is anything to go by, this may even be canon (Text Translation: What do you think I am?)
*** To add on to the above troper, the question was "Is New Zealand a man or a woman?" and [[AmbiguousGender he/she/it]] replied "Which one do you think?"

[[WMG: Canada's ahoge is Quebec.]]
It sticks out and pretty much demands to be noticed, it helps set Canada apart from his brother America, [[IncrediblyLamePun it's kinda loopy]], but it doesn't wanna detach itself from Canada's head.
* But it's already been said that Quebec-kun lives with Canada somewhere.
** No, that was just a nightmare Canada had. There may or may not be an actual Quebec character.
*** Provinces are canon, first off. But, with how much Quebec enjoys rebelling against/clinging off/annoying the rest of Canada, he probably has a lot of nightmares about his wayward province.
* And it's alluded to that Montreal is his vital regions. In terms of land mass, though, Quebec is the largest province, and it's pretty much in second place for most everything else. I, at least, can't really see that such a huge part of the country would be represented as a single (if prominent) hair while 'lesser' provinces/territories would by default have to represent huge sections of the body.
** Then which part of Canada represents Ontario?
*** Canada hasn't been expanded on, so it's impossible to know for certain. But, considering Ontario contains the financial center, capital, largest population, etc., it's probably his head.
* I don't know about Quebec. But there are a few provinces who I could easily picture as certain body parts for Canada. Ontario=the head. Alberta=the ahem uh groin( Alberta seems very masculine). Saskatchewan=the stomach(because it produces so many of the crops)
** Actually perhaps Quebec could be the heart since it was the first colony and the maple leaf which is often used to symbolize Canada only grows in mass quantities in Quebec?
* Personally, I always saw Canada being diced up like [[http://xinorix.deviantart.com/art/Canadian-Anatomy-150470581 this.]] Quebec being the neck goes to that MyBigFatGreekWedding quote: "The man is the head (of the house), but the woman is the neck. And she can turn the head any way she wants."

[[WMG: Canada is Ontario and the other provinces other than Quebec]]
This is going off the idea that some of the nations are form the same place, but represent different cultures and ethnicities. Think about it- Quebec is the only Province in Canada where more people speak French than English. Furthermore, Quebec is the only province shown in hetalia, so 'Canada' could just be the representation of the other provinces!
* Kumajiro could represent the territories
* We probably just haven't seen the other provinces/territories because they haven't been necessary to the plot, considering it's already been established that things like province-tans exist. It could be Canada/Kumajiro are like North/South Italy, while the provinces work under them.
* I don't think that English Canada could be represented by just one person if the territories and Quebec get their own representation. I think it would make more sense if that were the case to have the regions of Canada represented separately i.e. BC,Ontario, the prairies, the Maritimes, Newfoundland, Quebec, Territories.
* At least have Newfoundland have its own state-tan. I mean it was the last province to join and the last bit of land that Canada aquired. And Newfoundland was a separate colony during both world wars and it is also where the vikings landed way back when.

[[WMG: Denmark and England are directly related]]
Denmark conquered England and unified with him back in the 11th century, and the Danish influence on England was the single largest, arguably. To this day, thousands and thousands of places in England have Danish (well, Norse) names and were named by Denmark, and up to 40% of people in some parts of England have Danish or Norwegian blood. The English language is also largely drawn from Norse, and English and Danish are weirdly similar languages. Plus, look at Denmark's eyebrows. They aren't on England's scale, but they're the biggest of anyone who isn't part of the England family.
* They're also both heavy drinkers.
* Hmm, historically speaking, the term 'England'was used well before the Viking invasion (it literally means 'land of the Angles' after all), so England-the-person would have been around before then too. On the other hand, the Angles themselves came from an area which now covers parts of both northern Germany and southern Denmark. Other contributors to the population at the time that England came into being were the Britons and Romano-British, Saxons, Jutes and Frisians (maybe, no one's 100% sure about that one). The Saxons were from what is now Germany, while the Jutes homeland is believed to also include part of Denmark. As for the language, Old English was the language of the Anglo-Saxons, although odds are that it had the same root as old Danish, hence the similarity. The culture was much the same as well, IE: fight-happy and with the same gods (although their names were slightly different, eg Woden instead of Oden ect). In short, England's family tree is really flipping complicated, but I can see how he'd be more closely related to Denmark then Germany. Not sure how direct they'd be though, maybe it'd be more like uncle (Denmark) and nephew (England) or cousins rather then brothers.

[[WMG: Several supposedly male nations are actually [[SweetPollyOliver female]] ]]
Because of the prejudice against girls doing things that existed throughout history, they disguised themselves as males to command more respect. Candidates include
* Poland (because duh)
* Norway (Look at him/her?)
* Finland (There must be a reason why Sweden calls him/her the ''wife'')
* China(?) (This is more for the sake of having a TokenGirl on the main characters side, but considering how girls are treated in China, I wouldn't be surprised..)
** I can't speak for the others, but Poland has been naked in canon. Considering France, America, and an intoxicated England were all present as well, if Poland wasn't male there would have been something said.
** [[DudeLooksLikeALady China]], too, has been seen without a shirt/in a wife-beater/naked at some point, and he was definetly a male. Plus [[WordOfGod Himaruya]] himself has stated his gender outright. AND he has a GenderBender self, [[UnfortunateImplications so]]...
*** Link to Himuraya's statement or it didn't happen. I thought he said China was androgynous?
*** And I quote from China's character sheet: "Lampshaded in his entry on the official character chart: 'The only female member of the Allies. Not.'"
**** The identification map listed him as such, but it also did that to Lithuania and Poland who have been repeatedly confirmed to be male. I wouldn't put much stake in it, anymore.
** "He" could just be referring to himself as male to pass as male, and the others either don't know or are keeping it a secret. Maybe he's just androgyne and flat chested? His gender bender self is a boy dressed as a girl, to fit in with the other countries.
** One of Finland's innumerable objections to the marriage is that he's male, and (although not PC) the term 'wife' in a relationship is often used as a sign of dominance.
** Norway had an entire strip where he (as well as the other Nordics) referred to him with male terms. It was pretty much the point of that particular comic.
*** A coverup? Or maybe mistaken sex?
**** A cover up from who? For what reason? There's no point. And the Nordics (most of them, anyway) have been together for well over a millennia. Especially considering one of them is a hyperactive loud-mouth with little regard for other's wants, it would have come out and stayed out.\\
We still don't know China's sex for certain, but these speculations are getting out of hand. Yes, there was gender confusion in the series, but it was on two young children (who we already knew the real sex of, by the way) when all the discussion is on grown men. Just because you can apply such a concept to a few characters doesn't mean that everyone who isn't RatedMForManly should be automatically suspected.
***** "We still don't know China's sex for certain"? Oh for goodness' sake, [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/v2_014-024.html HIMA HIMSELF]] refers to China as male. Calling him big brother and comparing him to an old man...what more proof do you need?

[[WMG: Spain controls Paul the Octopus.]]
* Explains his win at the 2010 World Cup. No wonder why Germany, Prussia, and the Netherlands are eager to make dinner out of the poor cephalopod when Paul's bets are against them.
** Don't forget Argentina. They were actually passing around recipes.
** [[http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/15/paul-the-octopus-madrid-transfer Well...]]

[[WMG: Grandpa Rome is Quintus from the Cambridge Latin Course textbooks grown up.]]
Why? [[RuleofCool Because it's awesome.]] And I can't unsee it.
* Argh, now I can't either. Then maybe Melissa is Ancient Greece!

[[WMG: If they appear in strips, and those strips get into the anime, Hong Kong and Taiwan will be replaced by talking pandas.]]
See: Tibet. After the mess with Korea, the studio probably doesn't want to risk stepping on over a billion more toes.
** But with Korea, they cut out all of the strips. If they foresee a serious problem with any character, they'd probably just follow the exact same pattern.
*** Particularly to avoid the UnfortunateImplications of portraying a group who isn't exactly happy with your series as subhuman.
*** To clarify, the original troper was thinking of something more preemptive, as with the anime storyline with China and kid Japan where they replaced Tibet with a panda.

[[WMG: Austria is a Pianist from {{Elona}}.]]
He always has his piano because he carries it with him everywhere.

[[WMG: Finland, with some help from Sweden, secretly wrote ScandinaviaAndTheWorld]]
Thus, the Finland there is much more aggressive than he would usually be as an expression of his hidden frustration, while the Sweden there is portrayed as something akin to the OnlySaneMan because he is the one who is closest to Finland. Denmark, Norway, and Iceland are also shown in AlternateCharacterInterpretation because this is how Sweden and Finland perceive them. Sweden's relationship with Aaland and the recent Finland trolling were thrown out as [[RedHerring red herrings]] to keep the other nations from catching on to the author's true identity.
* What about America's total dumbness? And the Sisters?
** America is pretty ignorant around most countries, so Finland probably gets the impression that America is dumb. He gets further flanderdized in the comics for the sake of humor. The Sisters were thrown in as FanService when Denmark read the comic and complained that there were no chicks.
*** So Humon is really a living Hetalia cast member?!
** This troper adores this theory, but Finland pretty much said it himself that he views Belgium as [[CoolBigSis mature and cheerful]]. So how come ScandinaviaAndTheWorld's Belgium is, [[NerdGlasses well...]]
*** The story is being published on Denmark's account, so it could have been Denmark's idea of a joke, just like how the sisters were thrown in so Denmark would continue publishing the comics.

[[WMG: Sealand is England's son.]]
We don't really know how genetics work in Hetalia, and there's no real evidence of this, but there are a couple of things which suggest their relationship is different to England and his other brothers.\\
First off, they have the same surname in their human names. The only other two characters who this applies to are the Italy brothers, and they are the same country. Generally speaking, different countries who are siblings have different surnames. Sealand isn't really a country, of course, but this is still pretty odd.\\
Second, while countries such as America and Australia were discovered, and people settled there, Sealand was ''built''. Other places would have been claimed by someone else if England hadn't, but Sealand wouldn't have existed at all if it weren't for him.\\
So why does it call them brothers? I've got a few possible explanations.
* England so far has only ever referred to his family as 'brothers', and that seems to be the general thing to claim new nations as. So why, when a new 'nation' appeared who looked like him, would he assume anything but that this was another little sibling? As stated, we don't know how these things work in Hetalia, so it's quite possible that he hasn't even realised.
* So far, the only nations known to have direct offspring are Rome, Germania, Ancient Egypt, and Ancient Greece. These all have one thing in common: they're dead. Think about it, if something happened to you, and everyone else it had happened to was now dead, you wouldn't be particularly keen to acknowledge that the event had happened.
* England basically disowned Sealand. Yes, he still looks out for him, but he rejected him. Rejecting a brother, while bad, isn't as bad as rejecting your own child. Either to keep up appearances with others, or to soothe his own guilty conscience, England calls Sealand his brother.
* Regular people don't seem to have any idea about the personified nations. Since England and Sealand's official 'ages' are twenty three and twelve respectively, Sealand calling him 'Dad' among ordinary people would look very weird. Going with an above theory on human names, it may be very important to keep their true identities secret, so England makes sure that Sealand can't let slip anything that may raise unwarranted interest by not telling him the truth.
* If it hurt when a brother left him, how much worse would it be with a son?
** But he originally ''liked'' that brother. Sealand... not so much.
*** Or he's just pretending to hate Sealand because it doesn't want to get hurt. He clearly cares about him.

As an extra to any of these ideas, England could have had a change of heart (or realised the truth) by now and decided to tell Sealand the truth, but changed his mind when he saw that Sealand was happy with Sweden now.
** I think the problem is, not just with this theory, what makes a nation directly descended and what makes them just related is confusing. Case in point: Norway and Iceland.\\
There is no evidence of people on Iceland before Norwegians settled there, which would seem to make Norway his parent. Despite this, they're brothers. In the same way, there were no people on Sealand until some [[strike:crazies]] citizens from the UK decided to settle there. If a relationship like that of the Nordics is firmly fraternal (somehow), I don't see a reason Sealand would be different.
*** Yes, it is very confusing, and as I said there isn't really evidence, it's just speculation. But as I see it, there ''is'' a difference, in that even if Norwegians hadn't settled in Iceland, the body of land would still have been there. Sealand is located on a manmade construction, which would not have been there if the UK hadn't built it. But there is no real evidence as to why this would make things different, so it is only speculation.
*** Regarding the Nordic situation, the second explaination given above would probably apply there as well. When having kids is seen as a sign that your days are numbered the last thing you'd want to do is tempt fate. Plus this troper has always figured that familial relationships in Hetalia were usually more of a state of mind then anything else. As for Sealand, that kid is pretty much one of a kind (he's the only man made nation for a start) so it's entirely possible that the usual rules don't apply, whatever said rules may be.

[[WMG: Russia/Sweden aren't the tallest nations.]]
Netherlands is. The nation-tan's height is supposed to be based off the average for its country, right? In that case, Netherlands would be the tallest, taller than Russia and Sweden.
* If its based on average height then Canada would be the second tallest which would coincidentally also work in regards to country size because he's the second largest country on the planet.
* [[http://www.interbasket.net/news/4385/2009/09/average-height-by-country-males-20-years/ Average Canadians are nowhere near the tallest...]]

[[WMG: Turkey raped Hungary]]
Ottoman Hungary was especially rebellious, and Turkey was the closest thing to a BigBad ever seen in the series, considering Germany's.... [[{{Bowdlerise}} softening up]] during [[ThoseWackyNazis WWII]]. As for canon, see the strip where Prussia finds Hungary injured: She explicitly states that Turkey/Ottoman Empire left her like that, and her clothes are torn to the point where Prussia got a pretty good look at her cleavage without trying. Her reaction to this is commenting on her "awesome muscles", implying she doesn't seem to fully understand that she's a girl ''quite'' yet (and so wouldn't be able to fully grasp exactly what Turkey did beyond simply beating her up) But following dialogue makes it seem like it's starting to sink in, meaning whatever Turkey did made her understand once and for all that she wasn't one of the guys. Prussia being the focus of the strip was meant to distract us from what happened here. Looking at [[http://www.queendom.com/articles/articles.htm?a=5 this site]], it could also explain:
* (number two) Her settling down into a maid and marrying/maintaining a relationship with Austria, whose gentle, refined demeanor makes him probably the male character most unlike Turkey.
* (number five) Her reaction to Austria being sexually harassed and the whole YaoiFangirl CovertPervert thing.
Her relationship with Prussia ([[HomeSweetHome wanted nothing to do with him one settled]], [[UnresolvedSexualTension beats him up]]) could be either of the above or a mix of both. She also seems like she's having a nightmare when God wakes her up and tells her about hitting France with a frying pan, but that may be stretching it a little.
* This theory makes too much sense for my liking. I will say that I seem to remember Hungary having a happy little giggle to herself at the end of the strip mentioned, which doesn't seem like all that natural a response, even if she didn't fully understand what had happened.

[[WMG: Canada is [[WebOriginal/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Bandit Keith]].]]
He finally cracks and goes insane after one too many incidents of being mistaken for America, changes his name and appearance, adopts 'in America!' as his catchphrase, and becomes obsessed with a Japanese childrens' card game, like real Americans do (cough[[TabletopGames Pokémon]]intheninetiescoughhackwheeze). It all makes sense now. In America.

[[WMG: Canada is the reason America is scared of ghosts]]
Canada borrows something and America thinks it's vanished. Canada puts something back in the wrong place and America thinks it moved on its own. Canada tries to talk to America and America hears mysterious whispering noises. Despite being barely visible, Canada successfully emotionally scarred his brother.
* Headcanon. ''' ''ACQUIRED.'' '''
* Best WMG ever.

[[WMG: HRE had a HeroicBSOD and became Germany because he finally learned [[DroppedABridgetOnHim the truth about Italy]]]]
A older HRE returned to Austria's house hoping to see his true love. He tells Austria and Hungary he's changed his name to Germany and given up his dreams of conquest for Italy's sake. Hungary, [[YaoiFangirl being who she is]], is thrilled. Austria attempts to break the news gently, but HRE passes out. When he wakes up the only thing he remembers is his name being Germany and that he wanted to form a large empire. Austria decides not to say anything because he'd have to explain why Italy was dressed like a girl in the first place.

[[WMG: Switzerland and Austria mend their broken friendship]]
Austria and Switzerland had a falling out specifically because the Hapsburgs moved their seat of power from what would become Swiss territory to Austrian land. However, the Austro-Hungarian Empire does not last forever. In the aftermath of World War II, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria#Foreign_policy Austria]] becomes a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutral_country#Recognised_as_neutral neutral]] country (expressly modelled on the Swiss system, but developed a bit differently). IRL, this had to do with Austria bordering most of the Communist Bloc (Hungary and pretty much all its former empire being made into Soviet Satellites after their liberation). In Hetalia, however, this would result into Austria needing to rethink his priorities. Having lost his empire (and his wife) following WWI, he pretty much went with Germany (inter-war) without putting up a fight. However, WWII went about as well for them as the first one. With Hungary now on the other side of a giant fence, and with no desire to join either of the main Blocs in Europe, Austria decided to rebuild the one friendship he'd been wanting to fix. Cue him nervously knocking on Switzerland's door...

... and once Switzerland was convinced to put his gun away, the next scene would be of Switzerland doing his normal "lessons" on Neutrality. Only now, [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming Austria is sitting beside Liechtenstein and taking notes]]. Happily ever after... until the Iron Curtain falls and Austria joins the EU. ''' ''*BANG*'' '''
** Okay (minus that last bit), if that never gets into canon, then it ''needs'' to be a fan strip, because seriously... ''aww.''

[[WMG: In relation to the above theory, Austria and Hungary have a tearful reunion following TheGreatPoliticsMessUp]]

Being separated from your ex-wife (who you were forced to divorce) by a giant fence must suck. It's been noted on TheOtherWiki that [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria-Hungary_relations#After_World_War_II Austrians and Hungarians living near the border felt the isolation far more intimately than most places]] (except for, obviously, Germany). As well, Austrian and Hungarian officials symbolically cut the barbed wire of the Curtain to signal the end of the Cold War. Cue the tearful reunion.

[[WMG: Prussia and Austria's rivalry has to do with their geography.]]
Simply put, both claim to be the "East" German realm. Austria is literally "''Österreich''", meaning "Eastern Realm". Meanwhile, Prussia is basically the personification of the German "push east" in which they tried to colonize Eastern Europe by force. For the longest time, it was his entire ''raison d'ètre''. He even calls his brother Ludwig "West". Most of their rivalry is thus centred on the fact that [[ThereCanBeOnlyOne there can't be TWO East Germanys]]. After WWII, Austria thought that he had finally won, since it seemed that "Prussia" had died. Oh, how he must have fainted in shock upon seeing Gilbert stroll into that World Meeting sporting the name "German Democratic Republic", and even being recognized in common parlance as "East Germany". The horror!

Upon reunification, Gilbert lost the "GDR" title, but likely continued to be "East" due to cultural and geographic reasons. And now, Austria wonders if he'll ever be rid of him...

[[WMG: Romano knows more about what the nation-tans bosses do than the others]]Working on the assumption that the nation-tans aren't told about everything their bosses get up to (which I think we'd all like to believe, considering the nation-tans aren't complete monsters), basically exactly what it says. Romano is aware of what's going on with the human governments. This is why he hates Germany and Japan so much and doesn't want Italy hanging round with them. His being as useless as his brother when it comes to fighting could be deliberate, because 1: he doesn't want to win, and 2: he's hoping it will make Germany decide being allied with Italy is too much trouble. And his taunting Italy that Germany and Japan don't like him is kind of obvious.\\
A reason why Romano could have picked up on more could be that the bosses restrict how much access they're allowed to human media. With Italy having two nation-tans and N.Italy apparantly being their representative Romano may sometimes get forgotten about and be able to sneak looks at what's going on in the world.\\
Romano doesn't want to leave his brother alone with Germany and Japan, so he sticks around, even though he doesn't want to. Eventually, however, he decides he can't support them any longer, even if it does mean leaving Italy, which is why the allies were able to get Southern Italy first.

[[WMG: Similar to a previous guess: As France's genes were stronger than England's (in America's birth), ''Germany's'' genes were stronger than France's in the case of Cameroon.]]
Cameroon was once a German colony, but later a French one. In Hetalia-speak, you could say that while he was young, Cameroon was harshly raised by Germany. And if you take a look side-by-side, you could say that Cameroon looks almost like a black Germany.

[[WMG: Austria and Monaco are in-universe genderbends of each other.]]
They act very alike (harsh and uptight) and I'm pretty sure Austria is rather intelligent like Monaco is. And before Himaruya made her blond and blue-eyed (when she had brown hair and brown eyes) she looked very much like him.

Also it would be awesome.
* {{Jossed}}. Fem!Austria doesn't wear glasses.

[[WMG: Poland tried to bring the other Eastern European nations to his own territory after World War I to act as buffer to both Germany and Russia.]]
* I can see the history behind this one, since Poland did have pieces of what became Ukrainian and Belorussian territory. However, it seems more likely that he took over pieces of their territory to act as a buffer against all of them, rather than try to start a new empire (the last time he tried, he ended up losing Lithuania to Russia, followed by losing his own independence).
** History would disagree with you, after the Great War, Poland wanted to rebuild the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, which would attack Russia (Germany wasn't seen as a threat after WWI), but Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus didn't want any part of it.

[[WMG: Hungary is a FTM {{Transsexual}} living as a woman]]
.. Or she's just transgender, gender queer maybe.
* Well, she was originally supposed to be a guy, I think. Poland was gonna be a girl, but instead he was made into a crossdresser. So anything's possible.

[[WMG: [[http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6743/s640x480ud.jpg New Zealand]] is female]]
That's too feminine, even for the {{Bishonen}} loving Hetalia.
* I agree that they look more female than male. I hope they are, because Hetalia needs more girls.
* Also, New Zealand was the first country in the world to allow women to vote. I hope New Zealand's a girl. A kickass one at that.
* Their [[http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/images/hetalia/d/d9/Miniw_1.jpg new]] [[http://www.shoutwiki.com/w/images/hetalia/6/69/NZland.jpg drawings]] is even more ambiguously feminine. But they have no hair-decs, which usually signifies countries as a girl. Maybe the mangaka's breaking the rules?
** Well, Norway is a male and he has a [[http://i.animecrazy.net/norway001.jpg hair-dec]], eh? It could go either way, but this troper is definitely hoping for a female.

[[WMG: Canada was supposed to be a main character from the first episode.]]
We just couldn't see him. You see, thanks to his invisibility effect, we only got to see him when he finally had [[ADayInTheLimelight some strips and episodes that focussed on him]]. To borrow from the Trivia section on Canada's page of the [[TheWikiRule Hetalia Archives]]: "''Canada is one of the Allied Forces during the second world war which would bring the total of Allied powers in the story to six, and is the third strongest Western Power and did contribute much in the war, but being under so much British Influence much of Canada's efforts were considered British efforts, which can be considered a contribution to Canada's invisibility. This could also would explain why Canada isn't often seen amongst the others when the Allies are acting together.''" Canada's RealLife contribution to the War effort was impressive, and is usually recognized more in the modern day, although largely unknown at the time since it was considered part of the British war effort. Thus, Canada was one of the nations at the World Meeting (obviously), had a seat at the Allied meetings (as actually seen in one episode), and likely confronted the Axis on that island multiple times along with the rest of the Allies. [[FridgeBrilliance He was simply so meek and invisible that neither the other characters nor the audience saw or noticed him]].
* Canada's accomplishments were considered British because the nation was a commonwealth at the time. This status makes him on par with countries like Australia and South Africa, who also don't get much more than a nod despite their efforts. In Hetalia terms, I'd say Canada probably rarely (if ever) was allowed to attend those meetings, and he was instructed later by UK. When he managed to get in, he probably had no option but to keep his mouth shut (which we see). That he fought in attacks isn't unlikely, but they would still be British efforts because he was British.
** Also, the idea of 'they show up, therefore they are main characters' kind of makes RedShirts main characters, too.
*** Well, this ''is'' [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters Hetalia]], the line between "Main Character" and "RedShirt" can get pretty blurry. The argument was really that Canada being under British rule for much of its history (note: this is just me being pedantic, but Canada was a "Dominion", part of the British Empire - later the "Commonwealth") and later with American influence taking its place, which is why he was so meek and thus overlooked at the meetings. England never told him not to talk, he just couldn't see him at all, just like the rest of the characters couldn't see him.
**** Despite the large cast, the 8 main characters have always been well defined. I think, considering Canada's role in the series and his invisibility through history, 'minor character' is a very fitting term.
*** The theory might not be so much that "Canada shows up, therefore he's a main character", so much as "Canada ''may'' have been a main character", but we just never saw him due to his invisibility, and was thus shunted down to RedShirt status. It's basically a play on the concept that for all the ''many'' countries that played important parts in WWII, only 8 are recognized as the "main players". It's a joke with the punch line "Canada represents everybody else!". Oddly enough, Canada [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hetalia:_Axis_Powers_characters#Canada is included as one of the allies]] on the Hetalia character page on TheOtherWiki. It makes more sense to say that he's considered one of the Allies, but only as a SixthRanger with very little focus.

[[WMG: Belgium actually represents only one region.]]
* Although she's indeed supposed to be representative of both regions of Belgium, she was actually merely representing the Walloons, since her official language back then was merely French.
* Or, she only represents Flanders, as she is described as Holland's sister

[[WMG: Belgium is developing a split personality]]
* While she used to be a lot more united due to Catholicism acting as a common focus for the country and the Francophones suppressing the Dutch-speakers, since the decline of religion and the resurgence of Flemish as a language she's feeling [[IncrediblyLamePun in two minds about everything]]

[[WMG: Vietnam will appear in volume 4]]
And She'll smack America/France with her paddle
** [[http://hetalia.livejournal.com/11140642.html Confirmed]] besides the smacking of America/France with her paddle.

[[WMG: Monaco DrivesLikeCrazy]]
And adores others that do so; hence [[FormulaOne the Monaco Grand Prix]]

[[WMG: Why Belarus might hate Lithuania]]
It's been said that she has been hurting Lithuania long since he became Russia's subordinate. Back when Lithuania was powerful, the states that would later become Belarus were conquered and became Lithuanian territory. In-universe, this could be the equivalent of him forcibly taking her from her siblings. It was only centuries later, in 1795 that she was able to return home when Poland was partitioned. Spending such a long time away from family must have been unbearable. The fact that Russia seems to favour Lithuania over her would make it even worse. The above could also explain why she is so desperate to marry Russia: because he is strong, she wants security and she never wants to be separated from him again.

[[WMG: Windows is a ShipperOnDeck for Belarus/Ukraine and wants you to hop aboard.]]
[[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/WINDOWS_IS_A_SHIPPER_9700.png Proof.]]

[[WMG: Hungary and Romania are twins]]

[[WMG: Russia and Belarus will eventually get married/engaged, no matter how incestuous that is]]
Because, you know, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Russia_and_Belarus Union State of Russia and Belarus]], anyone?

[[WMG: Canada looks so much like America because of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalists#Historical_loyalism The]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Empire_Loyalist Loyalists]].]]

He used to look a lot more like France, but the advent of the Loyalists borne from the Revolution caused Canada to transform from a predominantly French-based colony to several English and French ones. This is also the reason why Canada didn't gain too many features from England or his siblings: the majority of those Loyalists saw themselves as British North Americans, and thus Matthew took on an appearance similar to colonial Alfred. Perhaps the only exception to that is Canada's reddish blond hair in his original artwork, which could have been gained from Ireland or Scotland. The fact that so many Loyalists were American-based was part of the reason why the Americans thought that the 1812 War would be a cakewalk; it makes sense that it would also cause other countries to mistake the lesser-known brother for the more famous one.
* Canada is the fourteenth colony. They were actually invited to the Continental Congress in 1775, but they declined, along with Georgia. Georgia had a change of heart and came to the Second Continental Congress in 1776; Canada didn't.

[[WMG: Canada is [[SoulEater Crona]] ]]
and Kumajiro is Ragnarok but think about it both are shy, have parental issues and have sarcastic side kicks who bully them. All Canada needs to do is start murdering people and taking their souls for the sake of impressing his mother and honestly is it really that far fetched? Everyone keeps saying Canada will snap one day Crona is pretty much what Canada would act like once he's snapped.
* I think Russia is Crona. We've already seen that russia used to be a [[TheWoobie woobie]], and he was bullied by General Winter when he was younger, and then he snapped and became violent during the bloody saturday event.

[[WMG: Poland cross-dresses due to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth]]
When leaders met in 1565 to form the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_Lublin Union of Lublin]], the king of Poland and the Grand Duke of Lithuania [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigismund_II_Augustus Sigismund II Augustus]] decided it would be best to [[DisguisedInDrag disguise]] the personification of Poland. This way, Lithuania and Poland could legally marry each other due to [[ValuesDissonance values dissonance.]] Due to this marriage set up, Poland gained a newfound fetish for stylish woman's clothing and still explores it to this day in the manga and anime.

[[WMG: All will become one with Greece.]]
All the neko-tans are part of the Greek Army. One day, Greece will wake up and decide to take over the world. Starting with Turkey.

[[WMG: Lithuania developed a crush on Belarus when he saw her smile.]]

[[WMG: New Zealand is a girl pretending to be a boy.]]
I'm not sure why this theory appeals to me so much but it does. I personally think New Zealand looks more feminine, but the issue is that unlike every girl in Hetalia, they don't have hair decs, which indicates boy. Or that they want people to think they're a boy. Also explains the ShrugOfGod on the issue; Himaruya isn't going to lie to his readers, but he doesn't want to ruin the joke before it gets started.\\
I also like to imagine that only England and Australia know her real gender. England doesn't realise that no-one else does, and doesn't understand why they mock him for putting her in dresses as a child, and Australia is just having a massive laugh at everyone's expense.

[[WMG: Poland isn't actually that girly.]]
Especially considering how a crossdresser would likely be treated in RL Poland, he's just trying to mess with the other countries.

[[WMG:Belgium is France's half sister.]]

[[WMG:There is a character named Black America who is Alfred's longtime girlfriend/wife.]]
America is known for its large black population and it wouldn't be much of a stretch she could exist.She would evoke many African American stereotypes espically those of Black women.B.A. would be loud,matronly,be very religious,an excellent cook,conservative,obsession with her African roots,have a bit of a temper problem,and have a love for soul food and grape soda.I think she was born from the amount of African slaves coming to America from West Africa.I can even picture her being the mother of the original thirteen states.She was bought by England as a slave to work for America and to keep him company.B.A. and America would have grown close together to the point of harboring romantic feelings for one another though she still would resent being a slave.No, America would not have forced himself on her but have a secret mutual,quasi-romantic relationship with her but couldn't marry her until 1967 when interracial marriage was made legal.B.A. I have a feeling would always be tempted to runoff with other nations like France and Russia because she felt that she wasn't being fairly treated enough by America.She then would for some strange reason always comeback to Alfred for some strange reason.I think she would have had an active role in the Underground Railroad and greatly participate in the Civil Rights Movements.Heck, I believe she would have been a spy for the Union in the civil war.I think America and B.A. these days have a loving relationship but the past still puts a strain on them.However,Alfred these days does his best treat her like the first lady she is.

[[WMG: Hungary is a distant relative of Estonia and Finland.]]
Originally, there was the Finno-Ugric peoples. Some of them split away and travelled south, arriving in modern Hungary while the others stayed and would become the modern Finnish and Estonians. Over time the people living in Hungary mixed with other groups such as the Magyars, creating a seemingly unrelated nation.

[[WMG: Romano controls the mafia]]
* {{Jossed}}. There was an economic map drawn of modern Europe, and when it came to Romano he was sick and seemingly injured because of what the mafia was doing to him. In Hetalia terms, they're probably equivalent to bullies who beat him up for his lunch money every day. Bullies with guns.
** They were shown once, when Romano was trying to make Spain better. They tried to make him do what they wanted, which is apparently how it usually is. On that occasion though, he was determined enough to beat them.

[[WMG: Hungary's human name really is Erzebet.]]
Or, it was. Elizaveta is a Russian variant of the English name Elizabeth. It's possible before the Austro-Hungarian compromise her people called her Erzebet. Prussia and Austria call[ed] her Elisabet or some other German cognate. And while it was never part of the Soviet Union, it was still a satellite state, so perhaps Russia started calling her Elizaveta. And it stuck.

[[WMG: Latvia is Lithuania's nephew.]]
Himaruya has said that the Baltic States aren't brothers. It makes sense that Estonia isn't related to Lithuania and Latvia, as Estonia is Baltic geographically, but Finnic in terms of language, culture, etc. However, Latvia should be related to Lithuania in some way, as Latvian is a Baltic language. Latvia may not be Lithuania's brother, but he could definitely be Lithuania's nephew.

The state of Latvia did not officially exist until the fall of the Soviet Union, though it started to be known as a region in the 18th-19th century, which would fit with Lativa being so young. Before the area that is present-day Latvia came under the control of other nations, it was home to four different Baltic tribes: the Curonians (Courland), the Latgalians (Latgalia), the Semigallians (Semigallia), and the Selonians (Selonia). Their languages eventually died out (though its debatable if Latgalian did, as there is a "dialect" of Latvian called Latgalian that is similar to old Latgalian), and the lands they inhabited make up four of the five cultural regions of Latvia (the fifth is Livonia, land of the Livs, a Finnic tribe).

Latvia is the son of one of these extinct Baltic states, likely Latgalia.

[[WMG: Canada has been shipping USUK since 1854.]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Atlantic_triangle For his own well-being.]]
* I don't know... Canada tended to get furious whenever Britain chose America over him.

[[WMG:Canada and Ukraine have a long-term romantic relationship with each other.]]
The two countries both have a long history together.Many Ukrainian immigrants have come to Canada.The Canadian province Saskatchewan was made because of the influx of Ukrainian immigrants.In the Hetalia world Canada and Ukraine might actually have a child together.This makes Canada one lucky guy.
* Alberta having been created on the same day as Saskatchewan would be one of Ukraine and Canada's twins and well Manitoba has loads of Ukrainians too. Perhaps the prairie provinces are all their children?

[[WMG: In light of the recent earthquake Japan had experienced, Fukushima and Miyagi will be the first Japanese prefectures to be featured in the manga.]]
* As well as one of the Japanese feudal clans.
** He's not posting clans, but he already has put feudal domains into the comic.

[[WMG: Belarus is Lady Gaga.]]
* They both have long platinum blond hair
* They're both 'strange girls'
* They're both somewhat creepy
** So, uh, what about Lady Gaga's ex ''Matthew Williams''?
* Belarus x Canada?

[[WMG: Australia is a ''bad'' WellDoneSonGuy or StalkerWithACrush to England.]]
Historically, it would be pretty accurate. Early Australia as the country it was (I'm basically thinking Federation to WW2, even though Australia-tan would most likely have existed before that) was still ''very'' much obsessed with it's Britishness, and under British control. The only reason wee really federated in the first place was because of White Australia's fear of the influx of migrants (particularly the Chinese) thanks to the Gold Rush, so Australia became a country so we could have an immigration policy. Stuff like the White Australia policy was largely about staying the white, ''British'' colony we were founded as, one of our Prime Ministers justifying the policy as essential to "Australia remaining the integral southern outpost of the British Empire," or something like that. We never actually declared war in WW1, 'cause it was assumed we'd be at war just because England was. Another one of our Prime Ministers said "Australians are British to their bootstraps". When the Balfour Declaration was made in the early thirties, declaring all of their dominions autonomous and such - including Australia - Australia actually ''resisted'', and refused to ratify the treaty until 1942. That was after Darwin had been bombed, Britain had a lot of our troops and refused to give them back, pissing Australia off and pretty much ending the crush. But I can see Australia-tan following England around to almost Belarus-levels, switching between "TAKE CARE OF ME I NEED YOU DON'T EVER LEAVE", "LET ME DO THAT FOR YOU BECAUSE I LOVE YOU AND WANT TO BE A GOOD DOMINION", and some kind of [[SingleWhiteFemale Single White Nation-tan]] [[BuffySpeak thing]]. England would probably originally be flattered by Australia's attention/devotion, but eventually be a bit like "um, you can... be a little more independent now, okay? I don't mind." And Australia's like "No. *glomp*"
** I always imagined England wouldn't have been a great parent to Australia, after his experience with America, so I can see Australia developing a bit of an inferiority complex and feeling a need to prove what a good little brother he is, which could evolve into an obsession. Since Australians are probably the people most likely to get a warm welcome by Brits, England probably decided he'd take whatever affection he could get.
** I think Australia will be a devoted little brother who loves to tease England. Because honestly English tourists are hilarious, their ascents and how they buy stuff with Australian flags on it. In cricket (and anything else were its Auzzie's v the Pomms) it only matters if we beat the English, ever heard of the Ashes? What I wanna see is Australia's relations with America. Because in the post-WW2 era Australia was influenced most by the Americans. I can just see Australia in the anime deciding that England had fucked him over one time too many and realized how cool America is, and started following and copying America instead. (cant you imagine England wondering what happened to his little shadow?)
** You guys do realize that Australia was just allying himself with the major power at the time, right? We worked out that if there actually was an attack on us, Britain would probably not be strong enough to help. So Australia became America's 'sidekick' in hopes of protection. Something I wonder about is our Canada relationship - I'm hoping Australia can see Canada, but that would be ruining the Canada effect now wouldn't it? However, I think the only reason Australia tried to be 'British' was because England was sorta his only/main nation role model.

[[WMG: If there's a direct sequel to ''Paint it White,'' the antagonists would be...]]
Switzerland and Liechtenstein. Especially since [[spoiler: they were pretty much the only Nations apart from Iceland that got away from the AlienInvasion practically unharmed]]. And with the G8 basically weakened and the world in turmoil (with a few billion less people around), would it be surprising if the Alpine siblings decide to go on a campaign of global conquest?
** What about the non-UN member nations? It would be hilarious if Taiwan was the one leading them.
** I wouldn't be surprised if Iceland joined the siblings. Then again, they were literally having some intimate picnic time while just about ''everything'' around them was going to Hell and back.

[[WMG: Zealand's gender will get confirmed eventually, after being a RunningGag.]]
I can see some strip stating their gender somehow. "Running Gag" as in maybe the other nations are confused, they refer to NZ by different things, and Zealand doesn't state their gender.

[[WMG: Lithuania is the winner of Eurovision.]]
[[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/AxisPowersHetalia?action=edit#Link]]

[[WMG: Spain named Canada]]
One of the theories about where Canada got its name talks about Spanish explorers looking for gold. They listed it as ''acá nada'', or ''cá nada'', meaning 'nothing here'.
* Desperate for attention, Canada clung to the closest thing to a name he'd ever received.

[[WMG: Male!Ukraine is [[HeroicBuild built like a tank]] and/or [[GagPenis well-endowed himself.]]]]
Ukraine has...prominently feminine traits, so it would make sense for him to be incredibly masculine. Plus, with the former, it would make a good contrast with [[BigBeautifulMan Russia]] and [[{{Bishonen}} Male!Belarus.]]

[[WMG: Ukraine has Avoidant Personality Disorder]]
Think about it. She's terrified of disappointing her boss, and she doesn't want Russia to think badly of her. She is said to be a crybaby, and those with AvPD tend to react to criticism by blushing or crying.
** On that note, maybe Poland does as well. He may be confident and troublesome with those he knows and trusts, but he's painfully shy otherwise and scared of new people.

[[WMG: Korean Spirit = Korean Soul = Seoul]]
Am I really the only one who thought this? Really?
* [[http://www.hetarchive.net/scanlations/files/cazzo2.gif I do believe that's canon.]]

[[WMG: Sealand is the next Canada]]
Nobody knows he exists except Japan, England, Iceland, and Wy. That's ''now''. In a few hundred years, ''nobody'' will know he exists, except maybe England. After he sinks in the ocean (you know it will happen) he'll start sneaking into Canada's house and sleeping there. Canada never notices, though. He will eventually pick up Canada's randomly fading away. Before you know it, he will ''be'' Canada, hair and everything.

[[WMG: Thailand crossdresses in his spare time]]
* Actually, he use that as disguise to find hidden information and unlike other, his {{Ukefikation}} fandom tend to be a facade cause he unleash his badass a lot.
** *person who suggested this WMG* Actually, I based that off the concept of kathoey, which is what Thailand tends to be (stereotypically) associated with. It's not ukefication (femme =/= submissive), and he would still very much keep his BewareTheNiceOnes quotient, he'd just like to dress as a [[[[Bishoujo pretty girl}} for fun and fanservice.
*** Not everybody think that it's fun, plus, it may be more like {{Fandisservice}}.

[[WMG: When Thailand is at home, his personality switch to sadist and kinky]]
* He would smile, kind and be gentleman when he's outside but when he is at home, is pretty sadistic person.
* ''Possessing porn for personal use is not illegal''

[[WMG: Thailand has FoeYay with Burma and Cambodia]]

[[WMG: Sweden is Russia's father]]
From my understanding, Russia was founded by the Rus people in around the Viking era, who relocated there from Sweden, establishing the cities that would later turn into Russia and giving their name to the land ("Land of the Rus" = "Russia). Fanon seems to have the Viking era!Nordics being the same tans as the modern ones, and as far as I remember it was our Finland and Sweden discovering America in Viking era. So it makes sense for Sweden to found Russia. There's no real proof to them being blood related, but it's possible. If not father and son, they are probably related through some kind of way (eg. via the Kievan Rus or some kind of Viking-tan), or once said they were (like England and America).

[[WMG: Romania is a vampire]]
Specifically a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strigoi Strigoi]]. It explains the red eyes and CuteLittleFangs. Alternatively, he is the in-universe inspiration for them seeing as how he is effectively immortal (just like all the other tans) and apparently uses BlackMagic.

[[WMG:Romano is CampStraight]]
* But he isn't camp.
* What I meant to say is that, although he's had HoYay and is tsundere around Spain, he's only into women.
** YourMilageMayVary on that one.

[[WMG:Romano represents Sicily, and that is why he is still around.]]
Historically, "Southern Italy" was essentially Sicily, Naples, and eventuallt the Kingdom of Two Sicilys, and it's still an autonomous region with a distinct language and culture. It's also the place most strongly associated with TheMafia.

[[WMG:Turkey is the future [[Warhammer40000 Imperium of Man.]] And probably the God Emperor, too. ]]
It's mentioned that the God Emperor of Mankind was born in Anatolia, where Turkey would later emerge. So maybe Turkey got on his good side at some point, over time assuming different identities until he became known as the Imperium.

But by the 41st Millennium, however, the notions of personified countries would likely be viewed by the Inquisition as heresy. So he may have taken on various roles in the Imperial Guard, conveniently "dying" should people start suspecting him. It also wouldn't help that he would also be the LastOfHisKind, assuming that China's still lurking somewhere...

[[WMG: Romano's temper represents Mt. Etna.]]

[[WMG: Hungary is related to [[FullmetalAlchemist Riza Hawkeye]].]]
* Both are scarily proficient in their weapon of choice, and just as scarily quick to use it (Hungary's frying pan, Hawkeye's gun).
* Both are extremely loyal to a male direct superior (Austria and Roy Mustang respectively).
* And look at the names: RIZA Hawkeye, eLIZAveta Hedervary.
** [[JapaneseRanguage Note that the /l/ and /r/ sounds are interchangeable in Japanese; Hawkeye's first name is sometimes spelled "Liza" or "Lisa" in the manga.]]
* The only problem: Hawkeye wouldn't be too happy about Roy/Ed.
* And no one brings up the fact that they had the same [[MichikoNeya seiyuu]]?
* Or that both of them look hot in ''and'' out of uniform?

[[WMG: New Zealand is the {{Transsexual}}, or transgendered, one]]
I'm going for Bigender, androgyne, or FtM but anything goes.

[[WMG: Romano ships China and England]]
* His [[VerbalTic verbal tic]] "chigi" sounds like is could be a [[PortmanteauCoupleName ship name]] for China and Iggy/Igirisu.

[[WMG: In ''[[TheMovie Paint it White]],'' Switzerland and Liechtenstein were spared the AlienInvasion for more than just Permanent Neutrality.]]
Setting aside the odds that a race of alien invaders would be aware of Earth-based politics, there's good reason to suspect that the Alpine siblings' seemingly inexplicable escape from the Pict's hijinks had something to do with [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN CERN's]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Large_Hadron_Collider Large Hadron Collider]] being in Swiss territory. That, and maybe the fact that the Alps are [[CrazyPrepared honeycombed with bunkers and armed strongholds]] designed to fend off just about ''anything.'' This could also tie to an earlier WMG suggesting that the two ''could'' become the new antagonists in a direct sequel to the movie, given that they'd be more than able to take on a world just weakened by the Pict...

[[WMG: India is actually a {{bifauxnen}}]]
Himaruya did say India is similar to Hungary, the manliest character in Hetalia.
* I thought they might be similar in that both of them are known for having spicy cuisine?

[[WMG: Liechtenstein is into [[GothicMetal gothic metal]]]]
[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elis_%28band%29 See]] [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlSfVtu1Pvk here.]]

[[WMG: HRE became Schroder from {{Peanuts}}]]
They do share physical similarities, and Schroder is obsessed with German/Holy Roman Empire music (namely Beethoven). It could easily be that after his supposed "death," HRE was actually just in a comatose state for many years and eventually awoke in a town at America's house. He didn't age or grow, because the fall of the nation he represented stunted his growth. So he eternally is trapped as a young boy in a town along side Charlie Brown and Snoopy, lamenting over his separation from Italy by playing piano and attempting to replace Italy's place in his heart with Beethoven. The reason he refuses Lucy's feelings is because some part of him still thinks he'll be able to find Italy again.

[[WMG: Canada in the CodeGeass Universe is actually the Holy Britannian Empire.]]
The Holy Britannian Empire and Canada are both founded by British Loyalists in North America.
* Except that Canada was not ''founded'' by Loyalists at all. It was the refuge they went to when America broke away, but they didn't start it. It had been around for a while - Britain took the already-established colony from France initially.

[[WMG: Ladonia is a Pokemon fanboy.]]
We've seen that his laptop is covered in Pokemon stickers, most noticeably Pikachu and what appears to be Woobat. Plus, he was playing a Pokemon game on a Gameboy (hard core gamer, much?) and introduced himself to Denmark by saying, [[MemeticMutation "I'm the internet country Ladonia! My favorite Pokemon is Stunfisk!"]]
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[[folder: Other Characters]]
!Other Characters
WMG regarding the [[AxisPowersHetalia/ThoseWhoDoNotSeemToFitAnywhere official non-nation characters]] goes here.

[[WMG: Tony is the Nation-tan of an alien planet.]]
No need to explain this one.
* So maybe he's more like a "planet-tan"?
** [[ShapedLikeItself Or the nation-tan of a planetary nation]]?

[[WMG: Tony is Puerto Rico.]]
After all, it's in a weird limbo, a part of the US that feels like an independent country. And this would explain why he lives in America's house.
* Tony is a chupacabra?

[[WMG: America is illegally subletting parts of his home to Tony.]]
[[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic Which means he's an]] [[IncrediblyLamePun illegal alien]].

[[WMG: Kumajiro does know who Canada is; he just likes to mess with him.]]
[[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/1124276.html Proof. "I asked who about someone other than Canada?"]]
* [[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/338610.html More Proof: "You are Canada, find something to show you are Canada."]]

[[WMG: General Winter is an AnthropomorphicPersonification of [[DepartmentofRedundancyDepartment Win]][[CaptainObvious ter.]]]]
Russia apparently made a pact with General Winter as a child, which may be the reason to why the Northern Nations and Siberia are all so cold.
* General Winter is actually another name for Russian Winters, made up by invaders who failed due to the climate. He was known as the "Czar's deadliest soldier".

[[WMG: Germany's unseen boss is {{Adolf Hitler}}]]
It's pretty obvious
* This is Wild Mass Guessing. The "stating the obvious" entry is [[CaptainObvious this way]].

[[WMG: Alternatively, Germany's unseen boss is [[TheGreatDictator Adenoid Hynkel]].]]
With Hetalia having elements of PoliticallyCorrectHistory, this would be an interesting twist in what we all thought was the obvious truth.

[[WMG: Hanatamago actually represents the Åland Islands.]]
* Hmm. That's actually semi plausible, although it begs the question of why the Aland Island's nation-tan is a dog.
** It's a ''lot'' better than ending up as someone's glasses or stray bit of hair, and oodles better than being a nipple. (No really... poor Corsica) And also, Hanatamago's cute, isn't she?

[[WMG:Kumajiro represents the Northwest Territories.]]
Or, alternatively, "Northern Canada" as a whole. Kumajiro is a polar bear, which is known to live in Canada's Northern territories, and the reason he's so small despite his species is due to the lack of development up north.
** Additionally, maybe his role as a pet is symbolic of how dependent the northern populations are upon their southern brethren.
*** And his constant presence around Canada could represent how Canadians are never really that far from the Frontier/the North. It could also represent how Southern Canada is just as dependent on the North's resources as the North is dependent on the South's infrastructure, economy, and population. It's a symbiotic relationship, but one that neither recognizes, either because Canadians don't see it as important, or they don't know enough about it (trust me, this is true for many Northern and Southern Canadians when asked about the other parts of the country). That's why Canada and Kumajiro can never get each other's names down! (who?) Or, they could just be messing with each other, as stated above.

[[WMG: When the kappa said goodbye to England and left Japan's house, it went to [[VideoGame/{{Touhou}} Gensokyo]].]]
* Because that's the only place it'd be able to live happily. Maybe the little girl was Reimu.
** And the Tengu he was waving at was Aya. ... Quick! Somebody! Crossover fic!

[[WMG: Prussia's little bird actually represents the Prussian coat of arms.]]
See also the guess above this one. Not only will Prussia live on, but he's got the flag-tan to prove it!
** That has broader implications you have to address, though. A: Where are the other flag-tans? And B: The Nation-Tan is a representation of a culture; so people associate themselves with it. The people who associate(d) themselves with the Prussian flag/coat of arms considered themselves Prussian, and not what I suppose would be called flagian. How can one exist if nobody associates with it?
*** While this WMG is probably wrong, it has caused this troper to keep thinking of the eagle on Prussia's flag as Gilbird, whether they want to or not.

[[WMG: ALL the tans are actually an Alien species - Tony is their momma]]
It's an alien species that's somewhere between symbiote and a parasite lays eggs on planets with the potential for sentient life, usually tucking caches of the eggs in areas particularly liking to foster civilizations judging by the locations of the most evolve species. These eggs can lay dormant for millennia. When the cohesive thoughts and emotions of a people reach the eggs, the one at the top of the grouping will enter a stage of activity, using the thoughts and emotions to create a beings that can walk among the sentient beings above as one of their own. The alien-being, however, gains sustenance and near-immortality as long as the culture that created them flourishes, even if daily sustenance can also be gained by eating edibles. (Also, due to the sentient species on their planet talking longer than expected to reach North America, only two eggs were viable - Canada and America. The Aliens realized their miscalculation in time to lay new broods in South America, though) Eventually, Humans and the "countries" will realize around when the sentient species develops Interstellar travel capabilities, and the "countries" will hit the True Puberty of their species. (Also, Tony is their mother/guardian/caretaker of the hatched on the planet.) Canada and America, due to how late they were born have some physical issues, to say the least. They went through cycles of adult forms and child forms, at least until they had the stabilizing influences of others of their species (And the Mythological Twins in North America were based on them and the legends spread like wildfire, LOL). America actually has more issues than Canada, thus why Tony sticks so close to him. The physical forms they took on at their birth don't always match their true genders - thus, Hungary growing up thinking she'd be a he is actually true.
* This would also explain Poland. Poles have a view of their nation as being female (much like other "motherland" concepts), and so the male Feliks became a crossdresser in order to be truer to what his "true gender" should be. The question is, does America know the truth about the nation-tans, or does he just see Tony as a benefactor who has an interest in helping him? Perhaps the reason America and Canada were able to grow so fast was because England and France (having already gown up) helped them "speed along the process". Now Tony is paying attention to them due to any unforseen consequences of this prodigious growth...
* The need for culture could potentially be [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Power]]. The presence of the Anti-Spiral shifted the nation-tans relationship from Parasites to Symbiotes. Furthermore, they didn't start looking human until after they were exposed to a certain amount of Spiral Power and grow emotionally closer to humans the more they were exposed.

[[WMG: Tony is the nation-tan of the moon.]]
He lives at America's house because America planted a flag on the moon. Tony is an amalgamation of the moon landing, pulp sci-fi fiction, and the tradition of planting a flag on land you claim for your country. He's not human because there are no human settlements on the moon (yet).
* If he came because of the moon landing, he shouldn't have shown up for 14 years after he befriended America.
* There are a lot of theories that Tony is a Tan, but it's probably more likely he stands for nothing more than the beliefs of the culture in the same ways that England/Japan's various creatures do.
* Would actually make a pretty funny plot point if Chile appeared, since a chilean man bought the moon in the late 80s(no, [[http://www.lunarregistry.com/info/embassy.shtml SERIOUSLY]]), and even tough the UN declared the moon not to have any owners, chilean people still defend that they own the moon, to the point of [[MemeticMutation Memetic Mutation]]

[[WMG: China's dragon boss is the representation of the Communist Party.]]
The staff could not portray the communist leaders for fear of provoking the Chinese.
* Shouldn't it be the exact opposite? The Chinese Dragon was actually a sort of mascot for China, ''until'' the Communists took over and destroyed as much traditional Chinese culture as they could find. I always sort of thought the Dragon boss represented the spirit of Chinese traditions that people still cling to, even in the midst of the world pressure to Westernize.
** It's evidently both. How, you ask? Simple: China's dragon is in fact the representation of ''The Mandate of Heaven'', that spirit of the traditions of the Chinese people which determines who a rightful "Boss" should be. China is so old, and the Mandate idea established at least 2000 years ago (when China was himself at least 2000 years old), that the sheer amount of China's culture and traditions allowed a separate entity to appear. One who's purpose is to judge the worthiness of China's rulers. Regimes, dynasties, and bosses may come and go, but the Mandate is forever, waiting for the day that the Communists lose the will of heaven (read: The People's belief in their ability to govern) and get replaced by the next regime (whatever it may be), just as the ROC and the Qing Dynasty both lost the Mandate. The above idea that the Communists attempted to destroy it could still be valid, since ideas like the Mandate can run opposite to the Communist ideal of "The End of History", as well as their own desire to modernize China and remove such "outdated" ideas.

[[WMG: Tony is actually Mexico-tan]]
...This may sound a tad [[UnfortunateImplications unfortunate]], but Tony is an [[StealthPun alien]] that lives in America's house. Also, Tony is a common name for Hispanics.
** America refers to Tony and Mexico individually, so this at least is one UnfortunateImplication that doesn't happen in the series.

[[WMG: Russia's boss is trying to kill him.]]
See [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/rsa.html this strip]]
Why would you give the personification of your nation such a dangerous job unless you actually wanted him dead? It is insane, of course, but this is {{Josef Stalin}}, and from what I know, it somehow seems like the kind of thing he would do. Maybe Russia is seen as a sign of the past, not a symbol of the USSR, and Bloody Sunday would hardly have stood him in [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/russ.html in good stead]]. But seeing as this is [[{{Psychopathic Manchild}} Russia]] we're talking about, you wouldn't want it to be too obvious you were trying to murder him, and so he just gives him the most dangerous jobs he can.\\
Alternatively, he's not actively ''trying'' to kill him, he just doesn't care if he dies, for the reasons stated above.

[[WMG: The fat lady who work as a teacher in the Gakuen Hetalia game is [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_African_Union_member_states the African Union]].]]
[[http://i29.tinypic.com/6ofthw.png This lady]]. All the teachers in World Academy are like this, the old man [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations Mr. UN]] (from [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/files/mikan2.gif this]] strip) is the Principal and the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Organization World Trade Organization]] is the school nurse.

[[WMG: [[GagDub Herr Schtick]] is the personification of the [[ThoseWackyNazis German Nazi Party]]]]
It stands to reason that the stick appeared near the end of WorldWarI, since that was when things started going bad for the Germans, leading to the loss of the War, the Versailles Treaty, the Great Depression, and the rise of the Nazis. Hitler becoming Germany's boss was when Herr Schtick made his bid for control of the Reich. Because, as we all know, Germany has a serious [[IncrediblyLamePun stick up his ass]]. Once the War starts to go south for the Axis, Italy will realize that he just wants to be happy with Germany. Since, IRL, the Italians switched sides near the end of the War when Mussolini was basically deposed, Feliciano will, in a rare moment of bravery, [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/6174139/1/Herr_Stick get rid of Herr Schtick for good... by setting him up to run away with Flying Mint Bunny]].

[[WMG: Kumajiro is a figment of Canada's imagination.]]
Since poor Canada is always getting ignored, he needed an imaginary friend.
* A common fan theory is that Kumajirou is a teddy bear that Canada has given an [[IJustWantToHaveFriends imaginary personality]]. When/if anyone else notices, they tend to grow a little concerned.
** ''If'' anyone even notices... Alfred and Arthur are the only ones really in any position to do so (in canon), and they tend to forget Canada pretty quickly. Besides, there was a drawing I recall seeing by Himaruya that shows a young colonial Canada and America interacting with Kumajiro.

[[WMG: United Nations is actually Earth, the teachers in Gakuen Hetalia are the continents.]]
[[http://aph.starry-sky.com/files/mikan2.gif I think UN]] looks awfully old to say he's younger than most of the nations. Really, he just represents Earth, but because there's not a lot to do in that role he takes the most appropriate job he can get. As for Gakuen Hetalia, there must be some significance to the nations being in continent classes. An earlier guess was that the African class teacher was the African Union, which would also fit in here; just like Earth, they take appropriate jobs.
** Or alternatively, he used to be the League of Nations. But given how ''that'' turned out, it's likely that his age may have been the result of his rapid slide to incompetence and irrelevance. Looking it that way, taking up the role of the UN could be a sort of "second chance."
** I honestly just assumed, upon first reading the strip, that the old man was just a representative ''from'' the United Nations. Aside from {{Fanon}} (fan theories and a reference to him on the Hetalia Wiki), is there anything that actually confirms that he's a "-tan"?
*** When you put it that way... no. But I like my theory. And if Japanese prefectures get personifications the surely it's not beyond the bounds of belief that the UN - and Earth - should?
**** His name is '''Mr. UN''' and given that '''Mr. Newspaper''' is canon and there's one for every country I don't see why would be so hard for him to be the United Nations.
***** Like I said: when I ''first'' read the strip. Given all the micronations, prefectures, and provinces that have appeared, it doesn't seem the farfetched that the U.N. would have a personification. However, the old guy first appeared, it was long before Himaruya went on his "micronation blitz". That being said, Himaruya could have wanted to have the UN be represented by the old guy all along, and was meaning to make smaller -tans after he had gotten a number of countries out of the way, or Mr. UN has been retconned into a -tan, or [[SureWhyNot Himaruya liked the idea of a UN character and ran with it]]. And where did it say "'''Mr. UN'''"? The strip I read simply had "U.N." floating over a guy that slightly resembled Colonel Sanders? In any case, I did enjoy the theory. And considering how many people seem to think that there is a "Native America" personification, along with possible tribes, it would be downright fitting for the African teacher to represent Africa as a continent.

[[WMG: Tony has a cousin named Paul.]]
There's a movie coming out soon, called ''Paul'', and the tititular alien looks awfully familiar...
* Or, this could be Tony's breakout role as Paul...
** [[CreditsGag Alfred F. Jones as Hero.]]

[[WMG: Australia's Koala is f*cking evil.]]
I know it's been said to death, but [[http://pics.livejournal.com/melcratch/pic/0000852s LOOK AT HIM!]] The damn thing is giving a Nazi salute! It even has it's left arm behind it's back and a nose similar to a toothbrush mustache, like [[EvilOverlord some over-the-top dictator]]. The evil eyes really don't help.
* Maybe it's just a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_bear drop bear.]]

[[WMG: Australia's Koala is TheManBehindTheMan.]]
Likely, he's the personification of the DeathWorld / EverythingTryingToKillYou aspects of Australia. Oz knows not to mess with him, so he just let's the Koala run the place. That's why Australia also appears to be giving the Nazi Salute; the Koala must be coercing him somehow. The rest of the world is just relieved that they don't have to share a landmass with him.

[[WMG: Australia's Koala is like Sweden.]]
It looks terrifying but, really, it just wants to cuddle -- hence why Australia is so willing to carry it around. He's knows it's secretly a marshmallow inside.
* Not sure man, in RealLife [[KillerRabbit koalas are pretty vicious animals.]]
** So are [[{{UsefulNotes/Denmark}} the Swedes]].

[[WMG: Mochimerica was the one who took the embarrassing pictures.]]
We saw him when he took the one with Iggimochi, is obvious he's working for France or alternately...

[[WMG: Picardy was the one who took the embarrassing pictures.]]
The pictures are from the ''April Fool's Aftermath'' Game and we will see them when Himaruya releases the whole game.
* Confirmed! Well, that he took the pictures, that is.

[[WMG: Tony is the nation-tan of Brazil.]]
Because it'd be [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varginha_UFO_incident hillarious]] if it was real.

[[WMG: Australia's Koala is a [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dropbear Dropbear]].]]
Just a thought, considering how evil it looks as discussed by an above WMG.

[[WMG: A nation's pet will live as long as the nation does.]]
Think about it. These nations have had their pets for a long time. We see [[FanNickname Gilbird]] delivering a letter to Austria and Maria Theresa regarding the invasion of Silesia, and then we see him again in the present. Tony, America's alien friend, has been around since Roswell in the 1940s. My theory is that, once a nation picks its companion, a special bond is made, and that pet/friend/whatever will remain with the nation for as long as the nation lives. So, if Prussia were to suddenly disappear, Gilbird would do the same, as he has already far exceeded a bird's normal life span (if he had been a baby bird during Maria Theresa's rule, he'd be 400-something or 500-something years old today).

[[WMG: All the Mochis have special filling inside them.]]
Well, they're [[CaptainObvious mochis]], and usually mochi has fillings inside. Them, being mochis, have filling correspondent with their respective nation's food stereotypes. [[AccidentalNightmareFuel And of course they can be eaten. When eaten, their body dissolves into said filling, making them one big giant food stock of all the nations around the world when they're hungry]]. The fillings are, for example:
* Mochitalia's filling is pasta sauce.
* Mochipan's filling is regular red bean paste.
* Mochimerica's filling is ground meat/bacon/pork.
* Mochigirisu's filling is [[SpotOfTea tea]].
* Mochifuransu's filling is wine.
* Mochicanada's filling is [[CanadaEh maple syrup]].
* Mochirussia's filling is [[VodkaDrunkenski vodka]].
* Blockgermany's filling is beer. That is, if you can chew through its very tough outer body, though.


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[[folder:Hetaliaverse]]

[[WMG: When a Nation-tan is about to disappear, it becomes human.]]

First some canon base: [[WordOfGod Himaruya said]] in one of his notes that [[PerpetualFrowner Germany]] had other siblings (namely Saxony, Bavaria, Holstein, and so on) and that they simply passed the baton to Germany and then either retired, lived on their territories [[HikikoMori without visiting anyone anymore]], or slowly faded away. Thinking about it, it kinda makes sense: when a nation stops existing, either by conquering or political change they lose whatever [[AWizardDidIt magical trait]] they have that makes them age differently. Then they become normal humans and start aging from there. If, for example, England disappeared as a nation at, say, 23 years old (nation-tan age, not actual age of course), he'd then continue aging year by year (next year, he'd be 24) and be now exposed to die by wounds, sickness, old age and everything else that can kill [[{{Muggles}} normal people]].
* That would also explain why Prussia is still around despite technically not existing anymore, he may have actually aged, but being as awesome as he is, it doesn't show.
** This has been kind of my headcanon for a while now. My own reasoning being that in the Chibitalia strips, Rome is shown as an old man after running off with Italy when the empire fell.
* This seems to have been confirmed. In the Micronation event it was said that Nikko Nikko was now a normal Japanese citizen and would grow old like other people; however it did say that it would be harder for bigger countries to "revert back to normal people" (which sort of implies that they were originally human too).

[[WMG: Barjona Bombers and Advance! Kitakou Broadcasting Club are set in the same universe as Gakuen Hetalia.]]

All of the main characters in Himaruya's ealier series also represents certain administrative units (Japan's cities and prefectures) but does it in a less direct way than Hetalia. Therefore, it is possible that this is an extention of the HighSchoolAU, with the focus being Japan's various prefectures. In the main Hetalia universe, the characters shown in those series lack their human names and are direct personifications of the places that they represent. (Yamato is Nara and Miyako is Owari, etc.) The versions of Noto and Yamato appearing in the deleted Christmas strips are the main Hetalia universe versions of them, meaning they are actually Prefecture-tans intruding on a party for Nation-tans. They went unrecognized because Japan was not present at the time.
** Jossed, in the HetaliaBloodbath2010 Himaruya introduced a different Osaka, though Himaruya even {{Lampshade}}d the similarities between him and a character in one of those universes.

[[WMG: The nations are a separate race.]]
* This explains why they seem to age so oddly, and are seen among other people as well. A new one is "born" every time a new nation is, or will soon be, created.

[[WMG: The nation-tans are born from the land itself.]]
* It's not logical (as far as you can consider APH logical) that the nation-tans would have parents in flesh and blood or themselves give birth as this puts up some serious questions:
** What about Nations that would have more than 2 parents? (Example: America being a conglomeration of several colonies)
** The so very plausible Mpreg, anyone?
*** Or if the nations could pull off a momentary sex change (male -> female and back), why is it never mentioned?
** Where are the mothers?
*** The very few girls/women in Hetalia would have to pregnant non-stop if they'd have to be the mothers for all the countries unless we have a few bridges suddenly dropped on us
*** If the mothers are humans, why are they never mentioned? I mean, giving birth to nation should be somehow honoured?
** What about countries whose exact "birthday" isn't known? Not every country has a grandious day of foundation recorded by several documents, many just get somewhere along the line a mention that they have been existing.
** We never see babies, only little kids/chibis that are already walking and talking
* By looking at the nation-tans as incarnations born by the very land they represent as soon as people start to think of it as a separate political-social entity (just imagine them waking up one day laying on the ground somewhere in the middle of their countries, no one else around them and with no recollection of how they came to be or rather "awaken" for the first time like children aorund the ages of 5 do) you get those questions out of the way
** As to why they refer to each other with family relationships: similar land will bear similar people
*** Example: Switzerland and Liechtenstein looking similar as they both were born by the alps, so to speak, and the two Italies look like twins since they represent each one half of the Italian peninsula
** Older nations can, by influencing through culture and occupation, those that live there and thus be "the creators = the father/mother", sometimes even adopting their "creations" as children or grandchildren
*** Example: Greece refers to Ancient Greece as his mother since she occupied the land before him, making her his predecessor and founder of his culture
*** Another example: when America/Alfred was discovered, the nation-tans around him (France, England and ?) tried to find out whom he looked like the most to know by whom he was influenced the most and thus who was his "creator"
** When a nation-tan dies, he/she just gets slowly absorbed back by the land, which would explain the slow fading of the old cultures instead of a sudden death
** The nation-tans cannot be killed by physical means (ever tried to kill earth with a sword?) as there would no wars if they could and they will not age at all or at least not at the same pace as humans as they are rather a combination of land and an idea

[[WMG:Nations can only die if...]] 1) their capital is destroyed, or 2), they collapse
[[WMG: Nation-tans exist.]]
They are just like ordinary citizens; even throughout their immortality and their participation in historical events, nobody singles them out. The only people who know them are other Nation-tans and the leaders of the nations. It's a well-kept secret.
* It also seems that they have varying jobs for different times. Such as Russia having to dig a canal, or America saying something about upgrading his factory parts.
* Other Nation-tans, the leaders of the nations (or rather the government officials of the nations) and ''[[WordOfGod Himaruya]]''.
* If that's the case, then England must be writing songs for [[DragonForce a certain brittish Power Metal Band]]
* And they're all in hiding when not working. Why? [[spoiler: Because all of the {{Fangirl}}s would attack them if they weren't]].

[[WMG: The nation-tans are gods/demi-gods.]]
They're immortal (or something like it), they're present at ANY historical event that requires their participation, no matter how difficult it would be to transport themselves there, and some of their miscellaneous traits can be neatly accounted for (Russia's ability to be nigh-perpetually hammered and still have a functioning liver, for example). Taking a page from ''Literature/AmericanGods'' - pun not intended - they can only die once their nation has stopped exerting major influence over the rest of the world. This explains why Grandpa Rome could age and die after the empire collapsed. The same thing could (conceivably, mind you) happen to Prussia, and probably happened to [[MissingMom Mother Egypt and Mother Greece as well]]. (General Winter, who may be the embodiment of all the ancient Eurasian/Slavic nomads, still exists because of Siberia and its people.)
* I figure something similar, since they seem to just appear once certain conditions are met as in the strip where Finland and Sweden find America (the person). They seem to be intrinsically linked to the condition of their nation and people, getting sick when the economy goes bad, acquiring psychiatric problems when their people suffer (like Russia cracking on Bloody Sunday and going completely insane during the Bolshevik Revolution) and suffer injuries proportional to the scale of battles (China's scar from the Sino-Japanese war). World leaders could conceivably treat them as a 'national barometer', watching their health and interactions for clues on what to do. So it would still fall on the presidents and prime ministers and monarchs to interpret the daily goings on of nigh-immortal spirit people. Stalin was just really, really sadistic. Poor Ivan.
* [[Literature/PercyJacksonAndTheOlympians And the next child of the Big Three to reach sixteen will be...Latvia! Or perhaps he's too old, but I'd hate to see Olympus' fate in the hands of Sealand...]]
** xD Latvia's fifteen. We're safe. Well, safeish. Is omniphobic Latvia really better than genki kid Sealand?
*** There's always [[BigBrotherInstinct devoted to Switzerland]] Liechtenstein...
** Alternatively, they're [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_angelic_hierarchy#Principalities_or_Rulers Principalities]].
** Or they're [[AnthropomorphicPersonification Anthropomorphic Personifications]] powered by [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve the power of belief]]. That's why they use so many national stereotypes--who they are is determined by what we humans ''believe'' they're like. When no one's around to believe in them, they die, consigned only to the realm of history.

[[WMG: The series takes place in two different worlds/dimensions/what have you.]]
The characters are shown interacting with citizens and the bosses of their nation, but also in some other random dimension where they don't have to walk hundreds of thousands of miles to, say, interrupt England's embroidery fun. The fact that their houses represent their nation's land, but each nation is also shown in actual places, taking part in historical events, also supports this. In essence, their collective houses are akin to the Mount Olympus of Greek mythology, and our world either works in tandem with this other dimension or is directly affected by the activity there (or vice-versa). This provides a reasonably sane reason for the character's both representing their entire country and acting as a normal human would during an event ([[http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/531.html Cleaning Out The Storage]], for example).

[[WMG: Axis Powers Hetalia isn't about the personifications of some countries, but how these countries ''really'' are.]]
They love to joke about their populations as part of their own personality traits, and Japan is one hell of a {{Yandere}}, for causing earthquakes and stuff. The characters that appear are few and more important, since it's a retelling of older times, but it's suggested that everybody else will appear, sooner or later. Oh, and USA wants to screw badly with Iraq, but he's against gay sex. Afghanistan is a girl (Afghanis-tan), and she is still crying for what USA did to her. France is still one hell of a nymphomaniac, and Argentina is so uppity that the only explanation is that he's a {{Tsundere}} with an EmbarrassingFirstName.
* But, then how does Afghanis-tan feel about America's kindhearted-yet-physically identical brother who's helping her rebuild?
** She doesn't notice him, like everyone else.

[[WMG: The Nation-tans all have [[HitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy Babel Fish]] stuffed in their ears.]]
* They seem to be capable of understanding and speaking all languages, and who's to say that Tony doesn't have an unlimited supply...
** So long as Japan doesn't try to salt and eat them all.

[[WMG: One or more characters is a Time Lord.]]
More on the WMG/TimeLord WMG page.

[[WMG: The reason you hardly ever see the Tans for provinces, states, etc. is because...]]
They do exist, but they usually travel around with the personification of their country ala PartyInMyPocket. It's very rare that they separate to do anything.

[[WMG: The World of Hetalia Is About the Same Size as the Planet Pluto.]]
* Same as our world- just smaller. I thought of this because....well, the characters or countries personified, they '''are''' the world: literally. I figured the very "Earth" they stand on should be different in scale.
** The Tans ''are'' their populations, their homes are the land masses. But, by the nature of symbolism, what is symbolizing doesn't have to be the same size as what it symbolizes.

[[WMG: Every Hetalia Nation-Tan Can Speak Fluent Latin. Everyone.]]
* Fans have speculated that the characters speak a universal language that was translated into Japanese: "Hidekazian", or just understandable gibberish. (Or possibly the [[HitchhikersGuideToTheGalaxy Babel Fish theory]], see above). I has concluded: Latin. It is the language used with scientific terminology, all around the world. I think it may even justify with Korea, Japan, China, all the rest of the Asean Sensasean, even though their languages don't root from any European- Germanic or Latin- languages. Or maybe...just maybe...[[WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaChick they listened to their hearts]][[WebOriginal/TheNostalgiaChick ...and understood.]]

[[WMG: Marukaite Chikyuu is some sort of magical song that Nation-tans suddenly sing out of nowhere when they turn into a more developed country.]]
In episode 48 the anime, when Austria and Hungary hear Chibitalia (well... practically full grown Italy by then) singing this song, they become concerned about it for no apparent reason and go over to check on him, only to find that he has grown up. His voice even changes. Maybe when moving on to the next stage of... nationhood?... randomly singing this song is one of the symptoms. Singing "Marukaite Chikyuu" intentionally without anything really happening seems like it's exclusive to the ending credits only, and so far that one incident seems to be the only time any of the Nation-tans sing it in the actual storyline. (correct me if I'm wrong though...)
* How would you explain Prussia's version, then? It seems he waited until modern day, namely after he heard Germany's version, before trying his hand at it. By that point, he'd been around near 800 years, had grown to maturity, and had become a few different nations. Considering it's an anime that stands behind the practice of OnlySixFaces, doesn't it stand to reason there would only be one song as well?
** You have a point with Prussia. And you're talking about the different versions of "Marukaite Chikyuu", right? I like to think of it as the fact that when a song is translated into another language the words change around to fit the language better. They may sound like they're all speaking Japanese ''to the viewer'' but they're probably like pokemon: they speak differently but still understand each other.
*** Perhaps I'm tired, I'm not understanding. What exactly does TranslationConvention have to do with the theory presented? I was saying that, if it's sung by all of them when they 'become a nation', why would Prussia seem intrigued by it in modern day (after he'd become many different nations), and only try it after the character who refers to him as an elder brother did it as an adult (long after Germany, as well, had become a nation)? If we take Prussia's official MKC as canon, there would need to be some serious explanation for this theory to work.
** Well, Prussia has been alot of things. Right now, he's east Germany. He has one because everyone else did, and he wanted one. Notice how he doesn't quite know some of the words and how it doesn't follow the patteren the others do? It's because he's not ready to sing it yet. Like you said, he's been a few different nations. And he'll be a few more. In the beginning of his song, he's listening to everyone else's. It seems to me he was thinking "Where the hell am I? I'm more awesome than they are! Where's my song?" and decided to make one. Maybe he has a bunch that have been lost because things changed since then or he learns more and more of the words as it gets closer to modern times.
* I disagree. I think that ''Marukaite Chikyuu'' is just a nation-tan's way of saying "This is who I am, and this is what I stand for." I think it's important that Veneziano sang it when his voice was changing, because that's when he was mature enough to know himself well enough to sing his own version of ''Marukaite Chikyuu.''

[[WMG: Hetalia is a ModelUnitedNations conference that went ''severely'' OffTheRails.]]
The delegates got bored, and things got silly.
* Explain Sealand, then.
** That little brother who sneaks in and tries to join in with his older brother while not-so-subtly demanding they leave already?
* One of the Italies was probably some minor nation like San Marino, before deciding that representing San Marino was totally uncool and declared himself half of Italy. While it'd make more sense for Feliciano to do it, since San Marino is surrounded by North Italy, it'd probably be more in character for Lovino to make the claim.
* Likewise, Gilbert did one of two things: either the same as above, represented some minor nation that is uncool and declared himself Prussia, or (and this is considering the Prussia=EastGermany theory is correct) the Model UN takes place pre-unification, Gilbert represents the GDR (while Ludwig represents the FRG), and he just [[YouFailHistoryForever fails history forever]].
* And yes, it is quite possible that they both just represent the country they're from, since usually there's more than one representative at the UN (and the Model), but hell, if we've got to think of an explanation for certain countries, why not make it fun?

[[WMG: There are -tans for every major political unit]]
We see this in the existence of Sealand-tan, among others. The nation-tans are the leaders of clans of state/province/prefecture -tans. Thus if we were able to take a more detailed look at say America-tan's family, we would find California-tan, New York-tan, Texas-tan, Virginia-tan, Florida-tan, Utah-tan, etc. A lot of the nation-tan's meetings are really discussions on how what their clan's member-tans want to do (like Ontario-tan wants to send oil to Texas-tan and Louisiana-tan for refining), but since the nation-tans are so damn bizarre HilarityEnsues.
* This would make sense, since some [[{{Fanon}} fans]] like to postulate that "nations" are the embodiment of the people's idea of a nation rather than the embodiment of arbitrary lines in the sand. Hence, there could be a Quebec-tan living in Canada's basement, or certain countries without a national identity (such as certain third-world countries) may be portrayed differently than other nations. Of course, America's glasses representing Texas may throw this right out the window...
** Quebec has already been personified, and his very birth and development seems to be something that bothers Canada enough to keep him awake at night.
*** Actually no, that was just a nightmare Canada had.
** Fun Historical Fact: After America peacefully annexed the Republic of Texas, it proceeded to get into a war with Mexico over the rightful ownership of Texas. (Specifically the land between the Rio Grande and the Natchez Rivers.) As a part of peace treaty after the war, America annexed much of the modern day American West. Manifest destiny, the belief that it was America's destiny to manifest itself across the width of North America, or from Sea to Shining Sea, was fulfilled. With that goal out of the way, America started looking to the world at large rather then just what was there on it's doorstep. Therefore, America's geopolitical vision was corrected from shortsighted to average, and without Texas this would not have happened (at least, not in this way or as quickly). That's how I interpret the whole "The Glasses Represent Texas", at any rate.
*** I is in love with the above Troper's mind. Now, I'd love to hear your interpretation of Canada's glasses, since I still haven't figured out their purpose, yet.
**** Canada has the opposite problem. Since Canada retained it's identity as a subject of the British Empire, he was more focused on helping his brothers then himself. After being made an independent country in the Commonwealth as a reward for helping England in WWII (who declared Canada "a fully grown nation" after seeing him, Australia and New Zealand fight like men possessed against the Axis), Canada got glasses as a part of becoming a sovereign nation so that he would start looking after his own affairs. Of course, now instead of being just a part of the Empire, he's overshadowed by America and can quite clearly see that, leading to his particular neurosis. (I wrote the above entry on Texas and this is my best shot at explaining Canada. My regiment (8th CA, TXSG) traces it's lineage back to the battle of San Jacinto, and my company's CO is a history teacher in his civilian life, so military history is a big thing for us. Really opens your eyes after you get over all the HollywoodHistory that ends up being fed to you...)
***** That. Is. Awesome. I was going to just say that Canada's glasses just represented the provinces of Manitoba and Saskatchewan (given to him by Ukraine), but I like your theory ''way'' more.
***** Huh. So America is near-sighted and Canada is far-sighted. Head canon acquired.
*** As Texas once existed as its own independent nation and thus would have a Nation-tan, Texas probably GAVE America those glasses.
**** Maybe he lives in the glasses (absorbed into America), and could theoretically transform back and forth? Perhaps that's how all the territories exist with Nation-tans?
**** "Alright Florida, I have a date tonight."
** Chibi Prussia was supposedly the embodiment of the Teutonic Knights.

[[WMG: A Nation is not only powered by the beliefs of his own culture]]
Rather, if we follow the "each nation is a representation of his people's beliefs" theory, then it's not '''only''' a people's own beliefs that shape the Nation. The concept of the nation is also influenced in part by how others view the country: ''that's'' why the nations are represented by stereotypes! It's because of how others view them that they take on their shape as-seen by other nations! It's also how the relationships between the nations are personified; they're influenced by how the other nation's people see them just as much as they are influenced by their own nation. That's why a country like Canada, with so many citizens who are patriotic and angry over their nation's representation, is still seen as "invisible" to others - it's how the rest of the world sees Canada! Just like how America is represented as having elements of Type-2 EagleLand; whilst many Americans probably wouldn't see themselves that way, others would.\\
In short, each Nation is represented by the beliefs of the world society at the time. Influenced largely by their own nations' beliefs, culture, and viewpoints... but also influenced externally by the stereotypes believed and imprinted on the nation by other cultures and their people. England may not ''see'' himself as anything other than prude, but France is more than willing to point out what other people think of England's sexual achievements. It gives the lyrics to Germany's ImageSong "Einsamkeit (Loneliness)" a tragic angle when you realize how he looks at other nation's stereotypes of him and he comments how the reasons behind his cultural quirks are different from what others guess (''"I may appear stern, but only because I'm straining to laugh"'')... The concept of a "nation" isn't just based on how the people see themselves - it never has been. It has always been influenced, at least in part, by how that nation presents itself to the world, and how they respond to it, whether even the nation is recognized. Humans are affected by how other view us, we in our own ways are influenced by these expectations, so why should nations be any different?
* The [[SouthPark Imaginationland]] entry on the FridgeBrilliance: WesternAnimation page was the influence for this WMG, especially in how they describe the "fictional" Jesus as not being the same as the real portrayal of the person he was IRL - other culture's views of him would be different and seen as fictional compared to Western Christians. Why can't it be the same for Nations?

[[WMG: The Hetaliaverse was a 'dry run' for our world]]
So maybe an unfathomably long time ago, God thought it would be cool to make a world in ways x, y, and z. However, He wasn't sure if He'd end up with a fantastic work of art or a big fat mess, so He decided to crudely model the future history in advance, using a much, much smaller scale than the final product. Hence, the nation-tans came to be and unwittingly forecast an exponentially bigger future. One might even theorize that after the 'tan's deaths or disappearances, they were reincarnated as their real life counterparts.

[[WMG: Who is controlling whom?]]
We've seen both sides of the coin. We've seen nations bowing to the will of their bosses, and we've also seen them acting independently of their bosses (such as the Italian Wars, the War of Austrian Succession, etc...) So who's really pulling the strings? Discuss.
* I always thought of it as the nation-tans being personifications of the countries, so while the leaders technically outrank them anywhere but a democratic republic, the nation-tans are still more powerful. For example, Germany was just going along with "[his] boss" in WWII, with some reservations but not enough to actually outright refuse, in the same way enough of the population of the country went along with things that we still refer to Germany's actions in the war as "Germany's actions in the war". However, one of the Eastern Europe-tans (Russia? I was only able to read part of that arc, and don't remember much of it) joined in on a historically successful revolution against the leader, because in hindsight the leader would be and had been deposed. Think of it as a manager-client relationship. The manager runs everything, but the client can fire (or if firing [[DrunkWithPower doesn't work]], [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeCivilized punch out]]) the manager, since the manager's only power is being able to shill the client's talents, and it's easier for the "client" to get a new leader than for the "manager" to take over a new country.
** That makes a lot of sense and seems to fit with canon. Head canon acquired.
** It fits with a theory that I had: basically, since the nations represent the people, the degree of control a boss has over a nation is proportional to the control he/she has over the population. Thus, a democratic country has the Boss serving as a manager who the nation advises as needed, whilst a despotic state has the leader control everyone, nation and people alike. This extends to intelligence work: anything that's not officially acknowledged by the government, or is hidden from the people, is unknown to the nation. Thus, from America's perspective, Area 51 rally doesn't exist, since his boss won't tell him, and so he's confused by that dichotomy, since his people are pretty aware of it anyway, sort of like when his boss told him that "it was a weather balloon, not a UFO."

[[WMG: This series was not originally supposed to be so [[HoYay homoerotic.]]]]
America was originally supposed to be female, per the real life use of feminine pronouns in reference to America. However, ExecutiveMeddling put the kibosh on that plan because they didn't want Japan to get beaten by a girl. As this rendered relationships with America incredibly HoYay laced, they decided to go the whole nine yards with additional characters and make the whole series like that.
* America was male and HoYay-rific long before executives thought that they might like to meddle in the series.
* It's true that there were quite a few countries that were originally going to be female but were changed to male in production. Whether it's ExecutiveMeddling or not, I don't know. However, I highly doubt any of the Allies and Axis were going to female at first, at all. Some people in RealLife think of their country as a beautiful woman, like a ship, but I don't think it has an influence on Himaruya's decision. If it did, Russia would be a MILF.
* You do realize that this is a webcomic and as such it had no ExecutiveMeddling until the anime came around, right?

[[WMG: All nation-tan's are pansexual]]
Even Sweden, especially since it's stated that [[SingleTargetSexuality he only likes Finland]]. They're personifications of countries. They must be ready to make treaties, get married, and be nice with other countries, no matter their gender.
* But an alliance doesn't have to be romantic/sexual in nature, unless it's [[RuleOfFunny played for laughs]]. I mean, when Japan, Germany, and Italy signed the Tripartite Pact under the kotatsu, they weren't exactly having a threesome...[[FridgeHorror unless...]]

[[WMG: The Nation-tans don't really have human names ]]
They just recently chose human names to use as a cover-up. Sure in the past we've seen humans refer to the nation-tans by their nation name, but then the nations were relatively safe from humans. There weren't things such as bombs around that could blast a country apart, so in those times it didn't matter if anyone knew that was a nation walking around or not. However, ever since the WWs, and the invention of nuclear weapons, nations now have to be very wary. Especially with terrorism. Imagine how much trouble would occur if terrorists realised that they could attack one nation-tan and destroy that nation as a result? At least if a nation-tan is alive there's always a chance for the country and culture to survive no matter what damage occurs to the landmass. Think about it, we haven't seen any human call a nation-tan by their nation name in the modern strips. The only one was the old book store owner that Germany sees, but considering his age the book store owner could very well be a veteran, thus knew Germany back when they were fighting in war together. On the other hand, we've seen America being called "Alfred" in a commerical; if his people were still calling him America then why did he need to use an alias? Surely they would know who their nation was if he appeared on TV, so why would he even need to use the fake name? It's because his people don't know that he's the embodiment of their nation, much like other people don't know who their own nation-tans are. Only the government and military personal know who the nation-tans are, because the government needs to keep an eye on the nation-tans to be able to know if there's any problems in their lands, and the military have to protect the nation-tan so the must know who to protect. Everyone outside of that just sees them as regular people though, thus they need fake human names to blend in.
* This has sort of been this troper's head-canon for a while, although said head canon has the human names being used for convenience as well as protection (after all, there's going to be times when they have to deal with humans and they can't be bothered explaining the whole nation thing). Also, points to France for hiding in plain sight.
** This troper loves France for hiding in plain sight but hates his human name...why be "Francis" if he could've been "François"?
*** Maybe he is François, but simply anglicized his name for some people. We all know America would be too stupid to pronounce "François" properly.

[[WMG: The nation-tans cannot be killed.]]
At least, not directly. The only way one could be killed would be by completely destroying their country. They do seem to get on relatively well, considering that most of the major characters have, at various times, been at war with the others. If they'd actually been trying to kill eachother, you'd think there'd be a lot more tension than there is. Italy and France are still having phone conversations during WW2! It would also explain why they're all still alive when they seem to fight on the frontlines. When they shoot at eachother, they're just trying to injure the other, but they know they can't actually kill them.\\
Admittedly, it's stated in a character profile that Germania 'delivered the fatal blow' to Roman Empire, but that could be interpreted as delivering the blow to the Roman Empire itself, not the actual person (I'm not strong on this area of History, so if that can be verified or shown wrong...). Alternatively, since Rome was shown to have aged after taking Italy and running off, the blow may have come after he started to age - something which rather suggests that he'd lost his position as a nation-tan by this point.\\
I also know England 'died' once, but since America was able to bring him back just by insulting him, he can't have really been that dead.\\
Really, I can't see that the nation-tans are able to be killed physically, considering how many battlefields they must have been on over the centuries. China was stabbed in the back, and he survived. Seriously, [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/knt.html look at that scar]]. There is no way he should have survived that.
* Or alternatively, they can get "killed" only to come back to consciousness after a short while. They could only really die if (in addition to above), their people are sufficiently broken or some cataclysmic event simply wipes out the country.
** [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4941946/1/The_Trip This]] [[KatekyoHitmanReborn KHR]] crossover presented a great theory as to why the Nations can't die: According to the author, a nation only well and truly 'dies' if there is not a single living person that recognizes him/herself as a citizen of that country. That also reasons out as to why 'dead' nations (Read: Prussia) are still around and kicking: A nation 'dies' when their identity has been erased from their citizens' minds. As for 'dead nations' like the Ancients Egypt and Greece: as their empires fell, their people identified more and more to their modern equivalents, and thus their life and position in the Hetalia world was shifted to their sons. As for Grandpa Rome, since a great majority of his landmarks and cultures are still widely invoked by the Italy Brothers, he exists, but only just, as does Prussia. No one truly identifies with Germania anymore, that's why you only see him with Grandpa Rome. In a nutshell, the citizens act like the Nation-tans' [[HarryPotter Horcruxes]], once they're all dead, then the nation-tans can finally die.
** The only problem with this theory is that Rome said he got permission from God to come down to see Italy (or he snuck away from God, I can't remember; anyway, God was mentioned in such a context). So he was pretty much dead and in Heaven, or wherever country spirits go when they die.
*** He got "permission". The last pannel was God tied up.
* Another similar theory states that humans can't kill Nations, but other Nations can. It still takes a hell of a lot to kill a whole Nation even as a Nation.

[[WMG: The early history of Great Britain...]]
...went as follows:\\
In Celtic times there was one nation-tan for the entire island. He was then forced up north by Rome, and became Scotland. Around this time a second nation-tan appeared, who represented Roman Britain. After Rome left and the Saxons invaded, he retreated into a relatively small part of the island and became Wales. And around this time England appeared. The Viking invasions then caused England to become the subject of a joint custody agreement.\\
As for the Norman invasion... Normandy could have had a personification. He took custody of England and for a while essentially took on the role of the England nation-tan (because actual England was still a child). He probably passed away quite peacefully sometime later, and England (by this point an adult or at least a teenager) quietly took his rightful role back.
* It depends as to whether or not Normandy got a personification. Considering how different the Franco-Viking Normans were from mainstream French culture during the early years, I'd say there probably was. However, he likely acted as a big brother figure to England, much like England would later do for America, rather than taking over directly. As for Scotland, I doubt he had the whole island - the southern Celts were Britons (sometimes called P-Celts) while the Gaels (Q-Celts) were in Scotland and Ireland. There was, perhaps, a Proto-Celtic personification (similar to Germania?) who fathered all the Celtic nations, with a Gaelic child or children who became Ireland and Scotland ([[YourMileageMayVary North Ireland and Man are up in the air]]), and a Brythonic child who became Southern Britain (modern England and Wales), later Roman ''Britannia''. Then, the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes (who were all very similar) came along, bringing with them either child England (Angleland), or a collection of tribal-tans that became the Heptarchy, with either England emerging from them, or either Mercia and/or Wessex rising to the position.
** This troper's head canon is that kiddie England appeared in the 7th century when Edwin of Northumbria was declared overking of most of what is now England and that it was in fact Deira, aka south Northumbria (who in my head is something like two parts Denmark to one part Prussia in the personality department) who found him. This was followed by centuries of ickle Iggy getting passed around from one kingdom to another as power shifted, finally ending up in Wessex's care until the Norman conquest.
** Northern Ireland probably didn't show up until a lot later. According to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Isle_of_Man#British_and_Irish_Celtic_dominance the other wiki]] the first Celts on the Isle of Man were probably Brythonic, but then it seems to have been sort of made more Gaelic by "the Irish invasion". Manx is closer to the Gaelic languages than it is to Welsh... so I guess that one depends on when you think the nation-tan would have appeared (if you think the Isle of Man has a nation-tan).
** In that case, it sounds like Man was a portion of England or Wales that was taken by Scotland and Ireland at some point (just like Corsica / Italy's Nipple), and was simply never reintegrated back into anyone. Officially, it's got its own parliament as is not considered a part of any constituent UK country - or a part of the UK proper, it's something like a Crown Dependency. I now have an image of Scotland, North Ireland, and England occasionally arguing over a nipple or something that's been placed on a fireplace [[IncrediblyLamePun man]]tel in their house (It's mine! No wai!). As for North Ireland, it depends on when he appeared. Is he the incarnation of pre-Irish-unification Ulster? Or did he appear in the '20s?
*** Er... I think I prefer the thought of Man being a person. I know England and Scotland fought over the island a lot, so maybe he'd be a little brother caught in a tug-of-war? (Historically, I'm not sure if he'd be older than England... but I like him as a little brother.) My headcannon on Northern Ireland is that they appeared some time before Ireland declared independance (the political views of the two parts were divided already) and is now an emotionally messed up teenager.
**** He could also easily be a person. But, in that case, he'd have to be an incredibly small one. Maybe Sealand- or Chibitalia-sized, since the island has less people than most modern cities. As for North Ireland, Himaruya apparently [[WordOfGod said that]] England was the youngest of his brothers. However, we can't rule out that North Ireland has had more than one incarnation, and thus his current form could appear younger.
***** Unless the Irelands ''aren't'' England's siblings (we don't know exactly how family relationships work in Hetalia) and the third brother ''was'' Man. And I thought their heights were based on the average heights of people living there, not the size of the country (or Crown Dependancy, as the case may be)?
****** It seems that [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Northern_Ireland.2C_Scotland.2C_and_Wales North]] Ireland, at the very least, is England's brother. There's no confirmation for [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Ireland the South]] of the Island, however. So maybe... although most {{Fanon}} ''does'' make them siblings. If not siblings, then, at the very least, related indirectly through North Ireland, possibly as some sort of custody battle. As for heights, it's mostly speculation. Sizes of Nation-tans seems to be a strange mixture of population heights (as you said), the size of their land-masses/population density, and they're relative ages. For example, Chibitalia was so small because he was a brand new "nation", that had not yet matured or gained independence, just like America and Holy Roman Empire. Either that, or, the colonial Americans and medieval Italians and Germans were '''seriously''' short people. XD

[[WMG: Not everything gets a Tan]]
When Finland first told France and England about a child sighted near his settlement, he didn't consider this could be a Tan. Despite all being there, having formed colonies, all three seem ecstatic that a new personification had possibly been born. Especially considering how much France and England colonized, this is an unusual reaction to something that in other theories would have been common.\\
The people of New Sweden (the probable establishment that birthed America) considered themselves members of their home countries, and not citizens of a new nation. It could be that a Tan's creation is linked to future development and identity, rather than just a identity claimed by its founding people.
* This does make a lot of sense. It could be that America appeared precisely ''because'' all these nations were settling colonies in the same area. If it had just been one or two countries, it would have been a continuation of that country in a new land. However, the many different founding nations resulted in the American melting pot, thus creating a new nation that is descended from - but inherently distinct from - the European countries.

[[WMG: If Hetalia is a parallel to ScandinaviaAndTheWorld, then Nyotalia/Hetalia Genderbends are all canon.]]
The Nyotalias represent the Sisters. They just haven't appeared because marketing the series as a mostly [[HoYay borderline-boy's love series has been working too well]].

[[WMG: The Hartford Convention, Hetalia Style]]
The [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartford_Convention Hartford Convention]], in which the New England states met to debate making a seperate peace with Great Britain and thereby declaring their independence, will take the form of a previously unseen New England character threatening America with cutting off his Nantucket ahoge. Before New England can act though, America and Great Britain make peace, much to the chagrin of New England.
* He will undoubtedly show up again sometime in the late 1860s, trying to convince Acadia / The Maritimes to join him instead of attempting that silly [[CanadaEh "Confederation"]] thing that Mattie had been going on about. Again, it never really gets off the ground for him... I sense a JokeCharacter ButtMonkey in this one!

[[WMG: The Nation-tans have been mistaken for gods and/or heroic figures later personified as gods in the past.]]
After all, if you were living in the ancient world and there was an immortal being running around on your land and accompanying your tribe or small principality into battle, you would likely think of it as a god, too. Especially since the Nation-tans represent their culture as a whole ''oh so'' well. Since religious and political leaders were often one and the same in those eras (and even in some recent ones), this served to reinforce the view among the people. Some of them could be rather obvious: The Olympian Pantheon were likely the Nation-tans of the many different city-states of Ancient Greece. The City of Athens, for example, was likely personified as Athena, who put a lot of emphasis on her people being wise and philosophical. It's possible that Momma Greece started out life as one of these (perhaps Athens, considering its the capitol, or Ancient Macedonia, being the Prussia of that relationship) before unifying à la Germany. Alternatively, she was their daughter, just as modern Greece is her son. Bonus points if the city-states lied in or met to do business in a house or similar structure on Mount Olympus.

Ancient Rome's story follows the idea of a historic character later deified (in this case, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quirinus Quirinus]]). Quirinus, of course, is the divine persona of the Roman people. [[WhamLine His original identity was Romulus]]. It really isn't too hard to figure out the story from that: Romulus and Remus were twin "city-state tans" who were born on or near the seven hills. As time passed and the small would-be nations grew, there came a reckoning, and Remus came out the loser. Rome, left as the sole -tan, was devastated by his actions and felt incredibly lonely. So, he agreed with his early bosses (the early Senate, perhaps?) when they said Rome needs women, and so he went off to abduct Sabine-tan, the personification of the Sabine people. Married to her, and with the abduction of the Sabine women taking place, they eventually became one people and Rome was left lonely again. He changed his human-name "identity" to Quirinus after "Romulus" mysteriously disappeared (he chose to go into hiding full-time as a nation-tan, rather than continue to be King) and Quirinus/Romulus was deified by his people. He, of course, chose to go out conquering to fill the void left behind by Remus and Sabine, which would fit perfectly with the theory some fans have that Rome indirectly killed Ancient Greece and Egypt after falling in love with them. He never got over killing his brother, and when he became old and knew that his time was near, willingly let Germania - the nation he thought of as his best friend - put him out of his misery. It may also explain why he favoured North Italy so much. After all, if Rome vaguely resembles South Italy, then perhaps North Italy took after Remus?

Of course, the Germanic gods were likely the personifications of the various Germanic and Norse tribes that existed in pre-Christian Europe (there were a LOT). As time passed and the tribes conquered, and in turn were conquered, the Germanic pantheon grew. Perhaps Odin/Woden and Thor were nation-tans at one time? A similar theory could be used for the Celtic gods. Maybe they were all ancestors of the modern British Isles siblings? Native American and other cultures may have held to the idea that the spirits of their tribes were in fact the spirits of nature and the land?

Eventually, of course, the nations decided to go into hiding, perhaps as a sort of [[HarryPotter Statute of Secrecy]] that was agreed upon by the nations. Maybe they didn't like playing god anymore, or they were forced into hiding after the rise of Monotheism in many places (Christianity in the West, Islam in Africa and the Middle East). India with its various states likely explains the Hindu pantheon, and China of course has his dragon and likely chose to hide anyway, just because he was old and didn't feel like bothering with all the power struggles any more. By the modern day, gods and goddesses disappeared into myth and nations chose to keep the concept of themselves alive by telling some artists and writers about the concept of a national personication, leading to the phenomena of [[TheFrenchRevolution Marianne]], [[TheBritishEmpire Britannia]], [[UsefulNotes/TheUnitedStates Columbia]], [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Germania, Italia, and Mother Russia]].
** It's also likely that after the arrival of Christianity and Islam, their respective clerics and preachers may have initially seen the Nations ''as'' pagan gods and would have likely tried to hunt them down. As they learned more about them, however, things got more complicated especially once the Vatican's personification shows up before the Papacy. It's possible that eventually, they eventually tried to either handwave them off as "forgotten saints" or simply hold up the masquerade.
** According to TheOtherWiki, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaldean_mythology Near Eastern mythology]] amongst more complex city-states held that the Gods were rulers of a cosmic order that represented their cities on a higher plane, and that Wars between the cities were analogous to wars/fights between the Gods that represented them. So... Babylon invaded Sumer's vital regions?

[[WMG: Alternatively, to the above theories, America and other nations simply adopt new customs instead of dying.]]
It's been established that, if anything, America looks like a cross between nations, such as Finland and/or Netherlands. More likely than not, America represented local tribes at first, before effectively converting to the American colonists. We already know from the Chibitalia stories that France and other European countries existed alongside Rome (normally, that would be an anachronism), and that the British Isles nations are England's brothers (and possibly sister). For that to work, the nation-tans would have had to exist in a previous incarnation (such as Gallia, Britannia, etc.) before becoming the modern nations they are now. That could possibly be because, when a new culture establishes itself in a country, the nation-tan simply adopts the new customs and language instead of outright dying. Therefore, the European countries likely became Frenchified/Anglophied/Germanophied/etc. It could be that a nation, like Rome, only outright dies when his entire government, society, structure, language, and everything else is effectively dead. Rome's "duties" were taken over by his grandsons, so, they took whatever survived Rome's fall and he subsequently died.

In the same way, it could very well be that America at first represented the tribes, and found himself transformed to represent the colonists, the new dominant force in that region. On top of that, regions of both Canada and the United States have many native people who have effectively assimilated into the majority culture, further lending credence to this theory. A previous nation-tan didn't just die and him replace it because the process of white people taking over the "New World" was somewhat gradual (the United States only declared the end of the "Frontier" in the last century, and Canada still has one with a large Native majority in those regions).

[[WMG: Provinces, states, whatever. They all have Tans.]]
[[http://www.horror-vacui.net/hetarchive/scanlation/shorts/hetastreeeem/isseisousin.jpg This]], from the Christmas event, shows that China's provinces are alive and vocal. If they're around for him, the cast of potential characters is far more massive than originally assumed.
* Considering the above link and the fact that micronation-tans have been appearing, this is almost pretty much canon. It's also possible, following the theory that they represent cultures, that the smaller tans basically represent different cultural regions within a larger nation, since it's hard to imagine a single large country representing an entire union of diverse peoples. Thus, there could be tans for the Caucasus in Russia, the American South, French Canada and/or Western Canada, the many tribes still extant in Africa, and generally just minority populations that exist in larger countries.
** [[http://i.imgur.com/9iKoB.jpg Japanese prefectures have also being release.]]

[[WMG: The Turnout of [[EurovisionSongContest Eurovision]] 2010 and the entrants for 2011...]]
...is because of the Hetalia-verse. Austria, although he loves music, hasn't competed since 2007. But Italy hasn't competed since 1997. Germany wins in 2010. In short, Italy is way happy that Germany won, and annoys the heck out of Austria to urge him to join again so they can both join Germany for 2011.

[[WMG: The nation-tans age physically partially based on how their country grows]]
As said above, the nation-tans age psychically partially based on how their country grows economically, politically, land and population wise. How else would America catch up so quickly with England (according to the wikia, they are physically a year or apart)? Like humans, though, they can't age backwards. How old their land is, how long civilization has lived there and so on also contribute to their age.
* Isn't this one already canon? That development and health is linked directly to progress (or lack thereof) of their citizens... Or was that just fanon?
** It was touched [[http://aph.starry-sky.com/rkgk7.html in this strip]]. North American colonies developed themselves very quickly, much to England's dismay.
*** Also, while Latvia is way older than America, he still look like a teenager because [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic he hasn't being able to develop properly due to Russia's intervention...]]

[[WMG: The gender-bends exist in canon.]]
For every nation there is a male and a female personification, and, in theory, a ruler gets to choose which of them will represent them at world meetings and such. However, the fact that bosses can choose was forgotten a long time ago, and they very rarely change things now. This is why there are more boys than girls; naturally, leaders of the past would be more likely to choose the males to represent them. Some, for whatever reasons, did choose the girl, but not very many. In Hungary's case, they probably thought they had two boys, and picked the more boyish of the two.
* Partially confirmed: They exist in canon ''but'' in another dimension (unless Estonia was just dreaming the whole time).

[[WMG:Family kinships are different amongst the nations compared to the ones humans have.]]
No one is really blood related since it is impossible for different nations to be fully blood related. Even with Romano and Italy they were confirmed to have different lineages with Romano having Arabic blood while Italy's is Germanic, at most I would say they are more like half siblings. Other siblings like Belgium and Netherlands, Russia, Ukraine and Belarus etc are related due to a common root in their heritage rather than a genetic bond. It could also explain why Russia and Belarus have different last names.
** I could believe this for the most part, but there are a couple of exceptions. England and Sealand are one, because the 'citizens' of Sealand are just British citizens. Possibly, I'd say Norway and Iceland too, since Iceland was uninhabited until the Norwegians settled there. Especially since there's a strip explicitly about them being siblings.

[[WMG:I hope to be {{Jossed}}. The prefectures that have been featured on Himaruya's blog are going to be characters for a new series he's working on and thus he will be ending APH pretty soon.]]
* Or they're just extended parts of the Hetalia universe... or they're for a different series that will be worked on alongside Hetalia because he can start a new series without ending this one. I... can't see where this idea would have come from. And I hope it to be false.
** I'm about 80% sure he's not quiting Hetalia for a long, long time. Volume Four just came out, and Volume Five has a vauge release date.

[[WMG: The strip will end covering the end of WorldWarII.]]
The strip is loose in covering whatever time period it feels like, but it began by covering the formation of the Axis and Allied Powers, with a brief introduction to the Holy Roman Empire, and WorldWarI. It's only fitting the finale would cover the victory of the Allies, with Germany, Italy, and Japan standing there, dumbfounded.
* Dumbfounded, not so much, they knew it was coming. By the end, the Axis' citizens were actually relieved that the war was over because it'd been going so horribly. Italy won't be there, they switched sides and were brutalized by the Germans for that. Prussia, based on evidence pointing to him becoming East Germany, is going to be dragged off by Russia. I can see it ending at that point in history, but it's not going to be simple.
** And then it will continue with a spin off series featuring Russia as the main character and it will be set during the Cold War. It will be called...Yandssia (can't think of a clever name but something to do with being yandere). The Soviet Union/Warsaw Pact will be a [[DysfunctionalFamily interesting take ]] of their [[FiveManBand cooperation with each other]] while NATO will be the [[BigBad big scary organization trying to tear Russia's family apart]]. Communism has never looked so cute.
** While the series may reach a "conclusion", it's hard to tell whether or not the series itself would end. Himaruya has a ''lot'' of potential ground to cover, as well as fan dissatisfaction of it just ending while so many stories could be made. After WWII is concluded, Himaruya could just continue to release strips as a sort of "After-Story", or contract out other people to do the same.
*** Alternately Himaruya will continue to do [[CashCowFranchise Hetalia]] until AuthorExistenceFailure kicks in.
* That's a nice idea but Himaruya hasn't added anything substantial to the WWII storyline in what, years? He's been doing other periods.

[[WMG: Hetalia takes place in Ireland.]]
It has to take place somewhere, right? That would explain why we don't have an Ireland nation-tan.
* But we don't have a lot of nation-tans. And why would it being set in a country mean they didn't get a -tan?
** ...I'm still having trouble wrapping my head around how a nation-tan can live in the country they represent.
*** They're there as well as the landmass, not instead of. Where else would they live?
**** Ireland.
**** And why not Mexico?

[[WMG: The Gen-Ben and 2P Nations are different personalities/bodies]]
See [[http://www.geocities.jp/himaruya/4ka00.html here]] for Nyotalia and Nyo-2Ps and [[http://www.geocities.jp/himaruya/4ka0.html here]] for 2Ps (Some fans say 2P are their dark sides, some just say different colors) nation-tans. The Nyo, 2P and Nyo-2P nations are different personalities in each 'original' nation-tan's head. There are four per nation-tan (Original, Nyo, 2P, and Nyo-2P) and each has their own body and personality. They can change the body of the nation-tan to their own whenever they feel like it, but the 'original' can overpower them if s/he really, ''really'' needs to. Whever someone talks about or references a personality, the nation-tan automatically changes to that personality.

[[WMG: The nations' homes are all in a separate dimension/universe/colony/whathaveyou.]]
They may have houses in the human world, but their primary homes are in another universe/colony/whatever that's strictly for nations, and they are in the same positions as the land masses would be. For example, Canada, Mexico, and America would all have homes near one another. The Atlantic Ocean might be a river or a lake separating the Western half of the nation's world from the Eastern, and England has a house on the water. Then you have Germany's house, and then France's, and so on and so forth. They have the ability to go into the human world whenever they please, but they really only stay there when they're on business. As for nations that share homes with someone else (like Germany and Prussia), there is a specific part of the house reserved for them. So, in Germany and Prussia's case, Prussia's wing would probably be in the Eastern part of the house.

[[WMG: In Paint it White, the alien's order of attack depends entirely on a nation's level of neutrality.]]
Mainly based off their stance in World War II, but general levels of neutrality contribute too.\\
Switzerland and Liectenstein were protected permanantly, as is shown in the movie. Iceland also appears to have done OK. And if I recall correctly, when England and France were in the room looking at the globe, and England turned it to look at his land, it showed the United Kingdom had been overtaken, but not Ireland, which frankly seems illogical, considering they're right next to eachother.\\
Which countries were overtaken? The former Axis and Allies, Finland, the only nordic not to take a neutral stance during the war, and Poland, who didn't really get much of a choice, but nonetheless could not be called neutral.\\
Some countries - like Canada - may have avoided being attacked earlier because they were under another country's rule at the time.\\
There's probably serious issues with this theory, but if permanent neutrality causes complete protection, surely it makes sense that a neutrality that hasn't lasted as long and isn't ''as''strong would also have some effect? So the aliens had to attack the countries which tend to take sides first, then they would be powerful enough to attack the more neutral ones (but not Switzerland).
* Oh, right. Just rewatched the movie, and it says they chose Earth because of all the fighting making it an easy target, so in retrospect this may have been kind of obvious.

[[WMG: The beauty of the nations is an adaptive characteristic.]]
It's intended to keep their leaders from hurting them, similar to how cuteness in the offspring of many species keeps their parents from abandoning them. If it's true that a nation cannot disobey a direct order from their boss unless the wider population is in revolt against the government, then this could lead to power abuse even on a very personal level (think of someone like Caligula ordering Rome to disembowel himself over and over again for sadistic amusement). The reason the nations all look like supermodels is because leaders are less willing to brutalize beautiful, cute, charming looking people. In addition, it might inspire regular citizens to fight harder for the country during wars (there are no ugly people on propaganda posters). This might be at work even on a generational level since nations live so long; it would explain why Rome looks so much rougher than his descendants/successors (that or standards of beauty changed).
* Interesting. This troper just put their good looks down to the fact that most people think that their homelands are beautiful, so they are, if that makes sense.

[[WMG: The nations were originally normal humans.]]
I've been toying with this idea for a while, but I never had any canon evidence to support it. However, in the recent micronation event, we met Nikko Nikko, who has apparently "RETURNED to being a normal Japanese citizen". Himaruya also noted at the end that it "might be difficult for the usual nations to REVERT back to normal people". The implications are clear: the nation-tans were once human.\\
What exactly this entails is hard to say. Perhaps it just means that when they first appeared, they aged normally, but quickly slowed in their age process. However, an idea I find more intriguing is that they were born to regular humans, and were just [[TheChosenOne chosen]] to represent their country.\\
There are obviously a few issues here. Firstly, familial relations between countries. Perhaps when they become nations, their appearence changes slightly to resemble their new 'family'. Also, micronations. I can't say exactly where Sealand would have come from; maybe his parents were just some poor, random couple in Britain.\\
Yes, this guess does have some pretty heartbreaking implications. But I think it has a basis.
* This troper has read fanfics based on the idea that it was a sort of reincarnation deal. Someone very important to their nation's people dies and later wakes up de-aged and knowing that they're now the country itself (in the fics in question, England is usually [[KingArthur ''that'' Arthur]], one fanfic had Poland being some famous king who united the people who became the Poles, and another had Australia being Ned Kelly). Of course, that still leave the question of where the blinking hell Sealand came from.
** Could you give me a link to that fanfic?
*** Which one?
*** The one with Australia, preferably

[[WMG: The nation-tans genuinely don't know how bad war actually is for normal humans.]]
The worst they usually get from wars is a painful and embarrassing but non-lethal beating, so they assume it's the same for humans. This explains how the nation-tans appear to be perfectly sweet and nice people (with the exception of Russia) and remain on speaking terms with each other while the nations they represent get involved in horrible war crimes. From their point of view, it's like losing a playground game; stings a bit, but no real damage. HighOctaneNightmareFuel indeed, plus TearJerker if they ever found out.

[[WMG: Alternately, they're all secretly raving psychopaths and enjoy killing humans.]]
Human lives don't really matter when you're centuries old, and most people don't know the nation-tans exist so nobody can stop them.

[[WMG: The ahoges aren't actually hair, but antennae.]]
The nations appear to have sensation in them, and hair is dead tissue. Since they're not actually human, they're not obliged to follow human anatomy. Brings to mind the VermillionLies song "Long Red Hair", almost ...

[[WMG: The nation-tans are the souls of their respective countries]]
The troper will admit that this theory was inspired by a certain HumanoidAbomination but it makes sense. You know the term 'national psyche'? Well, that's what they are; the collective attitudes, values, emotions, motivations, abilities, beliefs and quirks of every person who considers themselves part of any given nation given human form, with some other, more metaphysical stuff mixed in.

* This. They are the "idea" of a nation, not the actual territory (that changes with time), not their government (even more fickle), nor their subdivisions (states, provinces, counties, etc.). They are almost the "spirit" of a people, a la Hegel.

[[WMG: Spain is responsible for the Italies' uselessness.]]
From [[http://hetalia-kink.livejournal.com/18439.html?thread=63121415#t63121415 this kinkmeme request]]: "So you all probably noticed how potentially badass Chibitalia and Chibimano were. But when they grew older, they became more and more useless and cowardly. In the series, they stated that tomatoes can make you useless. Spain grows tomatoes. But you don't see him eating them. He does, however, feed them to the Italies. The reason is this- he's afraid that the Italies, being descended from Rome, would rise up and control Europe. They do have the potential power and strength after all. In order to stop that from happening, Spain feeds them tomatoes so that they woud grow more useless and useless. BONUS: The times when Spain would fall into trouble? It's usually because he ate a tomato at that time, because there was nothing else to eat."

[[WMG: A nation-tan can not exist unless a 'national bond' of sorts is strong enough among it's people.]]
Allow me to explain. In order for a nation-state to genuinely exist internally, it's people must recognize a common bond between themselves. It can be something as simple as language, traditions, or something like agriculture. Or it can be something like religion, political beliefs, or a common enemy. In order for a nation-tan to come about, this bond has to be strong enough among the people to create an anthromorphical form, and thus a nation might be born. However, in order for the nation-tan to survive, others must recognize it as a potential form of state, or it will disappear the moment the bond between it's citizens become non-existent, or simply changes.

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[[folder: Future Nations]]

[[WMG: Brazil and India will appear, sooner or later]]
They'll be in the modern day strips, with Russia and China, as being the developing countries (or the wannabes). It'll be an allusion to BRIC. Prepare for lots of soccer and curry related jokes.
* I'm just imagining the war ending, and England having to go through Eddie Izzard's [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6omQ5JjjLsE bit]]... The section in question is in the last about 40 seconds (I couldn't find a more specific clip :<) But the rest is worth a listen; if for no other reason than that it's pretty close to what the series is.
** Confirmed, India made its appearance in the Halloween Special

[[WMG: The Asian {{Meido}} character [[http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt337/metanorn6/aph/asia3.jpg]] introduced after Australia is most likely to be the Philippines.]]
* She is counted among the Asian group, and yet, she wears a western Meido uniform. This probably reflects the Philippines' rather Western and Latin culture [despite being Asians] and the fact that many foreign maids are Filipino women. This has a bit of UnfortunateImplications for many Filipino fans because of RealLife abuses against the maids, but they are quite willing to accept her since she looks like a {{Tsundere}} and a NinjaMaid.
** Actually, that's Vietnam. There is a character in the first episode of the anime who is speculated to be the Phillipines, though.
*** WordOfGod says the maid is simply a Spanish housemaid. I predict we'll get Philippines when he finishes drawing the ASEAN10 as he said he wanted to do.
*** Officially Jossed. Himaruya was trying out another design for Vietnam with that sketch, and he's still trying to decide what type of hairstyle to give her.

[[WMG: Kurdistan-tan exists]]
* Kurdistan is a nation without a state, whose people tends to organize as their own government. It even provides services where and when it is able to. He is a young nation, who is argued over by older nation-tans who have joint custody of him.
** So he would be a brother to Iran, but Turkey and Iraq hate him for being annoying.

[[WMG: Just as East Germany is really Prussia, West Germany is really the Confederation of the Rhine.]]
* Which was itself formed from the broken HRE, so...

[[WMG: [[{{Oireland}} Ireland]] will be female.]]
The series has a distinct shortage of female compared to male nations. In Ireland's case, the author would be totally justified in making Ireland female, since Ireland's name ''Éireann'' / ''Éire'' gives us the (female) first name of [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin Erin]]. She could possibly be a BottleFairy {{Tsundere}} with CoolBigSis attributes, constantly fighting against England (now the main fighting has to do with the above-mentioned "custody battle over North Ireland"). She could also have had a hand in raising the other Commonwealth nations (after all, England IRL and in Hetalia had a hands-off approach; meanwhile, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Newfoundlanders Ca]][[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newfoundland_Irish na]][[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada–Ireland_relations da]] and the Oceania-region Commonwealth nations have a history of Irish immigration). Going off on a tangent, Ireland and Scotland may have actually raised the Commonwealth nations together in England's absence. That would explain [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Gaelic Canadian Gaelic]], and why more English Canadians claim Irish and/or Scottish heritage than English proper. Adding to my theory, [[BonnieScotland Scotland]] will have to be most definitely male, since what better name to give him than [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin Scott]]? Bonus points if they're [[ScotIreland twins]].
* The UK is completely male, it's already canon in that England's been tormented by his brothers since his childhood. Depending upon whether you believe that Ireland would be related to England or not, this would mean that it would also be represented by a male.
** Did it say that England ''only'' has brothers, or just has brothers plural? Because it's completely possible that they have a half-sister, and/or that Eire is the closer to Earth but less social fraternal twin to the CuteButCacophonic brother who isn't Scotland or Wales.
*** {{Jossed}}. It's specifically said England has four older brothers.
**** Where so? I remember it being said he was the youngest of four brothers, which would provide weirdness for Northern Ireland being one of the elders ones (unless the Irelands were twins). He has not seemed to say much about Ireland itself in regards to their relation to England or Northern Ireland, except that their brows are thick yet with a different feel than England's.
**** well maybe ireland is so tomboyish that aurthur considers her a brother even though she's a girl
**** I have read notes where he said that Ireland would probably be female.
**** If he's the youngest of 4, then the 4th brother would ''have'' to be Ireland, there's no real way around it. The UK has 4 countries, but Northern Ireland didn't make an appearance until the 20th century when England would already have been about 1,100 years old. Therefore, you're left with the brothers consisting of Scotland, Ireland, England, and Wales. Unless a source appears on the above troper's claim that the canon has changed, that's what we have to go with.
***** In regards to the above: check below for some links that show Northern Ireland as one of the brothers. This actually makes sense, since while Northern Ireland as we know it only appeared in the last century, the Province of ''Ulster'' has been around for longer than a united Ireland, being one of the small kingdoms that eventually came to be part of Ireland, much like the Heptarchy mentioned below.
***** Going off topic here, but if he's the youngest of four, what about Sealand?
***** You have to think of Sealand along the lines of America, he really doesn't factor into the equation despite the role of 'brother'. The "4 brothers" refer to the countries which made up the British Isles before the UK was formed. Northern Ireland, because it came so late, is also not counted in the original four. Because the UK doesn't represent Sealand (the UK has actually gone to great lengths to avoid dealing with them because they're so volatile and annoying), he also isn't counted when it's referred to England representing his brothers in meetings. I personally like to think of Sealand more as a child in a series insistent on the terms 'brother' and 'sister', he was more born from England than anything and he doesn't affect England's fraternity.
***** Maybe his brothers are Scotland, Wales, and ''Cornwall''. It may not technically be a different country these days and hasn't been for a long time but it was when England first came into existence and remained independent until the 11th century, it's believed to have been more or less left alone by the Anglo-Saxons, and there's apparently quite a few Cornish people who think they're separate from the English, plus it's got it's own culture, language (even if there's very few people who still speak it), and flag.
***** If Cornwall is personified, should Isle of Man and Brittany be too? Isle of Man would have to be a man of course, but would Brittany be male despite the name?
****** Well Brittany was independent until the 16th century, on the other hand, wouldn't they be France's?
****** Isle of Man is independently governed and not part of the UK, so it probably would have a personification. Whether or not he would appear in the series is a different matter (as an unimportant sidenote I like to include him when writing fanfiction).
****** It's possible that, due to the fluid change of "countries" in Britain, the 4 brothers have changed over time. England may only be the youngest of the Heptarchy (which would actually be seven, so scratch that), or maybe he ''was'' the youngest until a new one came along. Conversely, it hasn't been the first time the author has changed the gender of a Hetalia character. Hungary was originally gonna be a guy, and Poland a girl... so it really could change at his whim. Or, Ireland's a cross-dresser?
******* Maybe some of the Heptarchy were/are girls (based on RuleOfFunny Essex almost certainly was)? Or maybe he's the youngest of four ''surviving'' brothers, since some of the Heptarchy (eg, Wessex and Mercia) probably wouldn't have survived until the present day.
******* It would seem that [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Northern_Ireland.2C_Scotland.2C_and_Wales Northern Ireland]] was the correct assumption, illogical as it may be. But then, no one ever claimed Hetalia to be perfectly logical... [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Ireland Some Stuff is said about Ireland]] itself, so that's up in the air. Himaruya considered a female Ireland in 2007, but it's not set in stone, and it could easily change. Apparently, she would likely have been a crybaby if he ran with this idea. Well, this strengthens a few arguments without actually settling or jossing anything.

[[WMG: The Philippines already appeared in the anime but the staff did not name her.]] [[http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i269/nikkihiiragizawa/03spain.png]] the fact that she serves Spain [which in RealLife is her colonial master] is a good indication of this.
** According to the official Hetalia book, "World Wide Walking", that's not Philippines. According to the translation, that's just a maid who's just there in the background.
*** ''Yeah Right''. And what is my country (in)famous for in the rest of the world? ''Maids!''
**** Actually, Himaruya has confirmed that she is just a Spanish housemaid when a fan asked who she was once. So, there isn't really a personification for Philippines so far in the series.
**** Honestly, the belief that this is the Philippines seems more like Filipino fans reaching to find themselves in the canon more than actual, solid theory. A lot of nations have, at this point, not been personified; Philippines isn't an exception.

[[WMG: South Africa will be white and not black.]]
* It would be more realistic if he was related to England or Holland rather than being portrayed as black. After all, South Africa's history had been made mostly by whites.
** This is an incredibly racist, insular statement. The Xhosa, Bantu, Asanteman, Zulu, and many other black African political entities in that region had centuries of history before and after European colonization, it's just not a topic that white people generally care or know anything about. Furthermore, the history of modern South Africa 'made by whites' involved whites * in power* , yes - ruthlessly oppressing a vast black majority, as well as Asian and mixed-race people. The most significant event in the last fifty years of South Africa's history was the overcoming of that oppression by peaceful means under Nelson Mandela. All races of South African people participated in that effort, but the ANC, by inevitable demographics, also had a large black majority.
*** However, given that Himuruya is also influenced by Eurocentrism and concentrates mostly on * European* and East Asian history, the WMG is still valid.
*** Alternately, there may have been separate nation-tans for Colonial South Africa and Black South Africa, or Colonial South Africa and -tans for each of the sham state 'homelands' the Apartheid regime propped up. Modern South Africa could be White and Black South Africa's child, or just the two of them awkwardly trying to live together as a democracy. Given the high degree of separation and disparity that still persists there, I believes the latter theory.
*** Alternately [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment alternately]], South Africa is biracial with a self-loathing complex.
* Perhaps there are two, what had been a colony and the original nation, and they fight for control of the house? It would fit beyond just South Africa into a lot of places which were occupied by Europeans.
** The only problem I see with that is, with the amount of African nations that had at one point been under colonial rule, it would get rather crowded and hard to remember who is who. And Hetalia is [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters one big clusterfuck]] already.
*** This troper personally opts for the notion that the ''original'' South Africa-tan is/was white because it was founded as an European colony: all the native nation-tans were just forcibly shoved into his/her house against their will. But now there's a new biracial South Africa-tan that's the child of all these previous nation-tans who's currently running the house.
* America isn't Native American, Australia isn't Aborigine, and Japan isn't Ainu. Sadly, it appears as though native populations don't factor into the race of a tan. I'd imagine that India and Bangladesh are British Empire-born as well...At best, maybe as tan as Egypt or Turkey.
** I would say it's based more on what the 'typical' modern day inhabitant from that country is. America and Australia are, or at least are considered, majority-white countries, so they're white. I would say India and Bangladesh would be, well, ethnically Indian-looking (not British), because at least as far as I know that is the general opinion on what people from India look like. The history of South Africa is complicated and the general 'opinion' on what race they are rather split, so really god knows.

[[WMG: If there is ever a Philippines-tan she will be a girl her human name will be somewhere along the lines of Corazon Rizal.]]
This is WMG isn't it? \\
"Las Filipinas" (The Philippines in Spanish) is a feminine noun, and as said somewhere higher up in this page there aren't that many female countries. Unless another WMG above is true and he made the same mistake with the Philippines as he did with America.
Why Corazon Rizal? Well Philippines-tan will most likely have a Spanish name (almost everyone in the Philippines does). Plus it'd be a nice tribute to [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corazon_Aquino a well-loved former president]] and [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jose_Rizal the national hero.]] Some of the other countries' names are based off of historical figures as well.
* Alternatively, she works as a Spanish maid/dominatrix who practices boxing...

[[WMG: DoctorDoom and BlackPanther are Nation-tans for Latveria and Wakanda respectively.]]
* More specifically they are what occurs after a Nation-tan decides that the current ruling bodies of the land they represent are not acting in their land's best interest and take ruler ship for themselves. They become internally prosperous but any and all actions outside there countries fail since they disrupted the true order of things. T'Challa is aware of this that is the real reason why he doesn't sell his cure for cancer, because it only works with Wakanda. Doom on the other hand refuses to believe it hence why he keeps trying to take over the rest of the world.
** IronManArmoredAdventures universe's BlackPanther isn't Wakanda's Nation-tan. His father was explicitly killed in his back-story, which means that he's human... [[WildMassGuessing or Nation-tans can pass on their status as Nation-tan to their biological children after their death.]] Although, his only successful actions outside Wakanda were against a fellow Wakandan, so the rest of the theory holds true.
** We've seen how Italy came out of Rome's death, so possibly T'Challa's father represented a previous version of Wakanda that was destroyed to the point that after being reconstructed, T'Challa came into being.


[[WMG: Mexico is female, and will pretend to be in a relationship with America.]]
Since [[Memes/{{Politics}} Canada is]] [[MistakenIdentity America's hat]], Mexico [[IncrediblyLamePun must be]] [[HoYay America's]] [[TheBeard beard]]. (See [[IncrediblyLamePun Tony's entry]] near the top [[JustForPun for precedence of APH politics based on punnery]].)
* I think that happened in ''ScandinaviaAndTheWorld''.
* Given this is Hetalia, and it doesn't shy away from HoYay, why is the 'female' part important?
** Because if she wasn't then she wouldn't be TheBeard.

[[WMG: All Stateless Nations have a nation-tan.]]
Every stateless nations are represented by a tan somewhere in this universe. (For examples, please see the Encyclopedia of Stateless Nations). People have talked about Kurdis-tan, and we've seen Sealand in the anime already. Why not others? Maybe New England is around somewhere, living with America. And Quebec is in Canada's house.
* I'm pretty sure this one's already canon, considering bodies like Quebec and Vatican City have been personified. It's most likely that he just has had no need to show everything that has representation, and not a matter of that their representation isn't there.
** Which leaves: all the nations and stateless nations have a nation-tan, it's just that Himaruya had yet to reveal them. In any case, all nation-tans and stateless states do exist.

[[WMG: Che from {{Evita}} is Argentina.]]
In ''Evita'' he serves as an everyman/narrator, and at one point appears to be arguing with Eva, appealing to her conscience to help the poor like she promised to do. And, well, who better to narrate about a country's most famous citizen than the country himself. (Yes, I am aware he's supposed to be Che Guevara, but this sounds better.)
* Che from ''Evita'' has nothing to do with Che Guevara. ''Che'' is a coloquialism that can be translated as ''dude''. Che represents the people of Argentina, the working class of Argentina or Argentina itself.

[[WMG: South Africa-tan is, in accordance with both theories, black. And white.]]
During the time where the apartheid was going on and whites ruled in South Africa, they refused to acknowledge the real South Africa-tan as their nation-tan and forced a white person into being their nation-tan. Since he was human and never meant for that role, the pressure of it more or less breaks him - we've seen that nations have some of their people's stereotypes as their personality traits. South Africa has so many cultures, languages, and groups of people native and otherwise that all of their stereotypical personality traits become his and, since many of them utterly contradict each other, it overloads him, driving him into a catatonic state. Normal nations develop slowly over time, so the real South African-tan is able to handle the diverse personalities of the nation's people. The white South Africa-tan couldn't take the sudden overload. Now that black people have gotten more rights there and have taken back their country, the real South Africa-tan is back. He or she probably let the white South Africa-tan die off peacefully, as by this time he would've lived far longer than a human was meant to be with a constant stream of MindRape thrown at him; the kindest solution was to just let him go. As a result of this clusterfuck and the failure of forcing a human to be a nation-tan, no other country ever attempted it again.
* Or let's say that the original South African or Transvaal Republic fought by the British in the Boer War was the original South Africa-tan, then he was demoted to a province as the Transvaal then after the end as Gauteng province. Then, a black South-Africa tan, a mixed or Colored one, took over and became the present South Africa-tan.
* Or maybe South Africa-tan gained the power to change colors (like a chameleon) because of the stress.

[[WMG: Mexico is to America as Belarus is to Russia.]]
People think this because of the issues with immigration between Mexico and America. [[http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/group.php?gid=133484843337288 There's a Facebook page for it]]
* America isn't afraid of Mexico, though, nor does he try to avoid it like Russia always does with Belarus. From the few times Mexico has been mentioned, America seems to alternate between thinking of and working with Mexico like a business partner and considering it a rival/nuisance.
** Besides, Belarus is very forward about 'crossing Russia's borders', if Mexico tried the same thing it would probably end up either shot or sent back home (if not both). Especially now, as the US is in an immigration crack down, there's no way Mexico could be so blatant about his presence. The fanon makes their relationship concerning immigration almost a TomAndJerry-esque one, and that might be more likely.

[[WMG: The Mexican-American War was the result of a LoveTriangle that [[TearJerker went horribly wrong]].]]
I'd say a type eleven; with America at point A, Mexico at B, and Texas at C. Or a type eight with the twist that despite all three loving each other they wanted the other two to be theirs exclusively thus making [[TenchiSolution the obvious solution]] not desired.
* Texas gave America her glasses as she passed away.

Alternatively...

[[WMG: Texas was the (now deceased) [[HasTwoMommies child of America and Mexico.]]]]
The Mexican-American War was a custody dispute [[TearJerker that ended tragically]]. Texas gave America his glasses in this version, too, but possibly a little earlier.\\
(Sorry, I just can't picture The Republic of Texas still being alive, and if s/he isn't alive then it will be played for Drama.)
* At the same time, APH is an allegorical telling of history that is played for RuleOfFunny. And your theory has precedence going against it. Prussia is still around, as well as the other Italy, meaning that two historical nations that no longer exist as nation-states are still running around causing general havoc. Sealand was never a nation (hell, you can describe it as a glorified oil platform and basically get it's nature down).\\
Just look at China. If you wanted to play it up for drama, the PRC is a young nation who systematically killed all the siblings who rose up from the remains of the Chinese empire, but has the bad fortune of being mentored by Russia (and getting mind-freaked) while waiting desperately for his chance to finally finish the job with the ROC (who, while never regaining her full strength due to her illness, is friends with the US and managed to create a vibrant culture of her own).\\
Drama only happens on rare occasion, angst is typically out of character, and the main appeal of the show is the fact that it has so many cheerfully unbalanced stereotypes playing out the roles of history.\\
Besides, wouldn't you want to see this joke with the Zimmerman telegraph:\\
''America: WE HAD A DEAL! I STAY OF EUROPE, AND YOU STAY OF THE AMERICAS! IT WAS THAT SIMPLE!''\\
''Texas: Um... hey, ya'll... I really don't like the idea of Mexico trying to invade my vita...''\\
''America: Shut up, Texas! The grown ups are talking.''
* Actually, the joke I want to see come from the Zimmerman telegraph involves a Tsundere Mexico turning down the offer because of the numerous ways it would upset America but saying s/he turned it down because of how difficult it would be (despite the fact that Mexico and America weren't that close at the time). However the main reason I assumed Texas had a bad end was because the glasses that are supposed to represent Texas came across as a TragicKeepsake, and there can't be a tragic keepsake without a tragedy... however during the reading of your response I figured ways for it to be something other than a tragic keepsake and thus tragedy is no longer required.
** Considering how it's now canon that provinces and such are personified, it's hard to imagine that an economy and population as large as Texas would have been killed off.
** Not to mention the spirit. If the Nation-tans are personifications of belief and identity, well... Texans still celebrate Texas Independence Day, identify themselves as Texans before Americans, and you'll see twice as many Texas flags as American flags if you visit. It's hard to see Texas being dead with all that.
*** Following the same logic, there is quite likely a Hawaii as well.
*** [[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/10/13/chile-flag-mistaken-for-t_n_761511.html When they recognize the Texan flag, of course.]]
[[WMG: Regardless of whether either of the previous two theories is true, Mexico will have a huge case of BelligerentSexualTension with America.]]
* Even if ''Mexico'' isn't a girl, most Latin-American Nation-Tans will be. The Dominican Republic and Haiti will have a sort of [[RedOniBlueOni Italy-Brother's dynamic]], Barbados has the Iggy-brows (which she ''hates''), Colombia is a serious emotional wreck, and Puerto Rico is so {{Tsundere}} towards America that she tries to forget that she's technically one with him.

[[WMG: There was never a Confederate States-tan.]]
* Rather, the CSA was a council of States-tan. Since this is APH we're talking about, all of them were cheerfully deranged and able to be defeated through their eccentricities.
* No, she's clearly America's estranged sister. Her name is [[IncrediblyLamePun Dixie]].
** We never see her because she's 1. not politically relevant anymore (she's only still alive thanks to [[ClapYourHandsIfYouBelieve power of belief]]) and 2. Alfred represents her and the Native America-tans as Arthur does the other British nations.
*** Arthur represents the other British nations politically, though. Bodies like Native Americans are essentially unspoken for, especially outside of their various jurisdictions. If Alfred was representing them, he forgot.
* Another theory is that he/she exists as a Brazilian Enclave and city called Americana. After the Civil War, many former Confederates immigrated to Brazil, where they were known as Confederadoes. Though they consider themselves Brazilian and no longer clamor for States' rights, they still remember their Confederate heritage. It's likely that CSA was dying by the end of the Civil War and America, not wanting to have his sibling die, gave him/her over to Brazil so he/she could continue to exist.
* Maybe The Confederacy was a figment America's imagination that somehow went wild, and now the Southern states believe he's an actual nation-tan.
* Perhaps it was a LiteralSplitPersonality?


[[WMG: Canada and America have a older brother named Newfoundland.]]
* Newfoundland was where the vikings landed at Vinland making him the oldest. Newfoundland was also a completely separate British Colony until 1949. Meaning that he fought both world wars before joining the Confederation. We never see him because neither America nor Canada can understand the accent he speaks with.

[[WMG: Each of the indigenous American nations also has a personification.]]
There can't just be "Native America-tan" because that's ''not'' a nation. But there could certainly be, say, Apache-tan and Lakota-tan and so forth. As someone mentioned above, nowadays they're probably living on reservations with the people whose belief keeps them going.
* We've only seen one canonically so far, and the chances of seeing more are quite slim. But, especially considering the micro-nation spree that Himaruya has been on lately, within the laws of the canon they probably are all represented individually.

[[WMG:The personfication of Lady Liberty is America's wife/girlfriend.]]
The reason why is America is extremely dedicated to liberty,justice,and the pursuit of happiness.Plus in the past Lady Liberty has been used as a personification of America.I can even imagine that she came along with France as an extra bonus to the statue in her honor. I cannot think of any other country who could fit Alfred to a T.I can see her as his faithful spouse or girlfriend who carrys the high ideals the country stands for and has a continuing friendly relationship with France(provided that he doesn't do anything funny to her which would make Alfred hunt him down to the ends of the earth).I can see Alfred devoted to her and probably treats her like a queen.In other words Lady Liberty is Alfred's perfect first lady.

[[WMG: Wales will own a dragon.]]
If England gets a unicorn and loads of fairies and stuff hovering around, then his brothers should get something too. Scotland, of course, has the Loch Ness Monster and Ireland should have some [[{{leprechaun}} leprechauns]] hanging around his house. Also, [[{{Rule of Cool}} dragons are awesome]].
* Well, [[spoiler: China's boss is a dragon, so it's possible.]]
* In playing with the stereotypes, wouldn't it be more likely he just owns lots and lots of sheep?
** He does own of sheep. [[PutOnABus He never shows up on the world stage anymore because he has to keep the dragon from eating them all day.]]

[[WMG: If the Confederate States of America exists, he/she will be shorter and younger than America.]]
Nations' heights and ages are at least partially determined by how powerful they are, how much land they have, and how stable they are internally. The CSA suffered from the same problem as HRE--a strong appearance but a weak constitution. His/Her vital regions could never really agree on anything except that they wanted to secede and some even wanted to secede from the CSA. Therefore, given CSA's condition and later time of "birth," it's likely that his/her growth might have been stunted.
* This one I can see, since there's no way that it could be ''dead'' with how many people still consider it alive and well. But with how fractured/underfunded/hit by natural disasters it is... Probably short and pretty scrawny.

[[WMG: Confederate States-tan was brutally murdered as an infant]]
If new nation-tans are children, and they are linked to the nations they represent... well either that or...

[[WMG: Confederate States-tan was actually a split personality/clone of America ]]
And in fact, still exists even today, deep inside America's brain, making him elect G.W. Bush.
* I love you.

[[WMG: There are two Mexico's]]
North and South. North is more western and South more traditional. Most likely opposite genders too; I'm going for the male to be North.
* This theory could be (and usually is) applied to nations that haven't been personified yet. While I understand the motivation, it doesn't seem to take into account how the series is. Every nation, especially one with a very large population, is culturally diverse. Yet we have single personifications for Russia, China, etc.. Mexico shouldn't be any different.
** It all depends on what Himaruya decides to show us. There appears to be only one nation per country, but we sometimes see more. South Italy, Prussia (East Germany?), and even Scotland, North Ireland, and Wales have been confirmed to exist as nations living with the "main" representatives. It could just be that whoever is dominant gets to take on the name of the country, while the other constituents taken a backseat. We don't really get to see any others, and unless Himaruya decides to show us or [[WordOfGod tell us]], we may never know if there is more than one Mexico (if Mexico even appears at all). Heck, at one point, Himaruya debated making a character for Castile. Not to mention that China ''did'' get more than one personification: Hong Kong is now a part of China (having been returned), and Taiwan ''wants to be'' China (hosting the government-in-exile of of the Republic of China). We haven't seen enough of Russia to get the full story on him, yet. As well, considering the "micro-nation" wave that happened recently (on top of the ones already introduced), it really wouldn't be that hard to imagine.
*** Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales ''are'' separate countries, as was East Germany. Don't know a lot about Italian history, but if Italy wasn't two countries at some point then we can always go with the justification that Italy is the main character, so it's natural there would be more focus on Italian history.
**** Correction, they ''were'' separate countries. And while they maintain their own separate cultures (and recently, parliaments), they are still part of the UK - a unitary state. Arguably, the same point could be made for any number of "countries" and "nations", depending on how we use the term. Mexico is a federation (The United Mexican States). That means it could easily have one, two, or even multiple -tans (a la the German states that had appeared at one point). It could also be that Mexico ''once'' had more than one, and the number's been thinned down to a single -tan. All of this, of course, depends on whether or not Himaruya bothers to make Mexico canon by drawing him/her/[[TakeAThirdOption them/it]]. As for Italy, there have been a number of states on the peninsula, from a united Italy to two Italys to a large number of city-states.
***** Scotland, Wales, England and Northern Ireland are still separate countries today. Although countries are usually independent states it's not necessary for them to be. In this case, England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland are formerly independent states that retain their cultural identity, institutions, and historic memories, which by definition makes them countries. These four countries make up the larger country known as the Unite Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

[[WMG: Should Åland ever be introduced...]]
He/she will be {{Yandere}} for Sweden, influenced by his/her time spent in Russia's house. Sweden will be oblivious (because he/she was such a sweet kid, pre-Russia) while Finland will use this as his reason for trying to keep him/her in his house, so he can keep an eye on him/her.

[[WMG: During the Qing Dynasty, Manchuria is the Prussia to China.]]
If Prussia was the dominant state in Germany, then in Qing Dynasty China, Manchuria is, since the Qing Dynasty is Manchu in origin. However, Manchuria was later dominated by Russia and later Japan, the latter giving him/her nominal independence as Manchukuo. However, she was reconquered back by China and was only mentioned rarely since.
* It would be history canon, but considering the fact that the region went through a complete shitkicking throughout WWII and the Second Sino-Japanese War, she may not have even survived. Especially since Manchuria was heavily Sinicized following it's incorporation into China. It may still have a regional identity, though, so he/she may still exist similar to Tibet.
* Perhaps Manchuria lives in China's house like Prussia lives in Germany's house, except s/he is now called Dongbei and does things like be a tech help operator (Dalian is a major destination, present-day, of job outsourcing and vacationing for Japanese tech companies) and making crude jokes about the good old days. The Manchu ethnic identity hasn't died yet, so the idea can be explored in fanfiction.

[[WMG: There are two Ireland's]]
Northern and Ireland. We can presume the latter will be female, since WordOfGod is he was thinking of a female, crybaby, Ireland back in 2007.
* I think most people had assumed that. There should be, logically.
* I've been pimping these several times on this page, but once more shouldn't hurt. [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Ireland Ireland]] and [[http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Northern_Ireland.2C_Scotland.2C_and_Wales North Ireland]] have been mentioned as minor characters that haven't been seen or properly developed yet. A lot of doors remain open for their eventual characterization.

[[WMG: Portugal is an AloofBigBrother to Spain]]
Well, he might not be older but he has the looks at least. If he's not the older then Spain is a BigBrotherMentor ''and'' a BigBrotherBully.
Oh, and they have the [[TheGloriousWarOfSisterlyRivalry The Glorious War Of Brotherly Rivalry]] going on.
* Portugal's [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Portuguese_Alliance close relationship]] with Spain's maritime nemesis England probably doesn't help matters. Goodness, they probably ganged up on Spain to make his life hell during the colonial era...
* Portugal also probably holds a grudge for when Spain was [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iberian_Union in control of]] him or her. Their relations have consistently been terrible until the modern day, though they're starting to work it out now.

[[WMG: [[SouthOfTheBorder Mexico]] is the [[ChildByRape child]] of [[BadassSpaniard Spain]] and the [[{{Mayincatec}} Aztec Empire]].]]
Maybe not rape (Invasion doesn't have to mean rape, reguardless of what the FanDumb does in fanfiction), but, this was pretty much how Mexico was born in history. This troper can't picture Spain simply "finding" New Spain running around and adopting them like England and America. Just throwing this out there.
* The whole 'England adopting America' scenario didn't make sense in the first place. [[PlotHole What is a European child doing in a land of people which looks nothing like him?]]
** When America first appeared, it was stated that there were at least 5 European Tans on the continent (there were actually quite a few more). There's no reason a European-descended Tan running around would be a PlotHole.
* That is actually a very credible theory since Mexico is a mestizo country since the beginning, and ALMOST all the people in Mexico have a distant Spanish and Native american ancestor...
* Just fot the record there was a lot of rape when the Spanish first came to Mexico and many latin countries, and was the main reason of many mestizos...thus the born of Mexico

[[WMG: Puerto Rico will be female]]
The island is usually referred to using feminine pronouns, both because of it's beauty (countries are usually referred to in a feminine way) and traditionally. I'm also betting on her being a loud BottleFairy who's related to Spain and America somehow.

[[WMG: The distant ancestors of the nation-tans...]]
...are both still alive, and are personifications of the various [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Y-chromosome_DNA_haplogroup genetic]] [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_mitochondrial_DNA_haplogroup markers]] in the modern human population. The Y-chromosome-tans are all male, and the mitochondial DNA-tans are all female. Together, they gave rise to the earliest nation-tans, from which all others are descended. Of course, this also means that the first nation-tans were Y-chromosomal Adam and Mitochondrial Eve, denoting a common ancestor of we mortals and the nation-tans.

[[WMG: Wales was responsible for naming Canada and America.]]
Or, at least, partially responsible. It was established earlier that England had several older siblings, Wales among them. As well, we know that England likely names the North America Bros., due to both of them having Anglophone names (Alfred was King of England and Matthew was the name of the ship in which Cabot sailed to Newfoundland). However, if you go to [[LandOfMyFathersAndTheirSheep the page for Wales]]:

-->''"A lot of people in Wales are called '''Jones''', '''Williams''' or Davies..."''

Obviously, Wales was able to convince England to give America and Canada Welsh last names to go with their English first names. Makes you wonder which Commonwealth country is going to get the "Davies" surname...?

[[WMG: Central Asia hasn't been touched upon yet because...]]
In real world relations, The Baltics want nothing to do with Russia while Ukraine and Belarus are treated as being the same ethnic group as Russia. This translates easily into Hetalia with the former being scared shitless of him and the latter being his siblings. However, other ex-USSR countries like Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan would theoretically be on good terms with Russia (while not being related to him). Introducing them would possibly involve reworking Russia's character (or making retcons left and right) since he appears to not have any actual friends and any time we see Soviet!Russia, he's with only the Baltics.

[[WMG: England forgave New England for starting the American Revolution.]]
Assuming there is a New England character we haven't been introduced to yet. Evidence is in this quote from the website of the British Consulate in Boston:
"There is a strong relationship between the United Kingdom and New England, built on the wealth of our many historic, academic, business and cultural connections. But this relationship is also firmly based in the present, and a shared commitment to scientific innovation and technological advance. We are proud to promote British excellence in this dynamic part of the United States, working with New England's commercial, scientific and political communities to stimulate the exchange of ideas and the development of our common interests."
* This same sort of thing could be said for any of the original colonies, though. Virginia, for example, was exceedingly important to the British (economically, socially, governmentally, etc.), and was where the Revolutionary War was finally lost. For the exact reasons you've listed, they are also currently in very good standing with the United Kingdom. There would need to be more provided to say that "New England, as an individual, was forgiven" rather than "all the colonies were forgiven".
** That point is conceded. But the important thing to remember is that New England was the one that started it. The other colonies just participated. So it'd be simpler to forgive the other colonies, who could be seen to have just jumped on the bandwagon, than it is to forgive the young upstart that started the whole thing.
*** That's assuming, though, that the one who started it is the one who will be given more responsibility. That's often not the case. In WWI the Austro-Hungarians actually started the war, and the Germans were brought in because of their alliance. Guess who got more of the blame.

[[WMG: The Golden Horde might be one of Russia's autonomous republics.]]

[[WMG: Portugal will be confirmed as a girl in Volume 4.]]
The last time when Himaruya posted drafts of a Portugal, he seems to be leaning towards a female Portugal. Either the {{cool big sis}} type or the {{tomboy}} type.
* She'll probably be a CoolBigSis. And possibly one who has a ''smashing'' sense of humor.
** She'll probably be a CoolBigSis to England, as Portugal is England's oldest ally. The above AloofBigBrother relationship WMG with Spain likely still applies, regardless of Portugal's actual gender.
** A CoolBigSis or a LoveInterest, it all depends on how you look at the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Portuguese_Alliance Anglo-Portuguese Alliance]].
** She could also be a bit of a CoolBigSis to America, as the first neutral country to recognize his independence after the Revolution. They [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_%E2%80%93_United_States_relations still get on well today]]. (Second point with regards to England may also apply...)

[[WMG: Scotland has a beard.]]
Name ten Scottish men who don't.
* [[ComicallyMissingThePoint David Tennant, Gordon Brown, Kevin McKidd, John Barrowman, Alex Salmond, Angus Robertson, Ewan MacGregor, Bruce Crawford, John Swinney, and Keith Brown.]]
* My scottish brother in law, his two brothers, his father, one of his uncles, his best man, all three of his cousins, and one of his grandfathers; half of whom could grow a beard but prefer to be clean shaven. I met them all at the wedding. Heck I even have photos.

[[WMG: In reference to an earlier WMG...]]
The Colbert Nation is a real nation that has its own nation-tan - and that tan is Stephen Colbert.
[[WMG: The Confederate States of America would have his ahoge represent Roanoke, Virginia.]]

[[WMG: The British Isles are all female except for England.]]
Think about it, in Hetalia, who would see this coming?
* They've been referred to as England's brothers, and when asked about Scotland, Himaruya's speculations used the word "he". He speculated that Ireland could be female. However, nothing's really set in stone yet, so this is possible.

[[WMG: Wales is England's Canada.]]
As in, if anyone sees Wales, they assume they're England. I am English, and for a long time I honestly thought Wales was a region of England.
** Well, technically it ''was'' for some hundred years...
** I tend to think of Wales on the same terms as people use for the Confederacy. He comes out for a photo op once and a while, but for the most part he's locked in the basement and ignored.
** Alternate theory: ''Cornwall'' is England's Canada. To explain: the four parts of the United Kingdom are more separate then you'd expect. N. Ireland, Scotland and Wales all have "Regional Assemblies", which are mini-Parliaments that can call referendums and pass separate laws (although they still have to go by what England's Parliament says). Cornwall ''doesn't'' have one, but there is a ''huge'' push to have Cornwall as a separate region with its own RA and also to get Cornish listed as a separate nationality. I can picture Cornwall being England's pissy twin brother who is always getting confused for England. He's a lot bitchier about it, though, and flies into a rage when confused for England. As such, the other Brits try to keep him out of the spotlight. Instead of pancakes, he has pasties, and ''Heaven help you'' if you confuse him for England while he's ''drunk''...
*** As a cornish girl, I am in full support of this theory.

[[WMG: Where are Scotland, Wales and Ireland?]]
Scotland and Wales are fighting Ireland. I'm not the best at history, but I'm fairly sure the IRA (Irish Republican Army) started fighting for Ireland's independence just after or just before World War 2, and since they're still trying to get Northern Ireland today, (Granted, more peacefully) It makes sense to me that that would be where the other British nations are.
* I... can't see this. It's probably mainly my own headcanon, but I don't think Scotland would fight Ireland for going independent, when they threaten it so much themselves. Also, the UK and Ireland are not at war, and haven't been since Ireland gained independence. I can see some pretty heated arguments going on, but not constant fighting. Plus, I think most of Ireland's anger is probably aimed at England. I think they're just some of the many countries that haven't appeared yet.
* The successful Irish War of Independence (it wasn't the first one) was actually kickstarted during ''WWI'' (continued and finished afterwards), making this WMG possibly right but set in the wrong time. Scotland might have fought Ireland with an "if I can't leave you can't!" mentality. Ireland was neutral in WWII, though I like to think he/she did what some Irish soldiers did by pretending to be North Irish - there might be grudges but Ireland still cares about the family that's taking a beating. Scotland and Wales - and Cornwall if he's the last of the older brothers - are playing human. Scotland and Cornwall are with the army or the RAF while Wales is in military intelligence (apparently Welsh was used to develop spy codes like the US used Native American dialects). North Ireland is also either playing human with the RAF or is too young physically to fight and instead helps out on the home front.

[[WMG: Ireland is another one of those characters everyone thought was a different gender to what she actually was]]
Thereby rectifying the "Ireland will be female" with the "England was picked on by his four ''brothers''". Because to him, she was his brother, as he didn't know better. Everyone was probably somewhat embarrassed when they figured it out.

[[WMG: Berwick-Upon-Tweed has a tan.]]
Anyone else heard the legend of how Berwick was accidentally left out of the end of the Crimean War (A WAR WITH RUSSIA)? I would not leave something like that glory out. Also, with the disputes between Scotland and England over whose it actually is, it's difficult to have it any other way.
* This could go one of two ways, in my mind. Either Berwick-Upon-Tweed is an immense badass and would go after Russia if Russia ever came near him, or everyone forgot about him in that war, except for Russia. Both of these are the main choices I can see because they sound most like Hetalia's style to me.
* This troper's head canon is that the personification of Berwick-on-Tweed used to be the Anglo-Saxon kingdom of Bernicia (aka the northern part of Northumbria) who's been progressively demoted over the centuries and isn't happy about it.

[[WMG: Kazakhstan...]]
Is Russia's childhood friend, whose history goes something like this:
# Being begrudgingly annexed into Russia's house in the 1700's.
# Changing his entire way of life for Russia despite still fighting back against him.
# Letting Russia move his industries and citizens into his house during WWII and shouldering the Union's agricultural needs, while claiming he's going to leave for China.
# Staying in Russia's house longer than any other Soviet Republic and only leaving when Russia points it out.
Present day, Russia's military and economic cooperation with Kazakhstan is second only to Belarus among the former Soviets, and Kazakhstan gives Russia huge discounts on oil and gas. So why haven't we seen him yet? Because Russia's too confused by his {{Tsundere}}ness!

[[WMG: Fem!America isn't just America's female counterpart, she is/was the Confederacy.]]
She has the stereotypical flirty, ditzy Southern belle look, as well as GrayEyes (See types 4 and 5, not to mention the Confederate soldiers had grey uniforms) and it may just be the excess patriotism but Southerners refer to America as female a lot more than Northerners do. However, a notable thing in the way of this theory is the lack of [[{{Meganekko}} Texas.]]
* America is male, and has glasses to represent Texas. Femmerica does not wear glasses, but is very Well endowed. The conclusion? Her boobs are Texas.
* {{Jossed}}: she lives in another dimension with the rest of the Nyotalia girls.

[[WMG: Israel-tan will rise from the dead.]]
While a number of nations are clearly descended from ancient powers, Israel is the only example of a nation that has genuinely come back to life.
* That would be pretty cool, but it's probably more likely a new one was born (cf. Ancient Greece and Modern Greece). Although, actually, Poland also came back to life (albeit after a much shorter period of time), and he's still the original... so this would be a fair thing to happen.

[[WMG: Israel is the second oldest living nation with China taking first place]]
Probably not, Israel is a rather young country.
* But it's an incredibly old nation.
* Alternatively, Israel is a young -tan but there's another who represents Old Israel/Jewish Diaspora. Likely Modern Israel's older sibling or parent.

[[WMG: Rome raped Israel and got her pregnant with Palestine]]

[[WMG: America is secretly in love with Mexico]]

[[WMG: America is married to Puerto Rico]]

[[WMG: There are ''four'' USA-tans.]]
It's been said that the USA can be divided roughly in four areas, so here we go.
* Northern States: Alfred, of course! He won the American Civil War and so gets to represent the USA in world/G8 conferences.
* Southern States: Amelia Davies. She used to be the Confederacy of States, but then she lost the Civil War and was held as a prisoner. She made several escape attempts before finally being allowed out. She's racist and homophobic, but she's slowly getting over both.
* Hawaii: Ailana Kalula. She's a fairly cool person and quite friendly. She's also good at dancing, and is most likely black.
* Alaska: I can't think of a good first name for him, but the poor guy's surname is Braginski, as he's Russia, Ukraine and Belarus' little brother. He's scared of his siblings, but gets on OK with most other people. He can see Canada.
* They all live together, and have a sitcom-esque relationship.

[[WMG: The girls seen in [[http://i56.tinypic.com/312bbyb.jpg here]] with Rome are the female medditerranean and middleastern ancient civilizations.]]

[[WMG: Cyprus will be a [[BigBrotherBully Big Brother Bully]] towards TRNC and Russia will be his [[BigBrotherMentor Big Brother Mentor]]]]
If you did the research, Cyprus-TRNC relations aren't as great. Probably Cyprus will become Yandere to keep that "Peace" Stigma but secretly loathes TRNC and probably Turkey. Not only that, Russia and Cyprus have [[HeterosexualLifePartners REALLY]] [[JustFriends GOOD]] relations with each other.
* {{Jossed}} in the Drama CD

[[WMG: The former-Yugoslav nation-tans will appear soon.]]
It would start with their "big sister", the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (Yugoslavia). She would take some of the younger nation-tans into her home and take care of their countries for them.

After sometime, the nations got fed up with their sister and began the Yugoslav wars. Of course they win, and Yugoslavia ends up dying (parallel to Grandpa Rome and going to country-heaven) or just disappearing for a long time.

[[BrotherSisterTeam Bosnia and Herzegovina]] will be twins or just siblings. [[ChivalrousPervert Croatia]] will be male and there will be some BelligerentSexualTension between him and female [[{{Tsundere}} Slovenia]]. [[WhoIsThisGuyAgain Montenegro]] will be male as well. [[AloofBigBrother Serbia]] and [[CuteShotaroBoy Kosovo]] will be brothers, with the former being the BigBrotherBully. [[SilkHidingSteel Macedonia]] will be female and [[BigBrotherWorship look up to]] her "big brother" Greece, who will [[BigBrotherBully tease]] her but nonetheless be [[BigBrotherInstinct supportive of her]]. Kosovo will prefer Macedonia being his sibling because she is much more supportive on his quest to be recognized as a full-fledged Nation-tan.

[[WMG: Ireland is a vampire with a split personality]]
* Ireland is a vampire, evidence for this; where was Bram Stoker from? Ireland, that's where! so it makes sense for Ireland to be a vampire. As for the split personality, my thinking for this is that Northern ireland (the guy that now represents it at least) is the original who wanted to stay as part of the UK whereas the Republic came into being as the bit that wanted out of the UK and as a result his Nyotalia seperated from him (therefore a split personality) and became the Republic so Northern Ireland is a boy and Republic of Ireland is a girl they're still the same person but they exist in separate bodies.

[[WMG: Venezuela and Colombia will be female]]
* Both countries are known for their beautiful women. Venezuela will be a [[TallDarkAndBishoujo drop-dead gorgeous]] woman, referencing the fact that most Miss Universe winners are from Venezuela. She will have a love/hate relationship with America, representing how both countries are known for their tense, yet somewhat cordial relationship, will be {{VitriolicBestBuds}} with her sister (Twin?) Colombia (Due to the fact that they were originally one country, so there's the old nostalgia, and the way both governments go from being besties to sworn enemies at the drop of a hat) and will have a {{NeverLiveItDown}} moment with Spain, because of that one moment when Spain's prime minister told Hugo Chavez to shut the hell up.
** Colombia is also quite beautiful and always dramatic and over-the-top, referencing the fact that the most successful soap operas are Colombian (the other nations think it's because she's always doing cocaine, though). She is always trying to catch up with the other, more developed nations but never quite reaching their status, and she has a sort of admiration/crush on the older and "wiser" America, although she sometimes can't really comprehend why she likes America in the first place ([[HopelessSuitor It is no more than a high school crush, though]]). She really, really likes her [[MustHaveCaffeine coffee]] and is always ready to party and have fun (referencing the tons of carnivals in the country), normally with Brazil.

[[WMG: If the states of the 13 Colonies get personifications, they will be older (physically) than America.]]

[[WMG: The three nations that is next to Vietnam and Thailand in Hetaween are Malayu,Laos and either Burma or Cambodia]]
* Cause they're definately not just simple human(Look at the man on the right outfit,same as Thailand)

[[WMG: Northern Ireland is England and Ireland's child.]]
Since NI's much more recent than they are, it makes more sense to this troper than NI being their sibling.
* But Himaruya doesn't really go for making characters other characters' children, except when the parent is dead. Plus, I'm fairly sure the settlers in Northern Ireland from Great Britain were more Scottish than English, so if they were someone's child, I don't see why it would be England.

[[WMG: Ireland once dated South Italy]]
* Explanation?
* It would be more likely that Ireland had a fling with Spain - he was helping him/her fend off England in the late 1500s/early 1600s, and maybe Romano had a crush.

[[WMG: Nevada looks like Molossia]]
The vast majority of the micronation-tans look like the nation they declared independence from. Sealand has England's hair and eyebrows, Wy and Hutt River have Australia's band-aid, eyebrows, and to an extent hair color, Seborga looks just like a third Italy brother, Kugelmugel has Austria's ahoge and eyes, Republic of NikoNiko looks more or less like a little version of Japan. Apart from Molossia, the only major exception to this trend is Ladonia, but he's largely internet-based anyway, which pretty much excuses him. Molossia looks absolutely nothing like America, so if this trend holds true, the tan for the state of Nevada will likely resemble Molossia.

[[WMG: Some ancestors of characters]]
* Gaul: Most likely female, probably the mother of France, as well as possibly Switzerland, Netherlands, and Belgium. She probably had France by Rome and Switzerland, Netherlands, and Belgium by Germania.
* Scandinavia: Ancient Scandinavia up until the fall of the Vikings, that is. Likely the reason why Iceland is Norway's brother rather than son. Most likely male, they're probably parent to the Nordic 5. Almost definitely sibling to Germania.
* Sápmi: Probably female, it seems likely she'd be Finland's mother, but since she still exists as a cultural region, she would, unlike other ancestors, still be alive. Jury's still out on what she thinks of her son's relationship with Sweden.
* Persia: Enemy to Ancient Greece and parent to the as-of-yet unmentioned Iran character. My guess would be male, though it could go either way.
* Anatolia: Turkey's ancestor. It seems unlikely they'd have a relationship with Ancient Greece as bad as Turkey's with modern Greece.
* Carthage: Rome has already mentioned them. Given that he said he gave Carthage a thorough beating as opposed to slept with them, Carthage likely was a man and an enemy to Rome.
* Kievan Rus': Ancestor (probably mother) to Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus. Probably a doting mother, and possibly a similar personality to Ukraine, with aspects of Russia. Also known as [[JustForPun Mother Russia.]]
* Hibernia: Ireland's ancestor, presumably father as Britannia has been stated to be mother to England and his old brothers. Britannia was definitely Ireland's mother, then. Probably Britannia's brother.
* Caledonia/Pict (No, not the aliens): Scotland's father and possibly Britannia's brother.
* Various Native American tribes: Unlike most others, I think that it seems unlikely there was a single Native America tan. More likely, there were tans for each tribe and two major tribes from the areas of the earliest permanent European colonies in modern America and Canada were the parents of America and Canada.
* Aztec: Ancestor to Mexico. Likely killed by Spain.
* Maya: Aztec's spouse, most likely, and another ancestor to Mexico. Likely either killed by Aztec or Spain.
* Byzantine Empire: Ancient Greece was referred to as the Byzantine Empire once, but that's not exactly historical canon, so it seems unlikely that they're the same person. While I would say that they might be Greece's father, that's not exactly history canon either, as they're separated from Ancient Greece by quite a while. But they might be a relative at least, and probably a brother or sister to Rome.
* Iberia/Hispania: Parent to Spain and Portugal, as well as the as-of-yet unmentioned Andorra character. I would guess they'd be male.
* Dacia: Ancestor of Bulgaria, Romania, and the other countries in that general part of Europe.

[[WMG: Himaruya might not make nation-tans for the rest of the UK and Ireland ]]
* Or at last not Scotland. If Himaruya bothers to check up on the fanbase, then he might know about the internal debate on the multiple fan representations of Scotland and how they are perceived. A good example is the Pixiv design of Scotland, which is either liked or hated for various reasons. For some it's a simple as just not liking the design. Others seem to think Scotland should be a middle aged man with large muscles and a beard who screams a lot due to this being one of the scottish stereotypes. Personally, I don't see the argument. The cast of Hetalia is made up of bishounen boys, so an extremely hairy Scotland would go against the consensus of the series. Most of the rest of the arguments mostly lie in his uniform design, and how uncreative some find it.
* As a result of all the different interpetations several designs for Scotland already exist in the fandom. Some guard their ideas more viciously than others. As a result I think Himaruya might avoid making Scotland and the rest of the UK, just to avoid starting some kind of flame war among his fans.
** Smart man.

[[WMG: Narrator Lady is Esperanto-tan.]]
Esperanto isn't a nation, it's a constructed language. Narrator Lady appears to consist of a disembodied voice. Makes sense to me.
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!Hidekaz Himaruya
WMG regarding [[HidekazHimaruya the author]] of Manga/AxisPowersHetalia goes here.

[[WMG: Himaruya is ''[[FauxAffablyEvil VERY]]'' proud of himself.]]
Not only did he create an internet phenomenon, [[EstrogenBrigade he created hoards of]] [[GeekyTurnOn raging female fans]], practically teasing tons of people wanting to [[SailorEarth join in on the fun]], spawned ''countless'' [[MemeticMutation internet memes]] that will eventually rot our minds, [[BannedInChina and sparked a huge controversy]]. If you were a regular college New Yorker that simply made a webcomic and caused all this....[[ForTheEvulz wouldn't you be just absolutely euphoric?]]
* In other words, this is one of the biggest instances of trolling ever. Well played.

[[WMG: Hidekaz Himaruya is [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis in on the whole thing]].]]
If [[http://hetalia-kink.livejournal.com/11813.html?thread=34041125 this fic]] is any indication, he's one of the "scribes" observing the Nations since World War II. And he's using the knowledge learned as Japan's scribe to make the franchise. The catch is that they're ''supposed'' to be top secret. So he tweaks and waters down some details, passes his work as fiction and cover his tracks on the Internet. Even if he were to talk to another scribe about, say, Francis streaking during the ''Tour de France,'' none would be the wiser.
* On that note, so is [[ScandinaviaAndTheWorld humon.]] Only she's the "scribe" for the Nordics.
* Also, does anyone find it why there's next to ''nothing'' online on Himaruya himself (or at least pics of him)?
* On a second note, he's a capitol, and Japan tells him about meetings, stories, and such.

[[WMG: Himaruya is an [[http://community.livejournal.com/kitayumeverse/4346.html alpaca]]]]
* So... it's canon?

[[WMG: Himaruya is gay.]]
Hence the preference for {{Ho Yay}} in almost all of his works
* Perhaps his characters are based on the gay community he encountered in NY
* One rumor goes he had a Fujoshi upperclassman who would make him draw what she wanted, and after that he couldn't shake off the Fujoshi mindset.

[[WMG: Himaruya was conflicted on whether to make Canada or Mexico but chose Canada.]]
* He spent time in Canada, and got to know a lot of Canadians. Chances are, he doesn't know enough about Mexico yet to draw a Tan for it.

[[WMG: Himaruya will release one or two nations every year, most likely a principality and will reveal a big nation only when he needs to promote something.]]

[[WMG: Himaruya IS Estonia]]
Not an author avatar, but actually him. Eesti is watching the other nations and putting their antics in a webcomic ForTheLulz.
* [[http://community.livejournal.com/kitayumeverse/4346.html But Himaruya is an Alpaca..!]] Does that make Estonia an Alpaca as well?
** [[HiveMind We]] [[AssimilationPlot are]] [[MentalFusion all]] [[NightmareFuel Alpacas]].

[[WMG: Spain is Himaruya's favorite character]]
There's been so much of Spain in sketches on his blog and in the manga. Heck he was even the spokesperson for promoting book 3. Let's face it Himaruya is hot for Spain.
* There's been more Spain than usual as of late, but I don't think it comes close to how much he likes to deal with America and Japan.
* {{Jossed}}? He said his favorite character was Estonia for what I recall...
** If I remember correctly, he was making a joke about how the Estonia design looked just like him. I think the comment was more along the lines of how handsome he was than that Estonia was his favorite.
** [[http://hetalia.livejournal.com/11163171.html Volume 4.]] Estonia. [[spoiler: Nyotalia harem]]. That is all.

[[WMG: Himaruya works at a travel agency as his day job.]]

[[WMG: Himaruya intended to troll us with Hetalia from the very beginning.]]

[[WMG: "Hidekaz Himaruya" doesn't really exist.]]
Let me explain. Japan one day gets really bored and starts doing some doodles of his friends. On a whim, he decides to make little comics of them. When he shows the others, they all like them, and someone (probably America) dares him to make a webcomic out of it. Japan comes up with the pen name "Hidekaz Himruya", and even designs "Himaruya", making him look a bit like Estonia for a laugh.
Italy is the titular character because Japan is trying to hide the fact that he's the author - it'd be pretty obvious were Japan the main character - and the "hetare Italia" bit was a joke suggested by Germany that [[TheDitz Italy hasn't managed to get yet.]] He's careful to make fun of himself a bit, getting tips from the others on how they see his quirkiness. Of course, he can't resist giving himself oodles of ShipTease. [[BannedInChina South Korea gets a bit upset over it]], but other then that, the others ''love'' the little comics.
I mean, ''come on''. Who would know history better then someone who had seen it first-hand? I mean, Japan can directly access primary sources for all sorts of historical events, and recent history is no problem for him. He's also seen firsthand what world conferences and G8 meetings are like. He came up with the cover story of "Himaruya" having gone to America and met lots of people from other nationalities to explain "Himaruya"'s knowledge of stuff to do with other countries.

[[WMG: He won't make the Holocaust a KAWAII DESU YAOI FEST because he's not an asshole]]
Actually, this is pretty much confirmed in a way. He won't touch the Holocaust because there are just some things you can't DESU DESU up ever. I think he even said he wouldn't even go near the issue without serious consideration and with a very dark tone, and was rather disgusted by some of the holocaust yaoi popping up with Germany and Poland.
* Not that Hetalia is, per se, a KAWAII DESU YAOI FEST...

[[WMG: Himaruya is going to start doing more serious strips...]]
... about the nature of an implications of being a nation-tan.\\
Volume 4 included the strip [[http://www.hetarchive.net/scanlations/volume4.php?t06 ''A Bientot (Until we meet again)'']] We've had stuff on France's relationship with Jeanne d'Arc before, but... this felt different. I missed this strip at first, and when I saw it mentioned by others I assumed it was fanfiction. It really goes into the sad parts of being a country.\\
And then there was the micronations event. This might just be me, but the stuff on Nikko Nikko seemed to confirm the theory that nation-tans turn human when their country disappears. And he even included notes at the end about what generally happens when a country disappears and how some survive!\\
These two together make me wonder if Himaruya is starting to think more seriously about his series. I think he's still mainly do the jokes, but he seems to be touching on the more serious stuff more often lately. I think there might be a few guesses about the nature of the nations confirmed or jossed before too long.
* Confirmed? He actually completed the one where the soldier ask Frances about nations and the cons of being almost immortal.

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[[WMG: Narrator Lady is Esperanto-tan.]]
Esperanto isn't a nation, it's a constructed language. Narrator Lady appears to consist of a disembodied voice. Makes sense to me.
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[[WMG:Prussia is now a [[GirlGenius Jagermonster]].]]
He's a powerful soldier with a strong accent, he already looks a little unusual by human standards even if he hasn't got the six-inch fangs, and Episode 12 shows him with the appropriate NiceHat. He doesn't wear the Nice Hat in public in order not to attract suspicion. This is why he hasn't aged since the fall of Prussia; he would have become a regular human if he hadn't drunk the Jagerbrau, and now he's a Jager, he'll live for hundreds more years.
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*** We're talking about the characters in the scene, not the context about the real world that it's representing.
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***But Germany taking orders from his boss and being oblivious to it is canon. Besides, tons of germans died too and Germany isn't missing, like, an arm or something else that's Nation-tan code for slaughtering a bunch of your own. I'd say he's acting as his nation as a whole, and when the majority is following Hitler he follows Hitler, though he definatley isn't eager to some stuff. That last part is canon too by the way, he's even called them "weird" a few times.
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[[WMG: A nation-tan can not exist unless a 'national bond' of sorts is strong enough among it's people.]]
Allow me to explain. In order for a nation-state to genuinely exist internally, it's people must recognize a common bond between themselves. It can be something as simple as language, traditions, or something like agriculture. Or it can be something like religion, political beliefs, or a common enemy. In order for a nation-tan to come about, this bond has to be strong enough among the people to create an anthromorphical form, and thus a nation might be born. However, in order for the nation-tan to survive, others must recognize it as a potential form of state, or it will disappear the moment the bond between it's citizens become non-existent, or simply changes.
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