History WMG / AtlasShrugged

9th Jul '16 8:43:01 PM Phys101
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* John Galt was a pseudonym for the guy [[WhosOnFirst who was on first]].

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* John Galt was a pseudonym for the guy [[WhosOnFirst who was on first]].
5th Apr '16 1:40:11 PM Willbyr
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* Related to the above WMG, [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Energy]]

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* Related to the above WMG, [[TengenToppaGurrenLagann [[Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann Spiral Energy]]
1st Jul '15 3:21:57 PM PeverellForever
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[[WMG: ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' takes place in the same universe as ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'' and Oceania is really just another People's State]]
True, in ''Literature/NineteenEightyFour'', we're told that the whole world has been taken over by Ingsoc and related philosophies. But who told us that? The Party and Goldstein's Book, which was written by the Party. The Party, however, is a completely unreliable source of information that [[BlatantLies routinely lies about everything]], including the world outside of Oceania. It's entirely possible that Oceania, which they claim spans a third of the world, is really just confined to Great Britain.

This is backed up in ''Literature/AtlasShrugged'' in Fred Kinnan's speech about the People's States of Europe.

->"Do you hear them raising their voices about the chain gangs, the slave camps, the fourteen-hour workday and the mortality from scurvy in the People's States of Europe? No, but you do hear them telling the whip-beaten wretches that starvation is prosperity, that slavery is freedom, that torture chambers are brother-love and that if the wretches don't understand it, then it's their own fault the suffer."

Sounds an awful lot like the Party.
13th Mar '15 9:39:51 PM RushLimborg
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* Fred Kinnan, at the very least, certainly gives the impression of being "better" than the role he's playing in the Government. On a regular basis, he gets a BIG kick out of calling the other villains out on their hypocrisy, contradictions, and self-righteousness. Perhaps he's a MagnificentBastard secretly in the employ of Galt, subtly nudging the "looters" to hasten society's destruction?




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* What's especially interesting about this theory is how much Creator/AlanMoore seemed to be mining ''Atlas Shrugged'' for material, regarding the character of V...all the way down to V ''taking control of the airwaves'' to proclaim his manifesto to the people of Britain and call for revolution against the tyrannical government. (Not bad for a man who tries to give the impression of hating everything Rand stood for....)
4th Jan '15 5:31:04 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: John Galt is an agent of [[MichaelMoorcock Chaos]]]]

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[[WMG: John Galt is an agent of [[MichaelMoorcock [[Creator/MichaelMoorcock Chaos]]]]
29th Jun '14 3:51:45 PM Aiguille
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* It is tantalizing to see it this way, because that would mean that AtlasShrugged (and Rand's entire philosophy) is one giant StealthParody. Rand would essentially be mocking self-worshiping jerks by stroking their massive egos, stringing them along to look like fools in their blind devotion to her ideas. Given that she was a member of the controversial writer's guild and eventually signed up for welfare, one could stretch that she was deliberately setting herself up as a strawman, [[HeroicSacrifice risking her reputation to depict the concept of rational self-interest as hypocritical and repugnant.]] It would be a historical BatmanGambit that gives Niccolò Machiavelli's satire theory a run for its money.

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* It is tantalizing to see it this way, because that would mean that AtlasShrugged Literature/AtlasShrugged (and Rand's entire philosophy) is one giant StealthParody. Rand would essentially be mocking self-worshiping jerks by stroking their massive egos, stringing them along to look like fools in their blind devotion to her ideas. Given that she was a member of the controversial writer's guild and eventually signed up for welfare, one could stretch that she was deliberately setting herself up as a strawman, [[HeroicSacrifice risking her reputation to depict the concept of rational self-interest as hypocritical and repugnant.]] It would be a historical BatmanGambit that gives Niccolò Machiavelli's satire theory a run for its money.
27th Jun '14 2:50:44 PM Kaleidostorm
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*It is tantalizing to see it this way, because that would mean that AtlasShrugged (and Rand's entire philosophy) is one giant StealthParody. Rand would essentially be mocking self-worshiping jerks by stroking their massive egos, stringing them along to look like fools in their blind devotion to her ideas. Given that she was a member of the controversial writer's guild and eventually signed up for welfare, one could stretch that she was deliberately setting herself up as a strawman, [[HeroicSacrifice risking her reputation to depict the concept of rational self-interest as hypocritical and repugnant.]] It would be a historical BatmanGambit that gives Niccolò Machiavelli's satire theory a run for its money.
3rd Feb '14 10:23:37 PM DKNJ
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[[WMG: The Government is actually Gulchers]]

Directive 10-289 makes NO sense. Criminalizing hiring during a recession is insane, no matter your ideology. The Government is in on the conspiracy and is trying to hasten the demise of the state.
9th Oct '13 4:43:40 PM MaddKossack115
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TheFaceless man [[MemeticMutation that everybody wants to know]], who appears covered in a ConspicousTrenchcoat? Meets with {{CorruptCorporateExecutive}}s, and [[DealWithTheDevil talks them into joining his agenda]] by appealing to their [[MoneyDearBoy greed]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe self-righteousness]]? Results in the CrapsackWorld quickly going FromBadToWorse? [[DevilInPlainSight The one thing that doesn't make him a dead-giveaway]] [[LouisCypher is his good sense NOT to have a name that sounds like Devil/Satan/Lucifer]]. (This is mostly borrowing from his brief portrayals in TheMovie Film/AtlasShrugged, for the record.)

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TheFaceless man [[MemeticMutation that everybody wants to know]], who appears covered in a ConspicousTrenchcoat? ConspicuousTrenchcoat? Meets with {{CorruptCorporateExecutive}}s, and [[DealWithTheDevil talks them into joining his agenda]] by appealing to their [[MoneyDearBoy greed]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe self-righteousness]]? Results in the CrapsackWorld quickly going FromBadToWorse? [[DevilInPlainSight The one thing that doesn't make him a dead-giveaway]] [[LouisCypher is his good sense NOT to have a name that sounds like Devil/Satan/Lucifer]]. (This is mostly borrowing from his brief portrayals in TheMovie Film/AtlasShrugged, for the record.)
9th Oct '13 3:41:27 PM MaddKossack115
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Always ObscuredInShadow while wearing a ConspicousTrenchcoat? Meets with {{CorruptCorporateExecutive}}s, and [[DealWithTheDevil talks them into joining his agenda]] by appealing to their [[MoneyDearBoy greed]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe self-righteousness]]? Results in the CrapsackWorld quickly going FromBadToWorse? [[DevilInPlainSight The one thing that doesn't make him a dead-giveaway]] [[LouisCypher is his good sense NOT to have a name that sounds like Devil/Satan/Lucifer]]. (This is mostly borrowing from his brief portrayals in TheMovie Film/AtlasShrugged, for the record.)

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Always ObscuredInShadow while wearing TheFaceless man [[MemeticMutation that everybody wants to know]], who appears covered in a ConspicousTrenchcoat? Meets with {{CorruptCorporateExecutive}}s, and [[DealWithTheDevil talks them into joining his agenda]] by appealing to their [[MoneyDearBoy greed]] and [[ItsAllAboutMe self-righteousness]]? Results in the CrapsackWorld quickly going FromBadToWorse? [[DevilInPlainSight The one thing that doesn't make him a dead-giveaway]] [[LouisCypher is his good sense NOT to have a name that sounds like Devil/Satan/Lucifer]]. (This is mostly borrowing from his brief portrayals in TheMovie Film/AtlasShrugged, for the record.)
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