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16th Sep '17 4:19:05 PM nombretomado
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We know that Napoleon had a Piece of Eden in his possession at some point, so it's likely that he was a Templar. Even if he wasn't, he's just too juicy a character to ''not'' be involved in the ''Assassin's Creed'' saga in some way. And as dictator of France, he was known for having an extensive network of spies around Europe, which would be a good environment for an assassin to work his magic. And since the events of ACIII seem to be focused around America during the Revolution, it would make sense to have a follow-up set during UsefulNotes/TheNapoleonicWars (possibly even the WarOf1812), where Connor could see the events of the Templar-Assassin struggle on an international scale and get a look at its effect on the dynasties of Western Europe.

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We know that Napoleon had a Piece of Eden in his possession at some point, so it's likely that he was a Templar. Even if he wasn't, he's just too juicy a character to ''not'' be involved in the ''Assassin's Creed'' saga in some way. And as dictator of France, he was known for having an extensive network of spies around Europe, which would be a good environment for an assassin to work his magic. And since the events of ACIII seem to be focused around America during the Revolution, it would make sense to have a follow-up set during UsefulNotes/TheNapoleonicWars (possibly even the WarOf1812), UsefulNotes/WarOf1812), where Connor could see the events of the Templar-Assassin struggle on an international scale and get a look at its effect on the dynasties of Western Europe.
31st Aug '17 3:10:12 PM HalcyonDayz
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** Partially true. It's been concerned that at least part of AC3 will take place in New York (along with Boston, Philadelphia, etc.)

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** Partially true. It's been concerned that at least part of AC3 VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII will take place in New York (along with Boston, Philadelphia, etc.)



[[WMG:AC3 will centre around the first descendant of Altaïr ''and'' Ezio.]]
According to the writer of ''Revelations'', Altaïr and Ezio are on different sides of Desmond's family tree... which means that at some point, the descendants of Altaïr and Ezio intermarried.[[note]]or Ezio marries a descendant of Altaïr, either works[[/note]] Since ''when'' that happened hasn't been revealed, AC3 can take place any time from 1530 or so to the modern day (Desmond might be that first descendant).

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[[WMG:AC3 [[WMG:[=AC3=] will centre around the first descendant of Altaïr ''and'' Ezio.]]
According to the writer of ''Revelations'', Altaïr and Ezio are on different sides of Desmond's family tree... which means that at some point, the descendants of Altaïr and Ezio intermarried.[[note]]or Ezio marries a descendant of Altaïr, either works[[/note]] Since ''when'' that happened hasn't been revealed, AC3 VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII can take place any time from 1530 or so to the modern day (Desmond might be that first descendant).



It always bugged me that the release date of AC3 is 30th October when it was around the 15th November for all previous games. They probably changed the date to let the game appear more current for one of the events.

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It always bugged me that the release date of AC3 VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII is 30th October when it was around the 15th November for all previous games. They probably changed the date to let the game appear more current for one of the events.



It's not really hard to come to that conclusion based on what we know at the end of AC3:

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It's not really hard to come to that conclusion based on what we know at the end of AC3:VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII:



* [[spoiler:William is captured near the end of AC3. It's possible that the hackers during the epilogue are working for Abstergo and are using what little data they may have gotten from him before he was saved.]]

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* [[spoiler:William is captured near the end of AC3.VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII. It's possible that the hackers during the epilogue are working for Abstergo and are using what little data they may have gotten from him before he was saved.]]



** Somewhat jossed. We learn from the first episode of the DLC that Connor still remembers everything that happened in AC3, so he still holds some of the baggage toward the Templars, though it's still possible he may work with them to overthrow King Washington. Also, according to Zio, [[spoiler: Haytham is already dead]], though its possible she was wrong about that.

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** Somewhat jossed. We learn from the first episode of the DLC that Connor still remembers everything that happened in AC3, [=AC3=], so he still holds some of the baggage toward the Templars, though it's still possible he may work with them to overthrow King Washington. Also, according to Zio, [[spoiler: Haytham is already dead]], though its possible she was wrong about that.
31st Aug '17 2:59:13 PM HalcyonDayz
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If you were [[strike:enough of a dork]] interested enough like this troper to actually ''read'' the codex pages that you collect in [=AC2=], you find a CliffHanger, where Altaïr is aware he is going to die soon, so he might/might-not-have used the Apple to save himself from death. He then might have been granted immortality or eternal youth only at [[DealWithTheDevil the cost of being the Apple's slave]] for the rest of forever. Ezio might have become aware of his age himself, and used the Staff to keep him young forever, with the same rules to the contract that the Apple might have offered Altaïr. So when or if you play as Desmond, you will have to hunt down all the Pieces of Eden, and have to defeat the Keepers of Eden, people who fell under the control of the Pieces of Eden, possibly including Altaïr and Ezio.

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If you were [[strike:enough of a dork]] interested enough like this troper to actually ''read'' the codex pages that you collect in [=AC2=], VideoGame/AssassinsCreedII, you find a CliffHanger, where Altaïr is aware he is going to die soon, so he might/might-not-have used the Apple to save himself from death. He then might have been granted immortality or eternal youth only at [[DealWithTheDevil the cost of being the Apple's slave]] for the rest of forever. Ezio might have become aware of his age himself, and used the Staff to keep him young forever, with the same rules to the contract that the Apple might have offered Altaïr. So when or if you play as Desmond, you will have to hunt down all the Pieces of Eden, and have to defeat the Keepers of Eden, people who fell under the control of the Pieces of Eden, possibly including Altaïr and Ezio.



As the Bleeding Effect kicks in, Desmond will start re-living the memories of his ancestors without the need to use an Animus, as he already briefly had with Altaïr in [=AC2=]. A significant part of the plot will revolve around trying to find a way to control the Bleeding Effect so that the visions don't just happen randomly. By the end, Desmond will have complete access to all his ancestors' memories ([[StoryAndGameplaySegregation on paper anyway]]).

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As the Bleeding Effect kicks in, Desmond will start re-living the memories of his ancestors without the need to use an Animus, as he already briefly had with Altaïr in [=AC2=].VideoGame/AssassinsCreedII. A significant part of the plot will revolve around trying to find a way to control the Bleeding Effect so that the visions don't just happen randomly. By the end, Desmond will have complete access to all his ancestors' memories ([[StoryAndGameplaySegregation on paper anyway]]).



*** Like [=AC2=], you could easily be fighting as another character like Ezio, perhaps a noble who was supposedly "lost to/erased from history." It would make it easier to get caught up with the crazy events that went on from the Revolution through Waterloo. And Napoleon wouldn't necessarily have to be an antagonist the entire time. Perhaps, in the chaos of the Revolution, the Assassins actually voluntarily GIVE Napoleon the POE, as he seems like the most reasonable person to wield it to bring France out if its Templar-orchestrated chaos (which one can historically argue that he was). Perhaps, they gave it to him just before 13 Vendémiaire (5 October 1795), which was the battle in which he distinguished himself and officially became a Badass. Maybe the POE causes Napoleon to lose it and become a megalomaniac. This forces the Assassins to turn against him, which they do by stealing the POE back during Waterloo, causing him to loose the battle and go into his final exile. However, the Assassin's don't kill him, as he may be useful in the future, though he dies before they can use him again.

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*** Like [=AC2=], VideoGame/AssassinsCreedII, you could easily be fighting as another character like Ezio, perhaps a noble who was supposedly "lost to/erased from history." It would make it easier to get caught up with the crazy events that went on from the Revolution through Waterloo. And Napoleon wouldn't necessarily have to be an antagonist the entire time. Perhaps, in the chaos of the Revolution, the Assassins actually voluntarily GIVE Napoleon the POE, as he seems like the most reasonable person to wield it to bring France out if its Templar-orchestrated chaos (which one can historically argue that he was). Perhaps, they gave it to him just before 13 Vendémiaire (5 October 1795), which was the battle in which he distinguished himself and officially became a Badass. Maybe the POE causes Napoleon to lose it and become a megalomaniac. This forces the Assassins to turn against him, which they do by stealing the POE back during Waterloo, causing him to loose the battle and go into his final exile. However, the Assassin's don't kill him, as he may be useful in the future, though he dies before they can use him again.



But with the twist that, as part of some sidequest, Connor will visit the remains of characters we interacted with during the AC2 era, which have ended up in New England. Some possible candidates:

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But with the twist that, as part of some sidequest, Connor will visit the remains of characters we interacted with during the AC2 VideoGame/AssassinsCreedII era, which have ended up in New England. Some possible candidates:
17th Jun '17 2:00:11 PM nombretomado
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In light of the newly released images of the game, establishing an American Revolution setting and a Native Assassin, Tthis troper decided to do a bit of reading up on the American Revolution on the OtherWiki and searched up the roles the Natives played in the Revolution. To her surprise, most of the Native Americans sided with the Crown, and one of the powerful supporters was Joseph Brant of the Mohawk nation. Said nation was a part of the Iroquois Confederacy based in New York. A possibility that our Assassin will see the events of the Revolution unfold from here, who knows? It would make sense considering the key to saving the universe is in New York and Desmond is under a tight deadline at the moment.

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In light of the newly released images of the game, establishing an American Revolution setting and a Native Assassin, Tthis troper decided to do a bit of reading up on the American Revolution on the OtherWiki Wiki/TheOtherWiki and searched up the roles the Natives played in the Revolution. To her surprise, most of the Native Americans sided with the Crown, and one of the powerful supporters was Joseph Brant of the Mohawk nation. Said nation was a part of the Iroquois Confederacy based in New York. A possibility that our Assassin will see the events of the Revolution unfold from here, who knows? It would make sense considering the key to saving the universe is in New York and Desmond is under a tight deadline at the moment.
11th Mar '17 11:10:45 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: There will be at least one ShoutOut, EasterEgg or reference to MetalGearSolid4.]]

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[[WMG: There will be at least one ShoutOut, EasterEgg or reference to MetalGearSolid4.''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots''.]]
8th Jan '17 6:51:13 PM nombretomado
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It makes sense. A resource-rich territory is a perfect battleground between Assassins and Templars. If UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington doesn't turn out to be a Templar, he's a perfect Assassin Grand Master, as historians already believe him to be one of the great military spymasters of the era. Hell, the Founding Fathers might even not be aware that some of their fellow leaders are Assassins or Templars, which could lead to a fundamental split in ideology between them (one that can be seen later in the Federalist ([[UsefulNotes/JohnAdams Adams]], [[UsefulNotes/AlexanderHamilton Hamilton]]) and Democratic Republican ([[UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson Jefferson]], [[UsefulNotes/JamesMadison Madison]]) divide after the Revolution. They could use colonial cities like Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Charleston as settings. Granted, this is likely more possible if the majority of the Patriots were Assassin-aligned, and I have a sneaking suspicion UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson would have been the preeminent Assassin anyway, while Creator/BenjaminFranklin served as more of a [[LeonardoDaVinci da Vinci]] role.

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It makes sense. A resource-rich territory is a perfect battleground between Assassins and Templars. If UsefulNotes/GeorgeWashington doesn't turn out to be a Templar, he's a perfect Assassin Grand Master, as historians already believe him to be one of the great military spymasters of the era. Hell, the Founding Fathers might even not be aware that some of their fellow leaders are Assassins or Templars, which could lead to a fundamental split in ideology between them (one that can be seen later in the Federalist ([[UsefulNotes/JohnAdams Adams]], [[UsefulNotes/AlexanderHamilton Hamilton]]) and Democratic Republican ([[UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson Jefferson]], [[UsefulNotes/JamesMadison Madison]]) divide after the Revolution. They could use colonial cities like Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, and Charleston as settings. Granted, this is likely more possible if the majority of the Patriots were Assassin-aligned, and I have a sneaking suspicion UsefulNotes/ThomasJefferson would have been the preeminent Assassin anyway, while Creator/BenjaminFranklin served as more of a [[LeonardoDaVinci [[Creator/LeonardoDaVinci da Vinci]] role.
2nd Jan '17 1:10:24 AM SeptimusHeap
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23rd Nov '16 9:54:43 PM nombretomado
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Based on information revealed in Abstergo emails in ''AssassinsCreedIVBlackFlag'', Connor married a blonde with a "colorful character," which certainly matches Emily's profile. Plus, as she's against the Templars, it's easy to imagine the pair having run across each other at some point in their lives, with Emily possibly even joining the Assassins.

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Based on information revealed in Abstergo emails in ''AssassinsCreedIVBlackFlag'', ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIVBlackFlag'', Connor married a blonde with a "colorful character," which certainly matches Emily's profile. Plus, as she's against the Templars, it's easy to imagine the pair having run across each other at some point in their lives, with Emily possibly even joining the Assassins.
14th Oct '16 4:23:58 PM nombretomado
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E-mails Desmond can find at the end of the first game make mention of them (along with other [[SarcasmMode unimportant]] plot aspects like Subject 16 and the Bleeding Effect), specifically that the Templars hold them in the modern day and use them as untraceable communicators, and that Vidic himself is in possession of one. Meanwhile, one of the few English phrases on Subject 16's mural reads "Within [[Myth/AztecMythology Quetzalcoatl]]'s hunger and [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing Emperor Jiajing]]'s sin lies the answers". In [[{{Facebook}} Project Legacy]], we see Giovanni Borgia steal a Skull from an Aztec city, and he is later contacted through it by a Chinese man, who is most probably Jiajing. Given that the skulls from Mexico and China are probably what 16 was referring to, maybe the "answers" he says they contain are the solutions to the solar flare Jupiter mentions he, Juno and Minerva were working on at the time , that Desmond and co. will have to find, by digging through Shao Jun's memories to find the Jiajing skull, and preparing an assault on a Templar facility [[BigApplesauce convieniently]] located in New York to get Vidic's crystal skull, giving Desmond a chance to finally get some revenge on Dr. Vidic.

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E-mails Desmond can find at the end of the first game make mention of them (along with other [[SarcasmMode unimportant]] plot aspects like Subject 16 and the Bleeding Effect), specifically that the Templars hold them in the modern day and use them as untraceable communicators, and that Vidic himself is in possession of one. Meanwhile, one of the few English phrases on Subject 16's mural reads "Within [[Myth/AztecMythology Quetzalcoatl]]'s hunger and [[UsefulNotes/DynastiesFromShangToQing Emperor Jiajing]]'s sin lies the answers". In [[{{Facebook}} [[Website/{{Facebook}} Project Legacy]], we see Giovanni Borgia steal a Skull from an Aztec city, and he is later contacted through it by a Chinese man, who is most probably Jiajing. Given that the skulls from Mexico and China are probably what 16 was referring to, maybe the "answers" he says they contain are the solutions to the solar flare Jupiter mentions he, Juno and Minerva were working on at the time , that Desmond and co. will have to find, by digging through Shao Jun's memories to find the Jiajing skull, and preparing an assault on a Templar facility [[BigApplesauce convieniently]] located in New York to get Vidic's crystal skull, giving Desmond a chance to finally get some revenge on Dr. Vidic.
12th Aug '16 1:53:30 AM Anddrix
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.............as a third faction to broker a sort of peace or armistice between Templars and Assassins. It has been alleged that Freemasons were created by Templars. However, their symbol has an Assassins-esque vibe to it. Perhaps the Freemasons were Templars and Assassins tired of the war, and wanted a form of peace. Most of the people with connections to the two groups were Freemasons, explaining why many of the Founding Fathers were from that group. The Lodges? Formed to negotiate between both groups. At one point later in history the Templars slowly took control and displaced the Assassins and slowly dominated the lodges. With very few representing the Assassins within the Freemasons today. And furthermore, considering the fact that the Founding Fathers were Masons and that the game wants to paint the war in a balanced light, having the group be solely Templar or Assassin will cause a major BaseBreaker(and depending on who founds the group, the ones complaining would be either the American or British players)

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.............as a third faction to broker a sort of peace or armistice between Templars and Assassins. It has been alleged that Freemasons were created by Templars. However, their symbol has an Assassins-esque vibe to it. Perhaps the Freemasons were Templars and Assassins tired of the war, and wanted a form of peace. Most of the people with connections to the two groups were Freemasons, explaining why many of the Founding Fathers were from that group. The Lodges? Formed to negotiate between both groups. At one point later in history the Templars slowly took control and displaced the Assassins and slowly dominated the lodges. With very few representing the Assassins within the Freemasons today. And furthermore, considering the fact that the Founding Fathers were Masons and that the game wants to paint the war in a balanced light, having the group be solely Templar or Assassin will cause a major BaseBreaker(and BrokenBase (and depending on who founds the group, the ones complaining would be either the American or British players)
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