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16th Oct '16 4:48:50 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG:Alexander is [[FireEmblemElibe Nergal]].]]

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[[WMG:Alexander is [[FireEmblemElibe [[VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe Nergal]].]]
5th Oct '16 8:31:41 AM dieseldragons
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* Seeking Alexander's help pissed this nightmarish entity off, nothing much else. To this Cthulhu-like being, the notion of being banished by its own HumanPet, enraged it. Only turning on the baron makes it happy again.

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* Seeking Alexander's help pissed this nightmarish entity off, nothing much else. To this Cthulhu-like Lovecraftian-like being, the notion of being banished by its own HumanPet, enraged it. Only turning on the baron makes it happy again.
5th Oct '16 2:22:06 AM dieseldragons
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* The Shadow's claim on the young man is why Daniel resurrects whenever he ends up dead in the castle (unlike Amnesia: Justine, who only gets one chance like the rest of us).

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* The Shadow's claim on the young man is why Daniel resurrects whenever he ends up dead in the castle (unlike Amnesia: Justine, [[AllDeathsFinal who only gets one chance like the rest of us).us]]).



* In the revenge ending castle Brennenburg collapses once Daniel leaves and not before. The Shadow was waiting for him to get to a safe distance, and a strange red aura is visible around Daniel as he walks back out through the castle. The guardian was and still is following him, but can Daniel accept this fate?

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* In the revenge ending castle Brennenburg collapses once Daniel leaves and not before. The Shadow was waiting for him to get to a safe distance, and a strange red aura is visible around Daniel as he walks back out through the castle. The guardian was and still is following him, [[DidWeJustHaveTeaWithCthulhu but can Daniel accept this fate?
fate?]]
5th Oct '16 2:18:08 AM dieseldragons
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* Should Daniel idiotically fall down the well in the Nave, he response, but it intentionally traps him in a sealed room, then releases him, [[YouWillNotEvadeMe asserting ownership again]].

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* Should Daniel idiotically fall down the well in the Nave, he response, respawns, but it intentionally traps him in a sealed room, then releases him, [[YouWillNotEvadeMe asserting ownership again]].
5th Oct '16 2:16:54 AM dieseldragons
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Alexander keeps telling Daniel he's "branded" by the cosmic guardian, [[ThisIsMyHuman implying ownership]], simply because he touched the orb and by doing so, became "tainted", inadvertently invoking the relic's powers and channeling them into himself. The Shadow may now regard Daniel as much of its possession as the mysterious artifacts it usually guards, hence why its so obsessed with him that it would [[DoomMagnet kill anyone who dared make contact with him]], and even ignore the two orbs currently residing in Brennenburg, making no attempt to recover them.

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Alexander keeps telling Daniel he's "branded" by the cosmic guardian, [[ThisIsMyHuman implying ownership]], simply because he touched the orb and by doing so, became "tainted", inadvertently invoking the relic's powers and channeling them into himself. The Shadow may now regard regards Daniel as much of its possession as the mysterious artifacts it usually guards, hence why guards - its so obsessed with him that it would [[DoomMagnet kill anyone who dared make contact with him]], and even ignore the two orbs currently residing in Brennenburg, making no attempt to recover them.



* Seeking Alexander's help seemed to piss this nightmarish entity off, nothing much else.
* When Daniel gets imprisoned in the Cells, the Shadow realistically gives him plenty of time to escape. It does not appear for some ten minutes. It eventually loses patience if Daniel stands idle, and doesn't leave. If Daniel leaves the cell, its spread stops immediately, averting a bad ending. Why does the guardian want Daniel to stop Alexander? Its fleshy matter manifesting behind Daniel like an AdvancingWallOfDoom can only signify the entity is not "hunting" but ''forcing him to go forward'', its advancements remind him there is no turning back from this dark descent. Any reluctance on the young man's part to defy Alexander's expectations enrages the "relatively-patient" guardian.
Only when the Shadow absorbs the Chancel does one of Daniel's diary entries appear. Its the one marking his downfall as he realises what he has become after murdering Zimmerman's innocent daughter. By bringing it back The Shadow may be forcing Daniel to relive the crippling guilt of his former-self's actions, specifically the awful memory that old Daniel couldn't bear to live with before taking the Amnesia Drink. Also, in the 'Bad Ending', it may be haunting him with the awful memories of all those he tortured to death in Brennenburg.
Portrait alexander insane
Alexander's portrait in low sanity, possibly hinting the Shadow's true nature due to Alexander's red skin from his face matching the creature's red fleshy residue.
While Daniel's sanity is low, Alexander's portrait with his face sporting red fleshy skin, empty eyes, and a rather inhuman-looking mouth could hint the Shadow's true identity as Alexander's red skin from his portrait match the Shadow's fleshy residue and what this invisible creature really look like.
The Shadow's claim on Daniel also provides a plausible explanation for why Daniel resurrects whenever he ends up dead in the castle (unlike Amnesia: Justine, who only gets one chance). The Shadow has no intention of letting Daniel die, wishing only to "hold his feet to the fire" via terror, and make him "experience purgatory". This is showcased when it taunts Daniel should he fall down the well in the Nave when it intentionally traps him in a sealed room, then releases him. The entity wants to see whether Daniel's intentions with preventing Alexander misusing the orbs, are met with its approval. Alexander may also know this, hence his determination to quash Daniel's resolve - he can't permanently kill Daniel if the entity keeps reviving him, so he wants Daniel to give up so he can escape unscathed. This would also explain why, in the death screen, it "gives" Daniel a piece of advice to not die or say "you must carry on" as in saying Daniel must keep going to stop Alexander.
In order to use the orb long enough to perform the ritual without being killed the Baron may have turned Daniel into a sacrifice for the Shadow. Alexander hints at this several times, saying that "things can be done, but at a price" and urging Daniel to offer himself up. It might offer another explanation for the entity's strange behavior, since it is hounding Daniel, but ignoring its orbs.
If Alexander did infuriate the Shadow this would explain why it only killed him in the 'Revenge Ending', and left the 'redeemed Daniel' completely unharmed.
In the 'revenge ending' Daniel flees Brennenburg, but it cannot be certain if the shadow has departed forever, or turned back into its original "invisible-state" prior to Alexander's meddling. What is interesting is that castle Brennenburg collapses once Daniel leaves and not before. Whether this was the Shadow's doing, i.e. waiting for him to get to a safe distance, or purely coincidental is uncertain.
A strange red aura is visible around Daniel as he walks back out through the castle. The guardian may be following him again since Daniel is still "branded" or because it cannot reclaim its stolen orbs back, as they've already evaporated away.


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* Seeking Alexander's help seemed to piss pissed this nightmarish entity off, nothing much else.
else. To this Cthulhu-like being, the notion of being banished by its own HumanPet, enraged it. Only turning on the baron makes it happy again.
* When Daniel gets imprisoned in the Cells, the Shadow realistically gives him plenty ''plenty of time time'' to escape. It does not appear for some ten minutes. It eventually loses patience if Daniel stands idle, and doesn't leave. If Daniel leaves the cell, its spread stops immediately, averting a bad ending. Why does the guardian want Daniel to stop Alexander? Its fleshy matter manifesting behind Daniel like an AdvancingWallOfDoom can only signify the entity is not "hunting" but ''forcing him to go forward'', its advancements remind him there is no turning back from this dark descent. Any reluctance on the young man's part to defy Alexander's expectations enrages the "relatively-patient" guardian.
Only when the Shadow absorbs the Chancel does one of Daniel's diary entries appear. Its the one marking his downfall as he realises what he has become after murdering Zimmerman's innocent daughter. By bringing it back The Shadow may be forcing Daniel to relive the crippling guilt of his former-self's actions, specifically the awful memory that old Daniel couldn't bear to live with before taking the Amnesia Drink. Also, in the 'Bad Ending', it may be haunting him with the awful memories of all those he tortured to death in Brennenburg.
Portrait alexander insane
Alexander's portrait in low sanity, possibly hinting the Shadow's true nature due to Alexander's red skin from his face matching the creature's red fleshy residue.
While Daniel's sanity is low, Alexander's portrait with his face sporting red fleshy skin, empty eyes, and a rather inhuman-looking mouth could hint the Shadow's true identity as Alexander's red skin from his portrait match the Shadow's fleshy residue and what this invisible creature really look like.
* The Shadow's claim on Daniel also provides a plausible explanation for the young man is why Daniel resurrects whenever he ends up dead in the castle (unlike Amnesia: Justine, who only gets one chance). The Shadow has no intention chance like the rest of letting us).
* Should
Daniel die, wishing only to "hold his feet to the fire" via terror, and make him "experience purgatory". This is showcased when it taunts Daniel should he idiotically fall down the well in the Nave when Nave, he response, but it intentionally traps him in a sealed room, then releases him. The entity wants to see whether Daniel's intentions with preventing Alexander misusing the orbs, are met with its approval. Alexander may also know this, hence his determination to quash Daniel's resolve - he can't permanently kill Daniel if the entity keeps reviving him, so he wants Daniel to give up so he can escape unscathed. This would also explain why, in the death screen, it "gives" Daniel a piece of advice to not die or say "you must carry on" as in saying Daniel must keep going to stop Alexander.
In order to use the orb long enough to perform the ritual without being killed the Baron may have turned Daniel into a sacrifice for the Shadow. Alexander hints at this several times, saying that "things can be done, but at a price" and urging Daniel to offer himself up. It might offer another explanation for the entity's strange behavior, since it is hounding Daniel, but ignoring its orbs.
If Alexander did infuriate the Shadow this would explain why it only killed him in the 'Revenge Ending', and left the 'redeemed Daniel' completely unharmed.
[[YouWillNotEvadeMe asserting ownership again]].
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In the 'revenge ending' Daniel flees Brennenburg, but it cannot be certain if the shadow has departed forever, or turned back into its original "invisible-state" prior to Alexander's meddling. What is interesting is that revenge ending castle Brennenburg collapses once Daniel leaves and not before. Whether this The Shadow was the Shadow's doing, i.e. waiting for him to get to a safe distance, or purely coincidental is uncertain.
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and a strange red aura is visible around Daniel as he walks back out through the castle. The guardian may be was and still is following him again since him, but can Daniel is still "branded" or because it cannot reclaim its stolen orbs back, as they've already evaporated away.

accept this fate?
5th Oct '16 2:04:43 AM dieseldragons
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[[WMG: The Shadow isn't hunting Daniel, but it is still terrifying.]]
Alexander keeps telling Daniel he's "branded" by the cosmic guardian, [[ThisIsMyHuman implying ownership]], simply because he touched the orb and by doing so, became "tainted", inadvertently invoking the relic's powers and channeling them into himself. The Shadow may now regard Daniel as much of its possession as the mysterious artifacts it usually guards, hence why its so obsessed with him that it would [[DoomMagnet kill anyone who dared make contact with him]], and even ignore the two orbs currently residing in Brennenburg, making no attempt to recover them.
* Reading the journals reveals the Shadow was merely following him from the archaeological expedition to Africa, to London, and across Europe. Heck Daniel was once spellbound by dreams, fell overboard from the SS Hortensia headed for London. Then something very large tried to take him away, before raising him up and putting Daniel back onto ship. True the man was a WalkingWasteland, but stayed in the same area for '''25 days''' and the guardian didn't attack him.
* Seeking Alexander's help seemed to piss this nightmarish entity off, nothing much else.
* When Daniel gets imprisoned in the Cells, the Shadow realistically gives him plenty of time to escape. It does not appear for some ten minutes. It eventually loses patience if Daniel stands idle, and doesn't leave. If Daniel leaves the cell, its spread stops immediately, averting a bad ending. Why does the guardian want Daniel to stop Alexander? Its fleshy matter manifesting behind Daniel like an AdvancingWallOfDoom can only signify the entity is not "hunting" but ''forcing him to go forward'', its advancements remind him there is no turning back from this dark descent. Any reluctance on the young man's part to defy Alexander's expectations enrages the "relatively-patient" guardian.
Only when the Shadow absorbs the Chancel does one of Daniel's diary entries appear. Its the one marking his downfall as he realises what he has become after murdering Zimmerman's innocent daughter. By bringing it back The Shadow may be forcing Daniel to relive the crippling guilt of his former-self's actions, specifically the awful memory that old Daniel couldn't bear to live with before taking the Amnesia Drink. Also, in the 'Bad Ending', it may be haunting him with the awful memories of all those he tortured to death in Brennenburg.
Portrait alexander insane
Alexander's portrait in low sanity, possibly hinting the Shadow's true nature due to Alexander's red skin from his face matching the creature's red fleshy residue.
While Daniel's sanity is low, Alexander's portrait with his face sporting red fleshy skin, empty eyes, and a rather inhuman-looking mouth could hint the Shadow's true identity as Alexander's red skin from his portrait match the Shadow's fleshy residue and what this invisible creature really look like.
The Shadow's claim on Daniel also provides a plausible explanation for why Daniel resurrects whenever he ends up dead in the castle (unlike Amnesia: Justine, who only gets one chance). The Shadow has no intention of letting Daniel die, wishing only to "hold his feet to the fire" via terror, and make him "experience purgatory". This is showcased when it taunts Daniel should he fall down the well in the Nave when it intentionally traps him in a sealed room, then releases him. The entity wants to see whether Daniel's intentions with preventing Alexander misusing the orbs, are met with its approval. Alexander may also know this, hence his determination to quash Daniel's resolve - he can't permanently kill Daniel if the entity keeps reviving him, so he wants Daniel to give up so he can escape unscathed. This would also explain why, in the death screen, it "gives" Daniel a piece of advice to not die or say "you must carry on" as in saying Daniel must keep going to stop Alexander.
In order to use the orb long enough to perform the ritual without being killed the Baron may have turned Daniel into a sacrifice for the Shadow. Alexander hints at this several times, saying that "things can be done, but at a price" and urging Daniel to offer himself up. It might offer another explanation for the entity's strange behavior, since it is hounding Daniel, but ignoring its orbs.
If Alexander did infuriate the Shadow this would explain why it only killed him in the 'Revenge Ending', and left the 'redeemed Daniel' completely unharmed.
In the 'revenge ending' Daniel flees Brennenburg, but it cannot be certain if the shadow has departed forever, or turned back into its original "invisible-state" prior to Alexander's meddling. What is interesting is that castle Brennenburg collapses once Daniel leaves and not before. Whether this was the Shadow's doing, i.e. waiting for him to get to a safe distance, or purely coincidental is uncertain.
A strange red aura is visible around Daniel as he walks back out through the castle. The guardian may be following him again since Daniel is still "branded" or because it cannot reclaim its stolen orbs back, as they've already evaporated away.

2nd Sep '16 2:42:44 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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Much like with SilentHill, the "energy" of the area will start luring particular people. With all of the magic and torture that has occurred here, visitors will be taking on bizarre "trips", facing their worst nightmares incarnate.

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Much like with SilentHill, Franchise/SilentHill, the "energy" of the area will start luring particular people. With all of the magic and torture that has occurred here, visitors will be taking on bizarre "trips", facing their worst nightmares incarnate.



* The Brute is likely [[spoiler: Daniel Himself, representing what he has become, just as the prisoner said to Daniel. It could be Amnesia's version of [[SilentHill2 Pyramid Head.]], representing Daniel's wish to be punished/executed. It is also useless to run away from a Brute because they can outrun you, much like Daniel can't undo his murders.]] The "Great Knife" on the Brute's arm is also similar to another [[SilentHill2 Great Knife]].

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* The Brute is likely [[spoiler: Daniel Himself, representing what he has become, just as the prisoner said to Daniel. It could be Amnesia's version of [[SilentHill2 [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 Pyramid Head.]], representing Daniel's wish to be punished/executed. It is also useless to run away from a Brute because they can outrun you, much like Daniel can't undo his murders.]] The "Great Knife" on the Brute's arm is also similar to another [[SilentHill2 [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 Great Knife]].
9th May '16 4:18:57 PM Taxi-Pizzatime
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Like the previous WMG above. The developers mention inspiration from Franchise/SilentHill. The Brute mimics [[spoiler: Daniel]] by horrifying prisoners in the Prison (hurry to an unbreakable door to look through a window and see it.)) The Brute's weapon is also as deadly as Pyramid Heads'.

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Like the previous WMG above. The developers mention inspiration from Franchise/SilentHill. The Brute mimics [[spoiler: Daniel]] by horrifying prisoners in the Prison (hurry to an unbreakable door to look through a window and see it.)) ) The Brute's weapon is also as deadly as Pyramid Heads'.
Heads'.

The Brute shows up personally for final third of the game, but makes audio appearances in the first hub. VideoGane/SilentHill2 also has a LaserGuidedAmnesia plot that is essential to its story.
9th May '16 4:12:42 PM Taxi-Pizzatime
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Like the previous WMG above. The developers mentioned inspiration from Franchise/SilentHill. The Brute mimics [[spoiler: Daniel]] by horrifying prisoners in the Prison (hurry to a an unbreakable door to look through the window and see it.)) The Brute's weapon is also as deadly as Pyramid Heads'.

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Like the previous WMG above. The developers mentioned mention inspiration from Franchise/SilentHill. The Brute mimics [[spoiler: Daniel]] by horrifying prisoners in the Prison (hurry to a an unbreakable door to look through the a window and see it.)) The Brute's weapon is also as deadly as Pyramid Heads'.
9th May '16 4:10:57 PM Taxi-Pizzatime
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[[WMG: Based on the [[DVDCommentary Developers Commentary]], the Servant Brute is Amnesia's [[VideoGame/SilentHill2 Pyramid Head]].]]
Like the previous WMG above. The developers mentioned inspiration from Franchise/SilentHill. The Brute mimics [[spoiler: Daniel]] by horrifying prisoners in the Prison (hurry to a an unbreakable door to look through the window and see it.)) The Brute's weapon is also as deadly as Pyramid Heads'.



Daniel probably never had kids or displayed romantic interest in anyone (if he had, it would have most likely been mentioned in his journals), so he couldn't have had a direct descendant. However, DummiedOut information says he had a sister named Hazel, and it's possible ''she'' had children and had Oswald as a direct descendant. Or any other siblings Daniel had.

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Daniel probably never had kids or displayed romantic interest in anyone (if he had, it would have most likely been mentioned in his journals), so he couldn't have had a direct descendant. However, DummiedOut information says he had a sister named Hazel, and it's possible ''she'' had children and had Oswald as a direct descendant. Or any other siblings Daniel had.
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